Saturday, January 25, 2014

Church of God Powder Kegs



Silenced has a great post up about the current state of affirs in COGland and it is NOT pretty!

The State of the COG 2014  It lists the Dead COG's, the Dying COG's and the Powder Kegs. IN addition, there is a great picture of COG Bingo

Part of the post includes this:

Powder Kegs

Philadelphia Church of God: Cult leader Gerald R. Flurry has long suffered ill health and recently collapsed onstage. When he dies, PCG will likely limp onward revering the memory of two “Apostles” — Herbert W. Armstrong and Flurry. What happens after that should be interesting to watch.

Living Church of God: Roderick C. Meredith is not in good health and UCG has already measured LCG’s drapes. LCG only exists to gather around Meredith, the whole reason 80 percent of Global left with him. The loyalty is to him, not to his lieutenants. When he dies, LCG will likely break and scatter and there are already grumblings and defections. We can’t predict when that break will be, since tyranny and longevity seem to commonly be associated. But LCG as an organization is unlikely to have long.

Restored Church of God: David C. Pack experienced a major embarrassment over the false prophecy that the whole COG would rally around him by the end of August 2013. It was so damaging to his image — imagine that for a moment — that he felt the need to give his version of an apology and fall silent. But aside from a failed prophecy, RCG is suffering all of the same symptoms that COGIC did before its recent explosion: malcontent members, ministerial abuses, rumors of members leavings, pastors being fired for challenging Pack, tons of money being spent on ineffective media projects and boondoggles like the cult’s Wadsworth office. What’s more, Pack is actually crazier than Hulme. RCG is not a healthy organization. We’ll give it two years or less before it experiences a major crisis that shreds it.

House of Yahweh: Yisrayl “Buffalo Bill” Hawkins has weathered a lot of self-inflicted storms: a child labor conviction, one of his elders being sentenced for child molestation, bad press and a slew of failed apocalyptic prophecies. But he’s not in prison and continues to run his little Abilene bunker community. HOY continues to be extremely dangerous, and the mixture of crazy, dangerous and a lengthy lull in any news is a recipe for impending disaster. The cult has been increasing efforts in its front group, Peaceful Solution Character Education Incorporated, which is likely to be a recruitment tool. Watching HOY in the coming months might prove wise.

United Church of God: Bottom line: UCG is too big not to fail. It will split again. In fact, “it will split again” should be on UCG camp t-shirts. There are too many variables at play within the largest COG cult, and tensions are set to rise as their third president in five years also fails to spur growth within the church. Like COGIC, it’s pouring money into media projects and seeing nothing out of it, a problem exacerbated by its loss of members, money and congregations when COGWA split. UCG is throwing money into a black hole, even as it somehow attracts a million unique web views a month and no new members. This kind of failure won’t sit well for long before more internal strife breaks out.

Christian Churches of God: The lawsuit-happy Wade Cox hates being mentioned online, it seems. He gets to be in charge of CCG through 2019, and if he does not relinquish power by then, it could lead to major tensions. CCG is also making some disturbing gains in Africa, according to reports. This is a deceptive and vile cult that manages to do a lot of damage despite its meager size.

A Congregation of the Church of God: This tiny little bunker-dwelling cult hides in the deserts of Arizona. Almost nothing else is known about them. That’s kind of scary for anyone in their thrall. It also makes it very tough to gauge their status.

End Time Assembly: Everything we hear about David Nix’s tiny little cult — recently re-dubbed the Church of Covenant Blessings — makes our skin crawl. He micromanages his followers’ lives worse than any current COG leader we’ve heard of. He is spinning some pretty strange doctrines and keeps his handful of congregations extremely small and enclosed. This sect is set to have bad things happen.

Church of God, a Family Community: The newest COG cult was created by the vast chunk of Hulme’s COGIC he jettisoned for defying him. At the moment, its collective of newly-unemployed ministers seem content to focus on greater transparency, less corruption and abuse and more sanity. We’ll see if they will actually practice what they preach — a rare thing in the COG — or prove once again that absolute power corrupts absolutely. It may not be too long until we find out if COGFC — or whatever name it ultimately settles on — keeps making noise.

Friday, January 24, 2014

Bob Thiel: I Am An Ordained Prophet of God and Am Ignored Just Like John the Baptist Was!



Bob Thiel has a long post up today where he quotes an article that Norm Edwards had in the Shepherd's Voice magazine put out by Chicagoland Church of God.

Edward's writes about the history of prophets in the church and in Armstrongism, including the lack of real prophets today.  Need Prophets More Than Prophecy

Armstrongism has always been obsessed with prophecy more than being prophetic.  Prophets are always visionaries who foresee the world ahead.  I do have to hand it to Norm Edwards, because he actually is putting his belief in a kingdom of God into present day existence, where he sees people made whole.  Lives have certainly been touched, enriched and strengthen by Edward's ministry.

PABC currently has 14 guests, though a family of 3 and a family of 4 have told us they may need to come within a few days. It is difficult for homeless families to remain together as the Veterans shelter in Akron does not accept women or children, and the other shelters in Huron, Sanilac and Tuscola Counties do not accept men. Just last week, a man and his son who had been with us for five months found a stable place to go.

PABC has been in operation for 3½ years now. In that time we have housed 242 persons, 96 men, 86 women and 60 children. We have provided 19,124 bed-nights, 9,517 for men, 5,440 for women and 4,167 for children. (the total number of nights that all of the people stayed). We have talked to 125 additional people (more than the 242), whom we either offered to help or for whom we found a better solution. Many times, the fact that a person has a definite place to go for the night allows them to concentrate on less sure, but more long-term solutions.
Now lets get to Bob Thiel's take on prophets.  He claims he is THE prophet.  One that has been specifically ordained by God to be prophet.  Thiel writes:

Norman Edwards once was on the board of directors of the Global Church of God.  He runs the Port Austin Bible Campus and is editor for Shepherd’s Voice magazine.  He is not part of the Continuing Church of God, where, I function its human leader (and am an ordained prophet).
While Norman Edwards and I have long disagreed about aspects of church governance and various matters of doctrine (and I would have suggested a different title, etc. for his article), we both agree that many who are in or claim to be in the Church of God (COG) wrongly do not accept that God has any prophets today.  We also agree that most have severe difficulty to identify one who really is a prophet because of various unscriptural biases and improper criteria that they have.

As Norman Edward’s article points out, it is scriptural to now have prophets according to the New Testament.  But many who truly believe that they live by the word of God have discounted or overlooked what the Bible actually teaches and/or have been influenced by others who have done the same or worse.  The COG has at least one demonstrably true prophet today, yet most in the greater COG world seem to be able to ignore the truth about that, like most ignored John the Baptist and others in their day.
Why Thiel continues to LIE about being ordained is beyond me.  No one in ANY Church of God laid hands upon Thiel and specifically ordained his as a minister or prophet.  Thiel took the prayer of Gaylyn Bonjour who asked for double blessing of God's spirit upon Thiel as if it was an ordination that set him apart from the rest of the apostate COG leaders.  Rod Meredith quickly nailed Thiel for ...his "...self-important, pushy, "know-it-all" attitude."

So shame on you COG members who do NOT see Thiel as a prophet of God!  You have been warned that the church has ONE prophet alive today, and you know who he is, yet you do not believe him!  Shame, shame, shame!