Gerald Flurry: Follow MY government and God will grant you miracles

Ron Fraser has an article up on the PCG web site that discusses "miracles."   Like any good COG leader Fraser and Flurry declare that miracles will ONLY happen in their specific COG.  Miracles never occur outside any church that does not declare its self "Philadelphian."

By contrast, Gerald Flurry declares of the Philadelphians, comparing them to Elisha’s students who witnessed God’s many miracles, “God has given this Church so many miracles! I believe that with our increased understanding, God holds us more accountable than He did those students of Elisha. They didn’t have near the truth that we have. God has opened so many doors for this work!” (The Former Prophets). 

Mr. Flurry then clearly articulates the reason why the Philadelphians are the recipients of God’s miracles: “Realize, if you’re loyal to God and submit to His government, He will perform miracles for you—great and small. … Any place where you find God’s family government, you will find many inspiring miracles! … If you’re backing God’s Work, you can expect miracles, because they will happen!” (ibid).

So there you have it.  If you are LOYAL to Flurry then God will bless you.  Blessings only come if you are following church government.  Jesus nowhere mentions that, but that has never been an issue in the COG.

Of course it must be taken into account that most church members will NOT experience many miracles.  Most of that is reserved for the ministry.  They are to EXPECT miracles due to the fact they are a minister in the one and only true church.

God knows His creation. He knows we need a clear vision as to the direction we should follow to fulfill our reason for being—our incredible human potential. To this end He declares, “Where there is no vision the people perish.” Knowing this, God gives enlightened vision to His true ministers. As our pastor general has taught, “Philadelphia ministers must expect miracles” (Malachi’s Message).

Any minister of God truly worth his salt lives in daily expectation of miracles! Such a minister is not occupied with snooping around people’s lives seeking to dig up their sins. He lives to teach, counsel and instruct God’s precious sheep in how to overcome their sins and then fully expects the miracle of conversion that comes to any truly repentant sinner! 

Since when has the PCG NOT snooped in peoples lives?  Just look at the miscreant Cal Culpepper.  He is a prime example of a snoop that is so nasty that he has led people to commit suicide!

Jesus Christ’s method of ministry is one in which ministers serve “those who obey God (and the world, through God’s Work). God’s family government doesn’t go around looking for people’s faults and sins. God’s leaders search for ways to serve the people! That is God’s law of love” (Gerald Flurry, God’s Family Government). 

Apparently serving members is telling them to cut off contact with their adult children who are not part of the PCG.  That is really serving God!

Fraser is delusional if he believes the ministry of the PCG is not be snooping around members lives.

Graceless religion cannot and will not produce any miracles.  Death and destruction is its only reward.

Letter to the Members of LCG

Guest article by John AC Forster 

To members of the LCG.

I am one of the commenters on this site. I consider myself part of the body of Christ, being baptized in 1976. I spent about 15 years with WCG before waking up and seeing the truth about the sinfulness of the organization. I then spent a year with CGI until they as well proved that their organization was just a business like WCG. Since that time I have studied and read many an article from several cogs. In each of them I have found bits of truth mixed with a lot of error. With due diligence I discovered that HWA was not all he was put out to be.

I learned that when god revealed a doctrine to him, it meant something totally different to us. To us, it mean that God put it  in his mind, that it came from God personally. In truth, HWA got his truths from the books of other religions while researching at the public library. HWA didn't outright lie about this, but he didn't remove the misconception either. With study on my own, I discovered that the basic truths (Sabbath, Holy Days, Heaven, Hell, etc) were right. Most of the rest were opinions, some of which were minor errors and others were down right wrong. HWA was no prophet. He has over 200 failed prophecies under his belt. So many failed prophecies that he had to run away to California to start all over his church.

As the years went by, the sins of HWA were been revealed one by one. His worse one was having sex with his own daughter for over 10 years. This has been confirmed by many of his family members. All of his family members deserted him. Not what one would expect from one being put forth as the present day Elijah. Overall HWA accomplished the task of preaching the gospel to the world. Yahweh did use his unrelenting ambition to accomplish this task, but HWA was no man OF God. A good study for you all can be gained by studying Zech.Chapters 11 to 13, especially (Zec 11:15 - 17)  

Zec 11:15 And YAHWEH said to me, Again take to yourself the tools of a foolish shepherd.

Zec 11:16  For, lo, I will raise up a shepherd in the land; he shall not visit those who are cut off, nor will he seek the young, nor will he heal that which is broken, nor will he sustain that which stands. But he shall eat the flesh of the fat, and tear off their hoofs.

Zec 11:17  Woe to the worthless shepherd who abandons the flock! The sword shall be against his arm and against his right eye. His arm shall be completely withered, and his right eye shall be totally darkened.

HWA deserted the flock by flying around the world for about a year proclaiming a strong hand from some place, and never the name of Christ. He and his ministers never tried to help those disfellowshiped, neither attended to their needs, but instead lived high off the hog (ate the flesh of the fat), and robbed them blind of their money leaving them with little to stand on (tearing off their hoofs).

Yahweh told us that He would raise up such a man. WHY? Because it would force people to make a decision of whether they would follow Him, or a man. It was a test of character. A brutal test that shook the entire church. A test by fire. Many forsook their duty and decided to wait and let God work it out. They did not realize that Yahweh was expecting them to get off the fence and decide whose side they were on.

Some never made any decision until 1995 when they were confronted up close to bail out of the WCG. Many became scattered as you can read in the above chapters. While you are reading/studying this, note that Yahweh was going to perform yet another test, by removing His sheep/flock from the ministries that sprang up. Yahweh is totally angry by what the hirelings have done to His sheep. The abuse, the high living style and the totally disdained attitude of those that were to be examples to the flock. 

If you are still members of these organizations of men, come out of them, no longer remain a tithe slave to those that are biblical exempt from receiving tithes, as they are NOT Levities. The NT assembly was to exist on offerings and not tithes, especially 3 tithes. Only 1 tithe was expected under the OT, but it had 3 purposes. No wonder so many of you are broke and cannot provide for your families. This is a grave sin unto you.

In conclusion I write the above in love and concern for you lost sheep. Hope that you see your way through this mess.

John AC Forster

Why Are LCG Camp Attendees Being Forced to Fast?

Please ask Rod Meredith why the kids have to suffer because of him...

What kind of a narcissistic monster makes kids, who are psyched about camp, fast to "beg God" for a favorable ruling in the LCG lawsuit? Because we all know that that is what the fast is for.

Many kids... most kids, in LCG wait for camp all year long. It is a highlight for these kids, many of whom are homeschooled and have limited social interaction other than with other LCG kids.

They have nothing to do with the trouble the corrupt LCG leaders have gotten the church into. Why make them fast? Fasting is utterly meaningless unless it's a personal decision. And even then, the goal should be to draw near to God and to relinquish self will and submit to God's will. "Begging God" is silly and futile.

I feel sorry for all those kids who are being forced into this insanity for no purpose. I'm sure it will ultimately drive them away from Armstrongism even faster than they will like go in the first place. Comment from this thread

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LCG Fast: Will It Actually "...clean us up and scrub us out, spiritually..."

Rod Meredith has a letter out, Cry Out and Seek God, that attempts to justify his church-wide fast for the end of this month.  After citing numerous Old Testament men who claim they fasted in order to get right with their God, Meredith has this to say.

Brethren, I have now been full time in the Work of the ministry since my graduation from Ambassador College back on June 4, 1952. After all those decades of experience and “seeing” how God has worked and is working, I tell you urgently: we now are at a time when we need to seek God just as those servants of God did in the past. We are stricken with a kind of a “malaise” that makes us lukewarm and has no doubt kept God from pouring out His Spirit upon us with a power to heal the sick, discern spirits and cast out demons which we ought to have! We need to fully realize this!

Each of us needs to beg God—on our knees—to collectively clean us up and scrub us out, spiritually, so that we may be worthy of the gifts of His Spirit just as the early New Testament Church was. Brethren, we are not asking for something “unusual.” For it is exactly what God did do with the early Church to show His power and help the world understand where He was working, so they would respond and more people would be added to the Church. He worked with them in a powerful way so His Work could grow in power at that time.

Once more it is all the membership's fault.  Meredith and no one at the Charlotte HQ is taking any responsibility for the sorry state of the LCG right now.  Meredith cannot take any responsibility because he is the most loyal man the Church has ever had in it's midst since he graduated. For 64 years now Meredith has been the most sinless leader that God has ever used.  If God has been using him for sooooooo long, and he is sooooooo sinless, then why is the church in suuuuuuuuuuch a mess now?  Why did he run off at the mouth and is now getting sued for it?

Meredith lays the blame at the membership's feet and attempts to guilt them into fasting.  If they do NOT, then the LCG ministry will NEVER witness to the world, bring in new members who will give more money for a final push. That is what it boils down to.

LCG members are physically backed up, reminiscent of HWA blaming members for Loma Armstrong's blocked colon, and need to scrub themselves clean because THEY are dirty.  Not the leadership mind you; for they are righteously clean. They are after all, Levites.

If the membership clean themselves out, scrub themselves up, and get out of their "spiritual malaise" then Rod and crew can go around healing the sick and casting out demons.  It's the members fault they cannot do that now.  You can be guaranteed that no member will be allowed to go around healing the sick and casting out demons.  If they can't even gather together for Bible Study in their own homes how will they be allowed to heal the sick and cast our demons?

Also, as many of us ought to carefully read and meditate on, even before the Spirit-led New Testament Church actually began, Jesus appointed “seventy others also” to go out across Israel and preach the Gospel, heal the sick and cast out demons. Nothing indicates these were converted men—since the Holy Spirit was not even given until the Day of Pentecost. Obviously, they were not the twelve apostles, as they were called “seventy others,” and no mention is given of the apostles. Jesus commanded these men to go out and preach the Truth, “And heal the sick there, and say to them, ‘The kingdom of God has come near to you’” (Luke 10:9). Later, we find, “Then the seventy returned with joy, saying, ‘Lord, even the demons are subject to us in Your name.’ And He said to them, ‘I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.Behold, I give you the authority to trample on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall by any means hurt you. Nevertheless do not rejoice in this, that the spirits are subject to you, but rather rejoice because your names are written in heaven’” (vv. 17–20). So they were also able to “cast out demons” in the name of Jesus Christ.

Then Meredith warns LCG members to not doubt or ridicule him or the church, because if they do, they could be struck down just like Ananias and Sepphira.  Meredith just cannot stand rebellion, just as long it is not he himself who is doing it, then its ok.

As the original Church of God—under the apostles’ faithful leadership—began to do the Work, notice how God reacted after He was forced to strike down Ananias and Sapphira for their obvious cynicism and rebellion against His leadership: “So great fear came upon all the church and upon all who heard these things. And through the hands of the apostles many signs and wonders were done among the people. And they were all with one accord in Solomon’s Porch. Yet none of the rest dared join them, but the people esteemed them highly.And believers were increasingly added to the Lord, multitudes of both men and women” (Acts 5:11–14). Notice that it was after God began to intervene with “signs and wonders” that great numbers were added to the body of Christ, “multitudes of both men and women.”

Like Dave Pack, Meredith assumes "multitudes of men and women" will soon be added to his church.  He should learn from Dave Pack's epic failure.  It WON'T happen!

Meredith's world has been falling apart at the seams for decades.  Now it is on the verge of utter collapse and its time for him to cry out.  Of course that cant be done because the members are not doing enough or giving enough for that to happen.  They have no yielded themselves

Do you begin to realize the “signs of the times” in which we are living? Will you then join me in crying out to God so that we in this Work may be given the power of God’s Spirit as never before?

Brethren, I hope that all of you will. For, to the extent that you yield yourself to God and beseech God to send Jesus to live His life within you (Galatians 2:20), you will be part of the body that is going to do a powerful Work before the end of this age and you will be rewarded forever—as we all know—because you have been willing to “turn to God” at a critical time in human history.

How can Meredith and the LCG invite Jesus to "live his life within them" when they ignore him?  Giving him lip service on Passover and a few times a year is not letting Jesus live within them. 

It's interesting that Meredith next quotes Galatians 2:20, but very conveniently leaves out Galatians 2:19, 21.

Galatians 2:20-21The Message (MSG)

19-21 What actually took place is this: I tried keeping rules and working my head off to please God, and it didn’t work. So I quit being a “law man” so that I could be God’s man. Christ’s life showed me how, and enabled me to do it. I identified myself completely with him. Indeed, I have been crucified with Christ. My ego is no longer central. It is no longer important that I appear righteous before you or have your good opinion, and I am no longer driven to impress God. Christ lives in me. The life you see me living is not “mine,” but it is lived by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. I am not going to go back on that.

Is it not clear to you that to go back to that old rule-keeping, peer-pleasing religion would be an abandonment of everything personal and free in my relationship with God? I refuse to do that, to repudiate God’s grace. If a living relationship with God could come by rule-keeping, then Christ died unnecessarily. 

Law keeping and peer pleasing religions is all that Armstrongism has been over the decades.  The church abandoned grace and is now paying the price.

The LCG fast will NOT accomplish a single thing other than making a large group of people hungry.