Monday, November 22, 2010

COG/Armstrongism Stories Currently on the Web (Updated)

Some news stories floating around on the web that may interest some.

The first is about Billy Graham, a story about the interview with The Plain Truth.  The Plain Truth magazine is no longer associated with WCG /Grace Communion International.  It is an independent spin off run by Greg Albrecht.    One interesting side note is that one of Billy Grahams sons is married to a former WCG Pasadena HQ employee.  I imagine Herb is spinning in his grace over that one!  

ASSIST MinistriesMONTREAT, NC (ANS) -- Back in 1997, I had been invited to a media event at his at Billy Graham’s mountaintop home in Montreat, North Carolina to write a cover story for Plain Truth magazine about Mr. Graham and also to ask him what it meant to be “born-again.”
This cover piece was to help re-launch the magazine, and that in itself was quite an historic event as Plain Truth had once been a publication arm of Herbert W. Armstrong and had at the time just became the first “cult” in history to change to an Evangelical theology and had even joined the Evangelical Press Association (EPA). 


Billy Graham story in Plain Truth
Armstrong, who also founded the Radio Church of God (later renamed the Worldwide Church of God), Ambassador College and The World Tomorrow radio and television programs, had originally called the magazine The Plain Truth, and following his death in 1986, it ceased publication by the Worldwide Church of God and began as publication by the non-denominational Plain Truth Ministries (www.ptm.org).

The new Plain Truth was to have radically different editorial content, and mainstream Christian teaching, featuring a variety of Christian authors.
Before the media event began, Mr. Graham had kindly shown a group of us around his modest home and I marveled at how humble it was. Here was a man who was a world figure living in this simple log cabin with his wife Ruth, who has since passed on.

Dan Wooding meets with Billy and Ruth Graham after the interview at their home


Then, about 50 of us journalists, gathered in the back yard, and Billy took his seat on the porch and began taking questions under the supervision of his long-time media man, A. Larry Ross.So now, as Billy Graham has recently celebrated his 92nd birthday on Sunday, November 7, 2010, I thought it was time to re-run the story, with a few light edits to bring it up to date.
So here it is as it appeared in Plain Truth in their 1997 March/April edition:


Read the rest of the story here:  Just As I Am





From Here & Back Again: The World is Ending in 2012 … or is it?

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By Jim Coufal
There have been many predictions of the end of the world; they have all been wrong. But they do provide both humor and pathos and the opportunity to reflect on human nature. These include prophesies/predictions of the end of the world, Armageddon, the rapture, the coming of a messiah, the second coming of a messiah and other such world-ending events.
In America today, perhaps the most thought-provoking prediction is that of Jesus, who said, “Verily, I say unto you, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom” (Matt. 16:28).
This implies Jesus’s second coming during the Apostles’ lifetime, and they expected it. It did not happen.
Yet there are those today who believe the Bible is the literal, unerring word of God.

John Wesley, founder of the Methodist Church, foresaw the millennium beginning in 1836. It didn’t happen.

One missed millennium date leads to another.

William Miller, leader of the “Millerite Movement,” predicted the return of Jesus sometimes between March 21, 1843, and March 21, 1844, allowing himself a little wriggle room. Wriggle or no, it didn’t happen.

But Miller had gathered thousands of devotees, and when Jesus failed to show, the cult experienced a crisis of faith and began reinterpreting the prophecy and aggressively proselytizing. An offshoot became the Seventh Day Adventists of today. Perhaps it would be fair to call our major religions “cults” – grown large and powerful.

Skipping plenty of other prophecies and moving ahead to times in which many of us have lived, Herbert W. Armstrong of the Worldwide Church of God told his followers that the...Read the rest of the story here: From Here Back Again. The World is Ending in 2012




The Grace of Our Lord Jesus Christ – His True Grace, Not the Watered Down Religious Version!


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I was a member of a legalistic cult, known as The Worldwide Church of God, for seven years, where the ministers behaved like Pharisees and regularly laid guilt upon us through Old Covenant teaching i.e. trying to get us to keep the Old Covenant Law under our own strength. We, the congregation, were as those described in Galatians1:6 (foolish Galatians) only most of us, in all fairness, had never heard the original true message of grace in the first place. In defence of the cult, what I will say is that we learned Old Testament scriptures very thoroughly indeed, which in itself, as a study, was not a bad thing. I will also add at this juncture that cults do not have a monopoly in legalism – they are not the only grace killers, but I have digressed somewhat – just a little about my background.

Entire article is here: The Grace of Our Lord Jesus Christ



Ron Weinland continues to make a jackass of himself.  The God Discussion is discussing him now.

Worldwide Church of God Offshoot: Jesus Is Returning on May 27, 2012, Mockers Are Issued a Stern Warning

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the end is nearThe Worldwide Church of God, once led by the late Herbert W. Armstrong, was considered by many to be a cult.   It allegedly had over 140,000 members in its prime.   The church changed its doctrines after the 1986 death of Armstrong, which led to numerous people leaving the church and the formation of various "splinter churches."   The Worldwide Church of God  changed its name to Grace Communion International, probably a move to cut its ties to its cult reputation and the dozens of Armstrong splinter groups.  The new organization is not considered to be a cult, but more in line with mainstream Christianity.
Although Armstrong has been dead for over 20 years,   those familiar with his church are still passionate about his influence.   Some staunchly cling to his teachings; others feel abused, disillusioned and/or angry.   Various websites and blogs continue to provide news and support for former members.
The various splinter churches that rose from the ashes of the old version of the Worldwide Church of God each appear to be proclaiming to be "the one true church" and true champions of Armstrongism.  They are strict Friday  sunset to Saturday sunset Sabbath keepers.  They continue to follow the "holy days" set forth in the Old Testament.  They follow Armstrong's teachings about the Trinity, dietary laws, tithing and other subjects, including a belief in "the tribulation" and end times.  Read the rest of the story and comments here:  Worldwide Church of God Offshoot: Jesus is Returning on May 27 2012


Unique Book Of Inspirational Sermons Now Available Through Christian Archives

NILES, Michigan -- Christian Archives (www.christianarchives.org) has debuted Inspirations Volume One, a book of sermons for everyday living.

The collectible book contains more than 20 inspirational sermons, each hand-picked from submissions from pastors and religious leaders world-wide. Mark Batterson, National Community Church; Cardinal Justin Rigali, Archbishop of Philadelphia; Dr. Johnny Hunt, Southern Baptist Convention; Dr. William H Willimon, Grace Communion International; and Doug Batchelor, Amazing Facts Ministries are just a few of the notable contributors to this publication.

Proceeds from the book will go to Christian charities and continue to support the goals at Christian Archives.  

“We hope this collection provides comfort and inspiration to readers,” explains Brian Callahan, co-founder of Christian Archives. “We worked with members of the religious community to create a book that will be well-read by Christians everywhere.”

Christian Archives has been providing churches with an easy-to-use online platform for storing and serving sermon files and other content to their membership and the online Christian community. Since the demand for sermons online has been growing and inspiring.

Rest of article here:  Sermons

Smackdown 2010: Leon Walker vs Mario Seiglie



Letter from Leon Walker regarding UCG accusations:

11-19-10
Hello everyone,

As you know, Denny Luker sent a letter to the Spanish ministry still credentialed by UCG demanding that they choose between him or me—as though that was the issue. The letter contains many errors regarding this issue—including the concept that I have formed a group in competition with UCG. This is totally false. I have not formed any new group. I have visited with and spoken only before United Church of God congregations in Latin America, pastored by ministers still credentialed by UCG. However, Mario Seiglie has traveled to Latin America and formed groups in competition to the UCG congregations—contrary to the UCG Rules of Association.

This morning Mario began a telephone campaign calling the Spanish ministry and asking what they plan to do regarding Mr. Luker’s letter. Mario attempted to intimidate them by stating that if they reject the Council of Elders they are rejecting the government of God. How arrogant! Did Mario believe that when he rejected the WCG Pastor General in 1995 that he was rejecting the government of God? Rejection of a system that has gone astray from God is not rejection of the government of God. Mario even attempted to intimidate one minister by implying that his rejection of Mr. Luker will send him into the Great Tribulation.

However, the ministry in Latin America will not be intimidated by such bullying.

Warmest regards,

Leon Walker

Woe To The Shepherds Destroying My Sheep

I found it very interesting that today's Lectionary reading for the last Sunday before Advent (Feast of Christ the King) was scriptures directed towards deviate ministers, particularly in light of the deviate behavior of the Philadelphia Church of God that has been exposed in the last few days and in the ongoing collapse of United Church of God.




Today reading is from Jeremiah 23:1-6

Jeremiah 23:1-6 (New International Version)

The Righteous Branch
 1 “Woe to the shepherds who are destroying and scattering the sheep of my pasture!” declares the LORD. 23 “I myself will gather the remnant of my flock out of all the countries where I have driven them and will bring them back to their pasture, where they will be fruitful and increase in number. 4 I will place shepherds over them who will tend them, and they will no longer be afraid or terrified, nor will any be missing,” declares the LORD.  5 “The days are coming,” declares the LORD,
   “when I will raise up for David[a] a righteous Branch,
a King who will reign wisely
   and do what is just and right in the land.
6 In his days Judah will be saved
   and Israel will live in safety.
This is the name by which he will be called:
   The LORD Our Righteous Savior.

Jeremiah 23:1-6 (The Message)

Jeremiah 23

An Authentic David-Branch
 1-4 "Doom to the shepherd-leaders who butcher and scatter my sheep!" God's Decree. "So here is what I, God, Israel's God, say to the shepherd-leaders who misled my people: 'You've scattered my sheep. You've driven them off. You haven't kept your eye on them. Well, let me tell you, I'm keeping my eye on you, keeping track of your criminal behavior. I'll take over and gather what's left of my sheep, gather them in from all the lands where I've driven them. I'll bring them back where they belong, and they'll recover and flourish. I'll set shepherd-leaders over them who will take good care of them. They won't live in fear or panic anymore. All the lost sheep rounded up!' God's Decree."  5-6"Time's coming"—God's Decree—
   "when I'll establish a truly righteous David-Branch,
A ruler who knows how to rule justly.
   He'll make sure of justice and keep people united.
In his time Judah will be secure again
   and Israel will live in safety.
This is the name they'll give him:
   'God-Who-Puts-Everything-Right.'

These are pretty damning words directed at





The Message Bible version is rather plain in what God is going to do to these men and all other fools like them:

"Well, let me tell you, I'm keeping my eye on you, keeping track of your criminal behavior. I'll take over and gather what's left of my sheep, gather them in from all the lands where I've driven them. I'll bring them back where they belong, and they'll recover and flourish"

The lost and damaged sheep will be gathered in and made safe.  They will have time to recover, heal and flourish without any ministurd of Armstrongism running their lives any more.

They will be like the frolicking calves in last weeks Lectionary reading. Malachi 3: 19-20.  Anyone who has ever seen calves running out of a barn into a wide open field will see them jumping and kicking in pure bliss.


See, the day is coming, burning like an oven, when all the arrogant and all evildoers will be stubble; the day that comes shall burn them up, says the Lord of hosts, so that it will leave them neither root nor branch. But for you who revere my name the sun of righteousness shall rise, with healing in its wings. You shall go out leaping like calves from the stall.

Great will be the day in the future when no Armstrongite ministurd will be around to influence and destroy peoples lives!

I will be a time like what is described in Adrian Plass's book and CD, "City of Gold".

When I'm in heaven
Tell me there'll be peace at last.
That in some meadow filled with sunshine
Filled with buttercups and filled with friends
You'll chew a straw and fill us in on how things really are...

That is the hope of things to come.  Sitting in conversation with a God who sits down with us and tells us how "things really are",  The pure bliss of frolicking calves and baby sheep.





Friday, November 19, 2010

Another Sad Legacy of Armstrongism: Flurry Cult (Philadelphia Church of God) Members Abandoning Their Children

The Painful Truth has a letter about a young teenager who was kicked out of her home because of Flurry's filthy teachings.  This is not an isolated case in Flurrydumb. This has happened to others.  If the child is older and does not believe in Flurry's filthy message then they are kicked out.  Flurry teaches parents to do this to their kids. He teaches them to cut  off all ties to family members who are not part of PCG.  Families have been destroyed, grandparents have been cut off from grandchildren, young adults from parents, and the list could go on and on.


Satan's Human Face



Philadelphia Church of God Parents

Abandon Minor-Aged Daughter


When my 17 year-old niece told her parents she no longer wanted to participate in the Philadelphia Church of God, her cult-member parents abandoned her to the streets. "God's Will," her mother said. For some time, my niece has been disillusioned by the Philadelphia Church of God. Her first awakening occurred when she asked her parents if she could stay with a non-cult-member relative who lives on the East Coast, (that would be my wife and me), for two weeks, as part of her summer vacation. A boy her age, (a non cult-member), who was enrolled in an accelerated program at school studying to become a doctor, was staying with us. My niece particularly wanted to meet this boy because she is also interested in studying medicine. The relative, that would be me and my wife, planned on taking the boy and my niece to see NYC and the NJ shore. My niece's parents adamantly refused to let her visit with us. My niece's "God ordained head of the household father," who had been barred from practicing nursing in several States for violations (I believe he showed up at the care facility in which he was employed, intoxicated. First, he was suspended for 2 years, then he had his license revoked permanently), especially wouldn't even hear of the idea. My niece became distraught. Instead of letting their daughter enjoy her summer vacation with a like-minded teenager pursuing a career in medicine, her parents forced her to stay at home in the company of another girl from the Philadelphia Church of God. My niece says this cult-member spent most of the time on her cell phone, bragging about having a three-way with two Mexican boys.


When my niece continued to press her parents to be released from the abuse of the Philadelphia Church of God, her mother said she was "dead to her," and turned her photo face down on her bureau top. Her parents told her to leave the house, as they wanted to concentrate their love and affection on their other daughters, who wanted to remain in the cult. My niece said her parents told her she was infecting the household with her "evil." While kicking her out of the house, they refused to drive her anywhere, and threatened anyone who helped her with legal action for harboring a minor. My niece was forced to walk a busy highway for over an hour alone, until a classmate saw her and gave her a ride.
 Read the rest of the story here:  PCG Parents Abandon Minor Daughter

Hat tip to Felix....Why We Don't Get Over It