Dave Pack: There are bastards in the church

“If you endure chastening, God deals with you as with sons: for what son is he whom the father chastens not?” (vs. 7). Welcome to Christianity if you’re feeling chastening. “But if you be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers…[One way or another, God has to get us ready. The faster and the better you learn, the stronger your conviction, then good. But if you don’t]…then are you bastards, and not sons” (vs. 8).

We don’t have to call anybody bastards; but there are bastards in the Church. At some point, they’ll reveal themselves, and in the sense of what God says, you’ll literally say, “You’re a bastard.” Now today, people say, “You bastard!” or whatever they say. You know what I mean. A bastard is just somebody illegitimate. But…you’re illegitimate, you came in here as My son, and I chastened you and you wouldn’t take it. And I’ll say this, for the first phase of the fire…here’s what God will say to him—“You bastard. Get out.” And then it won’t be cursing.

“If you be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are you bastards, and not sons…” and then it talks about, our fathers did it when we were kids: “For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure [and so forth]” (vs. 9).

Now, verse 11: “Now no chastening for the present seems to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto to them which are exercised thereby.” There are going to be some people who can’t take it and it’s going to feel unfair—“This is incredibly hard!”—when this monster comes at them personally. And maybe they watch their wife killed. WOW! Or their husband killed, or however it goes. “This isn’t right!” There are people…The clay starts, you know, talking to the Potter about how He should have done it differently. Be careful…

Dave Pack: I Am So Hot I Am About To Go Viral!

Superfantabulous Dave and the greatest side show on earth today.  No COG minister has ever understood the Bible more completely than Dave does.  More importantly, Dave is the ONLY person alive on the earth today who understands the ANTICHRIST!  He is soooooo amazing that he and his message are about to go viral.  The entire world will soon take notice of him and the Restored Church of God. Wadsworth will have a celebrity in their midst!  How awesome is that!!!!

And I’m going to say what Paul did—because I know what Paul believed was right, in the wrong time setting. I look out and see wars, rumors, commotions of all kinds and I know time is close! And it is my job to proclaim it, because nobody understands Habakkuk or all of the verses. Have you heard anyone else on Earth explain the Antichrist? This horrific monster—no one understands him. One man read plain on the tables—that’s the reading part—and I rushed, I literally preached it at the conference over a year ago, the day I discovered it. And of course, I discovered much, much more and presented it to the Church the day before Pentecost a year ago.

I proclaimed it! And I’ve been doing it and you’re going to find hundreds and hundreds of thousands and millions of people are going to watch this. At some point, it’s going to go viral. We had more good financial news this month, without getting into it, besides the Pentecost offering. That’s not the only good thing that’s happened and we’re only on the 10^th of the month. And a lot of it happened before anybody even heard last week’s sermon, never mind this week.

You know, there’s an old saying, “Go big or stay home.” We’re going big—because we’re not staying home. This thing is ON and as a result, we’re going to proclaim it as loud as we can, but it’s going to get hot and some could be tempted to draw back. The context is it’s going to get hotter and hotter. So, as a result of getting hotter and hotter do you want to draw back so you can get thrown into a fiery furnace, which is the Man of Sin arriving, or the relatively moderate heat…it’s going to be hot for us; it’s going to get hot now, you see? So I leave you to think about this. These are powerful points to understand.

Dave Pack The Bully

We have all witnessed over the years the intense bullying that Dave Pack does towards all those under his command.  From the church members who suffered under him in Akron and other cities where he kept getting transferred, to his members, employees, and ministers of his new superfantabulous Restored Church of God.

We have watched over the years as his group of 16 men from his headquarters rubber stamp all of his actions and prophecies.  None of these men have the testicular fortitude to speak up and confront his lies and abuse.  They sit there and watch members ruin their lives selling homes and possessions in order to send Dave their money.  They sit there as Dave wrecks families and marriages.  They are men with no integrity, ethics, or morals.  They are all spiritually bankrupt.

Pack has on occasion voluntold his minister to receive pay cuts, then tell the Church they are of one heart and mind and are willing to take pay cuts, to disagree means your out of a job. 

Meanwhile, those same ministers afraid to protest the pay cuts, are already struggling to take care of their families. They are endeared to this man. They fear to lose their Jobs as they have already given much up and if they disagree they fear their good character/Personality traits which are all they have left will be completely bashed to the entire church by Pack.  

Pack has laid off huge numbers who sold houses and assets to move and work for the HQ. These people have nothing to go back to, not even family who they completely shrugged off thinking they'd work at HQ until the return of Christ and fix family issues later when their minds would be opened to the truth.  

He personally bullies his ministers and criticizes them for having fine things, especially if he does not have them. He bashes them for having excess. When in reality anything that they get for themselves is not excess but a much-deserved treat considering the huge pay cuts. 

These ministers are not motivated by love to take care of the flock, they are moved by fear of man to correct and keep in line the people.  

If you so much as act like a Berean and at some point question his preachings even as a minister you will see the worst side of him. He occassionaly boasts to the entire church that all of the minister agree with dates he sets or phrophecies he unlocks. He never apologizes for error because to apologize means that he gives people the power to discredit him.
August 25, 2017 at 10:53 AM

Dave Pack: I truly fear for those who don’t sell all that they have. You can’t play games!

Dave Pack needs your retirement money, your IRA, your investments, the money from selling your home, your business, your vehicles, your personal property, and more.  It is all God's Dave's money, anyway.

The book of Revelation…Daniel is unsealed at the time of the end. We actually started unsealing the book over a year before that, 13 months before that. So one of the things I always wondered about…Wait a minute now, Daniel 12:9 and 10 show the book is unsealed, immediately there’s the fire. How many times you heard me say that over and over…there appears to be no gap. Now I understand there is no gap. As a matter of fact, before we finished…because we’re not quite done, even yet…before we finished the unsealing of Daniel, God began to test us.

When you announce this monster’s coming, we’re going to look like lunatics. Nobody believes that! Even the people who believe there’s an Antichrist at all. They’re going to mock and scorn, and it’s going to get hot. And as we throw fuel on the fire and the flames get bigger, you’re going to feel the heat before anybody else does. But the big flames come later, after we don’t feel any more heat at all because we escape. That’s the way it works. You can’t possibly announce this monster, at any powerful level, without taking heat! You know the term: You’re going to “take heat” for that. Well, it’s going to be literal heat in a way. Now, I know it’s figurative heat; it won’t feel like the temperature went up outside. So I would leave you to understand that.

Turn over to Luke 12. Luke chapter 12…and we’ll pick it up in verse 32. Finally, I understand this, Luke 12:32: “Fear not little flock….” Now, Christ tells…speaks generally to all his servants…don’t be terrified and don’t be troubled, but here it’s phobeō—don’t fear little flock. How many times have you heard me…The ministers must have almost gotten bored, if you will, at how many times that…there’s something there. Is it just wars, rumors and commotions? Maybe. Maybe. But what else? Just actual fear: “…little flock…[it’s] your Father’s good pleasure to give you the kingdom” and then three things are said, in context.

Of all the things Christians are to do, it says, first, in two long verses actually: “…Sell that you have, and give alms…[Now, I’m going to be a little stronger about this.]…provide yourselves bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that fails not, where no thief approaches…[There’s a thief coming! How many thieves do we need to read about in the Bible? There aren’t that many!]…neither moth corrupt. For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also” (vs. 33-34)……

There are four things: Fear not; sell all; keep your loins girded, and your lights burning. And the “early birds” do this first. I’m going to show you that everyone who comes back into the flock, into the sanctuary, has got to do this as well, but in a different context. So you’ve got to do it, the question is: How hot do you want it to get?! How many phases of the fire do you want to go before you have to do it? Because you can’t be saved—what must I do to inherit eternal life? Matthew 19. You’ve got to do that. Some of you have already done it.

I just want to take a moment here, because we’ll just dwell on this. I normally don’t. I give it a “lick and a promise,” a sentence here, a sentence there, but I truly fear…I truly fear for those who don’t sell all that they have. You can’t play games! And now you know it isn’t, you can sort of play games—you’re going to be forced to make a decision—I will…or I will not…obey that command found all the way through the New Testament and sent out in articles. That’s the fuel for the fire.

You can begin to understand, if people begin to delay, God might, for a little while, hesitate because not enough fuel hit the fire, or maybe they’re not, for some other reasons, ready. And it may hesitate, not of what God decides, but on what we do, what we decide. So “if it hesitate” makes perfect sense. It depends on what we’re going to do. I could never get comfortable…What would God do to hesitate? Is the world not ready or something? What?

If we’re announcing it and we’ve been announcing it, and picking up speed, and we’re about to juice it—tomorrow—and I’m telling you today, which is a day before for you and six days later for others…We’re going to start to turn it up, to the ability that we can. 

Dave Pack: I Was Such A Good Minister That I Led 15,000 Out Of Apostate WCG

Superfantabulous Dave, not a humble bone in his body. His awesome tapes led 15,000 out of WCG and eventually 100,000, or so he claims.  The funny thing about Dave during all of the changes, his name was never mentioned in Pasadena.  The talk was about UCG forming, not Dave.  Dave was irrelevant.

Now, maybe the day…If you wanted to make a comparison…Because I’ve long believed…Over the year since I introduced the Man of Sin, I’ve long believed, now, that the leader of the Worldwide Church of God was a type. But he stood up on December 31, 1994…Here’s what he did…in Atlanta and he gave a sermon…I got the tape, transcribed it—the whole thing…and he said, “The Law’s done away; the Sabbath’s done away; the Holy Days are done away; tithing, clean and unclean meats…it’s all gone. It’s all Old Testament.” Everything—gone.

And within about four months, 25,000…23,000, something like that, had gone with United. It dwindled down later. More thousands came with Global, where I was. I was very involved. I helped about 15,000 families get out of Worldwide, with my tapes. And basically, over the next months, about 100,000 people, and eventually it way above that, left the Worldwide Church of God. That’s almost like the Abomination sat in the temple on December 31, 1994. I’m just giving you a kind of rhetorical parallel. It wasn’t some absolute biblical type that I know of, but boy, there were a lot of parallels.