Tuesday, February 5, 2013

COG Secrets: Adam and Eve's Nakedness and Learning Greek So You Can Think Like God


For many years Rob Petry was on various COG groups preaching his understating about all kinds of COG related topics.  He was particularly prolific on the Yahoo groups.  I had forgotten about the guy because he was so crazy that he was easily dismissed.

A reader here sent me the following from him.  I did not know he was till around, but I always fail to remember that COG men who claim to have prophetic understating never fade away.

He offers these views on why Adam and Eve never knew they were naked until they ate the "apple."  Apparently since they were "god" beings at the moment of creation they were clothed in a dazzling aura of light that surrounded them. It was soooooooooooooooooo bright that they could not see they were naked. This amazing new teaching makes the picture above by Basil Wolverton to be a deceitful lie!
This is a simple question also. But, it is the simple that confuses and befuddles the human mind with it’s attitude of “being so superior” and “self-knowing.” Here’s that simple answer, first without explanation.
Before they sinned they could not see their bodies. So, if they could not see their bodies they could not have known they were naked.

How could that be, you ask? Well, they could not see their bodies, that’s why. Why is that so hard to understand? Because you are using a normal, carnal human mind in rebellion to the Creator in order to try and understand the simple teaching of the Bible. Even Paul speaks of the simplicity of the Evangel.
OK, here’s why they couldn’t see their bodies, and what happened so they could see them clearly. At that moment, they knew they were naked.

Let me ask you this question. If you believe what the Bible says, and IF you “know” what it says, can a human being LOOK at the Father in all His power and glory? If you don’t know the answer, then no wonder you don’t know what happened to Adam and Eve. You are truly ignorant of the Scriptures.

Let’s look at the obvious, after understanding. For, before understanding the answer lies hidden right before our eyes. Once you “understand” this, it will jump out of the Scriptures at you clearly. You know, like those moments when we say to ourselves, why of course, I knew that, I just never put it together before.

How then did Adam and Eve realize they were naked?

Adam was formed first.
“YHWH Elohim formed man of dust from the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.”
Later, Eve was taken from the side of Adam. The normal translation says from a “rib” but the implication is more from his side than just a rib. Be that as it may, they were formed as adults, with certain knowledge and ability already built in. Language and basic knowledge so they could communicate. Now, here’s a key part that tells us what happened. That is, IF we use a stable mind and not the double-mind of unconverted mankind. Here’s the statement:
“… Man is the IMAGE of Elohim, and the mirror of His glory.”
Also,
“… let US make man in Our own IMAGE.”
Well, what was that image like? Well, speaking of YHWH, we have a beautiful description.
“Thou art CLOTHED with honor and majesty. Who COVEREST Thyself with LIGHT AS WITH A GARMENT.”
Adam and Ever were also of that image. Although not of the same quality, their original bodies were COVERED with LIGHT, that is, with a GLORY like the glory of the Father!”

So, what happened to make Adam and Eve see their nakedness? Very SIMPLE. The MOMENT they SINNED, they LOST their glory, or LIGHT covering.  i.e. Their “clothing.” They now were fully exposed. No longer did they “glow” as does the Father and His Son in light. That light also kept them warm, but no longer.



This is also the same guy who thinks that God speaks in Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic, otherwise why would the Bible have been preserved in these languages? By learning those three languages you will learn to think just as God thinks!  Woo!
The Bible was preserved in three specific languages. Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek. And, the Father has inspired and led you to learn a language that leads to something very important. In fact, exceptionally important. That is:

“Let this MIND be in you….”

That’s right. By learning Greek, and Hebrew, you actually learn to think as the Father thinks. Including His Son. Remember, they preserved their thoughts in these languages for a reason!
From his blog where he claims to be revealing the "secrets" of learning Koine Greek (taught to him by Charles Dorothy)Introduction to Biblical Greek


Monday, February 4, 2013

Why Can't COG Prophets Ever Pick the Right Battle To Fight?




The following was a comment on another thread that I think describes perfectly why Bob Thiel and other COG false prophets end up making the Church of God the laughingstock of humanity. They have never figured out which battles to fight


LCG needs no encouragement to belittle the world's newest prophet, and Bob seems to need no encouragement to provide no end of ammunition to his detractors. You would think with that double portion of the hoky spirit, Prophet Bob would at least have the wisdom to know which battles to fight. Instead he makes football into his hobbyhorse, and himself into a laughingstock.

Since I know you read this blog Bob, you might want to consider choosing pet doctrines aren't so petty, and you might want to refrain from declaring war on every last thing that is considered normal in the prevailing culture. You're just spitting in the wind.

Why is it that so often people figure that if they make themselves as odd, different, and ascetic as possible, condemning every simple pleasure, that this is going to somehow add up to them being better people, or that the deity is going happier with them? The stoics did this, the pharisees did this, the puritans did this. Where is the virtue in this asceticism? Not all differences are positive changes. Some just make you into an unrelenting killjoy. And I guarantee you that none of these people ever received any feedback from any a deity, confirming that he was, indeed, happier because they had made themselves into such oddballs and killjoys. Why are people always so sure they know the mind of god, even when the purported words of the said deity in their own hoky book declare that no man can possibly know it?

Prophet Bob is just one more example of how, if god were so perfect, couldn't he have designed a little better wiring inside the human skull? Apparently, as a species, we still have a lot of evolving to do...

LCG Pastor: Nothing Wrong With Watching The Super Bowl



Poor discredited prophet Thiel.  Even LCG is taking swipes at him after his silly rash of posts lately about the evil and satanic game of football.

Wallace Smith writes:

Every year when it comes around, I discuss whether or not we will watch it, and this year I suspect we will still be on the road coming home from Pittsburgh, so if it makes the driving less congested, all the better! We’ve had several posts here on the blog about football–whether it’s a sin to watch it, will there be football in the millennium, the crime of putting bounties on opposing teammates where thugs are paid to hurt others, how it provides lively Spokesman Club table topics fare, how elderly ladies can wrongly be made to feel guilty for enjoying it, and how local communities should be warned when nerds throw footballs–and rather than make a (yet) another post, I thought I would simply list previous discussions for those who might be interested. And while I think I have addressed it before in at least one of the previous posts, I am sympathetic to the argument that they football players should go back to wearing leather hats instead of the helmets they use today, or even outer-padded helmets. There are a number of sports which could probably be made safer in a number of ways–professional pencil sharpening, for instance–and American football is clearly one of them. (As discussed, below, though: does that make the sport inherently sinful? Not at all. If something done unwisely made it inherently sinful, we’d all be in a lot more trouble than we are.) Apparently, the Super Bowl cometh…