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Friday, May 28, 2021
This is the lawsuit that got Rod Meredith's ass handed to him by a court of law for mouthing off about Leona McNair. Even after this humiliating defeat he still could not and would not control his mouth. It was soon after this that Meredith joined up with Raymond McNair and started the Global Church of God. Meredith waited till the WCG paid all of his legal fees and then jumped ship. Then, not long after that, he stabbed Raymond McNair in the back and started Living Church of God taking all the tithe money and members while virtually leaving Raymond and Eve McNair with nothing.
One thing is for sure, the Church of God has produced high-quality ethical ministers! Aren't they a shining example of God's values?
Thursday, May 27, 2021
Ridiculous, Self Serving and Inappropriate Sermons Church of God Pastors and Apostles Might Better Leave Alone
As reported in an article in Your Church magazine, 55 percent of pastors can identify one or more topics on which they would not preach at all or only sparingly, because the sermon could negatively affect their hearers' willingness to attend church in the future.
Among them are:
Politics - 38 percent
Homosexuality - 23 percent
Abortion - 18 percent
Same-sex marriage - 17 percent
War - 17 percent
Women's role in church and home - 13 percent
The doctrine of election - 13 percent
Hell - 7 percent
Money - 3 percent
Adding to these, there are topics, unique to Church of God Apostles, Prophets, Elijah's, Zerubbabel's, Presiding Types and pastors that should never be preached but unfortunately they often do.
Book of Revelation as you see it
The Seven Church Era's
Places of Safety
God will heal you
God will heal you if...
The evils of modern medicine
Marriage and sex
How to have a happy marriage
Topics that are generally understood as none of your business
Why you should counsel with the ministry and not professionals
Why the ministry knows more than professionals in your time of need
Why, if the ministry or you make a mistake, God will let you know and not them.
Why mistakes by leadership aren't really mistakes
Tithing will open the windows of heaven for you, so send it in
If you leave this church you may as well put a gun to your head
Wives must submit to their husbands in all things except if she is in the church and then half of everything is hers to give to the church no matter what unconverted papa thinks.
How you do things as if that's how they should do things to
Any stupid topic about yourself that takes 300 sermons over years that are obviously and unambiguously lies and 100% wrong.
Why you were right when you weren't
Why the math is still exactly right when it isn't
Any sermon you give with math in it.
Who you think you are as spoken of in the scriptures (But for sure not)
How you finagled your title as Apostle, Prophet or Elijah reincarnated without even trying or credentials
How smart you are and how your parents taught you the rules of logic when obviously you weren't listening and they didn't. (A favorite credential of Dave Pack)
Church history and Biblical inerrancy as if you understand it without having studied it
Dogmatic opinions on anything you know little about in fact
Anything you haven't studied outside of the booklet you wrote or the one your church offers
Why you are building this campus and bought this jet because Jesus is coming on Tuesday.
God wants us to have fine things
Why Jesus needed this campus so he'd have a place to return to
Once you send it in it is not for you to decide how I use it.
Why your ways are not God's ways or especially my ways
Why my son will take over the church in the unlikely event of my death before Jesus comes.
This or that was a miracle in your church
I had a dream and it means ___________
I had another dream even better
Anything above a Cat 2 Hurricane is for sure God trying to tell us something
Bad weather is God sent because it says so in the Old Testament
Your personal dietary beliefs.
Your personal beliefs
Checking with the ministry on big decisions
Checking with the ministry on small decisions
Checking with the ministry first
Checking with me first.
You can sure tell Jesus is about to return for sure
Church Government and Pastoral authority over the congregation
WE only understand___________
WE did not understand but now you do. (again)
You must, you should, you better____________
Why you need garage and bake sale proceeds to be sent in
Willing your estate to the Church
What is for sure going to happen and when
Why you were still right when you were dead wrong
Medical advice and supplements you don't believe in and what you do believe more in.
We won't die. Rather WE shall be changed.
What you think you know about how it all is in the world and what's "really" going on
Special revelations you feel you have received from God personally.
World news proves the Jesus is coming soon
"This Generation shall not pass" means ours
We for sure are living in the end times
Politics that you like
Conspiracies that suit your personality and insecurities
Politicians that you like
Politicians you don't like
Denominations you don't like
How wrong every other church is compared to yours
How the Jews don't even understand their own Book.
The Plain Truth rather than the Present one.
Evolution as if you know
Why science is a religion
Why science takes faith too
Satan is out to get us and we will be persecuted so it's not us or me attracting it
Send it in again
I had another dream....
And yes brethren, I am an Apostle
And yes brethren, I am a Prophet
Ok, lets send in more.
Wednesday, May 26, 2021
Where would the Church of God be without its splinter group leaders? They say some of the darndest things!
Get Out of the Rabbit Hole
Scripture tells us that Jesus Christ is the Head of His Church (Colossians 1:18; Ephesians 1:22–23). And we are informed that “the church of the living God” is “the pillar and ground of the truth” (1 Timothy 3:15). Are we that Church or not? Further, God has placed His ministry within the Church to keep us unified and on track “till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ; that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting, but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head—Christ” (Ephesians 4:13–15).
Why is it that COG groups always find themselves under attack all the time? Satan is always seeking to devour them and sadly most of them seem willing to let it happen since they don't stand with confidence in the one they claim to follow.
I am not writing these comments for those who may no longer be with us, but for loyal and faithful members of the Living Church of God. Dear brethren, some of us have lived a bit longer than others. Our Council of Elders is mostly made up of men who have been around for a while, both in this life and in the Church. We have seen many conspiracies come and go. We have seen individuals become distracted, going down a rabbit hole of seemingly consistent and credible carnal ideas that appeal to them—and, sadly, as they keep going, becoming more and more convinced that what they are reading is the truth.
Brethren, because we have men on the council who have been frozen in time over the last 60 years you need to trust us in making proper decisions in 2021! Our experience demands it! Unlike you brethren, we older leaders have never been distracted, tossed to and fro, or ever have gotten caught up in conspiracy theories. Trust us on that! We are above that!
Satan uses the Internet and social media to grease that hole—and it becomes nearly impossible to extricate someone from these powerful deceptions, once they are bought into. No matter how many wise men and women try to help them, deluded people become convinced they are right as they turn themselves into poster children for this proverb: “A man who isolates himself seeks his own desire; he rages against all wise judgment. A fool has no delight in understanding, but in expressing his own heart” (Proverbs 18:1–2). Stay on the Road
Someone had better get the butthurt cream for Bob Thiel! Ouch!
I have always loved how when church members wake up to the fact they have been abused or that they have been feed a bunch of doctrinal lies over the years, that they are now deluded. One thing COG leaders are good at is gaslighting their members! The members are always the dumb ones and the deluded ones, never the church leadership.
CGI's Bill Watson's tirades against COVID have not prevented CGI members from getting infected. The infection rate is so high in one church area that the building they meet in needs to be disinfected, canceling services. Now we know what Bill Watson had a fit over recent articles posted.
ATTENTION!! SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
Over the last couple of weeks, an increased amount of sickness has moved within the congregation. The number of people has continued to grow as others are in different stages of recovery. In light of the fact that the Church building may be in need of some good disinfection, it’s been decided to go-ahead and do that as soon as we can. Arrangements have been made to conduct this service this week. However, doing this will cause us to cancel services this coming Sabbath. We will play a prerecorded sermon for the internet webcast.
As of now, Sabbath services will resume live on June 5th, Sabbath after next, unless otherwise noted. Thank you for your patience and do keep our brethren in our prayers as they go through these difficult times.
Finally, however, someone in CGI had the intestinal fortitude to push back against Mr. Watson’s war on the science related to the pandemic. In a May 25, 2021 post entitled “Pandemic Lies,” Mr. Jeff Reed wrote: “In the past year, we have seen many new lies originate and spread regarding the coronavirus pandemic. In my life, I have never witnessed this amount of widespread deception spread so quickly. The pandemic was a unique situation in that none of us were prepared for it, and many became so easily deceived. The danger in believing these new lies is that they could lead to your immediate death or the death of someone close to you. For many thousands, they unfortunately have. Satan is a deceiver, and he loves death.”
Mr. Reed went on to cite the horrible statistics associated with the virus and pushed back on the narrative that those death tolls had been “overly inflated.” In fact, he went on to make a compelling case that the death toll from Covid-19 has actually been underreported. And, on a note of optimism about the future, Mr. Reed remarked:
“As I write this, there is hope that things will soon return to normal. God allowed one of the most outstanding scientific achievements in modern history. Humanity developed several highly effective coronavirus vaccines in the last year using new technologies. Two prominent mRNA vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna distributed in the United States have proven safe after hundreds of millions of doses.”
Even so, there was immediate push back from the Bill Watson camp within the church. One commentator even pushed the now thoroughly discredited hydroxychloroquine as a potentially effective treatment for the virus. Indeed, my own nephew (who attends Bill’s congregation) suggested that the Pfizer vaccine had caused his father-in-law’s recent stroke! This, despite the fact that his father (my brother) and his fiancée (who also attend with Bill Watson’s congregation) are currently battling Covid-19! He went on to write: “Jeff, this article is only going to serve to divide the church even more. I received no edification from it but had what I know to my core attacked by it. I disagree with what you have said whole heartedly. Do you think Satan can’t influence information put on a government website? He can, he does, and he will. As your brother, I am offended completely by what you’ve said.”
Unfortunately, if past remarks and the present commentary on Mr. Reed’s post are any indication of what’s to come, my nephew is probably right about the division within the church. It appears that members of CGI currently have two options relative to the pandemic: Support Bill Watson’s narrative or keep your mouth shut! Hope springs eternal though, someone in Tyler did have the intestinal fortitude to post Mr. Reed’s remarks on their website!
For those who are interested in viewing Mr. Reed’s post in its entirety, you may do so here: Pandemic Lies