Monday, August 18, 2014

King Gerald Flurry: "As Their King" God is Going to Give Me the Stone of Scone to Keep Safe in Petra...and Maybe Prince Charles Too...or Prince Andrew...or Prince George



The lunacy of Gerald Flurry just sinks further into the rabbit hole every day.  Thanks to Redfox712 for pointing out that Gerald Flurry is planning on having the Stone of Scone with him in Petra.  I guess when his god builds the satellite TV stations, installs electricity pants and gets the internet up and running, it will also build a memorial to house the Stone of Scone so that Flurry can preserve it so Jesus can come back to it.  Apparently Flurry still believes the myths of Armstrongism that this stone is necessary for Jesus to come back and stand on to be proclaimed savior of the world.


That throne of David is in Britain today. For millennia, the kings and queens who have been crowned on that throne have done so over Jacob’s pillar stone, also called “the stone of destiny.”

How could that throne be established in the context of Isaiah 16? Only the stone of destiny could firmly establish the throne of David!

Is Isaiah 16 telling us that God will somehow give us that stone when God’s people go to the place of safety? After all, we are going to be sharing that throne with Christ in a matter of just a few years!

The stone of destiny is really the symbol of David’s throne—not the chair that sits in Westminster Abbey. That chair was constructed by men rather recently—but the stone has been around for millennia! It goes all the way back to Jacob! It was at one time called God’s house—where God dwelled! Where will that stone be during the Tribulation? Again, Ephraim is going to lose it, according to Hosea 3:4.

Where will that rock be? Will God give it to the Gentiles? I don’t believe for a minute that He would. He didn’t give it to the Gentiles when Judah was taken captive. Jeremiah was in a prison in Jerusalem—and yet somehow he ended up with the stone, and he eventually took it with him to Ireland!

Wouldn’t God want us to save that marvelous stone of destiny, or to gain possession of it? I can’t see this verse as anything but a strong statement about where that rock will be. 

God says THE throne will be ESTABLISHED—and it’s in the context of a tabernacle, or temporary dwelling. The word “established” comes from the Hebrew word kuwn, which is used 25 times in Scripture to refer to the establishment of a dynasty. In this passage, it must be talking about the Davidic dynasty! God said there would never lack a man to sit on that throne—and here He says the throne will be established in a temporary, Tribulation setting, with God’s loyal people dwelling in a rocky fortress!

We must have faith to believe what the Bible says! This is an exciting prophecy!
Right now, the pieces seem to be falling into place for us to assist in uncovering the very place where David’s throne was, and where Christ will sit on His throne. Do you suppose God might also get us involved with that stone? Does it seem illogical that God would use His people, who have the key of David and are about to sit on the throne of David, to get that stone, which is a symbol of that throne and of Christ? Certainly not to me. The Key of David  pg. 78-79
Is this part of the reason Flurry wants to buy property in England to start what he thinks is a "college?"  If they are land owners in England it is a short jaunt up to Scotland to take possession of the Stone of Scone and haul it off to Petra where they will place it beside HWA's prayer rock that will also be hauled over from Edmond.

Then Flurry goes on to get any crazier in his beliefs about that stone. He claims that there may even be a member of the Royal Family of England with him in Petra.

Who will sit on that throne at the time described in Isaiah 16? I don’t know—but I do know that someone will be on it, and it will be established—and it appears to be there in the Middle East during a terrible time on Earth.

At the time of Jeremiah, he had with him a queen from the royal family to sit on that throne. Maybe there will be a member of the royal family with us in the place of safety.  However, considering Isaiah 16:5 says he will be “seeking judgment, and hasting righteousness,” that doesn’t seem likely.

There is much here we don’t know, but the context seems to imply that the “he” who “shall sit upon” that throne is a man from this Church.

As I point out in Who Is “That Prophet”?, Micah 2:13 refers to the office Christ has given me as that of “their king.” That couldn’t be referring to Christ, because the same verse separately mentions “the Lord.” The word king in that verse means the leader, or one in charge—but the word king is appropriate. 

In Micah 4:8-9, God asks the Laodiceans, “[I]s there no king in thee?” They don’t have a king. (You can also read about these verses in our free booklet Micah—God’s People Rise Up as His Enemy.)

These scriptures are talking about a man who leads a breakaway from a rebellious church! It’s end-time prophecy in your Bible!

Like Herbert Armstrong, Flurry claims he has "kingly blood" running through his veins.  It makes no difference that he blood line originated in a trailer park in 1935 because only a REAL leader in Armstrongism can have his bloodline go back through HWA and David to Jesus.

It did, however, come from Herbert W. Arm strong during his more than 50 years in the ministry. And since Mr. Armstrong died in 1986, God has given me the responsibility of continuing in that same law He established through Mr. Armstrong.

Some of you might remember how surprised Mr. Armstrong was to find that the ancestry on one side of his family could be traced back to King David. I too was shocked to discover this fact concerning my own lineage, also on one side of my family. Is there a reason why Mr. Armstrong and I both can follow our roots back to David’s kingly line—to the tribe of Judah? Does it have anything to do with this “law giver” coming from Judah’s feet—or Judah’s descendants—in the last days, “until Shiloh [Jesus Christ] come”?

Mr. Armstrong had to establish God’s law and government. He was the Elijah who restored all things just before Christ’s return. I have continued the same law and government that he taught. No other church can truthfully make that claim!


Saturday, August 16, 2014

Is Gerald Flurry Preparing His Gullible Followers to Build Satellite TV Stations in Petra?

The two witnesses ready to go forth with the Arab translator.

God's greatest Church of God leader ever (after Dave Pack, of course) is Gerald Flurry.  All knowledge is revealed through Gerald.  His god has personally handed him several books to write and the rest were dictated by him directly from his god's mouth.

Gerald is back today with an article about The Place of Safety, The World Tomorrow in Embryo.

Is Gerald preparing his flock to flee once again?  He did this previously and people sold homes, cars, and businesses to send to the church.  Like Dave Pack's recent epic prophetic failure, Gerald's failed also.  Of course in the 80 some year of Armstrongism every single Church of God leader has been one epic failure after another.  Prophecies have failed over and over through the decades, yet the gullible still give them  money.

Gerald writes:

If you knew God’s people were to be in a place of safety, what would you think they would be doing? God has a great plan wherever He has His people, and He always has a tremendous Work for them to do. This place of safety will not be an exception.

During the Great Tribulation, many people will be hopeless, suffering as never before—and they’re going to need hope. God has a plan to give them this hope, certainly when He begins the Millennium, but also, even during the Tribulation. God has a vision for this world, and the people in the place of safety during the Tribulation will be developing this vision like it has never been developed before on this earth. It will cause the whole world to look and see how to build and beautify this earth—to make it blossom as a rose. This will all begin while God has His people in a place of safety.

Gerald still thinks he and his little group will be the only ones in Petra.  The silly man failed to remember that most other COG's think they will be there too.  Who's going to be over Petra?  Gerald? Thiel? Pack?  Weinland?  The tribulation will be happening inside Petra while they all fight with each other over who is the rightful true leader of the Petraites.

Some COG's have rejected the Petra myth, others like Gerald still embrace it.  Gerald has this to say about Petra:

One thing we know about the place of safety just from reading Revelation is that it’s in the wilderness. Isaiah was written so we could understand this book in these latter days (Isaiah 30:8). Notice this prophecy:

“Let the wilderness of the cities thereof lift up their voice, the villages that Kedar does inhabit let the inhabitants of the rock sing, let them shout from the top of the mountains. Let them give glory unto the Lord, and declare his praise in the islands” (Isaiah 42:11-12). Kedar refers to the Bedouin Arabs. “Rock” in the Hebrew is Sela, meaning a great rocky fortress. Sela translated into Greek is Petra.

Gerald has take the Petra escapades one step further than the rest of the COG's.  Even Dave Pack failed to think of this.  Gerald is going to have electricity, satellite transmissions, and computer technology emanating as a witness to the world from his cave in Petra.  Poor Dave, humiliated once again by another COG leader.  Poor thing!

This passage in Isaiah goes on to talk about the return of Christ. There is a chronology here. God says there is going to be a work going on in this great rocky fortress—this place of safety. His people are in a wilderness where there are Bedouin Arabs. The inhabitants of this rocky fortress are going to give glory to God. This means they know the true God; that’s why they are there. They trusted the true God to take them there, and they are singing and shouting to Him.
While Gerald and lil'Stevie are gallivanting around Jerusalem as the two witless witnesses, a small group of Gerald's minions will be sending out broadcasts from Petra. To do this they will need studios, electricity, recording equipment, Internet access, and much much more.
In this place of safety, this great rocky fortress, God’s people “declare his praise in the islands.” There certainly are no islands in the wilderness areas of the Middle East—especially in the area of Jordan. So there’s some kind of a work going on from the wilderness, something more than just what the two witnesses are doing during the Great Tribulation (Revelation 11:3-12). God has a message and these people are declaring it, probably via satellite and other technological means. A powerful Work will be done somehow.
So who is this great message going to?  England and the rest of Europe, none other that Gerald's lost 12 tribes of Israel.  They will be so in awe of Gerald's fabulous work in Petra that they will know first hand that Gerald is the true one.  Gerald and his minions will be making the desert "bloom like a rose."

Now who will declare His praise in the islands? The Bedouin Arabs? No. God’s Laodicean Church? Of course not. They are spewed out and will go through the Tribulation because of their rebellion toward God and because they were overthrown in the spiritual wilderness as ancient Israel was physically. They had the truth and then they lost it.

God says, “Behold, I will do a new thing; now it shall spring forth; shall ye not know it? I will even make a way in the wilderness, and rivers in the desert. The beast of the field shall honor me, the dragons and the owls: because I give waters in the wilderness, and rivers in the desert, to give drink to my people, my chosen. This people have I formed for myself; they shall show forth my praise” (Isaiah 43:19-20). In context, you’ll see this is during a time of great suffering. God is giving drink to His chosen, and He is making the desert blossom as a rose, even before the Millennium.

With Gerald ready to drop millions of dollars in buying a mansion in England for a new cult college, how is he going to fund TV studios, internet access and electricity INSIDE Petra?  Will he be living in the luxury hotels outside the entrance to Petra?  What kind of lies will he tell the Jordanian authorities to get them to do this? The silliness of this myth gets worse every year.

You can read his entire article here:  The Place of Safety: The World Tomorrow In Embryo!


David C Pack Tells Disabled Member to "Un-disable" Himself So He Can Work And Give More Money



Silenced has a great post up today about the epic failure that is David C Pack.  Dave's number one concern is the amount of money that comes into his coffers. It makes no difference who you are in the Restored Church of God.  You are considered a money machine and expected to keep the elite in Wadsworth in their expected pinnacles of luxury.

Salvation in the Restored Church of God is dependent on how much money you give.


I’ve had the same experience and when questioned about it I was put out of the RCG. Of course, I was planning to leave anyway as it’s clear the RCG is a cult, and of the worst kind!

I remember in a sermon and a Bible study where Mr. Pack said that if “your retired… you have to un-retire yourself, and if your disabled, you have to un-disabled yourself’, or you won’t get salvation. Basically, because if you didn’t give more money to the RCG it was simply because you were just being ‘selfish’, etc.

Ron Weinland: My Next Post To You Depends On Whether You Pray Enough For Me To Write It




The narcissistic mentality of Ronnie Wienland comes through in the following quote from his latest letter to his members.  He feels his messages are the most earth shattering thing of importance that has ever been.  His message is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO important that if his members do not pray enough over the next couple of weeks he may not write it out for them.  Even the words he will write are dependent upon the earnest prayers from his dwindling membership.  The bigger and better the prayers the better the message.

The fact that any of his members sit there and put up with this nonsense is beyond reason.  It has always been the members fault for everything in Armstrongism.  Look at the hundreds and hundreds of letters and articles that Herbert Armstrong penned threatening the membership with their salvation because of one reason or another.  Every crisis in the COG was the members fault, not the asshat ministry and leaders fault.

The next post for me, personally, is another exciting one to be (possibly) written, as it is to be direct, candid, corrective in nature, highly revealing for use as a powerful mirror, and for the deeper, far greater change and final refining transformation it can potentially produce. However, whether or not it is written, and to the depth and magnitude its impact can potentially have upon us, is dependent upon each of you in the Church. God is clearly showing me that whether or not it is even written, as well as its very content and depth of strength and revelation that it can potentially contain, is fully dependent upon each person’s petitions (prayers) that reveal such desire to receive what God can give to us. So my parting admonition and encouragement to you is that you pray for this next post in a zealous, fervent, and highly desirous manner.

Imprisoned Felon Ron Weinland Loses 25 Ministers and Makes New Endtime Prediction



Sitting in a Federal prison has given Ron Weinland lots of time to rethink his strategies and message.  Weeks go by now while he struggles to come up with something relevant.    With two weeks of deep mediation behind him, he has come out that his god has been cleaning house in preparation for the end of the age to start in December 2015

Ronnie feels that his god has been cleansing the outhouse temple, which has been happening with the recent resignations of 25 ministers.  This also includes countless members who have left, including his own mother and sister.  Ronnie feels this "measuring" by his god cleaning his temple (Weinland's cult) to be God's mouthpiece when the end times hits, which he declares to be December 2015.
The Church now has only 16 months remaining in the prophetic 42-month period for measuring the temple. As stated in the last post, this measuring process first involves a primary focus that is upon the ministry, which includes those who are to be cast out and “not measured at all.” Thus far in this period, there are now 25 ministers who have been cast out of the court and given over to the gentiles.

God has primarily worked to remove those who are in the ministry, who have not been serving Him in spirit and in truth.
Ronnie claims that more ministers have left than member so far, which is a total fabrication of facts.  Now that these ministers have been removed his impotent god is ready to clean house with the members of Ronnie's cult.

In the time remaining within this prophetic period, God will continue working within the entire Church, which still includes the ministry, to bring to light those who choose to refuse to fully worship Him in spirit and in truth. Although this process has been working first and foremost within the ministry during the first two years of this period, God has begun to more fully manifest others who have been lingering in the area of the court, or becoming lukewarm in the temple, who are to be removed and/or chastened for doing so. Yet it needs to be mentioned again that the equivalent percentage this is happening to, within the overall church, compared to what has been revealed within the ministry is far, far less, and even when some are exposed, God is granting them to receive more mercy and grace through being chastened and thereby giving them the opportunity to repent, rather than being removed from the temple. If chastening does not bring swift repentance and change, then they too will be removed from the temple and cast beyond the court and directly to the gentiles. 

Things are moving so swiftly in Ronnie's cult that he has to get his wife ready to fulfill her roll as the second witless witness of the two Wienland Witless Witnesses. Once his cult has been cleansed of the evil ones then God will smile favorably on them and they will loose no one else.

Before a final “great work” is to begin, that work being accomplished during the final 1260 days, the Church is first (now) to receive a final cleansing as well as a final refining. This refining is a process for being prepared and fitted for each person’s participation in that work. There truly is good news in the midst of all this, as once the measuring of the temple is complete, from that point forward, very few will be lost during the rest of the way to Christ’s coming – and potentially none at all!
Indeed, God’s purpose for measuring the temple is so that His Church functions in stronger unity and purpose to support and uphold the truths He has given it, especially in the fulfillment of events that must come to pass before His Son is established as King. We are to live, reflect, and speak this word (logos from God) in harmony in God’s purpose and the work He will do through His two witnesses. 

Ronnie can't understand the fact that ministers and members have left because of his false teachings, attitude and felonious activities.  Its their fault not his, so it has to be his god that is cleaning house.

With any luck they will have all left by the time Ronnie leaves prison.