Wednesday, July 16, 2014

The Creed of the Greedy Shepherds




The loot is my shepherd, I shall not work
It maketh me to lie in  green pastures
It leadeth me beside the Riviera waters
It restoreth my bank balance,
It leadeth me in the paths of crookedness for my fame’s sake
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of debt I will fear no evil, 
for my movers and shakers are with me
My Rolexes and fundraising staff, they comfort me
Thou preparest a table before me at a ritzy restaurant in the presence of my executives
Thou anointest my head with hair gloss; my champagne cup runneth over
Surely goodies and Mercedes shall follow me all the days of my life, 
and I shall dwell in my mansion with the tennis court forever.

Norbert Link: Is Bigfoot A Descendant of the Giants and Nephilim of the Bible?



Armstrongism has always had the deep seated need to have all the answers to everything.  WCG produced hundreds and hundreds of booklets and official letters on a myriad of topics.  Members were never expected to think for themselves or do their own research.  A more "educated" pseudo-theologian in Pasadena was supposed to determine the official stance on all topics. The various splinter personality cults of Armstrongism still do this to this day.  Most have done nothing more than plagiarized WCG authored material.

Global Church of God's very own man of all knowledge, Norbert Link,  has come out with a statement that there is a possibility that Bigfoot really exists and that it is a descendant of the giants of the Bible or maybe even the nephilim.


We need to note that the Bible does not say that ancient powerful giants—the “heroes of old,” as mentioned in Old Testament times—were totally extinct and that they all died out. We do read that they were “dispossessed’ from areas which they once inhabited, and that they appeared in subsequent times in other areas. Therefore, can we rule out that “giants,” as described in the Bible, could exist today?

Speculation abounds regarding encounters with tall hairy creatures around the world, which are referred to as Bigfoot, Sasquatch, the Russian “Abominable” Snowman or Yeti. Many consider these stories as mere fabrications and fairy tales, while others believe that not all of the many independent reports over many centuries (some of them highly reliable) could be simply made up.

Some who believe in the accuracy of at least some of the eye-witness accounts conclude  that they might be “demonic illusions”—but even though some “encounters” might very well be of demonic origin, this could not explain all witness accounts and findings (including unexplained huge footprints, hair samples etc.). Others see in them huge ape-like animals, which could be a distinct possibility. Still others view them as missing links between pre-historic men-like creatures and modern men—a totally wrong idea, as humans did not evolve, and therefore, such missing links did not and do not exist.

Still others view them as fully human—modern representatives of homo sapiens, albeit perhaps in a wild, savage and degenerated state. This is also a distinct possibility. Hunters who had alleged close encounters with Sasquatch reported that they were determined to shoot and kill “the beast,” but refrained from doing so, when they looked into its eyes which were perceived to be “distinctly” human.
 Then they bring in "hairy" Easu to get their biblical point of view across:

One might ask how “hairy” creatures could qualify as humans. Even though the Bible does not specifically say that the ancient GIANTS were hairy, it does include a few examples of “hairy” men. For instance, we read that Esau, when he was born, was “like a hairy garment all over” (Genesis 25:25).

The Pulpit Commentary remarks that literally, it says, “‘all of him as a cloak of hair’… the fur cloak, or hair mantle, forming one notion...  the child's body [was] covered with an unusual quantity of red hair…”

Gill’s Exposition of the Entire Bible adds: “his body was all over full of hair, which stood as thick as a garment made of hair…”

Esau’s condition did not change when he grew up. In fact, it increased. He is referred to as a “hairy man” (Genesis 27:11). Gill's states that Esau “was covered all over with hair; as with a hairy garment; so he was born, and so he continued, and no doubt his hair increased.” This condition was so severe that his blind father, Isaac, was tricked in believing that Jacob was Esau, when “skins of the kids of the goats” were placed on Jacob’s hands and on the smooth part of his neck, so that Isaac did not recognize Jacob  (Genesis 27:16, 23).

Then he moves on to "werewolves."

In addition, cases are known of people with the so-called “werewolf syndrome” or “hypertrichosis,” who might even pass on their condition to the next generation. One website describes this condition as follows:

“Hypertrichosis is a rare genetic condition that results in extreme hairiness… There is some speculation that Esau, son of Isaac and twin brother of Jacob, may have had hypertrichosis. He was described in the Old Testament as born covered in red hair, and was referred to as a hairy man by his brother as an adult.”

Life Science reported on June 6, 2011, that “Scientists have discovered a genetic mutation responsible for a disorder that causes people to sprout thick hair on their faces and bodies. Hypertrichosis, sometimes called ‘werewolf syndrome,’ is a very rare condition, with fewer than 100 cases documented worldwide. But researchers knew the disorder runs in families, and in 1995 they traced the approximate location of the mutation to a section of the X chromosome (one of the two sex chromosomes) in a Mexican family affected by hypertrichosis.”
Next Norbert wraps it all up with Bigfoot and the ancient legends of the American Indians; whom we all know to be descendants that walked over the land bridge from Canaan and settled here. Or were they part of the lost 12 tribes?  Only Armstrongism feels they need to have the answer.

Based on all of the foregoing evidence, we cannot exclude the possibility that giants exist today. Some of them could even be hairy people. They could be, but would not have to be, descendants of ancient Canaanite giants as described in the Bible. If they were, this would mean that not all of those ancient giants were totally extinct, but that some might have survived and procreated over the centuries and millennia, and that remnants with a hairy genetic disorder —perhaps known as Bigfoot or Yeti— might still live today in remote wilderness areas and in secluded high mountain terrains.

It is interesting to consider that many sightings of Bigfoot or Sasquatch have been reported in North America (California, Washington, Oregon, Montana, Idaho) and Canada (British Columbia), and that these reports include ancient “legends” told by American Indians. Although many American Indians descended from Tiras, a son of Japheth (one of the three sons of Noah), some historians feel that “Native American” tribes might also be, to an extent, descendants of ancient Canaanites who migrated to North America.

In light of the biblical and historical evidence of very tall people as well as hairy people with genetic disorders, including hypertrichosis, which seems to run in families and for which there is still no known cure, it is not totally unreasonable to assume that mighty and powerful human “giants” known as Bigfoot, Sasquatch or Yeti might exist today in fairly inaccessible terrains in different parts of the world.

Monday, July 14, 2014

Dennis Muses on: Important Closure



Just a short posting to bring some closure to a thread to be found at:


Sometimes we let the hurt, pain and experiences in our life run our life. I certainly have done that myself.   Emotions are the body's reaction to the thoughts of the mind.  For all our differences, we all share and process our experiences with WCG, here on Banned,  as minister, member, family , male, female, children and friends differently because each experience is unique and experienced in their own unique settings.  Reading this site and eventually being invited to help grow it has been very therapeutic for me personally and have been grateful for it.  It got me through some dark times and serious self doubt and pain.  Let's face it, if I can get through the " Former Ministurd" label,  and not take that personally, I can get through anything!  

  It's a journey and a story but we are not our story.  We have a story but it's not our identity.  It's easy, however, to confuse the story of our lives with who we are.  It is a deception but most never see it or journey out of it.  

I won't post the apology given nor my response here, but you can find it at the end of the thread at on the above posting .  It was both encouraging to me and gives me hope that all can progress and keep moving in positive ways along the path to wherever it really goes...  Sure beats getting stuck in the mud for the rest of one's life.

Dennis


Saturday, July 12, 2014

UCG Member Talks About Leaving The United Church of God




Troy Fitzgerald has another great story up from a former COG/UCG member talking about his exit from the cult mentality.  The UCG hierarchy for some reason decided to humiliate him in front of his parents by informing them that Jeff was not tithing to the church.

Jeff describes what it was like growing up in the WCG and watching his parents become very vocal in their opposition of the doctrinal changes in ’95, bolstered by the fact their pastor was also opposed to the changes. He talks about being home schooled and how that lead to his independent thinking and ultimate analysis of church doctrine, which he did secretly, as a young teenager.  He talks about the heartache of watching his teenage friends who had chosen to leave being shunned and ostracized by members in the church and how he relied on his friends for his sanity given his growing state of disbelief in the teachings of the church.

Jeff discusses how the church sent his tithing (donations) records to his parents prompting his mom to confront him about his not contributing for the previous year,  about his ultimate exit from the church and religion at the age of 21, and how his relationship with his family — all of whom still remain in the church — has evolved. He opens up about the emotional turmoil and heartbreak, years later, watching his mother succumb to cancer all the while resisting modern medical treatment and how the church practiced the avoidance of medical intervention (faith healing) despite the unspoken policy not being official doctrine. Finally, he offers his advice to others having doubts about their faith.

Listen to Jeff's interview here:    Coming Out of UCG

Have We Witnessed the Melt Down of Another COG Leader?


Over the last couple of years we have all had a front row seat to the mental break down of three narcissistic COG "leaders", Bob Thiel, David Pack and Eric King.  Thiel has come up with some of the most inventive excuses to legitimize his standing as the true end-time prophet.  David Pack is in hiding after his HUMILIATING prophetic failures in October of 2013 and April of this year.  King has also joined in this very visible melt down.

Eric King had been smothering the Internet for several years now with his prophecies, silly predictions and pseudo-biblical interpretations.  He claimed he was the TRUE end time leader of the remnant COG that held on tot he truth.

His web site and blog are now dark and no longer carry a witness to the nations or the Church of God.  His web site and blog was carrying the moniker of a different administrator once King came out as a beatnick.

The only thing left of his is his beatnik page where he plays guitar and sings.  Perhaps he has reached his true calling now and will give up the religious Armstrongite malarkey.

I doubt many COG leaders would have this on their page either: