Dave Pack: If You Are Part of RCG and Faithful, You WILL Be Saved

It is comforting to know that salvation only exists in the most superfantabulous Church of God splinter group to ever have been formed.  Only its most superfantabulous leader can make this claim. No other Church of God group is able or bold enough to make the the claim that...

For the moment, I want all of God’s people around the world to understand something. It is fundamental, and it speaks directly to why not a hair of a faithful member’s head can be lost in the years ahead…how will God protect His people?

Lets all pack our bags and move to Wadsworth!  Who needs Pella and Petra which are over-rated by the lunatic fringe of the Church of God, Wadsworth is where the action is at!  Besides, there is a great big lots store across the street we can shop at as the invading armies traverse the freeway on the other side of the holy compound!

Because tens of thousands of COG  members will have flocked to Wadsworth to sit at the feet of the holy one to be reeducated, they will be so special that people will literally flock to be at their side, because they have God's protection written all over them.

“And I will encamp about My house…” (Zech. 9:8) and He gives several reasons in the rest of the verse…but just stop for a moment. God says He will camp around His house… The one being referred to there, directly, is the coming temple, the House of God. But, we are the Temple of God now—we are the House of God now, as well as Jerusalem above. Try to imagine that God says a building—or a small mountain—is more important than a building of living stones.

Brethren, when you understand this whole prophecy…and it will take me a long time to…it doesn’t mean there won’t be persecution. There will be some persecution. But you will be amazed at how many people will want to be associated with you…when I show you from the Scriptures…because you are part of this. There is no way God would not “camp round about.” I can show you in the psalms that He does that. He camps round about the camp of the saints.

There is no way in the world God is going to add spiritual Jews—converting the house of Judah and bring it to a fractured spiritual house, bring it to a fractured spiritual Judah, where spiritual Jews are, whose hearts are circumcised. He has to…and this is one of the connections, again, between Bands and Grace…He has to unify His spiritual house. Meaning, many more thousands will immediately come into a situation where they won’t even know all these verses. They will have to learn them, and God is going to have to put a wall of fire and camp around about them, as well.

So I wanted us to all be absolutely clear. This prophecy—stunning as it is—has wonderful news inside it in that regard. Though it doesn’t mean that we are going to hop on a carpet and take a magic carpet ride. It is always difficult.  

I don't think there is a need to worry about "magic carpets."  With Dave I think it revolves around those "magic mushrooms" he has been smoking.  No rational mind could come up with all of this unintelligible nonsense!

Dave then moves on to why he was sent to New York City to serve as a WCG pastor many years ago. Again, Dave has to make this all about himself.  He was sent there so he could be around Jewish people so that the can better learn how to reeducated them,  when he is appointed by his creature he calls "jesus," who will be completing his ministry for 3 1/2 years, in the most superfantabulous temple to ever be constructed!

I will just say, I understand why I served in New York City. There are many reasons…and did so twice. I have worked with and have known a great many Jews. But I have gone to college without  many of them, and I have seen them in the Work of God…not very many, because primarily, God was not calling Jews, until He does it all at once. I don’t know if we have any physical Jews in the Church. I am descended from David, so how that’s counted is kind of interesting…Paul was a Benjamite, but reared as a Jew, and so forth.

Of course Dave has to bring in the British Israel mythology and designate just who the Jews are that he is talking about.

God works with the House of Judah, by the way, not the land of Judea. God is going to save Judah. Most Jews don’t live in Judea. So you think of the terms, you have Judea where the Jews lived, you have Judah, either the original man named ‘Judah’ or all those called the “house of Judah” who came from him who are individually called “Jews,” who today practice a religion called “Judaism.” So you have to sort out those things out and that will help you. When God works with the house of Judah, meaning Jews, not the Jews that live in Judea, the implications are awesome when you consider most Jews don’t live in Israel. What does that mean? I am planting a seed… but you will find that it has awesome implications. So of course, God could not ever bring many from physical Judah into a fractured spiritual Judah… a reason that both occur together……

Next, SuperDave tells his members just how SPECIAL he is.  He is at a level that other COG ministers have never attained.  No minister in the Church of God is as knowledgeable or set apart as as he is.

Because once the code’s broken, brethren…this man who’s been studying prophecy for 50 years up here…Next June, it will be 50 years I’ve studied it, and learned it, and buried myself in it more than any man who has ever lived. I know that, and I’ve said it. I happen to know that whoever is in this position would have to be that way, and there are various reasons. I’ve explained it. Until God breaks certain codes, vast areas are locked out of understanding that in these weeks we’re going to see. For instance, nobody could see verses that were screaming obvious about the House of God being built in Jerusalem this side of the Tribulation. Nobody could see... I couldn’t…that God saves Judah first and that doesn’t just mean deliver them—it includes salvation. 

Then Dave sets about PROVING that he is Zerrubbabel:

The message suggests that this man should trust God, not human forces or armies, power or might, but His Spirit…It’s interesting. The greatest mountain on earth at that time, back when the second temple was being built, was on their side. He wasn’t resisting Zerubbabel. This is a Zerubbabel that is resisted by a great mountain, not assisted by one, as Cyrus and Darius did. See the difference?

One of the problems, Mr. Armstrong never, a single time, ever attempted to explain…who the great mountain was, I never heard him do it, that resisted him. He never did. He just left it alone. He never tried to explain the headstone/grace-grace thing. And remember “finish” can mean “break off,” so, it could have an application to Mr. Armstrong. With the spiritual house, Mr. Armstrong’s hands didbreak off 30 years ago. But God, in His infinite wisdom, picked a word that can mean “finish,” or “break off” because you’re finished. Mr. Armstrong broke off—but also, this Zerubbabel will finish the house, because it has to get done, and that’s the amazing thing. Go back, and review the word “finish.”

Super Dave then needs to reinforce his ties to Herbert Armstrong.  No legitimate COG leader can exist without training at Herbert's feet:

…If you think I’m ascribing too much to Mr. Armstrong, well then, that’s what I’m doing. I worked with him. I knew him. He was unique of all human beings I ever knew by far. He just was. People are going to have to learn he was Moses. Moses towers out of Scripture like Everest. He was a type of this Zerubbabel, a governor of spiritual Judah. I don’t doubt that, but he also led a royal priesthood. His signature is on both of my ordinations. Now, we weren’t priests; but yet, brethren, all of you are part of a royal priesthood. All of you are in training to be kings and priests. Is it a stretch to believe?..... 

Dave then goes into great detail on how his god will gather in all the Jews from around the world so that they will be protected and reeducated at the new temple where his creature he calls "jesus" will be ruling.  It is a long convoluted mess of facts and fantasy.

Read it here: The Greatest Story Never Told, Part 4

Dave Pack: I am restoring the greatest things in the Bible!

Dave Pack has releases sermons 3 & 4 now the are supposed to  make clear to a the disaffected COG members out there in LaLa land that Dave is God's most superfantabulous mouthpiece.

Dave's secret hidden knowledge that he is reveling is that a 3 temple will be built in Jerusalem where his creature called "jesus" will come.  Dave will be the first to walk up the steps of the new temple to shake Jesus' hand and welcome him back to earth.  This reign of his creature "jesus" will be BEFORE the tribulation.  After it reigns for 3 12 years it will start some major whup ass on the world.  Dave and his rapidly dwindling flock will then be in place to reeducated the survivors into the "truth" retires by Dave.

He would know that we would have a host of questions. I do. I am sure you do. For a while, as I continue preaching more things to you, I will actually open as many questions as I answer. However, it is my job to teach this great understanding. It becomes, in many regards, a restoration of among the very greatest doctrines in the Bible—that only begins with the fact that God is going to build this great house—even greater than Solomon’s wonderful house, built to God…or “wonderful great” house as he called it in Chronicles.

So a doctrine—a great doctrine—that was known and taught in the first century is going to be restored today. In many regards, other than in the first century, this is the greatest story never told since or until now. Once it is explained, we will say, it is soon to be one of the greatest stories ever told. It is the greatest story never told to the New Testament Church since the first century. God has broken an unbelievable, powerful code. I am going to drown you in verses proving what I am going to tell you, but I wanted to say at the outset some corrections of things we thought we understood. I am coming up on fifty years in the Church and there are things we wrestled with. For instance: When is the last three and a half years of Christ’s ministry? I will throw that one out there, because I am going to tell you later…But there are things we wrestled and wrestled with. 

Dave wants his flock to know that his knowledge far exceeds anything Herbert Armstrong knew or restored.  When you think about tit, that is not a hard thing to do.  HWA had what is considered to be the equivalent to a year of freshman bible.  Six months spent in a public library, that has slim pickings on theological books, does not make one a theologian. Nor does being trained at the feet of such a man.

I have told you about things Mr. Armstrong wrestled and wrestled with, and things that he had absolutely no chance to understand previously. Neither did I—or anyone—until God simply turned the screw and broke codes, and opened up things so awesome that you can’t really begin to imagine that they are in the Scriptures—never mind anticipate them. One would be—and it introduces so many others—that God is going to build this great house in Jerusalem.

The reason Dave's creature needs to come back is because Dave claims it needs 3 1/2 more years to complete its ministry.   Apparently what Jesus accomplished on the cross was not enough, at least for this thing Dave calls "jesus."

Dave's creature is going to come to Jerusalem to save the Jews first.  All other nations will have to sit there an twiddle their fingers as they suffer great calamities while this creature plays with the Jewish people.  They will be prohibited from coming to Jerusalem.  Once the Jews are saved and the rest o humanity has suffered, then they will have a chance.

Now that is an astounding thing. He will save the tents of Judah first. The Bible talks about Israel and the other tribes. This is Judah. We ought to examine “first.” It means “in order.” It can mean “in place…or rank,” but it means in order. If somebody runs in a race and you say they came in first, nobody doubts what that means. So if you say that you are going to save the tents of Judah first, first you must understand the meaning of “first” before we can go on. You are left with an incredible question. It is inescapable, and it is life-changing in every regard. There are two possibilities. I’m going to show you the Bible is filled with that statement, but for now, we are left with—what does it mean? There are two possibilities.

Number one: It means at the outset of the Millennium, for some years, Christ returns in glory, and He starts working with Judah first, and tells the rest of the nations, “Don’t come to Jerusalem for several years, because I’m going to work with the Jews first. Now…I’m going to hit you with droughts and plagues, and you are going to die, if you don’t come to Jerusalem, but…come to think of it, I am going to do that, and I don’t really want you here, because I am going to save Judah first. That will take years!” Imagine now…You have all the nations of the world…and He tells them, “Back off. Sit down and twiddle your thumbs for years, because I am going to save Judah first”… or, you are left with only one other option—I’m going to save the nation of Judah way before the Tribulation as we’ve understood it in the past.

In order to build this new temple there needs to be skilled craftsmen and loads of supervisors.  Two guesses as to whom the supervisors will be....

You might even stop and think for a moment. In order to build the second temple, you needed two prophets, Haggai and Zechariah; you needed the high priest, Jeshua, who is later called Joshua; you needed a Jewish governor, named Zerubbabel, to build a very small house with a third as many people working on it, a little over half as long as Solomon’s…and you needed them all to live in Jerusalem to do it, with 50,000 Jews helping. Right? So, we’re going to see a greater house than Solomon’s, which needed 153,600 and 3,600 supervisors…… 

The question that needs to be asked is why did God not reveal to HWA all of this truth when he restored the "truth" after it had been lost for 1,900 years?  What is it just now being revealed.

Well, Superfantabulous Dave has the answer!

Now, by the way, here or any other time is no better than another…Why would God wait so long to tell us this great element of Bands, and how Christ is coming also to a physical temple? Why wouldn’t He tell us that years ago? Here’s why. We would have been dismissive of all the dualities. We would have never considered all the elements of the spiritual house. We would have missed all of it—all of the last three years. We would have of just bounded right over that, and just been thinking about Judah and the physical temple, and so forth. We wouldn’t have understood it.

Dave has this to say about Herbert Armstrong:

Now, nobody is weak or stupid because we didn’t understand this. Mr. Armstrong is one of the greatest human beings, I think, in many ways, who ever lived. I’m going to show you again, by the way, I think his role was even greater than we thought. He was not Elijah, he was Moses. That’s greater—my opinion. I don’t know what he would say, but that’s what I would say. I’m going to show you his role was greater in another way, a little later on. I hope I have time to get to it today. If not, I guess we wait a week. 

You can read this convoluted mess here:  The Greatest Story Never Told, Part 3

Non-COG Group Claims Petra As Their Own Place Of Safety. Bob Thiel and James Malm Devastated

Most of the major COG groups are suffering major butthurt after they found out that a non-COG related group is advertising Petra as the Place of Safety.  Bob Thiel and James Malm will be particularly disappointed when they have to submit to different rulers of the area once they get there.

Petra was already presenting an issue to the various COG groups that still preach this nonsense.  UCG, LCG, PCG, RCG, COGWA, and many others all think they will get there first and establish their realms and rulerships.  It is going to be one big snarling cat fight over who will reign supreme.  Now that they've been preempted, it will be particularly interesting.

Yehweh Not Yahweh has set up a nonprofit organization that is organizing a mass exodus to Petra.

♖ PETRA—PLACE of SAFETY is a non-profit organisation that promotes, encourages and hopes to facilitate fleeing from the world to Petra, Jordan, for the Great Tribulation. (Founded by Jane E Lythgoe—Creator of Yehweh.Org.)

♖ PETRA, Jordan is the one-and-only place of safety for the Wise Virgins in the coming 3.5 year Great Tribulation—the rapture is after the Trib.

♖ PETRA is the Place of Safety in the Great Tribulation—the rapture is after the Tribulation. The next flood is the Tribulation and Petra is the next ark. Believers need to go to Judea then Jordan. Petra is the one-and-only place of rescue and nourishment for the believers (not just Jews) in the 3.5 Year Great Tribulation. It's the singular wilderness "place" the spiritually pure woman (living Bride) flees to in Revelation 12 for 1260 days—with Father Yehweh's miraculous help. 

Those who don't go to Petra and don't want to take the Mark of the Beast, will almost certainly be martyred by beheading. Even if they find enough resources to live on for three and a half years they will still be hunted down. Think Hunger Games—except on a huge scale! 

Like the false prophets of Armstrongism, Bob Thiel and James Malm, they claim that the tribulation could start either this year or in 2017.

They are even offering assistance to those that want to flee.

♖ Types of Assistance AvailablePre-Flight Expenses—Passport Costs, Document Costs, Travel Accessories, and More.
Flight Expenses—Flights, Travel Insurance, Travel Taxes, and More.
Post-Flight Expenses—Accommodation, Transportation, Food and Drink, and More.
Support—Physical, Emotional, and Spiritual Support.

It just goes to show that craziness is not confined to Armstrongism.

Don Billingsly Fails Yet Again. Claimed God Told Him Hillary Would Win Election

Has there ever been a more fractured church group on earth that has had more leaders claiming God personally speaks to them than in the Churches of God? After God made that first fatal phone call to Herbert Armstrong and revealed things lost for 1,900 years we have advanced to the various current lairs in the church...Thiel, Malm, Pack, Weinland, Flurry, Meredith, et al.  Nothing any of these little men has ever predicted has ever come to pass.  That leads us to out latest COG liar, Alton Bilingsley.

Billingsley wrote in the July/August Philadelphia Remant Magazine the following about Hillary Clinton:

The Next President—By studying prophecy in view of the news, God has made known to me who will be the new president. He also has made known how much time is left before the Great Tribulation and the demise of this nation and the nations of Israel. If you are interested in knowing whether I am right or wrong, please read my article, entitled “Historical Duality Reveals the Future” 

In September I posted about how Bilingsley also made it known his god told him that Hillary Clinton would be shot while in office, during her second term.

Church of God Faithful Flock“What Are Your Plans for the Next Six Years?” asks CGFF Pastor Don Billingsley, a Church of God elder since the 1950s, in Historical Reality Reveals the Future - as he shows (?) that Biblical history and prophecy point to President Hillary Clinton being executed in 2023, when God’s Elect will flee to the Place of Safety and the Great Tribulation will then begin.  

This will all happen soon after the remnant Church of God folk trot off to Petra for 3 1/2 years of domestic unified bliss. 

Just before famine and the diseases reaches {sic} their most severe point in 2023, Hillary’s sixth year, God’s elect will flee to the first part of their departure to the Place of Safety (cf. Revelation 18:4-5; Jeremiah 51:50). (Billingsley A. Historical Duality Reveals the Future. Philadelphia Remnant, July-August 2016, p. 13)

All of these Church of God false prophets and liars  need to drop the word "God" from their church title and call themselves what they actually are, The Church of Liars.