Saturday, January 18, 2014

David C Pack Says Top Ministers In Various COG's are Demon Inspired


Poor Dave.  Try as he might he still cannot draw people in from the various COG's.  He blames this issue upon the leaders of the various COG's.  It sees these men have told their members to ignore the lunatic rantings of Dave, and the brethren have.  In light of Dave's epic failure with the grand reunification last fall, this is particularly galling to Dave.

Tragically, most fall prey to devil-inspired attacks upon, and deceit about, God’s one Church coming from the top men in their organizations (but also other ministers) until it is too late for them to recover. Why does no one believe Christ’s FOUR explicit warnings, just in Matthew 24, about “many” at the end of the age who “deceive” in His name and gain “many” followers? The context makes plain He is not speaking of the world.

I don't think it is an issue with people believing the words of Jesus Christ.  The problem lies when it comes from the mouth of a narcissistic abuser.  That is what turns people off.  All the scripture quoting in the world will not bring people to Dave's side of the camp.

Friday, January 17, 2014

David C Pack Whines About Dress Standards in ALL the Church of God's



Because so many in the various COG's dress like whores, they have moved BEYOND the Laodicean era into oblivion! Apparently the United Church of God has reached this point on their church journey.  They have left Laodicea behind.....probably like the behind above.....

The United Church of God becomes a case in point. This organization has been marching directly back to the world for the almost 19 years of its existence. (I explain this in detail in many places. Dress standards alone in ALL of the groups are blinking neon lights to those with observant “eyes to see” that this march is happening everywhere—that many are even moving beyond Laodicea.) United’s journey is almost complete. Obviously, they deny this. But has anyone ever seen, or even heard of, a single church on Earth—EVEN ONE!—that admits it is of this world? Of course not. That United’s leaders are now working in a “cooperative” tandem with a large group that Mr. Armstrong’s son led away in rebellion over 35 years ago is merely the latest outrage they commit against God, Mr. Armstrong’s legacy and their docile membership who are so willing to let them get away with their deceit. This deception necessarily involves what they say about me and God’s true Church and Work! (That Mr. Armstrong’s long-time, professed-to-be-loyal assistant leads UCG’s charade and no one calls him on it is appalling. But none can confront when they are pushing from behind.)

David C Pack Sends New Superfantabulous Letter To The Entire Church of God. Woo Hoo!



David C. Pack is back today with a new letter to the "brethren" that he was humiliated in front of this past Feast of Tabernacles.  When his epic prophecy of a grand reunification failed to happen, Dave went sulking off with his tail between his legs into utter silence.  He quickly became the laughing stock of the entire Church of God.

Ever the narcissist he is, Dave had to announce last week that he was writing a letter to be released today.  If he was a humble servant leader, he would have just written a letter and been done with it, but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, he had to announce that he was writing one.

Today he writes his most superfantabulous letter EVER!!!!  Brethren, it is LOADED!!!!!!!!!!

For five years, starting after 2009, I have written an Open Letter about The Restored Church of God to all of God’s people. This will be the longest and most inspiring of the five. You will want to read every paragraph—each one is loaded!
He then starts in on the wretchedness of humanity, as if we have not heard that before.  He is incapable of talking about the beauty that surrounds him and that exists in this world. Instead he describes the current state of hte Church of God.

The Church of God is utterly failing-in EVERYTHING!  Never before has the COG been filled with sooooooooooo many problems. Each year that goes by, more and more issues arise.  The COG is getting worse and worse.  Splinter after splinter  arises with more and more self-appointed leaders.

As 2014 arrived, 2013 had brought one proof after another that humanity is utterly failing—in EVERYTHING! Never before has the world been more filled with problems. With the passing of time—and now another year by man’s calendar is upon us—come ever more issues, not less—NEVER less. Existing problems grow collectively worse instead of better—all of them. Each day brings new stories of disease, poverty, war and rumors of war, terrorism, crime, crises, violence, natural disasters, hunger, immorality—indeed amorality—religious confusion, oppression, political upheaval and corruption, financial woes, division between and within nations, and so much more. At every turn, man is botching and mangling ALL of his efforts to solve the world’s greatest problems—problems that only the arrival of the KINGDOM OF GOD can solve. No world leader and certainly not any pope can bring this.
 Dave then proceeds to call all the various splinter groups out as blithering morons who are incapable of doing anything as mighty as he is.  No one can be as magnificent and superfantabulous as he is.

The year 2013 was truly like none other for The Restored Church of God! God’s Work is BOOMING—and in almost every category! Yet ALL the organizations (small, medium and large) that formed from the Worldwide Church of God in the wake of the apostasy grew very little or not at all in 2013! In fact many declined in size and income, and in virtually all well-established categories of measuring fruit. (One medium-sized group just imploded, with many of its ministers leaving in recent days.) God is supplying no fruit in their organizations—and since He is NOT leading them, the growth never comes. But The Restored Church of God DOES have the fruit—TREMENDOUS fruit!—that the other organizations lack.

Dave still for some reason refuses to release how many people actually joined up with him.  None of the splinter groups are recording huge loses to him, membership wise.  If he is going by web statistics, then they can be interpreted many different ways, such as what Bob Thiel has done to legitimize his miniscule "work."  Dave has already been proven to be a lair, why should we trust him with statistics?

Dave realizes that most in the various COG's look at him as a complete fool and knows that they will ignore his most vital superfantabulous message. Shame on them!

If you are in the United Church of God (UCG), Living Church of God (LCG), Philadelphia Church of God (PCG), Church of God, a Worldwide Association (COGwa), or any other splinter or sliver that came out of the WCG, this will be among the most important reports you will ever read. But think as you read. So sadly, great numbers of brethren have become content to let their leaders do their thinking for them—and with ETERNAL LIFE at stake! This letter will not help such ill-informed, easily seduced, “obedient” people.

Dennis Muses on the Emperor's New Clothes

Mr. Generalities...
Apostle Pack Dazzles All Others with RCG Growth
but in theology and Biblical understanding perhaps The Emperor With No Clothes?





I can only speak for myself of course but there would be several  burning realities to me that Dave seems to miss and be oblivious to.

1.  Does the Apostle Pack really understand the message of the New Testament and my answer would be no.

Part B.  Does the Apostle Dave understand the history, mythology and politic of the Old Testament and again I would say hardly.

2.  Does the Apostle Pack understand the differences in belief between the Jewish Church under Peter, James and John towards which he tends, and the revolution the self appointed Apostle Paul started to deconstruct that point of view.  My answer is no.  

3.  Does the Apostle Pack understand how foolish it was and still is of him to place himself in the context of the Old Testament as the Joshuah of Zerubbabel fame in Haggai?   My answer is no.  This is foolish and delusional fairytale destroys his message and twists the NT intent 

4.  Does the Apostle Dave understand the politic of the New Testament?  My answer is no therefore he will never get the messages they contain right

5.  Does the Apostle Pack understand that no one on this earth really ordained him an Apostle or even an Evangelist except himself and this makes him an unbroken chain of one .  While the Apostle Paul did the same thing in the NT, it is the very reason Paul was rejected in the Book of Revelation by the Ephesian Jewish Christian Church, which he claims to understand more than any others. (He doesn't)

6.  Does the Apostle Dave have any clue the plan of God is not a mere 6000 years of "human history"?  No he does not.  He's a mere Bible reader and that badly.  Has he ever read a theological journal or studied evolutionary science?  Herbert Armstrong never did and Ted gave away millions of  Theories for the Birds and Whales of Tales only to be found dead wrong in every conclusion.  Numbers mean nothing if the information is bogus

7.  Does the Apostle Dave understand the difference between mythologies, analogies, allegories and midrashic writing?  I don't think so.  Therefore he will literalize things which were never mean what meanings he gives them and thus be inaccurate in his conclusions. 

8.  Does the Apostle Dave and his sheep understand that if he was still selling health foods and vitamins, his year end report would be equally as general and awesome as he compared himself to Whole Foods or Trader Joes?

9.  Doe the Apostle Dave realize that there are Mega Churches all around him that can boast much more in membership locally than he does worldwide?  They also have ten figure incomes and are actually liked by the communities they are willing to serve in.   Nope!  Now if Dave can draw tens of thousands to his local Sabbath Services, that might be different.  But spreading the numbers around the planet to people who probably don't know the man or his ways with those who actually join is a fake church and following.  Like Pasadena, the closer you get to the source, the higher the drama and trauma index and the higher the drop out rate.  Does he really not understand statistics mean absolutely NOTHING spiritually?  Perhaps, as the original "inventor" of the Plain Truth Distribution Program  (not really) he could set his own literature out in public starting in Wadsworth.  I bet I know how that would go.

10.  Does the Apostle Dave realize he is not trained well enough in Biblical studies to tell everyone  the mind of his God?  Sad to say...no.  

The Apostle Dave is , as so many fundamentalist and COG ministers,  a mere Bible reader and never had a serious doubt in their life about the story they have woven in their heads about the mind of God as spoken through themselves.  It will catch up with them in time.

11:  Does the Apostle Dave understand the conflict and turmoil he has caused over the years in his trail of tears?   Nope

12:  Does the Apostle Dave understand that extorting money through threats and promoting false Biblical agendas is wrong?  Does he understand "the Prophecy" is not "on" at all and if he picks it up in the Spring to motivate the brethren it will blow up twice?  Does he believe in "Once burned, twice burned?"

"Jesus" words to the Ephesian Church in Revelation 2 might do here.




These are the words of him who holds the seven stars in his right hand and walks among the seven golden lamp stands. I know your deeds, your hard work and your perseverance. I know that you cannot tolerate wicked people, that you have tested those who claim to be apostles but are not, and have found them false. You have persevered and have endured hardships for my name, and have not grown weary.


Dave to the World:  I am an Apostle

Jesus to the Ephesians/Wadsworthians/Buffalonians/ Rochestarians etc:  "You have tried those who say they are Apostles and are have found them wanting and false..."

Ephesians to Dave Pack:   "No you aren't"

Jesus to Ephesians:  "Well done......"