Saturday, April 13, 2024

Crackpot Prophet On Loving His Enemies

 The Church of God way...

The Great Bwana to Africa shares with his 100 Caucasians and African followers how to love their (his) 'enemies'. After all, since he is God's greatest Church of God prophet and teacher to ever exist, he must set the example.

Mercy: Loving your enemies

On the ‘Sermon on the Mount,’ Jesus taught His followers to love their enemies. Can you do that? Why should you? How can you do that? Should you pray for your enemies and do good to them? Can you forgive someone who is not sorry? How can you show mercy to those who hate you? Is God really fair? Why did God allow Adolf Hitler? Will all reap what we sow according to the Apostle Paul? Can your physical and spiritual health be affected by the root of bitterness? Can a little leaven of bitterness hurt you a lot? Are Christians really supposed to control their thoughts? What are some health problems associated with being unwilling to forgive others? Could any of your enemies actually be above you in the Kingdom of God? Could your enemies actually be blinded by Satan and his demons? Did God call you because you were better than others? Have we all be enemies to God? Did Herbert W. Armstrong teach it was difficult to forgive those who intentionally want to cause us harm? What are some passages in the Bible about love, mercy, judgment, faith, and forgiveness? Are Christians actually supposed to strive to be perfect? Could your enemies, after the age to come, actually help make your eternity better? Dr. Thiel addresses those matters and more in this sermon.

Stepping Away From The Church - Going to Hell Together


David Archuleta says this song based off what my mom told me a few days after I said I was stepping away from our church. She said she was going to step away too and then said, “If you’re going to hell, we’re all going to hell with you.” While we didn’t look at hell as many people do as Latter-day Saints at the time, and even now my transition out of religion has shifted the idea as a whole for me, I understood the sentiment she meant in what she said, and it meant a lot to me. Thank you for always loving and supporting me mom. ❤️ This song is dedicated to those who show unconditional love in a world where it’s so easy to judge things we don’t fully understand, the way my mom showed that love to me.

This is how many in Armstrongism feel when they first decide to step away from the system they were abused under or have come to realize how way off-base it was theologically. It takes courage to make that first tremendous leap to freedom. Oh, how awesome it is!

ht: Kevn Denee

Friday, April 12, 2024

Crackpot Prophet Makes Calcium Carbonate and Disodium Phosphate Sin Producing During Unleavened Bread

It is always amazing how the little weasels that the Church of God has as its leaders have to continually find ways to make the lives of members more difficult. Even though the Days of Unleavened Bread were never a requirement for Christians to keep, certain COG leaders go out of their way to place endless burdens on their members.

Years ago when Ambassador Colege was operating, one self-important moron in Pasadena had an absolute meltdown when he walked into the Natatorium pump/filter area and saw the large number of 50lb bags of bicarbonate of soda (baking soda). He went screaming to our department head DEMANDING that we dispose of all of the baking soda. Thankfully, our boss laughed in his face, as we all did, and refused to make us dump it all.

For those that do not know, sodium bicarbonate is used to keep the pH and the alkalinity of pool water balanced so it stays crystal clear.

Other foolish men demanded that toothpaste be dumped in the trash if it had baking soda in it. One idiot tried to get beer banned because it uses yeast. The list was endless as to what was allowable and what was not.

Never content to leave things alone, our Great Bwana to Africa and the occasional 100 Caucasians has now had revealed to him that calcium carbonate and disodium phosphate is now sinful at UB time:

Speaking of unleavened items, I recently learned that although Calcium Carbonate is not a leavening agent, when it is added into items that are baked it is one. Therefore, while you normally do not need to eliminate Calcium Carbonate, if it is listed as an ingredient in a baked item, that item should be consumed or disposed of prior to the start of the First Day of Unleavened Bread. Another substance I recently learned was a leavening agent is Disodium Phosphate–it is often used in packaged goods and is a leavening agent, hence packaged goods with it should be consumed or disposed of prior to the start of the First Day of Unleavened Bread.

Here are the two items Bob wants to eliminate from members' homes ( as if any of his African followers would have this):

Calcium Carbonate:

Calcium carbonate occurs in nature as limestone, chalk, marble, dolomite, aragonite, calcite and oyster shells. [NIOSH] Natural calcium carbonate can be found in the minerals calcite and aragonite (limestone, chalk, and marble). [Harber, p. 354] Calcium carbonate is used in the manufacture of quicklime, Portland cement, and paints. Pharmaceutical grades are used in cosmetics, foods, and drugs. [ACGIH] Used in paints, rubber, plastics, ceramics, polishes, inks, pharmaceuticals, adhesives, etc. [CHEMINFO] Used for whiting in glassblowing; [] 
Disodium Phosphate:

Phosphates like disodium phosphate are derived from the element phosphorus. They’re used to enhance food characteristics like nutritional value and cooking performance. Disodium phosphate is used in packaged foods, including macaroni and pastas. It’s also used in some cheeses as an emulsifier. You can also find it in meat products, canned sauces, Jell-O, evaporated milk, and some chocolate.

Originally derived from animal bones and urine, phosphorus is now extracted from phosphate rock. It’s purified and put through chemical reactions.

The COG  has always been great about majoring in the minors. looking at the small things and never at the larger picture. 

Thursday, April 11, 2024

Wake Up! The Worldwide Church of God is not destroyed. It is rising...


The Kitchen family wants you to WAKE UP!

The song is WAKE UP by Llunr. All credit goes to the artist. 

We need to wake up brethren and get away from this Babylon. 
The Worldwide Church of God is not destroyed. It is rising...

In order for the WCG to arise, they need your money:

PCG Member Goes To Doctor BEFORE Getting Anointed - Has To Repent And Ask God For Forgiveness


The Philadelphia Church of God posted a letter from a member in the members-only section of their website the following:

PCG's eternally pissed-off god was not happy that this person decided to go to the Doctor FIRST instead of getting anointed, so it had one more lesson to teach this person:

Magical god and magical phone calls from the minister. Powerful!

Then, the person has to ask the minister for permission to get a second opinion. No minister in any COG has the right to expect members to ask for permission to see a doctor or for any other decision, especially when it comes to health matters.

Divine healing, misdiagnosis, or the body correcting itself, it's hard to say. The problem with this article lies in the fact that this person thought they were turning their back on their god by going to the doctor first instead of to the minister. 

The number of licensed doctors in Armstrongism is probably around .5 - 1% and that's being generous. No minister in any COG has the qualifications to tell a member what to do with their health issues. 

The crazy belief that God is not going to heal you because you went to a doctor first is absurd. If you are going to ask the minister to anoint you while in the hospital then ask for God to guide the hands of the doctors as they perform their necessary duties.

Herbert Armstrong surrounded himself with doctors for many years and relied upon them. Many in the church woke up when they witnessed the unnecessary deaths of Richard Armstrong and Loma Armstrong. Letting the bullheadedness of Herbert destroy two lives was a wake-up call. Rod Meredith then stoked the fire more when he went to the doctor to correct an eye issue. 

Like most things in Armstrongism, the leadership did the opposite of what the members were expected to do. You can be guaranteed that Gerald Flurry, Lil'Stevie, and all the grandkids make regular use of doctors when needed.

Tuesday, April 9, 2024

UCG's Unattainable Checklist Of Things To Repent Of Before Passover

You can tell it is Passover time in COGland as members continue to get lambasted about all the things they are doing wrong and are told to repent of those sins before they dare to take Passover. This year members are being told to be watching for the following sins in their lives. Imagine how exhausting this entire list is.

wicked or inappropriate attitudes 






iniquities in us


feelings of superiority



a party spirit



 accusatory spirits

hardness of hearts 

dullness of hearing




In these end times in which we live we are admonished by God to “wake up, redeem the time, watch and pray” and “remember our calling.” The attitudes of pride, feelings of superiority, complacency, apathy, a party spirit (as described in 1 Corinthians 1:11-13 and 1 Corinthians 3:1-4), resistance as manifested in backbiting, gossip, accusatory spirits, hardness of hearts and dullness of hearing—all of which lead to disunity, discord and division—are alive and well, and on full display in the world around us. Sadly, these same attitudes can creep into the Church if we allow them to. 
As we approach Passover and the Days of Unleavened Bread, we must remember the words of our Savior on that last evening before He was crucified. His will was and is for His disciples to be “at one” with each other and with Him and God the Father. That takes acknowledgment, repentance, seeking forgiveness and reconciliation—all of which are part of our Christian lifestyle. Unity of the Spirit, unity of faith, unity in the truth and one-ness with God and each other take effort and constant vigilance. Satan will do anything to come between us and God, and us and each other. Let us all be aware as we prepare for the Passover in a “worthy manner, rightly discerning the Lord’s body” as God instructs in 1 Corinthians 11:27-29.

From the weekly Home Office report.  

"Prophetic and Davidic Fuckery": Concept Certified and Approved by Gary :)


NO2HWA said...

Dennis wrote:
"Dave practices "Theological Fuckery' and is the basis for all his mistaken notions about the intent of scripture and his personal inclusion in them. It's simply inarguable an impossible for Dave to claim any kind of theological training save that which he has concocted in his beautiful mind."

Love this! This pretty much sums up what Pack, Thiel, Flurry, Weinland, Billingsley do


Let us now consider the Prophetic and especially Davidic Fuckery, where Apostle David C Passover now easily sees wherever he sees the name "David" in the scriptures, it is referring very often referring to himself in these times. 

In a normal theological setting, this would be considered a deep-seated kind of theological narcissism, self-absorption, blasphemy and not a little bit of a deviant personality disorder, but with David C Passover, it's just who he is. And, of course, David C Pack has never created a normal theological setting in his life. 

In the real world of studied theological and Biblical studies, The Branch is the Messiah to the Jews and Jesus Christ to NT Christians.  Dave Pack? Not so much.

As well, Dave has to admit that it was not his god that revealed this to him, but flesh and blood. Mr Dale Shurter who was overseeing the agricultural aspects of the campus and produced his own drama for Dave.


According to Apostate David C Passover...

"It talks about him, I don't know, maybe about a dozen times. This man is referred to. There his name isn't found. (But) In chapter in chapter 55 it is and Psalm 89 and Hosea 3 and so forth....  It's awkward to cover this but...


Psalm 89:3 You said, “I have made a covenant with my chosen one, I have sworn to David my servant,

Hosea 3:5   Afterward the children of Israel shall return and seek the Lord their God and David their king. They shall fear the Lord and His goodness in the latter days.

"When you are in this world you have to have somebody on this throne and somebody who is directing sacrifices , who is a Levite.  And I know for a fact I'm descended from both

"I will raise him. Christ comes and (muddled word) and raises him. I will raise unto David... Now try to imagine this Branch is Christ. You're going to raise Christ unto David, the ancient King David?  WHAT? But if there was some human being who was the last King to sit on David's Throne in this world, it would make perfect sense. You would raise a man, servant...EVEN WITH THE SAME NAME.  But also hide from the world what you're doing. The last man to sit on David's throne was named David but he was a servant, and he was a man...."

Apostate David C Passover determines that he is "The Branch"
Part 3

If you want to wallow in more of Dave's foolish shepherding, this is part 2 of Dave Pack declaring himself to be "The Branch"

Apostle David C Passover's Full Series Now available in Hard Cover...
but only if you "send it in". 

Bonus Fuckery

"Now what I'm  going to cover at this point is awkward. I actually thought about skipping this material."

"John 15 and verse one. Every time I read the word "David" in scriptures it gets awkward. But it's my job to carry out this charge."

Monday, April 8, 2024

Is It Possible To Have True Friends In The COG Who Stick By You No Matter The Circumstance


Anyone who has been in the Church of God for any time values the friends they think they have made in the church and believes that they will stick by you no matter what happens in life. That might be until you either leave the church or are kicked out by some ludicrous claim by a so-called minister or church leader. Then you quickly learn that those so-called friends are merely only acquaintances. Very few if any continue friendships with those who have been kicked out of teh church due to the draconian rules of control the church has over members. With veiled threats of losing one's salvation if you dare to talk to ex-members, even when passing in supermarkets. Many will see former friends and watch them quickly go to another aisle so that they do not have to talk with each other.

Living Church of God has this up on friendship. It is a strange read considering the number of families and relations broken up by the church and Rod Meredith over the decades. Yet, they have this to say:

Foundations of Friendship: We all want to have friends, yet, sometimes we lack the skills to achieve this goal. However, the Bible provides us with important keys. Solomon wrote that to have friends, we must be friendly (Proverbs 18:24), we must treat people with kindness and have pure motives (Proverbs 22:11), and support others in their time of need (Proverbs 17:17). True friends will tell you the truth and offer wise counsel; they will not use flattery or spread gossip (Proverbs 27:6–17). Real friends are gracious, hospitable, and concerned about the needs of others (Acts 27:3). True friendship involves being willing to make personal sacrifices for others who have needs—Jesus was willing to lay down His life for people He called His friends (John 15:13). Jesus said we can become His friends—if we follow His instructions and His example (John 15:14). This is how Abraham became a friend of God (James 2:23). Let’s strive to become kind, caring, and friendly Christians. 
Have a profitable Sabbath,
Douglas S. Winnail

Don't forget - Jesus Returns April 21, 2024

Crackpot Prophet Weighs In On The Eclipse

Why is it that Church of God leaders and ministers feel they have to weigh in on every single thing talked about or going on in the world around them? No one really cares what any of these hosers really think, especially since they have all been proven to be false prophets and false teachers. The proven track record of 80 years of prophetic lies and half-truths makes every single one of them untrustworthy in everything they say.

Yet, our very own crackpot prophet, the Great Bwana to Africa, God's most highly favored representative to walk this earth since Paul and James feels he needs to tell his too-stupid-to-have-common-sense followers what to do and not to do when looking at the eclipse.

So, those who plan to try to view the solar eclipse need to exercise caution so that they do not injure their eyes. Those who view the eclipse without proper protection are are real risk of permanently damaging their vision. Some could even lose their eyesight. 
That is a fact.

One fact that needs to be understood is that in Armstrongism there are a LOT of crackpot theories and beliefs that occupy members' minds. Given the fact that so many were gullible enough to fall for many of the false "truths" of Armstrongism, they are now gullible for any conspiracy theory and other nonsense that run rampant through the Church of God movement. From Fema concentration camps designed to house true believers, the pathetic holocaust deniers, the 9-11 was an inside job, the flat earth crowd, the die-hard believers that HWA is going to be resurrected to come to back and rescue the church and that Bob Thiel, Ron/Laura Weinland, Dave Pack, and Gerald and Stephen Flurry being one/both of the two witless witnesses.  If there is a conspiracy then the Church of God is right in the midst of it or creating a new one.

Credit does go to the Great Bwana Bob Mzungu though for calling out some of the crazier crap that the WorldNetDaily (the go-to news source for the COG) trash news publishes as false, but then goes on to add his utter falderal

World Net Daily, again, put out something related to Mark Biltz:

April 6, 2024
WND has reported Pastor Mark Biltz of El Shaddai Ministries, an expert on those historical perceptions, noted in the Bible, solar events are recorded as having a remarkable and sometimes supernatural significance. 
He explained control over the sun was demonstrated by God in the three-day Plague of Darkness, and is prophesied to be an essential part of the End Times. The Prophet Joel (2:31) predicted, “The sun will be turned to darkness and the moon to blood before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord.” The Prophet Amos makes a similar prediction: “And in that day – declares my God – I will make the sun set at noon, I will darken the earth on a sunny day.” 
The timing of Joel 2:31 is AT LEAST 2 1/2 YEARS AFTER THE START OF THE GREAT TRIBULATION. Mark Biltz has a history of false prophetic interpretations and I have denounced him for his views on this April 8th eclipse and several of his previous errors related to blood moons.

Then he gets to Michael Snyder and his crap that he calls out and then adds his own absurdities about the cross:

And then there is Michael Snyder. He is not prone to make the same type of false statements and predictions that Mark Biltz has done. But while he often has good points, Michael Snyder has a tendency to misunderstand many aspects of Bible prophecy as well as to point to matters that are not significant, suggesting that they are. Related to this solar eclipse, he posted the following: 
Have You Heard About The 2 Gigantic Crosses That Stand At The Intersections Of The Eclipses? 

Something truly extraordinary is going to happen as the Great American Eclipse of 2024 passes over the United States, and hardly anyone is talking about it. … 
A 111 foot tall cross stands where the path of the Great American Eclipse of 2024 will intersect with the path of the Great American Eclipse of 2017 on April 8th. 
And a cross that is 77 feet and 7 inches tall stands where the path of the Great American Eclipse of 2024 will intersect with the path of the “ring of fire” solar eclipse of 2023 on April 8th. 
Is it just a coincidence that 2 giant crosses stand at the intersections of these eclipses? 
I don’t think so. 
I believe that only God could have orchestrated this. … 
Ultimately, I am entirely convinced that the Great American Eclipse of 2024 is meant to point us to Jesus and the cross, but the vast majority of the population seems to be completely missing that point.
First of all, no I do not believe that God orchestrated this eclipse so it would intersect with those crosses nor “that the Great American Eclipse of 2024 is meant to point us to Jesus and the cross.” 
Among other reasons, the cross is not a true Christian symbol–it was not used by early Christians–but something adopted from paganism that became popular during and after the reign of the sun-worshiping Emperor Constantine in the 4th century.

Instead of calling out Snyder for this craziness, the Great Bwana Bob Mzungu has to throw in his moronic twist on the symbol of the cross. 

The Great Bwana Bob Mzungu despises the cross and everything it represents and that was accomplished by it. He despises the cross because it represents the Righteousness of God, the self-righteousness of his own self, and his inability to do what is right no matter how hard he tries or claims he has succeeded. The Great Bwana Bob has always placed himself foremost in front of Jesus as the end-time great revealer and authority on EVERYTHING, especially prophecy. No human Church of God leader has ever been more prophetically accurate than he. Salvation is only through the Great Bwana Bob Mzungu and his improperly named "'continuing' church of a lesser god".

It is because of hosers like Bob Thiel, Dave Pack, Ron Weinland, Gerald Flurry, and others, that no one cares what they say anymore, even if there might be some half-truth/truth embedded in their statements.


God Cannot Commit Anomaly. It's Impossible!





Jesus Christ Returns

Daniel’s 70th Week Begins Abib 1

April 8, 2024 @ SUNSET

"If God does it some other way, then it's an anomaly from anything that's ever happened before."

David C Pack

"something that deviates from what is standard, normal, or expected:"
By days end, The Elijah to Come ,  Messenger of the Covenant and "good man of the house",  David C Pack, will once again forgive his god for committing Anomaly and sweep it under the rug.


79 Dates From March 2022 to March 2024 where God committed Anomaly.

2022: Tammuz 1 15 20 Av 1 2 3 4 5 7 10 15 20 30

Elul 1 15 20 21 22 23 24 26-ish

Tishrei 1 Trumpets x2 Tishrei 12 13 15 x2 19 20 24

Cheshvan 1 25 Kislev 1 Thanksgiving Kislev 16 20

Tevet 1 Christmas Eve Tevet 8 New Year’s Eve

2023: Tevet 21 January 14 23 24 25 26 x2 February 7 10 22 March 6 7 10 17 22

April 1 5 7 12 May 5 18 20/21 28 June 18 20 24 July 1 3 13 18 28

September 29 30 October 6 7 16 29 November 4 5 December 22 31

2024: April 8/9 (Abib 1) April 21 (Passover / Abib 14) Cheshvan 1 (November 2)

2025: Abib 1 15

Butt Wait! There's More!


"There is no other way I can find to read it. ...  it's impossible to argue with this!  It's IMPOSSIBLE!"

04/08/24 03:29 AM

Sunday, April 7, 2024

Is It Wrong to Question God?

Questioning God?

The Armstrong Churches of God have always portrayed the "truth" about God and Scripture as fragile, and something that is only revealed to a few and easily lost. In other words, they have always actively discouraged their members from questioning God or their interpretations of Scripture. For them, once you have received the "truth," your sojourn for understanding is over. Indeed, according to them, further questioning or exploration is dangerous and might lead you to lose the understanding that you have attained. Does that bring to mind one of Christ's parables? It should.

The Gospels tell us that Jesus presented the Parable of the Talents and the Parable of the Pounds to his disciples. In both parables, a man commits some of his resources to his servants. In the Parable of the Talents we read that "he who had received the one talent went and dug in the ground and hid his master's money." (Matthew 25:18, ESV) When the man returned, the servant explained to his master "I knew you to be a hard man, reaping where you did not sow, and gathering where you scattered no seed, so I was afraid, and I went and hid your talent in the ground. Here, you have what is yours." (Verses 24-25) Likewise, in the Parable of the Pounds, the servant who had received one pound, told his master upon his return: "Lord, here is your pound, which I kept laid away in a napkin; for I was afraid of you, because you are a severe man; you take up what you did not lay down, and reap what you did not sow." (Luke 19:20-21, RSV) Interestingly, in both of these parables, the master of the servants was very displeased with the servant who had failed to increase what had been entrusted to him. Indeed, in the Parable of the Talents, we read that the servant's master replied: "You wicked and slothful servant! You knew that I reap where I have not sown and gather where I scattered no seed? Then you ought to have invested my money with the bankers, and at my coming, I should have received what was my own with interest. So take the talent from him and give it to him who has the ten talents. For to everyone who has will more be given, and he will have an abundance. But from the one who has not, even what he has will be taken away. And cast the worthless servant into the outer darkness. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth." (Matthew 25:26-20) Hence, from these two parables, it is reasonable to conclude that God and Christ expect whatever understanding has been given to their servants to be increased by them. According to Jesus Christ, it isn't a one-and-done kind of deal!

Indeed, in the Gospel of Matthew, Jesus told those same disciples to "Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives, and the one who seeks finds, and to the one who knocks it will be opened." (7:7-8, ESV) In the epistle of James, believers are instructed that "If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask God, who gives generously to all without reproach, and it will be given him." (James 1:5, ESV) And, there is also that ACOG famous quotation from Paul's second letter to Timothy: "All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness." (II Timothy 3:16, ESV) How does that happen? By studying and asking questions! (see Acts 17:11, II Timothy 2:15, and I Peter 3:15) In conclusion, I like the way that my Bing Copilot (AI companion) put it: "In summary, the Bible encourages us to ask, seek, and knock, and it emphasizes the importance of prayer and seeking wisdom from God. 🙏" In other words, if you've never asked those questions, how can you expect to ever be able to answer the folks who are unafraid to ask them?

 Miller Jones/Lonnie C Hendrix 

Was I REALLY in a "Freakin" Cult? Meet Melina Oien Who Has "Figured Some Stuff Out!"


After her Sisters' Suicide - everything began to change for Melina and her family which lead to massive struggle and painful family changes at around age 14. Eventually, with serious health challenges for her daughter and herself, Melina reached rock bottom and had no choice but to draw a line in the sand and reach out for help from "the world" who saved her life from our perspective! She did the deep dives and after 3 years was willing to talk about "the cult" and face the deeper "scary stuff" that brought so much trauma and pain, PTSD and an Auto Immune Condition which was at was at the root of everything. Amazing Woman, Amazing Story!

Medical Neglect Gone Mad! Letting People Die Unnecessarily? No Medication? w/Sara Ahrenholtz. Part 2

People dying unnecessarily due to fear of obtaining medical help even if it was serious - fear of not making it into the Kingdom for lack of faith or disobedience to the law as interpreted by men (pedophiles even). Oh My Goodness! The stories you will hear in here! Did you experience similar? People not getting help with Cancer to their dying day. Sara losing her friend Kelly to cancer at age 9!!! but standing firm by her faith to her dying day, perhaps wanting to please her parents. Poor thing! Were these pastors who guilted them when they mentioned the possibility of getting help also responsible for murder? Keeping them from getting medical help - like the Jehovah's Witnesses who couldn't take blood (with a person assigned to make sure they didn't at the hospital)?