(Updated 3/29/12) More UnChristian Behavior from Philadelphia Church of God

A former PCG member posted a comment on the following post dated January 7, 20120:

Gerald Flurry Declares Fast Because of Exodus of Members

Anonymous said...

The REAL PURPOSE of the fast was to make the PCG members feel GUILTY about not honoring their pledges, (that Gerald Flurry MADE them pledge in the first place),they made to the Auditorium building fund. THIS was the TRUE reason for the fast. I know this because I was IN the PCG. I was recently DISFELLOWSHIPPED by BRIAN DAVIS, for trying to defend myself after he and his brother-in-law, (Andrew Hessong), called me up trying to make me feel guilty and ACCUSING ME of ACCUSING PEOPLE! The REAL REASON FOR THE DISFELLOWSHIP: I am a single mom struggling to raise my son by myself, AND CAN'T HELP SUPPORT THE MINISTERS,THEIR WIVES, AND THEIR CHILDREN, AND EVERYONE ELSE AT "HEADQUARTERS". Brian Davis told me to LEAVE my husband in 2004. I did. This caused all kinds of problems for me and the PCG. The PCG ended up having to hire TWO ATTORNEYS for the church and myself. Then more recently I was told by Brian Davis' brother-in-law,(Andrew Hessong), to contact the Office of Attorney General to take my EX to court. My Ex was already paying me me child support on his own. When I took these ministers advice, he stopped giving me support.So between all this BAD ADVICE FROM PCG MINISTERS, I also get THROWN OUT OF THE PCG. IT'S ALL ABOUT MONEY. THAT'S THE TRUTH!! THE END!!! March 24, 2012 9:26 PM

Update:

P.S.- This comment goes along with the last one I left-(me and my 13 year old son getting disfellowshipped by Brian Davis with his accomplice brother-in-law Andrew Hessong of the Philadelphia Church of God): I forgot to mention that Brian Davis tried to SECRETLY DISFELLOWSHIP ME in February 2006. He and a Mr. Reese Brown called me up, (SURPRISE ATTACK), after I OBEYED MR. BRIAN DAVIS, and had left my husband. I was in Washington State at this time. The conversation went like this: "Hello B...this is Brian Davis. I've got Mr. Reese Brown on the line also. ...Did you tell Mr. Brown you did NOT try to get an attorney before you left your husband?" Then I replied: "I told Mr. Reese Brown that I DID try to get an attorney before I left my husband, but the attorney told me that I COULD NOT FILE until we had settled our bankruptcy"...(later I found out she was only telling a half truth)...Then Brian Davis told me, "Well, B...I've prayed about this, and I've come to the conclusion, YOUR LYING, AND YOUR DISFELLOWSHIPPED, AND DON"T TELL ANYONE WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION!"

Very soon after this conversation, I got a call from the church's attorney, and he told me..."No, B...your not disfellowshipped. Mr. Flurry and others were sitting at the table about to disfellowship you, when Mr. Brown confessed to his part in this".

BUT Brian Davis HAS NEVER CONFESSED! He later told me, "B...I was just trying to get you MENTALLY PREPARED". He has been trying to find ways to get rid of me ever since,(THE BIG COVER-UP) because the church had to hire an attorney to defend the church's doctrines, so I was included. They paid for my divorce. Brian Davis really secretly hates me for this. My divorce went terrible. I now can pretty much assume it was because BRIAN DAVIS was slandering me to the attorney. I always wondered why the attorney RARELY would come to the phone or call me back when I had a question. Brian Davis had made other attempts to discourage me, hoping I would disappear and quit the church, BECAUSE OF THE MESS HE CAUSED. He loves to PROVOKE. This way he can tell everyone, "She talked bad to me". That's one of his favorite sayings. He ACCUSES others of what he does. Well, he finally achieved his goal on February 22, 2012... I'M OUT!...I never found that "open door".March 26, 2012 8:43 AM


Update  (3/27/12)

AND ANOTHER THING...About that "open door" policy? I've already written to Mr. Gerald Flurry. I didn't get a response. I kept hearing "horror stories" about other women getting disfellowshipped and still after YEARS, not being able to "GET BACK IN".

Now I ask you...IS THAT BIBLICAL? According to "THE CHURCH". Christ calls you into the Church...Where in the Bible does Christ say his ministers are suppose to use, abuse, slander, humiliate, intimidate,twist scripture, THROW OUT, all those innocent little "babes" in Christ, and REFUSE to have anything to do with them again?
Christ says in Luke 17:2...It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he be cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.

Did I forget to mention...Brian Davis also SUSPENDED me while I was going through my divorce. I innocently sent him an e mail I had sent to my attorney. You see, the church was ready to stop paying the attorney/attorneys, after they cleared themselves,so everyone, (the attorney, Brian Davis, my local minister), were pressuring me to agree to pay my ex, child support, for my son, so the church could "wrap up this whole frivolous mess" My local minister told me several times..."B...The church isn't paying for your divorce anymore!"...B...The church isn't paying for your divorce anymore!" The funny thing is...I DIDN'T CAUSE THIS MESS AND I CERTAINLY DIDN'T ASK FOR THE CHURCH TO PAY FOR MY DIVORCE!!BRIAN DAVIS CAUSED ME AND MY KIDS TO GO THROUGH HELL!!...And that's what it was...My daughter ended up in Rusk State Hospital...suffering from post stress disorder...after what her "so called father" did to her...(which no one still wants to believe)...On one of my long journeys to visit her, while I was driving down the highway, low and behold, guess who called me? None other than BRIAN DAVIS. My mother was in the car with me, and since I was AFRAID OF WHAT BRIAN DAVIS WAS ABOUT TO SAY, and did not want my mother to hear the conversation, (as I was STILL trying to protect the church's reputation), I pulled my car over and got out,...(my hair blowing all over the place in my mouth, etc.)...This "so called" minister of God, could care less what I was going through...(and he dared not even ask)...All I remember about that UNEXPECTED CALL FROM BRIAN DAVIS, were these words..."B...You've made A LOT of mistakes in your life!"...What a "CHEERY" thing to say to me. I wanted to STRANGLE HIM by that time. That's a normal response, considering the circumstances. But I thought that he was "GOD'S MINISTER", and somehow MAYBE he was right... WRONG!!!...He was actually talking about HIMSELF...and still didn't know it. I've learned, people usually ACCUSE people of doing what THEY are guilty of. The purpose of the call was to DISCOURAGE ME and maybe I would GIVE UP and LEAVE THE CHURCH, so they wouldn't have to continue paying for my divorce and Brian Davis could say..."See...told you...she wasn't converted after all!"...BRIAN DAVIS' BIG COVER UP PLAN!!    March 27, 2012 9:04 AM        


Update March 27, 2012 9:06 AM

Back to the e mail I sent to "MR. BRIAN DAVIS"... Because my divorce was going so terrible and everyone was pressuring me to "just agree" to pay my ex child support to wrap things up...I sent this e mail to my attorney which basically said...No, I'm not listening to anyone...I'm THINKING FOR MYSELF THIS TIME, (using my critical thinking skills)...I am NOT going to sign the divorce papers and agree to pay my ex husband child support. After all...I left him because he was living and working in California, and he was running around with other women, and actually had a woman living with him...THIS IS WHY I TOOK MY SON AND LEFT IN THE FIRST PLACE!
I forwarded this e mail to Brian Davis ASSUMING he would be on my side...OH, NO,.. ANOTHER "MISTAKE IN MY LIFE"...Brian Davis took that one line..."I'm not listening to anyone"...and suspended me. I was told to read "God's Family Government", and an "anger management" paper, and fast and pray, etc. and call him back. It took months for him to accept that MY attitude was right, and FINALLY let me come back "in the church". He also told me to call my attorney and apologize TO HIM! I was so stupid,...I Did...I wonder what other "HOOPS" Brian Davis could have gotten me to jump through? The day I was FORMALLY ACCEPTED back into "the church", I could tell by my local minister's response...I don't believe he wanted me to come back...He walked off as Brian Davis was reluctantly welcoming me back. Could that ministers actions have been caused by BRIAN DAVIS SLANDERING ME!! Of course...I know this because after the local minister walked away...Brian Davis said to me, (while glancing back and forth between looking at his cell phone and the local minister)..."B...Mr. so and so is a fine minister...BUT...from now own, if you have something to talk about, don't talk to him...call me" WHAT'S UP WITH THAT I ASKED...Even though I put it all together later and figured it out. Now If I would have followed Brian Davis' ORDERS, and never again talked to my local minister and just called up Brian Davis...THAT probably would have turned into a MAJOR FIASCO TOO!!...It's all crazy... March 27, 2012 9:06 AM

Update March 28

STILL ABOUT BRIAN DAVIS...Let me clarify some things. The reason I'M remaining anonymous is because I'm trying to expose Brian Davis. Brian Davis knows who I am. That's all that matters. Brian Davis would consider this as being a coward. NO, HE'S THE COWARD PICKING ON WOMEN IN THE CHURCH AND THROWING THEM OUT!! HE DISFELLOWSHIPPED ME THIS TIME BECAUSE I WOULDN'T OBEY HIM AND SHUT-UP WHEN I WAS JUST TRYING TO DEFEND MYSELF AND EXPOSE HIM TO THE OTHERS ON THE PHONE LINE AND OTHERS SECRETLY LISTENING TO THE PHONE CONVERSATION AT "HEADQUARTERS" THE LAST TIME HE DISFELLOWSHIPPED ME, (FEBRUARY 2010)...And besides that...I don't know if THIS DISFELLOWSHIP IS LEGITIMATE OR NOT...Because as I wrote earlier...Brian Davis tried to SECRETLY DISFELLOWSHIP ME February 2006, after he had told me to leave my husband...but later DENIED ALL BLAME, saying, "B...I was just trying to get you MENTALLY PREPARED". He told me in our last phone conversation from "Headquarters", that..."B...you were confused and not in your right mind"...(oh, so I'm just a LUNATIC, (as I believe that's the way this SOCIOPATH thinks about all women)...So...He's telling me I didn't hear him say what I thought I heard him say??...What a LIAR! telling me,..."And don't tell anyone we had this conversation!"...yea, right!...THAT'S THE FIRST THING I TOLD THE CHURCH'S ATTORNEY WHEN HE HAD TO CALL ME BACK AND HIRE ATTORNEY'S FOR THE PCG AND ME!...NEXT SUBJECT...March 28, 2012, 7:46 AM

Update 3/28

 

ABOUT MY CHILD SUPPORT ANDREW HESSONG, (BRIAN DAVIS'S BROTHER-IN-LAW), WANTED ME TO "GET RIGHT" WITH THE COURTS...Andrew Hessong and our local church minister came to my apartment(at my request) in 2010. This was after Andrew Hessong was made regional director in place of Brian Davis, as Brian Davis was moved up north to a more expanded area, I suppose. So...during this very pleasant visit with these two, (and after I had voiced my concerns about my ex husband visiting my son and making very bizarre statements),Andrew Hessong suggested I try to get an attorney, pro bono, and contact OAG and get the child support orders changed, in my favor, (as because I was PRESSURED to sign and agree to pay my ex child support as I previously explained in another long PCG complaint on this site, but Andrew Hessong didn't know about any of this),and he, Andrew Hessong) told me he was going to TRY to get me third tithe assistance,(of course it would have to be cleared by Brian Davis first), so as I would not even have to deal with my ex anymore if the church was helping me out. At this time my ex was voluntarily giving me about $600.00 a month for my one son. Well, as soon as my ex got a letter from OAG, he quit giving me ANY money to support his son. ALSO, Andrew Hessong NEVER GOT BACK WITH ME AND NEVER SAID ANOTHER WORD ABOUT THE THIRD TITHE ASSISTANCE, Even though he was at our congregation many times and I had several brief conversations with him when he was there. I thought if he wasn't saying anything, it must be bad news....  March 28, 2012 9:21 AM

Update 3/28

FAST FORWARD TO NOVEMBER 2011. Well, by this time me and my son had moved to a mobile home on 6 1/2 acres, about an hour and fifteen minutes from services, which my uncle had left to my mother, but my mother already had her own home. I didn't have to pay any rent. About November 2011, after I had not had my car since the motor had burned...not my fault... But because I was blaming the burned up motor on the mechanics that worked on the car last...this gave Brian Davis an "IN" to find more reasons to INSULT MY INTELLIGENCE!", as I'll explain...So anyway, as I said, my ex quit paying his support for his son, and it was as you know, it's not easy to find a job when your, "IN THE CHURCH". You can't work on the Sabbath, (might as well say Saturday, which all but government jobs require). And since the bad economy, employers have many more people to chose from. If you tell them you can't work this day or that day..they throw you in the trash and find someone who can. THEN...if you have to get your son to school at 8:00 am, and that's what time you need to be at work...your out! Oh, Yes...and you can't work past whatever time sunset falls on Fridays...I had MANY JOB OPPORTUNITIES WHERE THEY WERE GOING TO HIRE ME...BUT I wouldn't give up my "silly religion" and be their slaves! ALL THIS SACRIFICING, but still the ministers were not on my side. Andrew Hessong told me..."God's stronger than Satan!" There's no reason you can't get a forty hour week job!" When was the last time Andrew Hessong had a "WORLDLY" FORTY HOUR A WEEK JOB? The most they give you these days is thirty...if your lucky. To continue...I had sent an e mail to my local minister telling him that my son and I would not be at services that Sabbath because I did not have gas money. The local minister immediately forwarded my e mail to Andrew Hessong and he forwarded it to NONE OTHER THAN BRIAN DAVIS OF COURSE! In the first place... What gives them the right to forward an e mail meant only to the person I sent it to, as there was a statement in the e mail only my local minister understood what I was talking about. But when it got to the second and third parties...they MISINTERPRETED IT...and didn't even let me explain myself...THEY JUMPED TO THEIR OWN INTERPRETATION AND CONCLUSION...but I won't get into that long explanation. To try to "wrap up" the story...Andrew Hessong had "jumped on me" for I suppose "THINKING ON MY OWN" and moving so far away...AS HE SAW IT!...Now about the second thing he said to me over the phone that day was...B...MR.DAVIS SAYS YOU ACCUSE PEOPLE!"...I thought, "Where did that come from. What's that about? What is he talking about?"...NEVER GOT AN EXPLANATION...I believe I told Andrew Hessong Brian Davis has a problem with me...OH, I SHOULDN'T HAVE SAID THAT!!....BECAUSE...the next call I get was from none other THAN..THE GREAT (ALREADY GOD HIMSELF)...(he thinks)... BRIAN DAVIS!...He started by saying, "Mr. Hessong tells me you have a problem with me". While trying to defend myself and tell the others listening on the phone line, (and who knows who else was listening at "Headquarters on speakerphone)the same things I am now writing about, (which I didn't get very far as MR. BRIAN DAVIS kept telling me to BE QUIET, B. BE QUIET..(he really wanted to say...SHUT-UP!..but others were listening. I wouldn't OBEY MR. BRIAN DAVIS AND SHUT-UP...So he replied..."O.K...Your DISFELLOWSHIPPED!"...THE END...B.  March 28, 2012 9:21 AM


Update Thursday, March 29, 2012
 

On the March 28, 2012, 7:46 a.m. post, I wrote the wrong year of my last disfellowship by Brian Davis. My last and FINAL DISFELLOWSHIP BY BRIAN DAVIS was February 22, 2012. Before that, I was SECRETLY DISFELLOWSHIPPED in February 2006, but later was told by the church's attorney I was not. So if I was not, why wasn't I allowed to return to church services until my divorce was final,(21 months later??). BRIAN DAVIS' next attempt to disfellowship me, (but it was just a so called "suspension"), was when I innocently sent him the e mail I had sent to my attorney, saying, "I'm not listening to anyone". Then, as I stated, This last disfellowship February 22, 2012, when I wouldn't "shut up"...OBEY BRIAN DAVIS!!!What a bunch of crap!  March 29, 2012 7:17 AM


YOU KNOW THE "OPEN DOOR" that Gerald Flurry is always saying is there? Where was it when I tried to call "Headquarters" after my disfellowship by Brian Davis? I asked the secretary if I could speak to Gerald Flurry. She said he was out. I asked if he had an e mail...NO! I asked for the address to send him a letter...which I did...NO RESPONSE.

I know there is a "certain someone" who was mad as H... when "HE" was DISFELLOWSHIPPED BY THE WORLDWIDE CHURCH OF GOD. He still holds a GRUDGE against them, (because that's all "he" talks about), But "he" calls it "Warning the Laodiceans!" This same person was arrested for DRINKING AND DRIVING, (and anyone can prove it by just LOOKING UP HIS MUGSHOT in Oklahoma)...BUT, "little ole me"...never was arrested...NEVER BEEN IN ANY KIND OF TROUBLE WITH THE LAW...STAY AT HOME (RAISING FOUR CHILDREN, MOM)...and still raising one without help from his father...NAIVELY and INNOCENTLY TRUSTED AND BELIEVED EVERYTHING I WAS TOLD BY THE PHILADELPHIA CHURCH OF GOD "HIERARCHY",...was LIED TO, INTIMIDATED, COERCED, SHAMED, SLANDERED, GOSSIPPED ABOUT,(made up gossip),...in other words... TRASHED MY REPUTATION!...THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY HAVE DONE TO ME AND MY THIRTEEN YEAR OLD SON!...AND YOU HAVEN'T HEARD THE REST OF MY STORIES ABOUT BRIAN DAVIS AND HIS DEALINGS ,(HIS REVENGE), WITH ME.

By the way...Who DISFELLOWSHIPS people who are arrested for DRUNK DRIVING...hmm?...No ONE??...hmm...Oh, I see...It only applies to the DUMB SHEEP.

I bet they're announcing over the "loud speakers" that they've "MARKED" me...ain't that somethin...B.  March 29, 2012 8:14 AM

 

 

The Weird Mind of Conservative Armstrongites

Why is it that the minds of Armstrongites are hooked on everything weird out here? 
Why are they filled with conspiracy theories, UFO's, mother ships, nephillim, and a myriad of other things.
You hear promotions from every nut jobs out there, but no talk about Jesus Christ.
Just look at the latest Journal and the weird things people write for it.
Jesus Christ is barely discussed, but rantings of mad men and lunatic preachers are.

Here is what one nutjob is promoting on Facebook in a COG group who think they are the best law keepers in the world. This is factual to them.

Apostle Malm: When The Pope Comes You Cannot Go Home To Get Your Coat!

Apostate apostle Malm is upset with that nasty pope today and says the minute you see his sorry ass in Jerusalem then you need to flee immediately.  You are not even allowed to go home and get your coat - even though you have 75 days left until the tribulation starts.  Apparently you are to go straight to the nearest tall peak and wait for the mother ship to hover over you and beam you up so you can be  flown over to Petra and be deposited. 

24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
This abomination is set up as pope in Rome and then goes to the Holy Place [the whole Mount is Holy] triggering the tribulation.
When the abomination [the final false prophet]  is set up in Rome, he has only a total of 1,335 days before he is destroyed, Dan 12; Rev 19:20.
1,335 minus 1,260 for the tribulation, leaves the start of the tribulation at 75 days after the final abomination is set up in the papacy in Rome.
When you see the abomination set up in Rome, and recognize him by his miracles and his call for a new Europe; then know that the tribulation is imminent and will begin when he goes to the Mount.

It is when this final false prophet is set up in Rome and then goes to the Holy Place about 75 days later; that the great tribulation will begin; immediately, at that time, so quickly that one should not even go home to fetch his coat!  This we have on the direct authority of Jesus Christ.

I wish all these false apostles would make their minds up.  One minute the tribulation begins when we are not allowed to buy or work on Sundays. Then next it is the bar-code on our foreheads. Or it's Muslim hordes rampaging through Europe. Or the Germans setting up concentration camps in the United States. And we can't forget disease, famine, pestilence, earthquakes, tornadoes, floods, tsunamis, etc.  Fear, Fear, Fear, is the name of the game.

Compromising the Commandments Is Equivalent to Feeding Your Child "Poisen"

Don't you just love educated Apostles!  Apostate Malm is a great example on how legalism destroys the mind.

The Father and Christ are full of mercy and will quickly forgive the repentant, but THEY WILL NOT tolerate any sin; for sin destroys the people that they love so very much.
To illustrate the point:  Would a good parent feed his children a cup of arsenic each week?  Of course no, because that is a poison!  God expects elders to feed his flock of the good pasture of his word; and NOT the poison of  compromise with that Good Word!  To allow compromise with the commandments, is to feed the flock POISEN!  To teach tolerance for sin, teaches men to tolerate poison;  in God’s temple, his people.

The Apostate Apostle continues:

God’s Kingdom is not of this world.  We are IN the world, yet not OF the world.  As long as we are IN this world, we are to be subject to its authorities and powers; while still and always putting God FIRST.  And IF a law is made that requires us to break any of God’s commandments, we are to flee that nation and go to another city or nation, as our first choice.

Um, Herb and crew all teach that the Kingdom is coming to this world.  Christianity teaches that the kingdom is already breaking forth in believers.  They know that with God working in their lives that the kingdom is breaking forth in them and that they have no worries or fear about what is to come (unlike Armstrongites who live in houses of fear.)  Apparently Malm and crew are heading off to distant planets where they will be made kings and priests of their worlds where they will wreck havoc on sinners that will be sent to them for 1,000 years of correction by rods of iron. Talk about hell!

We have no business reaching out to the world, while we are full of sin inside ourselves and our organizations.  We need to clean up our own spiritual lives and get right with God.  We need to rekindle our passionate  zeal for God and his commandments; we need to get rid of those traditions not consistent with scripture; we need to start practicing what we preach, and to start setting a godly example instead of acting so shamefully. 

What a stupid excuse in not reaching out to the world!  Armstrongites will NEVER get rid of their sin by keeping the law.  They will NEVER be PERFECT keeping the law.  If you are a believer then you know that the commandments are irrelevant. Maybe that is why Malm and crew are such miserable, sad, and obsessively angry people.  No matter how much they try they just cannot get it right.  If they were believers, then they would know that it has all been taken care of, but they would rather slop around in the swill they were brought up in as they try to polish their dirty pearls around their necks.

Apostate Malm and crew would love to be able to walk by a beaten up black person, a gay person, a commandment breaker, etc., that is laying by the side of the road as they click their tongues in disgust.  Instead of reaching down and healing wounds they will walk on by with delight as they pretend to be perfect law keepers.  Can you imagine any of them taking out their wallets and getting a doctor or room for the person to heal in and then to provide for the long term care?  It will NEVER happen!  Malm won't do it.  Thiel won't do it. Pack, Flurry Meredith, Weinerdude and Hulme won't do it.