From Hare Krishna to Seventh Day Adventist, to Church of God, to Beatnik and Now to Buddha

The convoluted life of Eric King has taken another twist.  After spending a few years in the Hare Krishna movement King suddenly became an Adventist.  That lasted until he ticked off some members and leaders and he jumped to Armstrongism where there was money to be made. Recently however, he made a move into the Beatnik status and his blog disappeared and his COG related web site was taken over by his Beatnik exploits.  Now all of a sudden, that page is gone and he is back on the web site promoting Buddhism.

We teach that one must make the conscious decision to join his or her human spirit with God’s true Spirit of pure love and understanding. To become a true Christian one must be birthed through and in the power of Holy Spirit. In this article I would like to incorporate some of the philosophical insights of Buddhism into our understandings as COGSR members.-

Originally Buddhism was never a “religion” but instead it was a world view, more of a philosophy. When we look at what are called “The Four Noble Truths” of Buddhism we can find some correlations with COGSR & SOCT teachings which are beneficial to our spiritual understandings.

The first “Noble Truth” is the fact that all life faces and experiences SUFFERING.

The second “Noble Truth” of Buddhism is that CRAVING causes all suffering.

The third “Noble Truth” is to find the “cessation of suffering”.

Another interesting teaching in Buddhism is the idea that “self” is an illusion.

Buddha found out some things that helped him deal with getting over all the suffering. These became codified in what is known as the “eightfold path” of Buddhism. I will here give a basic list of these eight findings:

1-Right understanding

2-Right thought

3-Right speech

4-Right action

5-Right livelihood

6-Right effort

7-Rightmindfulness

8-Right concentration

So these are the eight life changes one must develop to experience “enlightenment” according to the Buddhist. These are vague statements without definition. However, if one studies the SOCT teachings along with the COGSR teachings one can discover how the Christian views the definition of this eightfold path. As COGSR students we do not separate the physical from the spiritual. Both the physical practices and the mental practices must be balanced.  

Another interesting teaching in Buddhism is the idea that “self” is an illusion. As Christians we would apply this aspect of Buddhism to what we call the “sinful self”, or “fallen self”. The fallen nature is indeed a trap and a “false self”. I hope to do some more articles regarding the teachings of Buddhism and Christianity. 

King started his exploration of Buddhism about three years ago.  He also decided at that time to stop associating with certain friends and to stop drinking alcohol.

One thing I would like to say here…a most important discovery that has unfolded to me over the past three years in this ministry. I have learned that sometimes we need to cut-ties with certain people in order to continue HEALTHY GROWTH. When I made the decision just about three years ago to be more specific in who I associate with I found that I became more creative in my personal life. I gained much wisdom and understanding. Believe it or not some people hold us back from doing what we really want to do…they may not be conscious of it but somehow we are letting them. To move away from such people can free us up to experience a more joyful life.

While I like to make fun of King, I do understand he is on a spiritual journey.  What is obvious is that he has never found a place to be at peace.  Armstrongism has the great reputation of making its followers feel like they are never quit good enough.  God is always pissed off about something.  Members can never do anything right and always need a more intelligent person to tell them what to believe.  As the months and years go by King will shape shift into another persona, and another, and another.  He obviously wants to enjoy life, but will never find happiness while in the clutches of Armstrongism or legalistic religion.

Its too bad Herman Hoeh is no longer around.  King could take to Hoeh about what it means to be a Buddhist.

Herman Hoeh Closet Buddhist
The Enigma of Herman Hoeh
Herman Hoeh Memorial

Future God David C Pack Is Already MORE Than An Average Man

A reader here writes...maybe its Dave since he has instructed all members not to read "hate" sites....

I often see the comments about how Mr. Pack is foolish or only in it for the money. But he is not bothered by what you say, he knows that it is Satan working trying to disrupt the work that Mr. Pack does as God's only true end time apostle. Why else would so many enemies attack one person as you do here. It only strengthens our resolve to continue to support the work and Mr. Pack who is more than just some average man, he is obviously given special strength and abilities from God, he is super natural and awesome. You will all see soon that everything he teaches will come true and he will be a ruler in the Kingdom of God, and you will listen then because it will be so obvious. We know that we don't have to give anything that we don't want to, but it is a privilege to give to RCG and the money is used wisely by God's steward. So just keep scoffing and telling your filthy lies, or just get over it and prepare for the punishment that God will soon bring upon you. It gives me peace to know that I am of the elect and will have a special place in the kingdom, I will pray for you, you need that.

   

Bob Thiel Now Humbly Takes On The Elijah Mantle Because Rod Meredith Was Too Weak

Bob Thiel continues his fascinating mental meltdown into irrelevance in the eyes of the entire Church of God.  For a long time now Thiel claims to have had a double portion of the holy spirit pour out upon him by Gaylon Bonjour. Believing that he was somehow now highly enlightened spiritually he stabbed Rod Meredith and the Living Church of God in the back by starting his own "church."

Thiel has no credentials.  Has no meaningful theological training nor a degree in theology.  He was never ordained and never worked his way up through the ranks of the church.  None of that matters any more.  He has now bypassed the ranks of deacon, elder, minister and evangelist.  Bob now has become Elijah!


Thiel has to get in another dig at Meredith  and then moves on to his "doubly blessed" portion that is the same as Elijah's.

Elijah, however, over time seem to have lost the mental/emotional ability to properly lead (cf. 1 Kings 19:13-18). God later took him and replaced him with Elisha as the top ecclesiastical authority. Elisha then received a “double-portion” (two-portion literally) of the gift that God had given Elijah:

9 And so it was, when they had crossed over, that Elijah said to Elisha, “Ask! What may I do for you, before I am taken away from you?”
Elisha said, “Please let a double portion of your spirit be upon me.”
10 So he said, “You have asked a hard thing. Nevertheless, if you see me when I am taken from you, it shall be so for you; but if not, it shall not be so.” 11 Then it happened, as they continued on and talked, that suddenly a chariot of fire appeared with horses of fire, and separated the two of them; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.
12 And Elisha saw it, and he cried out, “My father, my father, the chariot of Israel and its horsemen!” So he saw him no more. And he took hold of his own clothes and tore them into two pieces. 13 He also took up the mantle of Elijah that had fallen from him, and went back and stood by the bank of the Jordan. (2 Kings 2:9-13)

The recipient of the double-portion, Elisha, was a type of Elijah. Elisha picked up the mantle of Elijah (2 Kings 2:13) which God wanted him to have (1 Kings 19:16-19), did a similar miraculous dry river crossing (2 Kings 2:13-14), also did other miracles (2 Kings 4:30-35; 2 Kings 10:5-14; 2 Kings 6:16-18), as he replaced Elijah as God’s top ecclesiastical authority on earth (cf. 1 Kings 19:16).

A minister of the Living Church of God prayed and anointed Bob Thiel for a ‘double portion’ of God’s Spirit back in late 2011.

Then he trots out dead Herb to give himself more legitimacy.

The Church of God position has been that someone would come in the spirit and power of Elijah to “restore all things” and possibly be one of the two witnesses. While the late Herbert W. Armstrong (died in January 1986) sometimes indicated that he fulfilled that role, he told people that I have personally spoken with that there could be another other than he. Those with a WCG background might find the following quote from Herbert W. Armstrong of some assistance here as he wrote:

Those called into the Church were called not merely for salvation and eternal life, but to learn the way of God’s government and develop the divine character during this mortal life in the Church age…
Also Malachi 4:5-6 pictures the Elijah to come at the very end of the Church age (Mystery of the Ages. 1985, pp. 201, 349).

Now since the Church age has not ended, and the Day of the Lord has not yet come, then it follows that Elijah was to come on the scene publicly after this was written. His restoring of “all things” means that he is to be restoring information that the true Church of God once understood, but later must have lost or misunderstood (see also LCG on Prophets: Rare, But Look for the Fruits and Is there a need for a prophet now?).

Those of the true and genuine Philadelphian remnant will pay much attention to his voice.  Those who do not will not fare as well as they could (cf. Revelation 12:14-17).

We in the Continuing Church of God “have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts” (2 Peter 1:19, KJV).”

It is fascinating watching the mental melt down a wanna-be COG leader in front of our eyes.  What makes Thiel more fascinating is how he self created himself into a church leader while never having been a minister. Its easy to see how David C Pack and Gerald Flurry went off the deepened because they were already narcissistic ministers.  Thiel however, is a new breed.

David C Pack Cult Believes It Can Deny Salvation To Disabled Member Unless He Starts Giving More Money

David C Pack has always had an appalling reputation in the Church of God for mistreating people.  That mistreatment is even more profound now that he is the leader of the splinter personalty cult, the Restored Church of God.

Tacked on to that mistreatment is his outrageous demands for money to be sent in.  In order to divert attention away from his abysmal prophetic failure in 2013, he is dumping millions of dollars into his cult compound.  New buildings are springing up, large lots of land purchased.  Orchards planted and gardens landscaped.  Demands are constantly being made to members to sell their stocks, cash in their retirement funds, mortgage their homes, and sell their businesses and give every dime theyhave because it ALL belongs to him and his god.


Bob Thiel had the following up on his blog:

07/15/14 a.m. Spoke with a man who was recently part of RCG late yesterday.

He brought up his view that David Pack and RCG are highly focused on money. So much so, he stated that a disabled person had been told by an RCG representative that he had to get a job so he could have more tithes/offerings to give to RCG. He said this person was told that if he did not, although he would still be allowed to attend RCG services, that he would not be granted salvation.

The individual I spoke with was horrified by this, and then quoted Ephesians 2:8-9, "For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast." He realized that RCG added a non-biblical requirement for salvation. He also mentioned other problems associated with David Pack and RCG.

While I knew that David Pack has long been obsessed with money, what I was told yesterday was even worse than I had heard before.

Years ago, in late 2007, David Pack basically told people to get into debt and cash out any retirement savings they had to give to him so he could build an impressive headquarters. David Pack indicated that this would be signal for all in the various COGs to come to him. 

David Pack later (in the Spring and Summer of 2013) stated that would happen by August 30, 2013. Of course, that date was proven to have been in error. But the obsession with money has not let up within RCG. 

As if this impotent little prick can deny salvation to anyone!

Jesus Christ, Coming On Pentecost of 2019...Prophet, Apostle and Convicted Felon Claims He Is Without Error In Proclaiming This New Date

The Church of God's most favored felon, Ron Weinland, has sent another inspiring letter from Birmingham jail.

After two previous embarrassing prophetic failures when Christ did not return on the dates Weinland predicted, the apostle spiritualized them away.  This time the apostle is CERTAIN that he cannot be wrong.

For some reason every single failed prophet has to come up with the same flimsily excuse when the dates fail.  The dates are turn into "spiritual" realities and and not a physical reality.  Its the same thing that the charlatan William Miller did in 1844 and the same thing that charlatans in the Church of God are doing today.

As God’s end-time apostle and prophet, I am now going to begin proclaiming a third date for the expected coming of Jesus Christ. At this time, this is obviously only for the Church. No one else will receive it yet, unless they are being called by God.

Does it matter that others do not believe now? No! But it does matter for God’s Church, as this has everything to do with following God wherever He leads His Church. It is for the learning, training, transforming, and greater growth of His people.

In God’s time, many in the world and the Church that has been scattered will begin to see, hear, fear, and change.

So what is this new date? It is necessary to properly set the stage for this, which concerns what God has revealed to me as a prophet. He has revealed that His purpose and design, beginning when the First Seal was opened on the day of the Apostasy (Dec. 17, 1994) to the coming of His Son to reign, contains “seven periods of 1260 days.”

The basis for establishing a third date is a matter of my function as an apostle, as I am utilizing all knowledge, clarification, and truth that God has given us to this moment in time. Since Pentecost of 2012, God has poured out upon us vast amounts of new, clarified, and needful knowledge, which has made it possible to teach and proclaim an incredibly beautiful, inspiring, and truly the clearest picture ever of what God has designed, purposed, and is now more fully bringing to pass concerning His Son, Jesus Christ, coming on Pentecost of 2019. The time from the Apostasy to the Messiah’s coming does contain 7 periods of 1260 days, plus some specific additional time that God has given as “signs” to accompany His design, revelation, and deep meaning in all that He is bringing to pass.

As a result of focusing on two previous dates, those in God’s Church have been mightily matured and strengthened through that experience, and we have consequently grown in greater wisdom and have been far more fully prepared for where we are now and where we are headed – far more than what we were before Pentecost of 2012. As a matter of faith and of seeing a clear, clarified, and completed picture of God’s purpose from the Apostasy to Christ’s return, I do not believe it is possible that this new date has any error or lack of understanding in its calculation (which will be addressed a little later). Having said that, if for any reason the timing were to go beyond this new date in 2019, then we can be certain that God will reveal much more to us in order to give us even greater understanding, just as He has in the past. If indeed this proved to be the case, we would simply continue moving forward, following Him wherever He leads His Church.

According to Weinerdude, it is mathematically IMPOSSIBLE for him to be wrong...this time....

6) Beginning with Pentecost 2012, the combined period of 42 months along with the final seventh cycle of 1260 days ends during the Days of Unleavened Bread in 2019. Not only that, but more importantly, it ends on the day of the “wave-sheaf offering” from when the count for Pentecost begins.

Again, the mathematical probability of this alone, along with the absolute impossibility of the combined previous 5 numerical fulfillments all working together in harmony and unison of purpose as they do, giving such exacting times and dates, simply magnifies the glory and power of God to purpose, design, and fulfill such a thing.

 Its time for the braying jackass to shut up.