Sunday, July 20, 2014

Bob Thiel Now Humbly Takes On The Elijah Mantle Because Rod Meredith Was Too Weak



Bob Thiel continues his fascinating mental meltdown into irrelevance in the eyes of the entire Church of God.  For a long time now Thiel claims to have had a double portion of the holy spirit pour out upon him by Gaylon Bonjour. Believing that he was somehow now highly enlightened spiritually he stabbed Rod Meredith and the Living Church of God in the back by starting his own "church."

Thiel has no credentials.  Has no meaningful theological training nor a degree in theology.  He was never ordained and never worked his way up through the ranks of the church.  None of that matters any more.  He has now bypassed the ranks of deacon, elder, minister and evangelist.  Bob now has become Elijah!


Thiel has to get in another dig at Meredith  and then moves on to his "doubly blessed" portion that is the same as Elijah's.

Elijah, however, over time seem to have lost the mental/emotional ability to properly lead (cf. 1 Kings 19:13-18). God later took him and replaced him with Elisha as the top ecclesiastical authority. Elisha then received a “double-portion” (two-portion literally) of the gift that God had given Elijah:
9 And so it was, when they had crossed over, that Elijah said to Elisha, “Ask! What may I do for you, before I am taken away from you?”
Elisha said, “Please let a double portion of your spirit be upon me.”
10 So he said, “You have asked a hard thing. Nevertheless, if you see me when I am taken from you, it shall be so for you; but if not, it shall not be so.” 11 Then it happened, as they continued on and talked, that suddenly a chariot of fire appeared with horses of fire, and separated the two of them; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.
12 And Elisha saw it, and he cried out, “My father, my father, the chariot of Israel and its horsemen!” So he saw him no more. And he took hold of his own clothes and tore them into two pieces. 13 He also took up the mantle of Elijah that had fallen from him, and went back and stood by the bank of the Jordan. (2 Kings 2:9-13)
The recipient of the double-portion, Elisha, was a type of Elijah. Elisha picked up the mantle of Elijah (2 Kings 2:13) which God wanted him to have (1 Kings 19:16-19), did a similar miraculous dry river crossing (2 Kings 2:13-14), also did other miracles (2 Kings 4:30-35; 2 Kings 10:5-14; 2 Kings 6:16-18), as he replaced Elijah as God’s top ecclesiastical authority on earth (cf. 1 Kings 19:16).

A minister of the Living Church of God prayed and anointed Bob Thiel for a ‘double portion’ of God’s Spirit back in late 2011.

Then he trots out dead Herb to give himself more legitimacy.

The Church of God position has been that someone would come in the spirit and power of Elijah to “restore all things” and possibly be one of the two witnesses. While the late Herbert W. Armstrong (died in January 1986) sometimes indicated that he fulfilled that role, he told people that I have personally spoken with that there could be another other than he. Those with a WCG background might find the following quote from Herbert W. Armstrong of some assistance here as he wrote:
Those called into the Church were called not merely for salvation and eternal life, but to learn the way of God’s government and develop the divine character during this mortal life in the Church age…
Also Malachi 4:5-6 pictures the Elijah to come at the very end of the Church age (Mystery of the Ages. 1985, pp. 201, 349).
Now since the Church age has not ended, and the Day of the Lord has not yet come, then it follows that Elijah was to come on the scene publicly after this was written. His restoring of “all things” means that he is to be restoring information that the true Church of God once understood, but later must have lost or misunderstood (see also LCG on Prophets: Rare, But Look for the Fruits and Is there a need for a prophet now?).

Those of the true and genuine Philadelphian remnant will pay much attention to his voice.  Those who do not will not fare as well as they could (cf. Revelation 12:14-17).

We in the Continuing Church of God “have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts” (2 Peter 1:19, KJV).”
It is fascinating watching the mental melt down a wanna-be COG leader in front of our eyes.  What makes Thiel more fascinating is how he self created himself into a church leader while never having been a minister. Its easy to see how David C Pack and Gerald Flurry went off the deepened because they were already narcissistic ministers.  Thiel however, is a new breed.

15 comments:

Connie Schmidt said...

Ok, lets see which of the original Elijah's special miracles that Thiel has done, or has repeated in type...

Miracles in the Career of Elijah:

1) Causing the rain the cease for 3 1/2 years (1Ki 17:1)
2) Being fed by the ravens (1Ki 17:4)
3) Miracle of the barrel of meal and cruse of oil (1Ki 17:14)
4) Resurrection of the widow's son (1Ki 17:22)
5) Calling of fire from heaven on the altar (1Ki 18:38)
6) Causing it to rain (1Ki 18:45)
7) Prophecy that Ahab's sons would all be destroyed (1Ki 21:22)
8) Prophecy that Jezebel would be eaten by dogs (1Ki 21:23)
9) Prophecy that Ahaziah would die of his illness (2Ki 1:4)
10) Calling fire from heaven upon the first 50 soldiers (2Ki 2:10)
11) Calling fire from heaven upon the second 50 soldiers (2Ki 2:12)
12) Parting of the Jordan (2Ki 2:8)
13) Being caught up to heaven in a whirlwind (2Ki 2:11)

Miracles that Thiel has done that even PARTIALLY match Elijah's...
NONE

PS - To Thiel:
If you get to play being Elijah, do I get to play being Deborah from the Bible too?? It is so fun playing "make believe" together isn't it Bob?

DennisCDiehl said...

"He" opined:

Those of the true and genuine Philadelphian remnant will pay much attention to his voice. Those who do not will not fare as well as they could (cf. Revelation 12:14-17)."

I love how Bob codetalks. "That Prophet" does it as does Dave Pack when speaking of "that one who.."

Why not just say.."Those of the true and genuine Philadelphian remnant will pay much attention to MY voice."

That's what he means but somehow one can say it from a distance should disclaimer day ever come. Unless you are the Apostle Paul, these guys have a problem taking responsibility for their beliefs in I, me and my.

Bob doesn't need a following. He needs mental health counseling

DennisCDiehl said...

"He" opined:

Those of the true and genuine Philadelphian remnant will pay much attention to his voice. Those who do not will not fare as well as they could (cf. Revelation 12:14-17)."

I love how Bob codetalks. "That Prophet" does it as does Dave Pack when speaking of "that one who.."

Why not just say.."Those of the true and genuine Philadelphian remnant will pay much attention to MY voice."

That's what he means but somehow one can say it from a distance should disclaimer day ever come. Unless you are the Apostle Paul, these guys have a problem taking responsibility for their beliefs in I, me and my.

Bob doesn't need a following. He needs mental health counseling

Black Ops Mikey said...

OK then.

When Booby Thiel raises a child from the dead, can actually change the weather and can make an axe head float in water, we'll give him a try as a reincarnated Elijah (or Elisha as the case might be).

In the meantime, we expect him to have a 100% success rate on his prophecies.

Without any of that, it won't matter if he has a million portion of the spirit (or is the spirits you drink?).

Black Ops Mikey said...

Instead of being fed by ravens like Elijah, Theil is going to eat crow.

Anonymous said...

"Thiel has no credentials. Has no meaningful theological training nor a degree in theology."

Neither did HWA...

Ronco

Anonymous said...

What credentials do RCM and others really have? They have been poorly educated (indoctrinated) as young men under the teaching of a high school drop out (HWA, from a college that was not accredited. Thiel is as well qualified (meaning unqualified) as any other COG leader. Could many of them pass a basic Freshman course in interpretation offered at any legitimate Bible college? I think not.

Byker Bob said...

It was embarrassing enough to live the life of an Armstrongite, constantly having to make ridiculous explanation for various really stupid things that never happened. Still, we could understand if someone who had no other bankable job skills started a splinter, or continued as a splinter minister.

But this is something else again. It is embarrassing on steroids to watch Thiel, someone with an existing profession, devolve, devalue and degrade himself like this. The natural assumption would not be that he has a valid ministry, it would be that there was some sort of mentally degenerative pathology at work.

BB

Anonymous said...

Here is how decide the truth. Mr. Thiel, Mr. Pack, Mr. Meredith, Mr. Weinland all meet together to sort it out. Mr. Weinland uses his numero uno of the two witnesses power to shoot a death ray at the others. Double portioned Mr. Thiel ducks, having predicted the death ray. He's a prophet after all. Mr. Pack and Mr. Meredith get zapped, leaving Weinland and Thiel to duke it out for eternity.

Anonymous said...

If being less weak and more honest than Rod Meredith qualifies a man to be the end-time Elijah, then who among us IS NOT qualified to be the end-time Elijah?

RSK said...

Thiel has been insinuating for some time that Spanky is experiencing some failure of his mental faculties.

Its also very funny to see Bob Thiel be the one to insinuate it. He doesn't strike me as particularly "well" himself.

Byker Bob said...

Hey! In Armstrongite circles, didn't Herbie and the jets supposedly fill the role of Elijah in modern times? And, skipping back to antiquity, wasn't it Elisha who received the double portion?

Thiel can't even posit his own legend accurately. What a disgrace! And he wonders why nobody will follow him except hungry, impoverished Africans? Get real, Thiel!

BB

Black Ops Mikey said...

If Scripture has any relevance, maybe they can all sort it out amongst themselves in the Lake of Fire as their final act....

Anonymous said...

According to Thiel, he's got the "double portion", so you MUST believe him...CASE CLOSED!

(In actuality it's a case of his delusion-prone mind being closed, so, folks, we're all better off taking anything he says with a few tons of salt.

old EXPCG hag said...

Why don't I hear of these guys picking on Flurry, after all he says it is HE whom has taken the mantle now because as Flurry says it was only HE AND HIS CLAN that went to court and fought for the right to republish HWA's books...I guess that includes editing them also?

DO A JIG!