Monday, August 29, 2022

Dave Pack is floating through the prophetic cosmos untethered


Lost in Space (Part 1)

 

We are watching the deterioration of David C. Pack.

 

He is floating through the prophetic cosmos untethered and unable to change his trajectory.

 

The current trend is fascinating. The epileptic fits of prophecy date-setting since April of this year, his “secretive” silence for 12 days, the “I’m sorry I got caught” apology that feels like there was some internal pressure by either the “ministers” or his wife or all of the above,  and now the content of this message that needs to be broken into parts.

 

All things are leading me to believe that David C. Pack is cracking. The fractures are getting bigger and easier to spot. How long until it all crumbles is the big question.

 

The members of The Restored Church of God must be spending their Sunday in deep contemplation about whether to continue attending after hearing “The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 390)” which ruined another Sabbath on August 27, 2022.

 

His superior reading comprehension deficit was hammered pretty hard in the last article, but there is another angle to the phenomenon.

 

Not only can he not understand what he reads, but he also cannot understand what he hears from others. Processing spoken words are an insurmountable task. It is no wonder his classmates despised playing The Telephone Game with him in elementary school.

 

 

Personal Story: 2019 RCG Summer Picnic

 

An afternoon thunderstorm rolled through causing many to huddle in the Pavilion on the Campus. I happened to be at the Media Center after just putting away the MPS camera gear. Being Ohio, most of the sky was black and thick with rain, but there was also bright sunlight coming through. It was raining, but it was also sunny.

 

I looked over to the lake next to the Media Center and saw a rainbow. For anyone who understands how rainbows are created, you have to be at a certain angle in relation to the sun to see the prism effect in the water vapor.

 

I returned to the Pavilion where there was some stirring. Six rainbows were spotted around the Campus and some of the photographers were able to capture the moment. Dave was making a big deal of rainbows at the time. Folks remember when eagles, almond trees, and storks were in the spotlight, so I did not give it much credence.

 

I went to him and said, “Mr. Pack, I was at the Media Center and saw a rainbow over the lake.” His eyes widened. He immediately shouted to get everyone’s attention as I stood next to him.

 

“Everyone! Marc Cebrian says he just saw a rainbow stretch from the lake all the way to the Media Center. That makes seven which is God’s number of completion. The Father just visited the Campus.”

 

In that surreal moment, I thought, “That is so not what I just said.” I had to correct those who came up to me afterward and explain that I saw it at the lake from the Media Center, not stretching to the Media Center.

 

While standing next to Dave with everyone looking at us, I realized, “He interprets what he hears to mean what he wants it to.” It was a learning moment that crystallized a way to perceive how Dave taught the Bible.

 

Once I saw what he was doing with the Scriptures, I could not un-see it. You will not be able to un-see it, either.

 

And here we are three years later.

 

 

Dave revisited Luke 1 to keep reminding people of how perceptive he is.

 

@ 00:40 …and it confirms that life begins in the womb. In a most-powerful way. Maybe the most powerful way you could possibly think of.

 

I wonder if the sheer excitement of sharing such an end-time revelation kept Dave up all night. Those in the front row were so grateful they got out of bed this morning. Life begins at conception. We get it.

 

Dave read Luke 1:15 again, completely fixed on the conception and birth of John the Baptist.

 

@ 1:15 Ready? “And he shall be filled with the Holy Spirit even from his mother’s womb.” Have you ever noticed that?

 

What is going on with him? Dr. Ranney needs to do another wellness check.

 

There are children in the audience who knew that. That was not some cryptic scripture God kept oblique to hide His purpose. If this is how he “wows” the audience as his opener, it is not a good sign for the rest of the message.

 

I am no Bible scholar, but even I remembered this:

 

Samson was a Nazarite from the womb - Judges 13:5

Jeremiah was ordained a prophet in the womb - Jeremiah 1:3

 

Is he pulling our leg? How do the enablers keep a straight face through all of this?

 

@ 3:55 Now, I wanna make a little correction. I conflated two things. Mr. Tkach…died exactly 40 weeks to the day after he gave a sermon on the Sabbath. And died, therefore, 40 weeks later on a Sabbath.

@ 4:18 Two days before Trumpets. He died on Elul 28.

 

If you are interested in hearing Dave strain at accepting that he got his facts wrong regarding Joseph W. Tkach while doing a sleight of hand with the church, take a listen.



Part 390 – Tkach Clarification

@ 4:26 But I wanted just to correct it. I got that confused with Mr. Armstrong’s final sermon. So, I was absolutely right, it was exactly 40 weeks to the day from when he threw out the law, Sabbath, tithing, unclean meat was okay, and the Holy Days. He did die 40 weeks to the day but he died on the Sabbath and Trumpets was Monday, two days later. So a small clarification.


That correction was not little. That correction was not small. It changed everything about the story. But this is how a calculated David C. Pack wanted to present it.

 

He was hoping that everyone forgot that his entire point from Part 388 was factually inaccurate. Joseph W. Tkach did not die on Trumpets in 1995 as Dave needed him to.

 

He cannot help but show how he was right about something he was wrong. That is another pillar of understanding that drives him.

 

Moving the story even one day still makes it false. He had to move it two. The way he tries to keep his point valid is remarkable. The story was fraudulent, but in his mind, he was "absolutely right" about something.

 

Surely that humble admission to the members of RCG is of great comfort to the Tkach family.

 

This point of “clarification” comes via Joseph Tkach, Jr. regarding David C. Pack’s Part 388 comments.

 

Your recent posts point out David Pack’s contradictions. It seems that he makes things up as he goes along and cannot keep track of his own schema. I listened to the audio clip of his ridiculous comments about my dad’s death. The only fact he correctly stated was that my dad died.

 

My dad did not die screaming in pain holding onto an Orthodox crucifix. Our entire extended family was gathered around him in the hospital and he died quite peacefully. None of my family or my dad's grandchildren were ever prevented from seeing him. And he did not die on the Day of Trumpets of that year. Rather he died on September 23rd, 1995.

 

 

Now that you saw how Dave chose to explain the mistake as well as a family member’s personal account, listen to a short version of his comments from Part 388 and decide if he has a hold on reality.

 


Part 388 – Tkach Died on Trumpets

David C. Pack tells you everything you need to hear to make a judgment call if he is true or not.

 

Av 30 and Elul 1 passed this weekend without incident as a certain non-prophet/non-psychic said. I cried laughing when I heard Dave say this next bit.

 

@ 5:22 And the fact that we’re still here, in a way you will see, proves that I was right and God showed me something very powerful yesterday morning before we end with the two most potentially the two most exciting mysteries of the entire series, so we will close the series and close the last part of the series with that.

 

Dave cannot help but show how he was right about something he was wrong. That is twice in just the first five minutes. That is denial on a biblical scale. He is never “really wrong” and that should be of concern to those in RCG.

 

Why does God always show Dave “something” when it is too late?

 

@ 08:58 Now, if I’m God’s servant and He’s leading me, then He shows me one thing at a time, and in these recent days and I kinda rush and call it out. And sometimes there’s too much to rush through.

 

Dave, just stop rushing. You misunderstand the verse. That is not about you. Read my magnum opus from Thursday where I explained the how and why.

 

@ 09:09 But would He let our enemies know? But let's phrase it this way. Would He let His enemies know? Who are monitoring what we're learning. Would He do that? These are big problems.

 

For the sake of argument, I will temporarily suppose David C. Pack is referring to me as an enemy of God and thus, the enemy of Dave. (He is not my enemy but that is not relevant at the moment.)

 

This brings up the fact that I can write these articles and have a website at all. God is allowing all of it.

 

God is allowing “the leaker(s)” to publish everything coming out of RCG. God is allowing me to document the words of David C. Pack going back years in a precise, organized fashion so that those words can be pulled up in a moment to expose his biblical fraud.

 

If God wanted the leaker(s) to be stopped, they would be stopped. If God wanted me to be stopped, He would stop me. If I actually thought God did not want this of me, I would certainly choose to obey Him. Since He has thus far been “quiet” on that front, I will take His silence as permission by omission.

 

If God did not want “His” information to leave the walls of RCG, that would be done.

 

There is a purpose God is allowing David C. Pack to twist in the wind, now joined by his enablers who used to operate under the cover of anonymity. I cannot say I KNOW He wants me to do this just as I cannot say I KNOW He does not want me to do this.

 

Until I know for sure, my natural course is to continue. Just as Dave is following his natural course. The problem is…only one of us has a documented pattern of lies in our history.

 

You decide who is more credible with what is written and spoken. The antichrist serpent enemy of God? Or God’s apostle and sometimes Elijah?

 

Let God’s will be done in this matter. Amen.

 

 

@ 15:42 So, go let’s back and look at some of these month verses very briefly and I’ll show you some things that I came up with.

 

An accidental moment of truth prepping us for when he changes the meaning of the word “month.”

 

@ 16:03 We are overreading in some way that we could be more careful, as I say, exceedingly careful. We’re overreading the month verses. So, I’m gonna go back and I’m gonna rip those apart and see if any one of them says it’s a full month.

 

There is that unhelpful “we” making an appearance again.

 

The same “we” who keeps making mistakes all the time. The same “we” who has repetitively botched the series. The same “we” son of a bitch that makes Dave look like a fool every time a date is set and fails. 

Dave, I am telling you (as your not-enemy) that “we” is being a jerk again and you need to break things off before it continues much further. When Trumpets comes and goes without incident, you will blame “we” just as you always do.

 

One big reveal is that Dave says a “month” does not mean a full month. Yeah. Nothing happened starting at the 30-day point before Trumpets, so do not even worry about it.

 

It is a good thing he figured that out after he had to. It was all about a full month until a full month was no longer possible. Now it is about a not-a-full month. What a coinkydink!

 

I think Dave missed his calling. Instead of pursuing a career as a false apostle and false prophet, he should have gone into designing Escape Rooms. He can figure out every clue necessary for escaping from a prophetic failure.

 

The Bible has 783,137 words and using his superpower of reading comprehension deficit, he changes the words on the page so they achieve his goal, which is to escape from facing reality.

 

David C. Pack is a biblical fraud. David C. Pack is a prophetic fraud. David C. Pack has the most astonishing piss-poor reading comprehension skills of any human being I have ever heard. Once you understand, it becomes easy peasy to see how he "rips apart" Bible passages to make them say what he needs to when he needs it to. The Lego mess is rebuilt with the same pieces to make a different monstrosity.

 

Dave discovers in Hosea 5:7 that the word “month” in a few verses actually means “a new moon” which means it is not a full month. The word does mean “new moon” per the Jewish Publication Society, but Dave takes it a step further. Naturally. I would love to do a fact-check with them on this one.

 

@ 18:04 Now, they’re saying this is not a whole month at all. It’s not saying anything about a month at all. It’s strictly saying it’s a new moon.

 

In what corner of the Marvel Multiverse is any of this statement true? That is not the case in our current reality. Only in a Stanley Kubrick burst of light montage could this be considered possibly true.

 

People of The Restored Church of God: David C. Pack is conning you.

 

He is twisting the Hebrew to mean what he needs it to mean. If you study what he is about to present, it creates an avalanche of problems for everything you read in the Old Testament when you find the word “month.” He breaks the meaning and walks away. No Pottery Barn rules in Wadsworth.

 

Dave tries to distort our old friend (H2320) “chodesh” which is in the Old Testament 279 times. Month 254 times. New moon 20 times. Every person in RCG who has ever studied their Bible should know that word by heart.

 

And yet, this is another moonwalk in outer space by Dave to reverse engineer a Hebrew word to fit his current theology. Do not fall for it.

 

Note that he never told his audience the Hebrew word was chodesh. He did that on purpose because he knows that he has covered that word to death. Everyone inside RCG would know what you mean if you said “chodesh.”

 

His calculated, manipulative move was to keep all the facts from the brethren because if he declared "chodesh does not mean a month, it only means new moon” there would be cartoon exclamation points popping up over every head.

 

@ 18:13 And I immediately realized, “Oh wow.” Verse 8 describes a trumpet and coronet blowing. Verse 9 describes the day of rebuke. Verse 10 describes God's wraith. It says it's Trumpets. Oh my!

 

Dave almost said OMG. This is not the first time. Those verses say Trumpets because he needs them to.

 

According to the Nine Planets website, “A New Moon, in astronomy, marks the beginning of the first lunar phase.” NASA concurred with this.

 

The Coffee Kid and Pepper Boy must not have had the heart to inform Dave that a new moon occurs 12 times a year. Not only on Trumpets.

 

All of Dave's points on this topic suffer from the same fatal flaw. It does not say "month" in the verse, but "new moon" which he interprets as the Feast of Trumpets without being able to prove it.

 

He does the same technique over and over again which is why any teaching in the prophecy series is temporary. It does not have tangible truth as a foundation.

 

Month = New Moon = Trumpets = Dave is right yet again. Take that, you enemies of God!

 

He even piles this concept on in Matthew 24:22.

 

@ 36:40 So if you cut short the days, you shorten, you dock off the days, you had to have some baseline and that baseline has to be “the month.” If it’s something else, what is it? Where is it?

 

This is another one of those David C. Pack logic proofs that prove nothing. He has used this way of thinking to create prophetic doctrine inside The Restored Church of God before. What else could it be?

 

Maybe if they allowed voting in RCG, the folks in the audience could raise their hands and suggest ideas. There was a long pause and silence at that moment. Maybe he was waiting for an answer. David C. Pack loves when lay members give him ideas on how to interpret the scriptures.

 

It was at this point in the message that he finally moved on to other topics.

 

Due to the nature of the remaining content, Part 2 will cover more.


Marc Cebrian


See: Lost in Space (Part 1)

Sunday, August 28, 2022

Rod Meredith's Youngest Son Dies



Rod Meredith's youngest son (from his second marriage) David, 

died yesterday at the age of 43 of a heart attack.

Saturday, August 27, 2022

King Gerald Tells Students To Be Ready To "Fight To The Death"



The Philadelphia Church of God, under the mighty hand of King Gerald, continues down the path of doing everything they can to talk about anyone but Jesus.

PCG and Flurry have been waxing eloquently about Queen Elizabeth, Winston Churchill, and other notable people from history over the past couple of years. Lil'Stevie is holding book groups to discuss these people. They are currently focused upon Abraham Lincoln as a sign of spiritual virtue. Jesus be damned. He is not worthy to be mentioned much in the PCG other than that he is ANGRY and keeps delaying his return. Petra forbid, if PCG ever openly discussed the dude.

King Gerald recently told his students that they need to be ready to fight to the death and must have a grand strategy. One of the reasons Flurry reads these books is to inspire his students and members to be people of passion and who will sitck to the task at hand, as many of his famous notables have/had.

Couple this drive and zeal along with King Gerlad's biblical interpretations and you have a nightmare in the making.

COG youth at the various church "colleges" and "educational" facilities have been subjected from the early days of present church history with one absurd tale after another as a result of false prophetic understanding. These crazy premonitions and blatant lies have been mentally and spiritually damaging to those young people, but the COGs do not care.

August 22, 2022

GF continues to talk strange, but really it is foolish, which is nothing new for him. The August 19 Friday Philadelphian, says that at the HWAC orientation, GF gave a lecture about “lessons from Abraham Lincoln” (this was to add to his presumptuous sermon he gave in May about Abraham Lincoln. To read about that sermon scroll up to the May 22 letter on this page: “GF’s Presumptions About Abraham Lincoln.”) At the orientation he told the students “they must be willing to fight to the death and must have a grand strategy.” [all bolding mine] Now why on earth would students be told to “fight to the death”? That kind of talk is more likely what the adult members would be told as they are often instructed to stick it out in PCG, or else they will die spiritually. An emphasis was placed on “going on the offensive in spiritual warfare.” This college is certainly not Christ-centered, but it is undeniably fear-centered. –FL Exit and Support Network

 

Astounding LCG Growth In Canada! The WORK Marches Onward and Upward!!!!!

JC always has to get in the way of LCG


It is interesting to watch as various Churches of God march forth proclaiming their law-gospel to the world. The Living Church of God does an outstanding job of this. It is such an effective ministry that it now has 878 people attending church, out of a population of over 38 million throughout Canada. In their usual slick way, LCG plays with numbers as they claim 50% of their recent baptisms had no Worldwide Church of God affiliation.

50% increase from what number? 5? 10? 30? 50? 

Mr. Stuart Wachowicz led a conference for ministers and their wives in Canada this past Monday and Tuesday. This was the first time they were able to meet in person since the beginning of lockdowns. Forty were present in person at the new Living Church of God offices in London, Ontario, and another nine participated online, including Dr. Winnail and me, due to cross-border travel restrictions. Average attendance in Canada now stands at 878. That is up from 352 in 2001; and 50 percent of those baptized since 2005 have come to the Church with no Worldwide affiliation. This demonstrates that the Work of the Church to preach the Gospel to all the world continues.—Gerald Weston

Weston brags about the 40 people who showed up in New London, Ontario, out of a population of 515,000 people. Of that 40 number, at least 30 or more were LCG members. 

Nevertheless, the law-gospel must go forth in power! But, Jesus always seems to get in the way of LCG's law message to the world or is missing. Perhaps that's the reason no one is really interested in LCG's message. 

As an aside to the astounding church growth in Canada, the United States is leaping forward in amazing ways through the presentations that LCG leaders do in various cities.

Their latest mind-boggling impact this past week, out of a population of over 3,608,455 people, was 98 "guests" with at least 3/4 or more of that amount being LCG members padding the hall, who showed up for these presentations.

St. Louis, Missouri metro population 2,807,338
Cookeville, Tennessee 33,922
Blue Ridge, Georgia. 1,245
Springfield; Illinois 205,950 

and even a presentation in the Israelitish nation of Australia  

Newcastle, New South Wales, Australia. 560,000

Truly, this is the most awesome COG since the improperly named "continuing" Church of "god" was dreamed into being! The Work marches forth in power and majesty! 

Friday, August 26, 2022

Doug Winnail Claims The World Lacks Vision…What About LCG's Lack of Vision?


 

It is pretty hard to listen to a Church of God claim the world lacks vision when the entire COG lacks vision as it flounders around doing nothing except birth one crazy self-appointed prophet after another.

Decades and decades ago the church had a vision that was propped up by Herbert Armstrong's dynamic voice and vision. Then the epic prophetic failure of 1975 disrupted the church and downhill it went after that point, The vision was gone. Oh, yes, the church thought new buildings and exotic campuses portrayed a vision of a world to come, but the vision for church members started dying in 1975. The final nail was driven in that coffin when in 1986 when Herbert Armstrong died. Today in 2022, matter how hard any of them claim they are trying, they have no vision anymore and thus rejoice when one or two new people enter the fold. 


The Importance of Vision: In Proverbs 29:18 we read, “Where there is no vision, the people perish” (KJV) or “Where there is no revelation, the people cast off restraint; but happy is he who keeps the law” (NKJV). Vision is the capacity to see the real future. That future is found in the Bible—the revelation of God. The biblical vision is the Gospel, the good news of the coming Kingdom of God (Mark 1:14) and the ultimate purpose of human existence—gaining eternal life and reigning with Jesus Christ in the Kingdom (Matthew 19:28–29) to bring peace, justice, and prosperity to the peoples of the world (Isaiah 9:6–7). Today, that exciting vision of the future has been lost or forgotten or never heard by most people on earth. As a result, many have no sense of purpose other than “doing their own thing” (Judges 21:25). The Sabbath is a good time to thank God for revealing to His people this exciting vision of the future and of His way of life that is a mystery to the world today (Matthew 13:10–17; Mark 4:11).
Have a profitable Sabbath, Douglas S. Winnail