Sunday, July 14, 2013

Philadelphia Church of God: Do Your Brats Behave In Church?




Those fun folk at PCG always have to play second fiddle to Davey Pack lately.  They are working over item to produce more articles that Davey has on his site.  It must be so humiliating to know you are second best in everything.

Anyway, one of the latest articles is Do Your Children Behave In Services? by Joel Hilliker


During Sabbath services in a congregation with a number of children, life happens on two levels. Only one carries on at the eye level of the average adult.

If you’re not paying attention, you’ll overlook the fact that there is a parallel world, often very active, happening just a few feet closer to the ground. You’ll overlook it, that is, until it breaks your concentration on the sermon or interrupts your fellowship.
But for those of us who produced these children, we have a responsibility we cannot abdicate. We must not become so engrossed in our adult world at services that we lose track of what’s happening with our children.

Each of us must ensure that they uphold God’s Philadelphian standards at Church services.
 Yes Sir!  That Philadelphian standard is a firm smack on the bare bottoms of these rebellious snot filled kiddo's.  If you had been doing your job right during the week by making you children lay still on a blanket on the living room floor for 2 hours they would not be causing such distractions.  Proper living room training is that if they cannot sleep or play SILENTLY for 2 hours then you are to beat their little asses till they remain quiet.  Satan is the author of rebellion and you have to beat Satan out of them.
To that end, very young children must be blanket trained at home. Set the blanket on the floor and sit in a chair facing it. Train your child to play silently on the blanket without getting off. (At home you can verbally label everything outside the blanket as “no” and discipline quickly when the child tests these boundaries.) Establish a routine so the child can fall asleep by himself on the blanket even while someone is speaking. These habits simply cannot be taught at services. They must be trained and enforced in your own home during the week.

Your child must NEVER distract you from the sermon by God's Mini-me Apostle.  His words are God's words and if you are messing with your snotty brats you will miss important code words that will help you know things the rest of humanity does not know.

Keep an eye on what’s happening in your children’s world. Anytime you notice their behavior during services slipping and beginning to impinge on your attentiveness to the messages, then be prepared to put in more “homework.”
In other words, spank them untill they submit and stay on that blanket.

They then quote from The Plain Truth About Child Rearing.  I can't believe that they still promote this disgusting filthy book.  That alone shows how sick PCG is.

Begin by training them to sit still in a chair. Again, practice at home. The Plain Truth About Child Rearing says, “Teach your child to sit still at various times during the day for periods of 5 to 10 minutes, or even longer. On occasion, have your child sit still, allowing him to look at a picture book, or color, or some similar pursuit, for as long as an hour or longer. In this way, you can begin to instill a vitally important habit in your child at a very early age.”
By 5 years old you child should be sitting in a chair for two hours without making a sound and diligently taking notes....

During Church services, by around age 5 (again, these are only rough guidelines) a child should be able to sit in his chair at least through the sermonette, perhaps even through announcements or longer. Before long he will have no trouble sitting for the full two hours.
Once a child begins reading and writing, you should gradually challenge him to apply these skills within Church services, in using the Bible and taking notes.
Teach your child to take notes during services first by having him copy scriptures and key phrases from your own notes. Start by only having him do it during the sermonette. Gradually increase your expectations, having him take down more of his own notes for longer stretches.

Depending on your child’s academic ability and maturity, sometime between third and fourth grade is probably a good target for him to be able to listen and take notes for the duration of services.
All one has to do is peruse the different Facebook pages to see how kids were treated for failing to remain quiet for two hours on their blankets.  These are adult snow telling how they were beat, smacked and punched while at church for being noisy.  They despise to this day what they parents did to them by forcing this silliness upon them.

Dennis on "Memo to the 16 and Sell My Soul Types" in the Restored Church of God





Memo to the 16 And Sell My Soul Types

Dennis Diehl - EzineArticles Expert AuthorI don't know who actually makes up the 16 men that Joshua C Pack claims hang on his every idea and word and agree 100% with him in all things.  Maybe I know one or two of you from my own days in Ohio but I have never seen a list of exactly who you guys are.  I find it hard to say "who you men are," because now you have to live with the fact that your arrogant and self absorbed leader has made fools out of you and exposed the mental, emotional and spiritual route you also must have had to come to confess before coming on board.  I'm not sure any real man or woman would become such a lap dog in service to Dave and not feel a twinge of "what the hell am I doing?"


At any rate, everyone now knows how much of your being, your soul, your integrity and your own unique journey through the WCG experience you had or will have to give up to conform to Dave Packs standards of "repentance."  This is not repentance from anything.  This is brainwashing of the worst spiritual kind.  No wonder Dale Schurter disappeared for awhile after losing his common sense to come to Dave's way of being.  We now all assume you 16 have equally provided a written copy of just how much of your brain and mind you were willing to take out and throw in the trash for Dave.  



Personally I don't believe you lost your ability in the past to discern good from evil as Dave asks.  I believe you have lost your ability to discern good from evil now that you have sold out your being and unique life and experiences.  



These parts are my favorite.




" Are you willing to temporarily or permanently become an associate pastor?

In case you all forgot, Dave wrote extensively about his own demotion to associate Pastor and I'm not seeing where he was all that willing or happy about it being temporary, much less permanent.  I include a chunk here for your memory refresh. This from Chapter 27 of his , "this is how I remember it all anyway," autobiography.  You can read or reread it all here:




He called it 'the Big Grapple," but expects those of you who he would force into this position to not see it that way.  Just know, Dave Pack never accepted in his life what he expects you to accept in yours.  Kinda weird huh?  No more weird to me however than calling himself "Mr Pack" and "The Packs" throughout his own autobiography.  Perhaps someone else actually wrote it I don't know and forget it was "auto" and not "unauthorized." 

I suggest you read it all before you accept his terms of employment.  Personally I think in his mind it is payback time and you will be treated as he bemoans his own treatment in the past when challenged with getting back into someone's good graces after years of complaints from his church members about him and his heavy hand in all things.



"Uncertain of the future, the Packs returned to Buffalo. Weeks later, on a Friday afternoon in August 1985, they received a telephone call that would dramatically alter their lives.
 

It was from Mr. Tkach. Mr. Pack knew instantly that he was not calling with good news. Mr. Harold Jackson, an elderly evangelist and Mr. Pack’s friend, was also on the phone.

“Dave, are you seated?”, Mr. Tkach began.

The field minister said, “No, but I can sit down.”

Mr. Tkach wasted no time: “We’ve heard some complaints. We think there are some lessons you need to learn, so we are sending you to New York City as an associate pastor.”

Mr. Pack could not believe the news. Yet another gross injustice, this time a plain demotion, and it had been stated in such a matter-of-fact manner—a terse notice that they would need to leave Buffalo as soon as possible—within a month. Mr. Tkach offered few explanations as to what were the problems, what lessons needed to be learned, or which brethren were upset.

“I was more shocked at this moment than at any other in my life to that point. I suppose in a way I feared it was coming, but the actual arrival of such an unbelievable injustice was the single most difficult experience in my life—or that of my wife. I had experienced injustice before, but NOTHING of this order. I knew that I had been the victim of a conspiracy of evil thinking, but would only learn later just how great that evil would be.

“What was worse, and what drove the moment indelibly into my mind, was that, while on the call, my 11-year-old son, Robby, ran into the house crying. Both sons had been playing a football game with neighborhood friends in the backyard—and Robby had snapped his collarbone—for the second time! He was simultaneously pleading for my help, while holding his shoulder as the bad news was being received. I did not realize the seriousness of his injury, and told him to go upstairs and I would be with him later.”

Mr. Pack hung up and walked upstairs in a daze to check on his son. Seeing his condition, the parents took him to the hospital. It was in the emergency room waiting area that the reality of the life-altering phone call sank in.

“I understood that New York City had been selected for my assignment because the goal of this maneuver was an all-out attempt to destroy my life. I would have no understanding of the true level of evil I was dealing with until years later. It was only in the apostasy that I fully understood the devil’s role acting through one of his chief agents in trying to destroy my ministry, in trying to get me to give up. Strangely, I was better able at that later point to more completely forgive the man for simply following the alien spirit that was probably always leading him.”


Reconsidering the Demotion

 

The next morning, without her husband’s knowledge, Mrs. Pack called the Ministerial Services Coordinator. Again, her family had known him since 1959 in Milwaukee, back when the Ochs family first came into the Church.

She pleaded with Mr. Tkach. Here are her words describing her call in a summary:

“‘You’ve known me for a long time, Mr. Tkach. I’m telling you, the reports you’re hearing are false. Why are you allowing these lies to be treated as truth without hearing our side? It is unfair and I don’t understand why you would do this to us.’

“I questioned him as to why my husband was being transferred when there was so much growth in Buffalo. I told him of senior ministers who had visited and praised him for all that was accomplished and explained that the decision made no sense.”

Assuring her he understood her concerns, Mr. Tkach said he would reinvestigate the decision.
Mrs. Pack hung up under the impression he was going to honestly reconsider the transfer. She could not have known that something much darker was unfolding.


A “Promotion”

 

The following Monday morning, Mr. Pack received another call from Mr. Tkach, only this time he was cheerful.

“I have good news!” he said. “We’ve been thinking about the situation over the weekend and I’ve received some additional counsel. We have decided to promote you.”


Alas, the "promotion" was a demotion in disguise but clever.  Dave did pick up on the clever part. 

(16) Are you willing to be excluded from the ministry until you requalify?

The next one simply means are you will to buy into the bullshit I have made up since coming to power in my own mind.  It means nothing else. 


 
(17) Are you familiar with the new teachings that God has added to His Church on top of what Mr. Armstrong taught?

  • Which ones?—and do you agree?
(18) If your ordination(s) is(are) invalid, are you interested in being re-trained for Christ’s true ministry?

Very favorite.  Point 19 is a formula for disaster in your future.  Most of his office staffs haven't quit in the past because they loved and deeply respected the boss no matter what he did or said.  I think Mr. Pack is making rules to avoid this problem in his future.  Of course it can't be avoided by real men. 



(19) Do you believe ministers should be able to voice opinions to others about:
  • Where Headquarters is “wrong”?
  • What Mr. Armstrong taught/said/did “wrong”?
  • What Mr. Pack teaches/says/does “wrong”?
  • Where your boss is “wrong” or harsh, etc.?
  • Where you disagree doctrinally?



20 is outstanding.  You'll find it difficult to cut your own throat and hang labels on yourself you hadn't even thought of until Dave brought them to your attention.  Personally I smell some burning pants on this one in Dave's own behaviors but maybe it's just me.  You will learn in time that the eye that sees, does not see itself.




(20) Do you consider yourself as having been (rate yourself from 5 being best to 0 being worst):
  • Weak
  • Cowardly
  • Slothful
  • Covetous
  • Confused
  • Compromising
  • Foolish
  • Political (And did you ever “run for office” in a splinter?)
  • Heretical
  • Deceitful
  • Easily deceived
  • Betrayed your calling



21 is awesome.  Be sure to use words like "in the bonds of Satan," "I had shit for brains,"  "I was so deceived and afraid."  DO NOT say you thought Jesus/Christ would fix it in time and you wanted to support the brethren through difficult times.  No..no, no..no...no...that will just be considered  A and B and x,y,z excuses. 




(21) Why did you lose the ability to “discern good from evil” (Heb. 5:13-14)?—and for so long?



For number 22 and just for the fun of it, why not put in "Abraham to come," "Moses the Magnificent," "Aaron of God," "One of the Two Witnesses You Will Train,"  or maybe "Amos of Tekoa Reborn," or "Spawn of Zerubbabel."  Rank is REALLY  important but please don't say anything above "Pastor." 


(22) What do you consider to be your ministerial rank?
Ÿ Evangelist Ÿ Pastor Ÿ Preaching Elder Ÿ Local Elder Ÿ Local Church Elder Ÿ “Elder” Ÿ Ministerial Assistant


For the next one here, you might consider a side note:  "I will if you will..."




(23) Are you prepared to dedicate the rest of your life to serving God’s flock and fixing completely the horrific mess you helped cause in so many lives?"


Go ahead, make Dave's day. Fill it in and send it in.   You can also go to bed every night knowing Dave has a copy stored somewhere.  He may not want you to share it with anyone, but I'm not so sure he wouldn't.  And if you show up employed, we'll know how you got there and how much of your soul , your experience, your own journey and your mind you have thrown away to get there. 


I can't speak for any save myself and the few ministers I actually know. But in my own journey through WCG those I knew were sincere.  They came into the church out of the hope it seemed to glean from scriptures and those things were important to them.  Most made compassionate ministers, that I knew, with right motives.  The whack jobs tended to rise to the top in WCG or at least stand out like sore thumbs.  I always faulted someone for not actually telling some they simply were not for the ministry. They were not helpers of anyone job but thorns in their sides.  Rather than moving them around and inflicting them on yet another congregation, tell them they aren't cut out for the job.  Never happened.  There was never a mechanism I ever saw for even testing a guy for even having the personality or heart for a pastor in reality.  


Dave Pack was brought back into the ministry after a layoff in 1973.  Dave has a tendency to see the spectacular in the mundane.  


"The field ministry was undergoing a restructuring in 1973, and, after careful consideration, the new Regional Director (RD) in Chicago requested Mr. Pack for an assignment in Rockford, Illinois. This was, in a sense, a significant promotion that sent the young ministerial assistant beyond where he would have been had he not been laid off."  Autobiography Chapter 15.


I can't speak for the spectacular promotion this was as this is how Dave saw it, but I was there.  The RD (George Kemnitz) was from Milwaukee and close friends with Shirley Packs father, Peter Ochs. Wonderful guy.  George asked me, as I was "spectacularly promoted" to being the RD's personal assistant and taken from Minneapolis to do so about bringing Dave Pack back into the ministry.  I don't recall offering much of an opinion. I was 23 years old and having my own miserable experience in Chicago with my own "promotion."  But Dave was brought back also as a family (dare I say nepotism) favor as far as I could tell. I was going to be sent to Rockford , Ill which is about 90 miles from Chicago because I told the RD I had had enough of the lifestyle and wasn't a johnny on the spot type. My days there consisted of babysitting, car washing, lawn mowing, going to the YMCA and sitting in the sauna and staying up until the wee hours of the morning which I don't do well. Chicago was where I learned to drink.  It was a joke. Then all hell broke loose, I got fired with George, got rehired the next week and sent to Eire , Pa but rerouted to Findlay, Ohio where I actually could be a pastor with wonderful folk.  Dave got the Rockford job in that way.  Chicago in 73 and 74 was a nasty place to be a young minister. 



At any rate, off topic.  You 16 and those that follow should think long and hard about what these 35 demands on your soul will do to you and your families down the road.   Amen.


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