More Craziness From Restored Church of God: Two More Prophet/Elijah's Emerge From Dave Pack's Church

 

Only on Banned!

If you thought the craziness of Dave Pack's world couldn't get any crazier, then read what follows. How many more prophets and Elijahs does the Church of God need in its midst?

From an RCG source:

In addition to Alex Groen starting an organization, there are also two “prophets” that have come out of Restored, one of which has a small following.

The first one is a guy by the name of Joseph Birt. He has a number of posts on Facebook. I’ve included some of the more interesting ones in this email.

 

The second one is Alexandre Desmarais. Alexandre was kicked out of RCG in early 2020 for claiming to be none other than... drum roll... Elijah! He managed to convince his wife, two young children, his cousin, a longtime friend, and another member from Western Canada. So there are six people that follow him, including the kids. Together, they refer to themselves as “The Elijah Team.” All of those that are following Alexandre also consider themselves to be prophets.

“The Elijah Team” has produced several documents that “prove” that Alexandre is Elijah. Alexandre is from Quebec, Canada, and one of the documents supposedly proves that Elijah is from that area of the world. You can’t make this stuff up. I’ve included a couple of PDFs that they’ve produced.

 

Dave Pack: "IF you haven't SOLD ALL - I counsel you to DO IT. You Only Have 8 Days Left!

 

Well, folks, you can soon kiss your butt goodbye! The time is finally here! Woo Hoo! Only less than 8 days to go! 

Dave delivered his awe-inspiring message Wednesday night at his weekly Bible Study and the faithful sat there like idiots lapping it all up. This was sermon 355 in his never-ending series.

Dave instructed his people to SELL ALL (for like the 500th time) and if they haven't done it by now things are going to be REALLY bad for them.

From an RCG source (emojis are by the source)

He finishes Part 355 by saying:

"God revealed the mystery - things His little group would never see till they got to the END of the series...

Be READY - we're gonna talk this Sabbath... 

IF you haven't SOLD 💰💰ALL 🤑🤑 - I counsel you to DO IT - you do NOT want to go in THERE (pointing at the 1st little glass period of 30 days).

So we MAY have SOME AMONG US..... IF you DON'T think THIS IS God's Church - get STRAIGHTENED OUT💰💰 RIGHT NOW OR.... 

Maybe move on and face your eternity one way or the other, down a different path.

But I'm gonna say with just 8.5 days to go - MEET GOD'S CHECKLIST💰🤑...

I'll see you, Sabbath"

Dave Pack Is Getting Electrified!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If there has ever been a Church of God leader locked into a perpetual Groundhogs Day loop, it has to be Dave Pack. Other than Bob Thiel, the church has never had a leader with such an abysmal prophetic failure as Dave Pack has. Not one thing he has said about his "christ" returning has happened, not even after 350+ sermons, Bible studies, and stupid articles. Dave's "christ" has had his bags packed and waiting by the pearly gates for years now and still hasn't been able to return because Dave has not figured out the right time.

On March 22, one of Dave's fanboys sent out the following to the faithful:

"Dear brethren,

Warm greetings from Headquarters!

God’s people are ⚡electrified⚡ after the message last Sabbath.

Please NOTE that Mr. Pack is planning to give another Bible Study tomorrow, Wednesday, March 23. A second study will likely follow this coming Sabbath.

He wanted to LET YOU KNOW that IF you were ☠️INSPIRED☠️ by the previous message, he is JUST getting 🔥warmed🔥 up!" (From an RCG source, emoji's where added by source)

These stupid little sound bites used to "electrify" the brethren are getting so predictable.  This Saturday after he delivers another mind-boggling sermon that is shocking beyond measure, his "christ" will still not be returning on time.

 

Dave Pack "...has unashamedly led his membership on a wild farcical Adventist ride that has been nothing short of shameful"

WHAT ABOUT THE TRUTH said...

I was just cleaning my desk out and found an old CD of one of Dave's sermons. I miss Dave, so I had to play it.

What did Dave have to say? He asked do you know what makes God's church different than all the other Christian churches? We obey all that God commands us to do including obeying the traditions established by the righteous servant and apostle Herbert Armstrong.

He then went on to explain that a number of ministers and members had left the church in the last two weeks. One of the ministers was found to be quite bad in his conduct but Dave and headquarters never knew.

To fix this situation from never happening again, he went on to quote Paul who told the brethren to mark them that are disorderly and sow division. This is a command the THEY have to obey he told them, even if that person is a minister.

It only takes one quick glance into the RCG to see who is perpetrating great disorder and division.

For the past 10 years the "all brethren reunited" and "greatest story never told" series has amounted to at least half of all of those sermons being either completely thrown away or completely reinterpreted. I would say that is division.

For the past 10 years Dave has defined himself as the person or role fulfillment of at least a dozen named individuals in the Bible. That means 12 people just got kicked out of the Bible to make way for Dave. I would call that division.

How many marriages, how many families and how many homes did Dave divide in half for his take of the money via "Common"? That is called division.

How many people were terminated, excommunicated and publicly humiliated for calling out his lies? That is disorder.

Who has unashamedly led his membership on a wild farcical Adventist ride that has been nothing short of shameful? That is a disorder which creates much disorder.

Dave Pack: "we are "swimming in metrics"

 

From an RCG source

According to the master, prophesy is an "enigma" and an "obscure saying". So, I suppose this means that God was simply drawing our attention to these enigmas for the last six years, not actually solving them through His chosen apostle of glory. Huh, you still get disfellowshipped for respectful disagreement with his interpretations. I'm confused, is God's authority behind His word or the man He so obviously has chosen? Interesting times.

Also of note, shout it to the whole world... we are "swimming in metrics"... we are IN the season of the anti-christ. But not to worry, 100 Billion people will soon be resurrected to face the judgment of David C Pack in a 75 day window in an environment of paradise.

We are left to ponder the addition of a new glass to the table and an ominous question mark indicating its time signification. 

A personal note: I know most of the people sitting in that hall, attending these insane Bible studies. They are in a hopelessly trapped position, unable to speak anything that would even remotely undermine the authority of the series while at the same time planning Church events months into the future, ie into a time which they are duty bound to believe and speak as though will be a time of prophetic fulfillment. Many of these individuals/couples/families have liquidated their assets and given the proceeds to the Church. They now live in homes owned by the Church and they derive their household income from the Church. One misstep or misspeak and they lose it all... they're out on the street with nothing. They have fallen into a trap that is very difficult to get out of. Pack has them right where he needs them, constantly lending their credibility to the derangement of the RCG with no ability to escape.

Imagine if you will...

Apostle Dave Pack...

 

“This highway leads to the shadowy tip of reality: you're on a through route to the land of the different, the bizarre, the unexplainable...Go as far as you like on this road. Its limits are only those of mind itself. Ladies and Gentlemen, you're entering the wondrous dimension of imagination. . .
Next stop The Twilight Zone.”
― Rod Serling

RCG: God Is Looking Into The Hearts of LAZY RCG Members Who Are Not Participating In The "Loose Change Challenge"

 

Dave Pack: Now that everything I have said has failed to happen, I assure you it will happen by the end of the month of Abib. Much has been now clarified...

After another round of prophetic failures, more excuses...

 

From an RCG source:

Prophetic Update  YESTERDAY  April 4, 2021

We trust all of you worldwide had a very meaningful and enjoyable Last Day of Unleavened Bread. We certainly did here at Headquarters. There is of course the largest of questions on everyone’s mind: Must we wait a year or longer for the Kingdom now that the Spring Holy Days are over? The answer is no! Much has clarified and presents a path forward.

An analogy perfectly sets up this prophetic update: Think of the month of Abib as a property with 30 acres (representing days). As of yesterday, we only built a hedge around 21 of those acres. What we came to realize last night is simple—we needed to expand the fence to include all 30 acres—to hedge about the entire month of Abib.

But there is even more to Deuteronomy 16:1 than meets the eye! We are not only to “observe” (guard, build a hedge around) Abib, but also “keep the Passover”—the entirety of the Feast. “Keep” carries powerful meaning central to our wait—“to do or make.” “Doing the will of God” is explicitly tied to “keeping (doing) the Passover”!

The picture that could only emerge after we have done the will of God is that we wait a little while after keeping the Days of Unleavened Bread, with everything happening inside the month of Abib. Just think of the middle verses in Zechariah 11, which fit this scenario perfectly. Without getting into detail, we can expect big events to develop before the month is out.

Keep your eyes peeled! Our “observing” and “doing” will soon pay off with the arrival of the Kingdom of God!

Dave Pack: This Is Going To Be One Hell Of A LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG Day!

 

From an RCG source:

Prophetic Update    April 1YESTERDAY

The Last Day of Unleavened Bread is fast approaching. As explained earlier this week, this Holy Day is the one we are all waiting for—the “season (time)”—“last season”—“last day”—also the “evil day”—the “day of Christ”—and “that day”!

Many may be wondering, how can so much be compressed into a single day? Could everything we know about really fit within a single 24-hour period? Mr. Pack has long battled this problem. The answer came to be no—this must be a long day! First, recall what we have termed “Joshua’s long day,” when “the sun stood still, and the moon stayed [in its place]” (Joshua 10:13), stretching a normal 24-hours.

Enough knowledge developed that Habakkuk 3, centering on verse 11, in fact teaches that God intends to do this again on the day He arrives to set up His Kingdom. Carefully reading all of chapter 3 in the context of chapter 2 about the Man of Sin actually reveals 3:11 cannot be the Day of the Lord. (But of course the Day of the Lord is also long—Zechariah 14:6-7.) The language and events described now make this impossible to believe! A couple of examples are that the chapter describes resurfacing this earth, not burning it up and replacing it. It is also when salvation comes and when Habakkuk receives his own. While a bit of the language can be tricky to the less-trained eye, the chapter is in fact loaded with evidence that the day it describes starts the acceptable year, not ends it!

This makes the timing of God’s arrival almost of no concern. It also settles why we cannot know or think up the hour that Christ arrives (on what is the same day the Father comes later). Consider. There are 24 time zones in play, including Headquarters, but also Jerusalem’s time zone possibly at the center of God’s thinking or not. Now couple this with the fact that God intends to stretch this day, making the time He chooses to send Christ less critical. Then remember that almost all verses describing the time of Christ’s arrival use parables! The result is that Mr. Pack has stressed there is now very little guidance we can give on any particular “timing scenario.” We are all left to watch with our spiritual “lights burning.”

Time fails to tell of other powerful indicators/proofs we have learned about the apparent certainty of this year versus one or more years to follow. The broad metrics of timing leave little or no room to doubt 2021! May knowing this much encourage you.

Finally, how exactly God’s Kingdom begins—the complexity of things that come first in His Plan—became plain at last! The long struggle to pin down the difficult matters of what happens “out of the gate” suddenly vanished for all those who were patient to the end. (The long struggle ended with correctly locating the first long day.) Mr. Pack wanted it stressed that those who have left us are almost certainly still in play within God’s Plan, although the fire is now their path to eternal life! In the meantime we are left to “judge nothing before the time, until the Lord [God] come” (I Cor. 4:5).

Dave Pack sets new date for return of his "christ"

 

The merry-go-around is still spinning in the Restored Church of God. The creature Dave calls "christ" keeps changing its mind and now has a new day for its return. The new date is Saturday, April 3, 2021! Dave's creature is set to return on the Sabbath!  Woo Hoo! Not only that, real Christians will be celebrating Holy Saturday. This is going to be fantastic!

I will make a more sure prophecy right now. This will be an astounding FACT! Dave's creature will NOT return this weekend, or by this time next year. Guaranteed fact!

Update. March 30, 2021 

 

In closing Part 300, Mr. Pack stressed our wait could extend all the way to the Last Day of Unleavened Bread. It will! While the case seemed unlikely then, it now appears impossible that anything can occur until that day. The reasons for this are many. Every question can be answered. 

 

The LAST day tells the whole story. Christ is revealed and our salvation comes in the last season. The saints are raised on the last day. The day (singular) tries every man’s work. You can no doubt think of other relevant verses that fit this scenario. Let us continue the process of deleavening our lives as we await this most special Last Day of Unleavened Bread!

The Real Truth: Why Dave Pack's Creature Called "christ" Has Been Delayed....

From a reader:

Various denominations have the title “Right Reverend” for certain of their dignitaries (compare to “Right Honourable” in British usage, “right” carrying the sense of “very”) who merit such distinction. David Pack doesn’t get such a title —even if the COG allowed such titles — because he is not very “reverend” and he is so very wrong much of the time, the opposite of the another use of the word “right.”

However, I do see, thanks to some scurrilous website, that he has made the following remark:

“But if somehow God wanted to do that and let things drift out of Unleavened Bread, but "raise" everybody for the “Great Supper” on that day, then that's his prerogative. I don't see how it fits but I don't want to preclude it“
This is an important statement for several reasons: “I don’t see how it fits,” is probably the truest and rightest thing Pack has said. Secondly, if God wants to do something, that’s God’s “prerogative.” Two true statements in one sentence. Is this a personal best for Mr Pack?

Further, he doesn’t “want to preclude” God’s right to do whatever the hell God wants to do. I can’t think of a greater example of modesty and humility.

I offer up another possibility here, Coming from the East, on His way to Wadsworth, Christ’s ship was delayed by that mess in the Canal. Surely we can find a prophetic verse to back this up. But failing that, I revert to my often voiced prophecy that Pack will “discover” that Christ has indeed returned, and is presently dwelling in Mr Pack’s body. He has resisted the truth of this simply because he was being modest, but now (or when) all other possibilities are exhausted, it’s the only logical possible solution.

Stay tuned.

Dave Pack Moves The Goal Posts Again: Wild Elephants Can't Stop us from a 1 Year Wait!

“Don’t pee on my leg and tell me it’s raining.” – Judge Judy

The craziness in Wadsworth continues as Dave moves the goalposts once more concerning the timing of his creature he calls "christ" and the date of his second coming.

From an RCG source:

(This message was given on the First Day of Unleavened Bread, where Dave skipped the double service so he could prepare these 45 minutes explaining why RCG’s predictions were wrong again. The quote is the conclusion to Part 300) 

 

Now I want to just say this because I've been wrong before on timing. Let's allow that somehow, all these points [the previous 45 minutes of points] could, somehow suggest a Last Day of Unleavened Bread, start of the “84 hours.” ...But if somehow God wanted to do that and let things drift out of Unleavened Bread, but "raise" everybody for the “Great Supper” on that day, then that's his prerogative. I don't see how it fits but I don't want to preclude it, because if we got through Tuesday, the question is the same. “Do you think we're going another year or maybe another three and a half days? Or through to Wednesday morning?” Therefore, we may speculate that sometime midweek, about Tuesday night through Wednesday morning, mirroring “Christ's Last Supper” we'll see God and Christ for the "Great Supper."

The 84 hours were described in Daniel as opening with a resurrection, some unto eternal life, others would go on to everlasting shame and contempt. That's the start of it. Everything begins with the "Great Supper." Now, I guess, after all was said and done, this is Part 300. All right. I guess it was destined to be. Would this "short message," in fact, be the “final ration,” “given in due season” before Christ is revealed in the same season, before on the last day of that season, we see all Israel and all the saints. On the first day of unleavened bread, the message would be given, that I unexpectedly had to race, rush to review and then assemble, through nonstop study beginning last night at the dinner table with some ministers. And I went home late into the night, got up this morning and stayed with it all day long. And didn't get to hear what I'm sure were, two wonderful sermons and sermonettes to others.

And then that message would be delivered after which we are to "watch." It would seem so. We're still more on track than the whole church knows, you now know it, but everybody else does. And if I go too long, it's too much translating and too much other time loss of time and then others may not hear this. But if Unleavened Bread totally all of it ends, then "wild elephants" cannot pull us back from a full one-year wait. That's why I wanted to throw in, in case I'm wrong on the timing that everything on the last day, rather than Tuesday night or Wednesday, I wanted to say only then would we have a one-year wait, not because as we got through, um, Passover a couple of nights ago, and we were somehow still here. I hope this helps, godspeed Christ's return sometime the middle of this week before we all are together, on the last day you now know of Unleavened Bread.

 

David C Pack/RCG: "ALEX GROEN- FORMER HEADQUARTERS MINISTER ON DAVE PACK!"

 

Hey Dave Pack and His Ministerial Enablers in Wadsworth....Where's Christ?

 

Hey Dave!  Where's Jesus? We are waiting!

Now that Passover and the Night to be Much Observed are over in Wadsworth, 

where is that Christ Dave predicted?

Why have you ministers in Wadsworth continued to enable Dave in his failed prophecies? 

When will you ever wake up? Dave is lying to you. Not one single thing he has predicted has come true and yet there you are, scratching his back and standing in awe as he walks by

 gracing you with his presence.

Dave Pack Latest Prophetic Update: The Countdown is On! Christ is waiting for ALL COG brethren to take Passover before he returns!

 

How many more times will Dave cry "wolf"?

Get ready COG members! Dave's creature he calls "christ" is waiting for all true believers around the world to take the Passover before he returns! 

Is Dave finally going to get this wish that COG members in other COG groups would flock to his feet as they see his awesomeness and ditch their worthless Pastor Generals and Chief Overseers for the One True Awesome Dude?

One problem JC is going to have is that there are at least 3 different days that COG groups gather for Passover. They can't even agree on this day let alone anything else. How will he know when all COG members have taken the Passover?

Can you imagine what a shitfest Petra will be when everyone arrives and finds out Dave is in charge! Oy vey!!!!!!! Bob Thiel, Vic Kubik, Gerald Flurry, and Gerald Weston will all need a 3 1/2 year's worth of Depends. Can you imagine Bob Thiel humbling himself to kneel at Dave's glorious feet? This is going to be fantastic!

Dave writes:

Prophetic Update
YESTERDAY (Mar 25)

Passover is less than a day away for us at Headquarters, and only hours away for some of you in the Far East. This day is crucial in God’s soon-to-unfold Plan, but for different reasons than we understood yesterday.

The New Testament Passover is in some regards the most important night of the year for Christians. God takes careful note of how His people prepare (or do not prepare) to take the symbols. There is no greater time of self-examination and preparation. It has become clear that God may want ALL brethren worldwide (seventh era included) to take the Passover prior to Christ’s arrival. What could be more crucial in determining the spiritual condition of each of His children?

Notice I Corinthians 11:26­: “For as often as you eat this bread, and drink this cup, you do shew the Lord's death till He come.” This could easily be read to mean we take the Passover before Christ comes!

Now think! The actual feast picturing Israel leaving Egypt begins Saturday night—the First Day of Unleavened Bread. This is the Night To Be Much Observed. This is when the physical Passover lamb was eaten anciently. Would this not picture the GREAT Supper? Related, we have studied the Scriptures enough to know the importance of the weekly Sabbath in God’s mind. This scenario also further elevates the seventh day.

In practical terms, if God wants everyone everywhere to take the symbols, the earliest possibility for Christ’s Return would appear to be deep into tomorrow night. Think of yesterday’s announcement. This would mean He arrives to set up the Kingdom with the Old Testament Passover/Night To Be Much Observed still “in” the Kingdom.

All this said, continue to stay alert now—and all the way into the start of the Holy Day season!

Dave Pack: I may have been wrong, but I am always right.

 

Some things never change with Dave:

Dave Pack: "I was wrong, but I'm still right..."
Now that Mr. "We don't set dates" is laying out his own template for blaming and backpedaling, how long will it be before he realizes that "If I build it, no one will come..."? How long before he has to come up with new tactics in order to reel in tithepayers who don't even remember HWA much less believe he was the "final Elijah"? How long will Mr. "Sixty is the new thirty" be able to convincingly threaten his members with Tribulation and Lake of Fire if they don't give until it hurts and then give more? How long will he be able to bash from the pulpit any unemployed members who don't go out and "collect cans" in order to not "appear before the Lord empty" on any given "holy day"? How long will he continue to berate his members for not exceeding the previous holy day offering? (That particular mandate isn't even in the book. Maybe the Hebrew for "give as you are able" really means "Fork over every last red cent.") How long will he continue to threaten members who dare to take it upon themselves to determine whether or not they should pay "third tithe"? (At least he is gracious enough to extend the ministry's "guidance" to anyone who is "confused" about the terms of "eligibility/exemption"...) How long will he continue to promote his idea that "Heresy = sin, and sin = heresy" while defending HWA's alleged indiscretions? (He actually stated that even if he knew that HWA were guilty of everything he was accused of -- even incest -- he would still follow him. He loves to shuffle the deck of "doctrine vs. conduct" at his convenience.) 

 

How long will Pack preach that his biblical heroes' mistakes are recorded in order for his members to learn from them (and not make the same), while condoning his and Herbert's date-setting (false prophesying) by pointing to the "apostle Paul," etc.? How long will he continue to promote the idea (in regards to other false prophets) that "If a man predicts an earthquake for Friday, and it happens even a minute into Saturday, the man is a false prophet"? (paraphrasing, but that's basically what he wrote) -- but come up with excuses as to why that doesn't apply to HWA or himself? How long before he acknowledges that he is no different from Flurry when it comes to title-grabbing, lying, stealing, and just blatant hypocrisy? How long before he acknowledges that the term "servant leadership" is the greatest oxymoron he has ever pronounced, and that it in no shape, form or fashion describes his position? How long before he admits, from the pulpit, behind-the-scenes facts that prove HWA's double standards? (Many will be tempted to argue that those things don't matter -- but if a man's own actions contradict what he thunders from the pulpit, then he himself does not believe the words coming out of his own mouth, so why should anyone else?) How long will Pack get away with preaching, "Prove all things...except the things you can't prove -- just take my word on those"? 

 

How long will Pack (and all those like him) get away with such things? As long as there are enough people willing to close their eyes and believe...

This was written in 2013. Eight years later and Dave is still pulling the same crap and his foolish followers sit there and lap it up as new truth.

Dave Pack: As Elijah I have been given everything that God has

 

Dave Pack Member/Co-worker Letter: Christ could come TONIGHT or at any point up until April 3, 2021

 

On March 5, Davey sent out a member/co-worker letter to his dwindling faithful. It was the typical COG member letter straight out of the official style guide for prophetic letter writing.

The world is falling apart around the Restored Church of God. The nation is divided, politically and culturally and then there were riots at the U.S. Capitol. First amendment freedoms are at risk, which may soon inhibit Dave in saying the crap he does. Newly elected President Joe Biden has been a failure so far. Ebola has returned to West Africa, Muslims are rampaging in Nigeria, COVID-19 is leading to suicides, and Russia hoping it will weaken the United States. Iran is flexing its muscle, and much more mayhem, famine, and death.

In spite of all of this trauma surrounding the Restored Church of God Dave says:

The rapid defection of RCG members out of the Restored Church of God is totally the opposite of what Dave says above. Almost all of his original ministers who helped start RCG have left, including his legal counsel. The longer he keeps setting dates that fail the more members who will leave and take their money with them. He is now unable to spend money on his miniature auditorium and instead tells his few followers that the money now needs to go to the final "push". It is an easy diversion away from the money problems plaguing the RCG right now. 

An even bigger diversion away from HQ problems is the imminent return of the creature Dave is calling "christ". Dave has made so many specific predictions over the last few months that people are starting to laugh at him. The goal post keeps moving around because God was apparently too stupid to deliver to Dave the correct prophecy timeline. 

Now Dave claims, this creature called "christ" is set to appear anytime from tonight till the end of Unleavened Bread, April 3, 2021.

I can state for a FACT that Dave's creature will NOT return TONIGHT or by April 3, 2021, or at any point this entire year. Dave will make more excuses and set more dates. It will be Pentecost next and then the fall Holy Days. The Feast of Tabernacles will come and go and 2022 will be here. The Giant Eagle will still be open, Wadsworth, Ohio, will still be here, and Dave will be holed up in his office waiting for his god to send him the CORRECT prophecy this time.

Dave Pack says ALL who leave his church will be "maimed, and broken, and mutilated and their eyes gouged out."

 From an RCG source:

Anyone who Leaves Armstrongism (or RCG) Will be maimed, beaten, with their eyes gouged out

“But who may abide the day of His coming? Now that's talking about the Father's coming, because the Father's going to cut asunder He's going to cut away. Certain people "blew it in their life." There are a great many people we know alive on earth, I know vast numbers of them who used to believe "God's Way" and blew it off, fell into heresy and they're gone. I've been watching it for 55 years. The last 28, working here and 6 in a group that formed after the Worldwide Church of God began to break up. So I've seen a great many people who would probably still have been alive and who are going to be cut away. They will not abide the day of this coming.”

They shall be beaten with many stripes. They're going to be maimed, and broken, and mutilated and their eyes gouged out. It's still ahead. How do you read that if it's now behind them? So the people who were beating their fellow servants are cut away. They're going to see the "kingdom of God" came, the greatest world government or world dominant government that has ever been seen. They're going to know what they missed out on. They're going to see it all around them for a month.

Dave Pack: My god/Father is coming back before my creature "christ" to kill all who have left the church