Restored Church of God Turmoil: Dave Pack"s Son-in-law and Daughter Resign From RCG

Since Dave Pack started building his most superfantabulous Church of God ever, he constantly talks about how united his members and leadership are.  The problem is, like the rest of the Churches of God, Pack is loosing ministers and members every time he opens his mouth.

You know things are bad in Wadsworth when Pack has to fire his own daughter!  Now he has alienated not only his boys, but now his daughter!

I just heard from a RCG source that Dave fired his number two man Kevin Denee and his own daughter that's married to Kevin.  (It's also being said that they both resigned, so waiting for verification)

Kevin was the Director of Operations at Dave Pack's superfantabulous compound in Wadsworth, located between the Giant Eagle and the smog belching freeway. 

In March of 2012, Dave Pack promoted Denee to be Dave's right hand man as the Executive Director of the RCG. He was Dave's hand picked leader "born for the job" and "absolutely trained to carry out these duties."  That train has obviously crashed and burned!  Dave failed to see this coming!  

You have or soon will hear more about the following in a sermon to be played in all congregations on March 10. There has been a fairly significant restructuring in the Work at Headquarters. In order to free up my time to carry out my commission further (from the same need for day-to-day, hands-on administrative involvement), Mr. Kevin Denee will now serve under me as the Executive Director ofOperations of the Church and its Work. Mr. William Behrer will remain in the Executive Office and assist him in addition to continuing with 11 departments (for now) still under him. (He recently had 20 departments, we took away 11, but added two more back for now.) Because Mr. James Turck will be returning to Headquarters on April 1 to assist with the ever-increasing Church Administration workload, Mr. Denee will be able to continue as Director of Church Administration without having to spend the same amount of time. Every member of the Advisory Council of Elders agreed that this was the best way to structure Headquarters moving forward, and it will give me more time to fulfill my commission. With no exceptions, they all felt that Mr. Denee was "born to the job." He has been in the office for over nine years, and is absolutely trained and able to carry out these duties. A number of other appointments have been made, with others to occur over the months to come. All of this is in preparation for the Work being able to greatly expand as I will describe momentarily.  RCG Member/Co-worker letter

Kevin Denee's fame has extended far beyond the hyperbole of the RCG.  He became the laughing stock of the internet when he said that  RCG youth and members should not do blogging.

Here's a truly moronic article from the Restored Church of God Ambassador Youth site. The author, Kevin D. Denee, seems to think it's OK for him to use the Web to express his opinion, but other people -- both children and adults -- should not. Nearly every sentence in this schoolmarmish screed is funny. Restored Church of God says blogging is wrong (excluding their own blog, natch)

Kevin wrote:

Let me emphasize that no one — including adults — should have a blog or personal website....
The Internet—and more specifically blogs—has enabled everyone to have a voice on any matter. Now everyone’s thoughts are “published” for all to see. Whether or not it is effective, as soon as something is posted the person has a larger voice. It often makes the blogger feel good or makes him feel as if his opinion counts—when it is mostly mindless blather! 

Blogs can be summed up as people talking about almost anything, but really nothing. There is no purpose to much of the contents — no direction. [...] The contents of blogs can often best be described as trash and the expression of shallowness. What is deemed as a higher level of communication is simply a mindless form of entertainment.
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Some questions naturally arise: “Can I have a photo gallery?” For example, maybe you visited an exotic country and want to share your photos with close friends. This can be done, but certain guidelines apply. Of course, there should never be any inappropriate pictures (again, be careful of the appearance of evil); it should be private and password protected, and only shown to family and closest friends. Tis

 This is what he said youth and members should be doing instead of blogging:

Take extra care if messaging or “chatting” on the Sabbath. It should be done in moderation, as this is a time to draw close to God. Do not drift into worldly topics. Be aware of a conversation’s direction, and steer it back into Sabbath-appropriate subjects if necessary. You could discuss last week’s sermon, upcoming Holy Days, changes in world events, announcements about growth in the Church, etc. Challenge yourself! During the week, be mindful of things you may want to discuss with your friends (online or at services). Then when the Sabbath arrives you will have a long list of items to discuss. A great underlying principle of appropriate IM subjects is this: “Would I feel comfortable discussing this subject with my parents? What about with God?”

A previous article on this blog about Denee is here:

Dave Pack in land  battle at new cult headquarters

Then there are these blog sites that mock him for his blogging comments:

An Open Letter to the Teens in the Restored Church of God 

Blogging and Religion 

God Hates Blogs, Journals, Spaces and Some Photo Sharing

UCG: He's Baaaack!!! Old Boy's Network Still In Control

It's 2016 and every single one of the Churches of God are still living in the past as they keep promoting the same men over and over to leadership positions.

Don Ward is back to serve as Chairman of the Council of Elders for the United Church of God.

Wanda and I have devoted our lives to education and service in the ministry in one way or the other. After receiving my first Bachelor's degree in 1961at Delta State University, I taught and coached in the public schools for five years. I started listening to the broadcast in 1962 and sent off for all of the literature that was advertised. I completed the correspondence course and was immediately convicted of the truth. Wanda followed in my steps about six months later and was convicted of the truth. 

In 1967, I became a professor and head baseball coach and offensive football coordinator at my Alma Mater, Delta State University. In 1967, I completed my Master's Degree at the University of Southern Mississippi in 1968. In 1969, we moved to Big Sandy to attend Ambassador College. 

Over the next four years (1969-1973), I earned a Bachelor's Degree in Theology from Ambassador, began teaching classes at Ambassador and completed a Doctor's Degree at East Texas State University.

Since 1973, we have served in various administrative positions at the Ambassador College campuses--along with teaching several different Bible courses. While the college was closed in Big Sandy 1977-1981, we served as pastor of the Big Sandy and Tyler congregations. When the Big Sandy Campus was reopened in 1981, I served as Dean of Faculty, professor of theology and continued serving as pastor of the Big Sandy and Tyler churches until the summer of 1982.   Don Ward

Here's a man who has led a privileged lifestyle while on the dole as a minister in the church.  Forty-three years living as one of the elite of the church with fleet cars, travel expenses, parsonage allowances, free second tithe for free trips at Fest time, and seats of power in various Ambassador  Colleges and COG's as he changed allegiances like a chameleon.  

I guess mistreating members and students, preaching both sides of the fence doctrinally, and betraying the college students who actually believed in him, does have its rewards. He still gets a seat of power in a splinter church, still gets to live off the tithes of members without ever having to get his hands dirty with real work, and gets to look forward to a well funded retirement program.

 

Almost Arrested COG False Prophet Declares He Has "A More Sure Word" When It Comes to Prophecy

What more can be said than to let a lying false prophet of Armstrongism make a fool of himself with his own words:

As far as what can accurately be predicted, we in the Continuing Church of God “have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts” (2 Peter 1:19, KJV).” The Bible is accurate and its predictions can be counted on. Some of those biblical predictions are mentioned in this post.

So there you have it.  All other COG's are mindless morons when it comes to prophecy. Almost Arrested Elisha Elijah Amos Thiel has the only correct interpretation. Bow down at his magnificance.

UCG: The Role of Women in the Media

Beverly Kubik's comments are around the 67 minute mark.

The very idea that these men even have to sit there and debate this shows the absurdities of it all.
Silly women, know you place!

Was He Right?

The various Churches of God are having fits right now over Britain's decision to free themselves from the European Union.

From Flurry, to Pack to Meredith and even the boy's in Cincinnati Church of God leaders are whipping their members into frenzy that England's departure from eh European Union is a sure sign of prophecy that has finally come true for Herbert Armstrong.  Now with England pulling out it gives Germany more empower, and as any good Armstrongite knows, Germany is the big bad meanie that will soon be storming the United States, and Canada killing millions as they string us up on meat hooks and take our youth to Germany and Europe to be slaves for the European elite. This will open the door for the Pope to reunite Europe and begin to wage war on the saints and ultimately Jesus himself.


James Malm, the Chief Pharisees and Judaizer has this to say:

One very serious consequence of British departure will be the probability of other nations following suit and also exiting the EU.  The British departure appears to be the beginning of an unraveling of the present EU system.   

This has been foreseen and Germany, France and certain other nations have already begun to form the core of a new federal Europe system.  Ultimately it will take the intervention of a very impressive miracle working pope to bring about the birth of a new federal European system based on the Holy Roman Empire model.  

 Scripture tells us that when this miracle worker is set up he will visit the Holy Place within 75 days triggering the onset of the biblical great tribulation (Mat 24:14).   

The 75 days comes from the simple subtraction of the 1260 days of the tribulation from the total time that this man functions (Daniel 12:12), being 1,335 days.  This man of sin is set up doing miracles and has 1,335 days to function, after which he is destroyed by the coming of Christ.  Jerusalem being trodden down, including the tribulation and the Day of the Lord lasts for 1,260 days (Rev 11:2, Dan 12:6-7) and ends with the coming of Christ; now subtracting 1,260 from 1,335 days leaves 75 days between the time he is set up doing miracles and the date that the tribulation begins.  

Watch as:   

1.  The regional Mideast wars play out and a peace deal is agreed,  2.  The present EU unravels  3.  A pope is empowered to do miracles [highly probably as quickly as Sep Oct 2017, or within a year or two thereafter] and immediately uses his influence to bring together a new federal Europe of ten nations  4.  He goes to the Temple Mount within 75 days of being set up doing miracles, and the tribulation begins.   

When peace is declared then sudden [unforeseen] destruction will immediately fall on the unrepentant (1 Thess 5:3).  

NO!  There will NOT be any 3 1/2 years AFTER peace is declared BEFORE the tribulation begins!!   

The tribulation will begin immediately [within a day or so] when this son of perdition goes to the Holy Place (Mat 24:15)!  

Almost Arrested Elisha Elijah Amos Bitter Bob thiel has this to say:

While Franklin Graham considers the Brexit vote “at least a temporary setback for” a one-world government,” that is really not the case. Last night, I told my wife (when the initial results showed the REMAIN side winning last night) that a LEAVE vote meant the end was sooner and the REMAIN vote meant that the end (meaning the start of the Great Tribulation) would be later. 

Why? 

Because biblically, the UK was not prophesied to be part of the final Beast power. The UK was never part of the Eurozone, hence its voted for departure from the European Union (EU) does not mean that the Beast’s currency will be derailed. 

The Bible tells the rise of a European Beast power in Revelation 13:1-10. It also teaches that reorganizations will occur in Europe for that to happen: 

12 “The ten horns which you saw are ten kings who have received no kingdom as yet, but they receive authority for one hour as kings with the beast. 13 These are of one mind, and they will give their power and authority to the beast. (Revelation 17:12-13) 

The vote by the UK to leave the EU will get the Europeans closer to a time of crisis that will get Europe to reorganize and fulfill the above prophecy.

This Brexit vote marks a time of change. We are in the time that Jesus referred to as the “beginning of sorrows” (Matthew 24:4-8) and more troubles are expected: 

8 For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be earthquakes in various places, and there will be famines and troubles. These are the beginnings of sorrows.  (Mark 13:8)

Expect to see violent civil unrest in Europe, for a time.

Gerald Flurry's Philadelphia Church of God is crowing:

Herbert W. Armstrong used scripture to show that Britain would leave the EU before I was born, and God’s people have been watching for this exact event ever since. But I’m not going to give you any scriptures here—that isn’t the point. I want you to go read Mr. Armstrong’s own words—words that accurately predicted this day would happen. Go find a map, spread it out on your floor, draw the line, and create an experience with The United States and Britain in Prophecy that will have a real impacton your life—not in a week or a month, but now while Brexit is still fresh in your mind. 

The thing is, this singular moment in history shows that the entire narrative in The United States and Britain in Prophecy is true. Mr. Armstrong said, “This very eye-opening, astounding identity is the strongest proof of the inspiration and authority of the Holy Bible! It is, at the same time, the strongest proof of the very active existence of the living God!”

You see, The United States and Britain in Prophecy was, in large part, a warning. The decline of the Israelite nations that Mr. Armstrong warned about is already in full swing—yet the worst lies just ahead. That book stands as a warning for me, for you, for everyone who was ever in God’s Church, and for the five million people who requested it over the years. The darkest, most intense correction in history is the next step in these prophecies. 

Mr. Armstrong wrote: “Most people, we know only too well, will take this serious warning lightly—put it out of mind—turn to other immediate interests of no importance by comparison! That is why a loving, just, all-wise, all-powerful God is going to take away from them these unimportant counter-interests, and apply such intensified correction that they shall, finally, come to their senses, and turn to Him and His way which will bring them eternal happiness and abundant blessings! 

“But you need not have to suffer this intensified correction, greater than any trouble ever suffered by humans. 

“By God’s direction and authority, I have laid the truth before you! To neglect it will be tragic beyond imagination! To heed it will bring blessings, happiness and glory beyond description! 

“The decision is now yours!”

Dave Pack has a brief statement up encouraging readers to request his US and BC book to learn the full facts:

In addition, analysts predict that Britain’s departure from the EU would push Germany to take on a more dominant position in Europe. 

None of this news should come as a surprise for regular readers of The Real Truth. We have always held the belief that a UK-EU divorce was coming and informed readers to watch for an emerging Germany. 

The July 2015 article “Britain and the EU: Headed for a Split?” included a telling quote from Mr. Cameron taken from a speech on the in-out referendum: “I know that the United Kingdom is sometimes seen as an argumentative and rather strong-minded member of the family of European nations. 

“And it’s true that our geography has shaped our psychology. 

“We have the character of an island nation—independent, forthright, passionate in defense of our sovereignty. 

“We can no more change this British sensibility than we can drain the English Channel.”
It is this sensibility—Britain’s national character—that has kept the country from fully integrating with the EU. But that character runs deeper, and carries a longer history, than most realize. 

Living Church of God is trotting out John Oqwyn's nonsense:

Catastrophic economic and social collapse will set the stage for soon-coming prophesied events. The once-powerful British Empire is already but a shadow of its former glory, and the U.S.—beset by economic, political and social upheavals—is no longer unchallenged as a world superpower. There was a time when God indeed used the American and British-descended nations to lead, inspire—and even to police—the world. But that time is quickly drawing to a close. Nations that use the name of God while rejecting His commandments cannot continue to receive His blessings. Rather, He will break the pride of their power (Leviticus 26:19).

To fill this vacuum of leadership, there will suddenly emerge onto the world scene a powerful and charismatic leader in Europe. In alliance with a religious leader who will ignite an emotional mass hysteria through what the scripture terms “lying wonders” (2 Thessalonians 2:9), this military-political leader will use deceit to achieve great power. He will lead a revived Holy Roman Empire, called in Scripture “Babylon the Great” (Revelation 17; 18).

This European union of church and state will promise universal prosperity and will exercise worldwide economic dominance for a short while. Ezekiel 27, using the figure of the ancient commercial city of Tyre, speaks of this global economic combine, which will include nations of Europe, Africa, Latin America, and Asia—along with Israel and Judah (v. 17). Portions of Ezekiel 27 are paraphrased or quoted in Revelation 18 where the end-time system, called Babylon the Great, is described.

The English-speaking nations will not prosper for long in connection with this system, however. In fact, they will ultimately be overpowered and destroyed by it militarily. Prior to military attack and occupation, devastating weather problems, combined with internal civil strife (“tumults in her midst” cf. Amos 3:9) will bring our nations to the point of internal collapse.

All any of this proves is that even a blind squirrel can eventually find its nuts.




See:

Herbert W. Armstrong's 209 False Prophecies