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With all the new crazy self-appointed Chief Overseers, Apostles, Prophets, Pharisees, legalists, and outright liars leading various Churches of God today, it is important to hold these agents of deception accountable.
Herbert Armstrong's Tangled Web of Corrupt Leaders
Alton Billingsley has only two claims to fame that he is noteworthy of. The first is that he was the driver of the car that Richard Armstrong was riding in that was involved in the accident that killed Richard. Second, his documented off-the-wall prophetic failures are as astoundingly wrong as Dave Pack’s and Bwana Beto Bob's false prophecies.
After hyperventilating over inflation, drought, Putin, and other things in the news, he says this:
And now, finally, a last word to you who read this warning message—this summary of the prophecies: YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED! Your immediate future is of your own choosing. You can take this lightly, let it slip from mind, allow yourself once again to be absorbed in the mechanics of today's complex society that you put this out of mind.
If you do, you have now read YOUR FATE—and I say to you on authority of God Almighty that it is absolutely SURE! Or, you may heed the warning, realize the truth—that there already have occurred in the world sufficient happenings to verify the REALITY of God's prophecies-and REPENT NOW before it is too late.
If you DO turn to God by forsaking your way and this world's ways through Jesus Christ as personal Saviour—if you DO then overcome, study the Bible continually to let it correct and reprove and instruct YOU—living by EVERY WORD OF GOD, rather than by the ways and customs of society—if you pray earnestly and continually, drawing closer and closer to GOD, and endure in this wonderful new life, you shall be accounted worthy to ESCAPE all these terrifying things soon to befall the world. (Luke 21: 36).
You may escape the Great Tribulation. No PLAGUE will come near you. And, finally, given the precious gift of eternal life, you shall be used in God's Kingdom teaching and ruling those human beings made joyous in that PEACEFUL WORLD TOMORROW! The decision is now YOURS!
The physical reality of prophetic failure two days in a row (again) has taken a toll. They have run out of ideas behind the front gate of Headquarters at The Restored Church of God. David C. Pack posted a pointless "Pathetic Update" in Member Services yesterday.
Color me disappointed that there were no accidentally immortalized comments to the degree of, “This was extremely hard to discern until God dropped a load of proof on us.”
Within 24 hours, that statement became more humorous and worthless than before. The "load of proof" became vapor because it did not come from God. It was all hot air seeping from the ears of a false apostle. How many more times will the enablers continue to prop up a golden calf and call him Pastor General?
After a full day of shrugging by the Coffee Kid and Meat Shield, Dave had no choice but to join in. Cartoon question marks appeared over their heads and are with us to this day. How is that for a sign or a wonder?
The First Kingdom of God Arrives on "I dunno."
The empty vessel is empty all right.
October 7, 2022
I neglected yesterday to reiterate that I personally intend to continue watching right into the Feast. There are eight post-Feast days in Tishrei for God’s Plan to spill into, while keeping all 10 days “in one month.” In fact, there are two alternate tracks at the Feast when the 10 days could start. Both are powerful. With today gone, time will show which track God has chosen. We still do not know which day and hour.
In Christ’s service,
David C. Pack
The only things "powerful" Dave comes up with nowadays are his brain farts. And those are just squeakers that fade quickly into obscurity.
This must have been thrown together at the last minute as the day wore on, and it “became clear” nothing significant was going to occur in Jerusalem or here in Wadsworth. Again. The only people surprised by this were those living inside David C. Pack’s head.
Enabler-in-Chief Brad knew it.
Stepford Prime Ed knew it.
Dr. Feelbad Jaco knew it.
Chicago Heavy Ken knew it.
Hireling Ryan knew it.
Hireling Tim knew it.
Hireling Carl knew it.
Meat Shield Andrew knew it.
Coffee Kid Jim knew it.
Hireling Salasi knew it.
Hireling Frank knew it.
Hireling Mike knew it.
Hireling-in-Training Raymond knew it.
All those who have left The Restored Church of God knew it. As they also knew his ambiguous “it could happen at the Feast or after the Feast” was coming. Dave is out of ideas. He’s got nothin’.
David C. Pack is a man spewing confusion, and the enablers lap it up. They are willfully blind. How few righteous will be left in that city before God destroys it?
“…time will show which track God has chosen.”
God has chosen the track that does not have you on it, Dave. The spirit that moves you and flows out your mouth is not from God. A simple passing of time forced this conclusion.
October 1, 2022
@ 1:49:15 All you gotta do is sit there and shut up and learn.
September 24, 2022
@ 17:57 But it’s impossible to believe that he doesn’t sound on Trumpets. So, is it a coincidence we’re learning this right now?
June 8, 2019
@ 32:00 God waited three years and seven months to explain to me He’s gonna come 60 hours before He does.
September 7, 2019
@ 1:51:26 Now, things either wrap up in the very near days to come or we simply don’t understand dozens of verses about timing.
May God have mercy on those who see this and ignore it.
Jon Brisby, the current head oftheChurch of God the Eternal, has not been known to be a sound theologian for many years now. Never having any real theological education other than a bunch of Herbert Armstrong's booklets, he resorts to lots of edicts that make no sense at all. That is evident in his silliness below describing how not supporting and criticizing the work is blaspheming the Holy Spirit. Bwana Bob will certainly get his holistic knickers in a major twist reading this since there is only ONE church actively doing the "work" today and it certainly is NOT Jon Brisby.
Jon wonders why his church is shrinking like the rest of the COG's, this is why:
Who then is in the greatest danger of committing this unpardonable sin—the sin that Christ said equates to blasphemy of the Holy Spirit? It is the one who is called by God to be part of His firstfruits harvest—pictured by the true Pentecost—but who is refusing to accept the Truth revealed in our very day by this same Jesus Christ. Christ confirmed that He did indeed do a Work in our day—these last days:
Beware therefore, lest that come upon you, which is spoken of in the prophets; Behold, ye despisers, and wonder, and perish: for I work a work in your days, a work which ye shall in no wise believe, though a man declare it unto you (Acts 13:40–41).
Christ said by this that His divine Work is present someplace right now. But many of His called children are claiming otherwise. Because of the misbehavior of many Church of God ministers of the past, they have become jaded and resentful against any organized group today. They believe that they can worship God just fine on their own. But Jesus Christ said otherwise:
Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me. If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself. He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him (John 7:16–18).
Two facts are critical from this statement: First, the doctrine is everything. And secondly, recognizing the voice of God through chosen instruments who are sent is paramount. Christ promised that He would indeed preach that true doctrine through human instruments in our day:
How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things! (Romans 10:14–15)
Yet many of God's truly called children today are kicking against this very fact. They have vowed to trust no man to teach them the Truth of God. They will get it all by themselves through their personal prayer and study alone. But that very philosophy is an absolute denial of the Work of God being done today through the Spirit of Truth. They do not realize it, but it is exactly the same thing that the Pharisees were doing when denying that Christ's healing miracles came from God. It is a vilification, an evil speaking, a railing, and yes, a blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. Because if Christ is truly working through a human ministry someplace upon this earth, and if some of His called children are refusing to acknowledge that Spirit of Truth in action, then they are not just rejecting "a man," but they are rejecting the very work of God's Spirit by Jesus Christ Himself:
Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also. But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake, because they know not him that sent me. If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloak for their sin. He that hateth me hateth my Father also. If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated both me and my Father. But this cometh to pass, that the word might be fulfilled that is written in their law, They hated me without a cause. But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, [it] shall testify of me: And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning (John 15:20–27).
How then can you avoid being guilty of blaspheming the Holy Spirit and committing the unpardonable sin? No matter how much and how aggressively you may have been resisting God's divine Work thus far, it is still not too late. But you need to acknowledge that Christ truly is still working to feed His sheep miraculously through an organized remnant body. He promised that the gates of hell would never prevail against that true Church (Matthew 16:18). So it is here someplace. Wherever it is, it is a work that respects the original revelation of Truth given by God in our age through a chosen servant. If you are still claiming that Herbert Armstrong was not that servant—and you have every reason to know better—you are in danger. If you are acknowledging the legitimate origin of that true Church but are still chafing today at the requirement to "become part of" a remnant fellowship—because you refuse to be taught "by any man"—you are likewise treading on very dangerous ground. But if you are willing to fight against that enemy spirit which is seeking to keep you divided from the Body of Christ, and if you will humble yourself and hear the True Shepherd, even though it is coming through the foolishness of preaching (1 Corinthians 1:21), then you can escape the road that leads to death—eternal damnation. All it takes is an acknowledgment, and then a sincere walk in the correct direction. He will hear you, and He will lead you by His Spirit to bear real spiritual fruit. Member letter, June 2022
"(RNS) — A leader of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints appears to have plagiarized a portion of his address at a national church gathering, passing off the words of an obscure religious teacher as his own.
During the church’s recent General Conference, held Saturday and Sunday (Oct. 1-2), Elder David Bednar, a former university president and a member of the body known as the Quorum of 12 since 2004, preached to church members about a well-known New Testament parable about a king who throws a wedding for his son, only to have none of the invited guests show up."
The article goes after describing the story and then has this:
"What the former university president did not tell those listening is that the interpretation of the parable was not entirely his own. Instead, his analysis was taken, often word for word, from a 2016 article about the parable written by John O. Reid, a leader in a little-known sect referred to as the Church of the Great God.
Bednar also read several quotes from Reid and from Elder James E. Talmage, an LDS leader who died in 1933, crediting some, but giving the impression that the ideas were his own. Footnotes to Reid’s article and Talmage’s work, as well as other sources, do appear in the published version of Bednar’s talk — but material from both appears without quotation marks."
RNS then has this:
"Religion News Service first contacted church leaders about Bednar’s address on Wednesday (Oct. 5). At that time, the transcript had only one footnote mentioning Reid and no quotation marks around material taken from his work, according to screenshots of the transcript and an internet archive of the page. That single footnote and the only mention of Reid appeared after several paragraphs of material lifted from Reid with no attribution."
LCG wants our excess second tithes, but do they deserve it? Do any of the COG's really deserve it? It is not a command or even expectation under the New Covenant. This year treat your family or yourself to something special and let the elite from HQ make better decisions about what type of facilities they rent or use. Let those elite HQ representatives that get free housing and big bonuses for use at the Feast donate that money. Let's have the elite leadership set the example, for once.
Excess Second Tithe
Some have thought that excess second tithe is no longer set aside for a specific purpose and may be used back home. That is not the case. To do so is to profane what God has set aside as holy!
The Church has traditionally said that a portion of one’s excess second tithe may be used to supplement—not replace—one’s Last Great Day offering. However, one should take care to cover expenses regarding the trip home, some of which can be unexpected, such as a flat tire. After returning home, excess second tithe should then be sent in as a “Festival Tithe Donation” so that it will be put in a fund to help take care of next year’s Festival expenses. It should be noted that the Church rarely, if ever, receives enough Festival Tithe donations to cover all Feast-related costs.
Generally, excess second tithe should not be saved for the following Feast. However, there may be exceptions to this. When someone is going to retire and does not expect to have sufficient funds for the next year, saving some excess second tithe is permissible. Close family members separated by great distances are permitted to occasionally save for the following Feast so they can be with family when that would otherwise be impossible. In situations where income is erratic, it may be best to spread out a bountiful year’s second tithe over several years. But none of this should be our usual practice—we are to save up from year to year (Deuteronomy 14:22).
While it might seem selfless to minimize second tithe expenses during the Feast in order to send more to the Church at the end of it, doing so can frustrate the very purpose of second tithe! Seek to satisfy that purpose during the Feast, seeing to it that you and your family rejoice abundantly and enjoy picturing what God’s Feast represents—thereby learning to fear the Eternal, who gives such gifts to those who love Him. This purpose should be satisfied first—then any additional contribution in your final offering will truly be “excess.” How do I use my second tithe?
Setting a new low (and at the same time, hysterical) standard for “Pathetic Updates” in Member Services, Team Enablers at The Restored Church of God have all but admitted they are out of ideas. The Coffee Kid and the Meat Shield spent the day shrugging at one another. They are sorely in need of a massage.
It took three paragraphs to say, “Let’s do this again tomorrow because this morning was so awesome!”
Wait for it:
Friday, October 7 at 11:16am — The First Kingdom of God Arrives!
October 6, 2022
Brethren, for many reasons, the 10 days of Revelation 2:10 end IN the day of the Lord (meaning inside it). Recall the many events that happen “IN that day”—including completion of the saints who are “blameless IN the day of our Lord Jesus Christ” (I Cor. 1:8)—again meaning INSIDE this day, not at its start or end. While the fulfillment we await “tarries” (for two days after Atonement), we faithfully “wait for it; because it will surely come, it will not delay” (Hab. 2:3)!
In simple terms, 9 of the 10 days are before the Last Great Day, and the 10th day ends IN that day at “evening time” (meaning “dusk now” in the Hebrew). This was extremely hard to discern until God dropped a load of proof on us. The heavenly signs (6th seal) close the 10th day before God intervenes at evening to extend it, bringing “all the saints with Him” for what starts His wrath. We thought there were three days before the Feast and then the remaining seven preceded the Last Great Day. In fact there are two days before the Feast (one is a full Sabbath) and then the remaining eight complete the Last Great Day before God lengthens it.
The picture you already have is correct—except that timing was too early by one day. Now the first Kingdom arrives at the exact moment the Sabbath occurs (Jerusalem time)! Just recall Acts 1:6-7.
In Christ’s service,
David C. Pack
Ha ha ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha ha ha.
Just when I thought David C. Pack teaching the members of RCG that God blinded him was hilarious enough, this golden brown nugget lands in everyone’s lap.
“This was extremely hard to discern until God dropped a load of proof on us.”
It is actually David C. Pack who drops a load on the members of The Restored Church of God. For seven years running. He is no longer content with only pissing against the wooden walls of the Hall of Administration Third Floor Executive Imaginarium, but today he took a squat right there on the boardroom table as the Coffee Kid fetched a shovel.
This is a perfect illustration of the quality of his work and the source of his inspiration. David C. Pack does not speak for the mind of God. He is not being led by God, and this prophecy series is an abomination.
“The picture you already have is correct—except that timing was too early by one day.”
The picture is correct…except. That is an old standby. Timing is everything when it comes to proving a true prophet from a false one. The moment he set a date was the moment he reached a point of no return. He can never stop now. And he can never be right.
Jesus Christ will not return tomorrow at the beginning of Sabbath Jerusalem time. He will not return tomorrow at the beginning of Sabbath Joseph time. He will not return any time David C. Pack declares it.
In less than one hour, David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God will fail again.
The First Kingdom of God will not arrive today, October 6, at 11:18am, as he declared Saturday.
October 1, 2022
@ 01:03 I could not have dreamed that there could be so much that would come so clear and become so easy, so fast, so close to the end. But that's what happened.
While he eats his lunch this afternoon, will he ponder that he did not learn so much, and it was not so clear and not so easy as he continues going way too fast, and we are not as close to the end?
No. He will pester “lesser ministers” with imaginings about “something we missed.” The enablers will circle the wagons and surround the false apostle with pillows because his ego bruises easily.
The next part of the series is coming because David C. Pack cannot be quiet for a year. He cannot stew in his own insignificance for that long. The idea of preaching the gospel to the world, updating the literature, or recording a new The World to Come is too frightening and offensive to consider. The show must go on.
While reflecting on what will not happen today, I kept hearing a song in my head. In 1991, Ozzy Osbourne released “Road to Nowhere.”
The wreckage of my past keeps haunting me
It just won't leave me alone
I still find it all a mystery
Could it be a dream?
The road to nowhere leads to me
The sad part is that David C. Pack leads the entire ministry and membership of The Restored Church of God to nowhere. Meanwhile, he is the center of that nowhere. They will continue to move in circles he created that all lead back to him.
Those lyrics were more eerily close to home than I remembered.
The Greatest Unending Story! is a wreckage. A wreckage of biblical fraud. A wreckage of prophetic nonsense. A wreckage of well-documented failure. A wreckage of people’s faith.
The past harasses David C. Pack. His own words condemn him. His own words expose him. Reminding everyone of what he said five days ago is framed as “the devil attacking the church.” There is no end to his volume of words, and they will not leave him alone.
@ 06:18 That is astonishing blindness.
@ 58:58 It’s the start of the 12th [of Tishrei], Jerusalem time. About 11:20 this Thursday morning. That's just math. It's not me saying anything. It's just math. I can count to 10.
He believes he has been charged by God to end the “Mystery of God” of Revelation 10:7, which means he is the seventh angel. Filled with medical-grade delusion, he does not understand that he will never understand.
Bible prophecy will forever remain a mystery to him. What God wants will be a mystery to him. Why he perpetually fails is a mystery to him. The reason behind God striking him with blindness and removing all dunamis from him will be a present-progressive mystery.
But the answer is painfully clear: God is not guiding him. The Restored Church of Another god is led by a Pastor General and Professional Blasphemer who makes merchandise of the brethren. Darkness has captured the corporate sheepfold.
Today, the brethren inside RCG will have to wrestle with this. More clarity will come to prove things are still right on track. When physical reality clashes with mental reality, the human mind has an astonishing way of compensating. Keep checking Member Services for a critical "Pathetic Update."
@ 1:49:15 All you gotta do is sit there and shut up and learn.
Quit calling your local "minister" with vexing questions. He does not have the answers. This is how David C. Pack sees you; you better stay this way.
The man lives in a dream where he is identified throughout the Bible. Let the words of David C. Pack destroy David C. Pack.
The attacks in this book are undeniably sound and ferocious. He has become the very creature he once warned everyone about.
Ponder this and stand in awe. God has a brilliance that cannot be fathomed.
The road to nowhere leads to me
The Restored Church of Another god is being led on the road to nowhere with a false apostle at the center of attention. All this road does is lead back to David C. Pack.
The seven years of circling have weakened the brethren, not built them up. The seven years of circling have drained the brethren, not filled them up. The seven years of circling have consumed the brethren, not fed them. God have mercy!
Watch the clock at 11:18am today to see what happens.
I'll just leave this here.....seems like another subtle tactic to shut up any questioning. Rod Meredith was a rebel when he left 2 different church organizations to form LCG, but that doesn't count.
We in God’s Church strive to think biblically about any given topic—to keep our brains turned on and “tuned in” to what the Bible has to say. But what about entertainment?
Entertainment is usually designed to help us stop thinking. When I consider some of the entertainment I enjoy, I know that part of the reason I enjoy it is because it’s not mentally taxing. There’s a danger in this, as you might expect: When we stop thinking, we are still taking in information. For example, Star Wars is my favorite film franchise—but can I just turn my brain off and mindlessly take it in?
There were a few items I realized I needed to filter out of my mindset after being raised on Star Wars. First, it sugarcoats war. Most PG or PG-13 movies do this—characters just scream and fall over when they die, and good guys can mow down legions of bad guys, rarely getting hurt themselves. As a result, I grew up thinking that even though war sounded bad, it was probably something I could survive. I was thankfully able to grow out of that mindset as I got a better idea of what war is really like. Needless to say, God never sugarcoats war, and He is looking forward to doing away with it entirely (Matthew 5:9; Isaiah 2:2–4).
Secondly, Star Wars usually makes its bad guys faceless; stormtroopers are just evil and deserve to be shot for their crimes against the galaxy. In some ways, it’s no different from stories that employ orcs or killer robots—enemies that neither give nor deserve mercy. But when we apply that thinking to human beings, it takes us to places in our history like the Holocaust and other instances of genocide. We have to keep in mind that every human being is created in God’s image and that God’s master plan includes resurrection for all who have died. When God resurrects Nazis (see Matthew 12:41), do we think we’ll just gun them back down? Or, are we called to learn how to help them repent of their evil deeds? Some of the Nazis were literally called stormtroopers—and, despite all their evil in this age, they were still human beings made in God’s image and will have their opportunity to repent.
One more lesson, though there are surely others: In Star Wars, the rebels are the good guys. The rebels are not the good guys in the Bible—they include Korah, Absalom, Nimrod, and Satan himself. A quick word study will show that the vast majority of biblical references to rebel, rebels, rebellion, and rebellious refer to the Israelites’ attitudes and actions toward God and His ways! While there are times when we cannot obey men because of our greater responsibility to God (Acts 5:29), it’s clear that we should be trying to obey humanly constituted government as much as possible. David is a great example of someone who stuck to this—he had every reason to rebel against King Saul, but he waited for God to handle the situation. It’s a big topic, but the main point is that the Bible tells us to try as hard as possible to be obedient, while Star Wars celebrates the mindset of rebellion.
And, for all that, I still like Star Wars. But I try to remind myself to never turn off a biblical mindset. We have to make sure we use the Bible to filter the world and its entertainment, or the world will quickly start to influence us more than the Bible does. Don’t let the world slip in subtle messages through movies and other entertainment—keep your brain turned on. Mark Sandor. Thinking Biblically About Entertainment
It is almost Feast time and our favorite crackpot prophet has to get off another warning to Great Britain that Germany will soon overtake them and put them all into captivity after it kills a lot of them. Troubling times, indeed!
Of course, in COGland, Germany has always been the Great Satan that will rise up and destroy the United States, England, Australia, New Zealand, and a few other countries that have a WHITE Anglo-Saxon heritage.
Bwana Beto Bob always fails to mention that 17% of our population are of German heritage (49 million living in the U.S.).
Beto will have a quick answer for that.
Those 49 million Germans living in the U.S. are actually embedded assets that will turn on U.S. citizens when a secret code is delivered to all of them at the same time from South America where Hitler has been kept alive by Satan in Argentina. I mean, Herbert said so, so it HAS to be true!
One branch of them is already geared up to take over the astounding World Headquarters of the improperly named '"continuing" Church of "god"' in Grover Beach, CA. Now that the Pasadena campus has been desecrated, only the Grover Beach HQ will suffice as the governing location of all the concentration camps that will arise along the central coast.
The Bible looks to be pointing to the UK having at least some prosperity before a coming European Beast power takes it over:
23“And in the latter time of their kingdom, When the transgressors have reached their fullness, A king shall arise, Having fierce features, Who understands sinister schemes. 24His power shall be mighty, but not by his own power; He shall destroy fearfully, And shall prosper and thrive; He shall destroy the mighty, and also the holy people. 25“Through his cunning He shall cause deceit to prosper under his rule; And he shall exalt himself in his heart. He shall destroy many in their prosperity. (Daniel 8:23-25a)
Now for that to happen, Europe will have to reorganize (Revelation 17:12-13). And financial pressures will be a factor. Not getting regular payments from the UK to the EU coffers because of Brexit, plus having trade barriers with the UK, will be factors in harming the EU economy, for a time.
Brexit is hurting both the EU and UK, as are COVID and sanctions policies.
That said, the Bible shows that tThe USA and UK will be taken over by a German-dominated Europe (Isaiah 10:5-11)–so much so, that the world will marvel (cf. Revelation 13:1-4), but also prosper for a time from Europe (cf. Revelation 18).
And the UK, itself, will have financial problems off and on, before it is eliminated.
A recurring criticism of this blog (and all of the other blogs which are critical of the Armstrong Churches of God) is that the criticisms voiced here (and elsewhere) are evil and inappropriate. Banned by HWA recently highlighted a good example of this in a post titled You have been WARNED about this blog! The commentator noted: "The continuation of verbal attack and condemnation of the Church of God or any group for that matter, is biblically unsound, sinful and destructive." Never mind that the ACOGs continually criticize Roman Catholics, Protestants, and other faiths - they completely miss the irony inherent in this! More importantly, however, was this a valid criticism of our criticisms? Are such criticisms biblically unsound? Are they sinful and destructive? And, once again, if the answers to those questions are "yes," then what does that suggest about their own criticisms of other folks?
First, it should be noted that the founder of Christianity, Jesus of Nazareth, was continually criticizing the religious leaders of his day! Hence, it is a bit of a stretch to suggest that the practice is not biblically sound. What kind of criticism did Christ level at the religious leaders of his day? He criticized their hypocrisy, inconsistency, emphasis/priorities, pride, leadership style (especially their tendency toward authoritarianism vs. leading by example), and their interpretations of the Torah and God's will (See Matthew 23 and Luke 11), Now that covers a whole lot of territory! Do you recognize any of those same themes/criticisms in the posts that have been critical of the ACOGs and their leadership?
Even so, it should be noted that Jesus NEVER personalized his criticisms of the religious leaders and practices of his day! The Gospels simply do not contain ANY instances where Jesus made derogatory remarks about the personal appearance, speaking, moral character, or educational backgrounds of the folks he criticized. In short, Christ's criticisms always focused on the teachings and examples of the people who were the targets of his remarks. To be clear, Christ's criticisms were NOT personal attacks, and the characterization of criticism as such is discredited by the way that Christ handled these situations. Moreover, as Scripture indicates that Christ lived a sinless life, we must also conclude that criticism of this nature cannot be inherently evil!
Finally, unlike the "Accuser of the brethren" (Satan the Devil) whom ACOG folks are so fond of comparing us to, most of our criticisms of these folks are motivated by a desire to correct destructive behaviors and teachings - NOT to spiritually destroy the target! In other words, we are attempting to point out heretical beliefs and practices for the purpose of helping others to avoid or escape them. Hence, I would suggest that the ACOGs and their leaders heed this admonition found in the book of Proverbs in assessing their reactions to our criticisms: "If you listen to constructive criticism, you will be at home among the wise. If you reject discipline, you only harm yourself; but if you listen to correction, you grow in understanding. Fear of the LORD teaches wisdom; humility precedes honor." (Proverbs 15:31-33)
This one sentence from the posting in Member Services on Friday sets up the Sabbath messages:
Please note that Mr. Pack is going to give one more message on the Sabbath—perhaps the most fascinating one of his life!
I endure the anguish of listening and paying attention to him, so you do not have to. After listening carefully to both parts, I can state that CAD was “over-selling” for sure.
David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God drowned the Headquarters congregation with words for 2 hours and 47 minutes on the Sabbath of October 1. “The Greatest Unending Story!” Part 395 and Part 396 illustrated that the depths of desperation have no bottom.
Once again, God is blamed for why “we” can never get it right, seven years running. Technically, serious errors have occurred since 2013, but we can let that slide for today.
Spoiler Alert for Skimmers:
1) The new new new new new new new new new new date is Thursday, October 6 at 11:18am eastern. This is 10 days before The Last Great Day.
2) God intentionally blinded His end-time apostle and Elijah-to-be. This means all the Headquarters “ministers” were blind. This means all the brethren inside RCG were also blind.
3) The Chinese are “horrifically evil” people.
Repeating theme: Dave fails, and it is God’s fault. “Under thy bus, I cast thee!”
@ 01:03 I could not have dreamed that there could be so much that would come so clear and become so easy, so fast, so close to the end. But that's what happened.
It is always clear and easy after it is too late, just like looking both ways after you get into a car wreck.
Dave uses the story in John 13 to show how the disciples were blinded so they could not see Judas betraying Jesus Christ at the Passover meal. He dips the sop and hands it to Judas. Satan enters him, and he leaves. The men at the table are confused as to what is going on.
In the same way, God intentionally blinded Dave so he could not see when God's Kingdom(s) would arrive. Well, until now. Now is the time to believe him, folks.
@ 06:18 That is astonishing blindness.
@ 06:48 Until God is ready to show you something, you cannot see it. I don’t care who you are.
@ 07:39 We were looking at Trumpets. For quite a while, actually. We were staring at Trumpets before that, Elul 15.
He cuts himself a little slack by neglecting to mention the “blindness” extended back into Av, and Tammuz, and Sivan, and Iyar, and Nisan of this year.
@ 07:47 What were we looking at regarding Trumpets that was wrong? Not just wrong. All wrong. It seemed so obvious that it was Trumpets.
@ 08:16 Here’s the problem:it wasn't Trumpets, and it's not too late.And I’m gonna show you as plain as handing a sop…
Nothing builds up faith in the God we all serve, like knowing He blinded the leader of the one true church. The god that Dave preaches knowingly let him and RCG struggle for years. Forget about all the heartfelt prayers, fasting, and pleading to know the truth about the coming Kingdom. Nope. You're blind. I’m not ready. Suck it, Dave. — That is his god. That is not my God.
Dave examines the WHAT behind John 13 but never once considers the WHY. That is what is fascinating about his new angle. He sees the disciples were blinded to Jesus Christ identifying His betrayer right at the table but never answers the most crucial question: Why did God do that? Why were the disciples temporarily blinded?
The answer is Sunday-school simple: He needed them to be blind so that the scriptures could be fulfilled. Judas had to betray the Son of God, who had to die for our sins. If the disciples had been aware, they could have gotten involved and stopped it. The recording of events is for those after it was already done and not for those present.
That blindness in John 13 was a unique means to an end. It is not how the true God normally operates with His people. He struck the Syrian army with physical blindness so that Elisha could lead them into Jerusalem. He struck Elymas with blindness as he was trying to thwart Paul.
The temporary occurrence in John 13 was specific-or-the-scriptures-break blindness. It did not last years, and Dave also fails to “see” that.
@ 08:55 So, people can’t see themselves or actions in front of them.
I will let you in on a little secret. I fully believe that David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God has been stricken with blindness. Spiritual blindness. Mental blindness. And it has not yet been lifted despite what he thinks. He will begin to catch up with that on Friday morning.
@ 10:28 But as soon as Trumpets was over, I immediately knew we had to reinflate the 10 days. I knew it. Immediately. And you can’t doctor the number…You know, we looked at 30 days. We looked at 21, 15, 10, 7, 3 ½, and, as I said, even one long day. It came clear that the Bible number was 10. It was 10.
He does a redux of his redux by returning to a series of That Day(s) being 10 separate days, not one super-compressed into Trumpets. Let the past go, brethren. It will only confuse us. This is the Present Truth.
@ 13:27 So, that gave me five days to go back to the drawing board.What did we miss? We’re not goin’ another year. I said to myself.I’m not here to foretell the year.But I’m gonna absolutely tell you when the 10 days are. And you won’t doubt it. I’m gonna drown you in proof.
By the end of the message, he foretells the year. Do not read ahead. Okay. It is this year.
He admitted that nothing happened on Monday like “we” thought.
@ 14:02 Now, I could just, you know, get in a snit or curl up in a fetal position and give up and say, “That’s wrong.” Or just attack it and stay with it and see, “What was I missing in plain sight? How come I can’t see the sop handed to who got it?”
It is far easier and far more acceptable to believe that the God of the universe intentionally blinded David C. Pack and all the “ministers” at Headquarters rather than just being wrong. Rather than he is a biblical fraud and a prophetic fraud. Instead of facing the cold, hard truth of these matters, he points his finger at God and says, "You did this to me!"
@ 35:01 So then, if all of what I’ve covered so far is true, and you will learn overwhelming proof that it is, I’ll say it again, then counting forward 10 days from soon after Atonement…yields the Last Great Day.
@ 58:58 It’s the start of the 12th [of Tishrei], Jerusalem time. About 11:20 this Thursday morning. That’s just math. It's not me saying anything. It's just math. I can count to 10.And I understand this day.
Now that a 10-day Kingdom is back on the menu and Trumpets is passed, go to the Last Great Day and count back 10 days while reckoning with Jerusalem time.
Thursday, October 6 at 11:18am eastern.
It is interesting how way back on Monday, Dave poo-pooed the idea of reckoning to Jerusalem time because the inhabitants were so wicked. Maybe they cleaned up their act since then because he seems fine with it now.
He is fine with a number being literal until he needs it to be approximate or a day-for-a-year. The Bible can be broken down and rebuilt like Legos based on need.
Such are the ways of David C. Pack, Pastor General and Professional Blasphemer of The Restored Church of Another god.
@ 35:59 We’ve suspicioned the Last Great Day for four years. But we saw it as the First Kingdom.
Whether he thought it was the 1st, 2nd, or the 25th Kingdom, it does not matter. He was wrong. And he will be wrong again on Thursday. Knowing which Kingdom of God arrives precisely when is not tied to salvation.
God will do what God will do. He is not sitting in heaven tapping His feet, waiting for David C. Pack to get it right so He can move forward with the rest of His plan for all humankind. If He were waiting, we would be doomed, and God should just wipe Creation clean to start over. This was not the right guy to put all the chips on.
@ 38:42 I’m gonna show you it’s impossible that this is wrong. If it’s wrong, it’s only because we have the wrong year.Believe me, and you’ll agree long before I get through about 66 proofs here.
“I see,” says the blind man.
@ 1:00:56 You can't get out of Tishrei because you got to be right after the harvest, and summer is in play.
Remember this for when he switches to winter in a few weeks.
In a fantastic display of ironic blindness, Dave warns the members of RCG about false teachers.
@ 1:20:41 When would false teachers do the most damage to the saints?…
@ 1:20:55 Bad guys. Don’t follow them ‘cause they’re gonna be saying the time draws near. Now, we know the time is 10 days away…Christ said, “Do not follow them…” And He said they’ll be false Christs and false prophets. Doing great signs and wonders.
Do not follow David C. Pack of The Restored Church of Another god. He is a false teacher. Jesus Christ warned you about him. God intentionally blinded him and all the “ministers” at Headquarters. Listen to what the man is telling you!
When Dave starts doing miracles, it may be too late to clear out.
@ 1:43:57 And if it doesn’t happen, there’s not a chance, none, zero, and I’ve got more evidence, there’s not any chance it’s this year. Unless you want to doctor the 10 days and take authority to either dismiss it or make it historical or whatever. Or change the Last Great Day. I’m telling you, it’s locked.
Dave did “doctor the 10 days and took authority” previously. He is speaking from experience. It can be done.
@ 1:48:04 We are not seeking the 1335.A hundred billion people will be…And until that’s clear, Daniel isn’t completely unsealed. You gotta get that straight. That’s a big deal.
To the nimrods who believed Dave when he repeated that the church was in the midst of the 1335: “Ha ha ha! You thought blessings and/or salvation were coming to you when the 1335 started. Nope. I never intended that. I blinded my servant so well that he went off the deep end of the presumption circus. Stupid!" That is the god Dave serves.
He throws a hissy fit about those who have left RCG. Those who figured out his biblical scam. Those that read about this scenario in their Bibles.
@ 1:49:09 Some people wouldn’t stay here. I wanted to say, “You wanna leave? Why don’t you come up here and see how hard this is?” All you gotta do is sit there and shut up and learn. And escape.
Hear that everyone still inside RCG? Your Pastor General is telling you clearly: Sit there and shut up.
@1:49:19 No. No. No, it's taking too long. They needed patience, and they didn't have it. All seven years of the knowledge had to be earned. You had to stay with it and keep the word of Christ's patience. Can't fathom another year.
Hold on. If you admitted you have been blind for seven years, how can you be upset at those who discerned that and left? Patience has nothing to do with enduring false doctrines. You just walked back the 1335 and Trumpets. You barely scratched the surface of your false teachings due to the blindness God placed upon you.
A critical thinker might ask: How do you know you are no longer blind? If you were sure about Tammuz and Av and Elul and Trumpets, how can you be sure about anything? If God blinded you and the entire Headquarters ministry, what else are you still blind to?
Stepford Prime used to ask those types of questions. But no longer. He needs to be a good little robot because that ladder will not climb itself.
People do not leave RCG because "it is taking too long." They go because the corporate sheepfold has been captured. God is not leading the “ministers” of RCG. God is not leading David C. Pack.
He is blind and wandering in the biblical wilderness with his divining rod, hoping to strike prophetic water. The people who count on him will be sorely disappointed on Friday. Again. But they should be used to that by now.
It is hard to tell if he is more upset because some people could lose out on salvation or…ha ha ha. Just kidding. The loss of income is still a sore topic. If those people had not left, maybe the Hartman Road house would still be under his control.
After the meal, Dave was super-excited to give Part 396 and share something “the church never knew” and spent 40 minutes explaining how Leviathan is Satan. It is too bad he never learned how to use a computer and has bragged how he has never even turned one on because a search on the interwebs would have revealed this:
Even the Catholics wrote about this topic. Not to be outdone, he exercised his superior biblical knowledge by explaining that the devil can swim. To be fair, it took him 20 minutes to work up to that one.
@ 32:40 No one’s ever heard this before. Not not in my lifetime. The church of the last hundred years never knew that Leviathan was the devil because we never connected the dots.
The Google also disagrees alongside the Bing.
Wow. Forty needless minutes on this topic. Turn on a computer, Dave. It is like a library but on a single machine. A dump truck of information. The Coffee Kid will show you how it works.
@ 55:56 So then, if the Kingdom does not come on Thursday, I see no way it can be this year. I just don’t. It’s just you’re out of time. Or you have to blow up everything. All those fine-tuned metrics…all of that blows up, and so, I believe this is the end of the line. Has to be.
And blow up everything you will because this is not the end of the line. Not by a long shot. It cannot be. David C. Pack is a blind false apostle, a blind false prophet, and God is not leading him.
This following quote is something I would have pushed to be removed before it went out to the church, but nobody edits David C. Pack these days. His point is that Satan is a dragon, and the Chinese people revere it as a symbol. (The dragon, not Satan.)
@ 27:50 How come China worships, all through their history, the dragon…Long been the most important symbol of power in China. China is, in many ways, is a horrifically evil people.
Watch it for yourself. It has already been posted on social media.
You will have to forgive Dave. He was raised in a generation that would typically call Chinese people Orientals. There have been “horrifically evil people” in many countries throughout history, but that does not serve his purpose today.
@ 1:44:18 And there’s liable to be because we have evil people among us, one or two. It’s all you need. This’ll get out. There gonna be some persecution. Might be a little tough.
Quoting Dave back at himself is “persecution.” Those still attending RCG who see Dave for what he really is are “evil.” Victim much?
What a whiny little girl he can sometimes be. Arrogance has never been so insecure. Facts, history, and the dictionary are taking their toll on “this ole shepherd.”
Friday morning will be "a little tough" at the Hall of Administration here in Wadsworth. Dave, the Coffee Kid, and the Meat Shield will have to lock themselves inside the Third Floor Executive Imaginarium with the shades drawn so they can stare at bowls of water to interpret the visions “god” wants them to vomit next on the people of RCG.
I have my own bowl, but it is filled with Froot Loops. It told me that Dave will reset the clock so that it all STARTS on the Last Great Day, not 10 days before. Then, when nothing occurs on the Last Great Day, he will say it will start 10 days AFTER. It does not take a non-prophet/non-psychic to see this.
During this “final message,” Dave could not pass up the opportunity to push Common.
@ 56:55 Finish strong. Still sell all. Some are still doing that. That’s great to see. Sell all.
He is wretched, miserable, poor, blind, and naked. The more Common that is sent in, the more increased with goods he becomes.
To all those who gave Common recently, gaze upon the fruit of your doings.
Giving up a home connected to the Campus must have been like exacting a pound of flesh. These trees went in this week, so Dave does not have to weep when he walks in view of the Hartman Road property he sold just for $280,000.
When he fails again on Thursday, what other excuses will he find in the scriptures? Will he next be biblically deaf? I am crossing my fingers for him to utter, “God made me dumb.” That would cause Dennis to vibrate in his chair with excitement. Oh, the memes would write themselves.
Thursday will come and go as Trumpets came and went. David C. Pack is a blind man leading blind “ministers” leading a blind church. How much longer can this go on?