Sunday, January 5, 2014

David Hulme Says Demons Behind His Current Church Problems



David Hulme has been quick to accuse Satan and the demons for causing the current massive upheaval in his splinter group.  That is the standard fallback to label anyone with who dares to question standard procedures.

Here is the letter from the new splinter group from Dave's chruch, who met recently here in Pasadena to chart a new path away from the authoritarian dominion of Davie Hulme.

Day 3: January 3, 2014 - Conference Conclusion

LETTER TO DAVID HULME

Dear David,

This letter is being presented to you in all sincerity.

Following our meeting on Tuesday, December 24th, you suggested some additional time for each of us to see what God would have us do in order to move forward. Since you had not initially accepted two vital issues we presented to you to begin the process of reconciliation—the marriage/family model of God’s government and a ministerial conference—we felt it necessary to explore both aspects to ascertain if God's will was with either or both.

To this end, an Acts 15-style conference was convened for pastors who embraced these components and wanted to “test the spirits” (1 John 4:1). You indicated that a different spirit was the motivation for those not in agreement with you and we wanted to know if that was the case.

The conference, held over four days, was inspiring and humbling. All present felt that God’s Spirit inspired an amazing oneness and unity. It truly was an Acts 15 experience. Our initial doubts were quickly allayed as we witnessed the positive lead of God’s Spirit. It provided a real learning experience for all of us.

We regret that you were not able to attend and be part of the process—though we did make the request for you to attend. So, in the continuation of the spirit of reconciliation, we present this report to you for your earnest consideration. We believe it represents a way forward that is godly and will receive God’s blessing.

As you know, we requested a follow-up session to our December 24th meeting for this coming Sunday, January 5th. Our request still stands for such a meeting to explore reconciliation as well as to review the results of the conference.

We implore you to let us join together in caring for God’s people and preparing the way ahead of Christ’s return. No doubt you will agree that the members of God’s family deserve no less than our best efforts toward reconciliation and seeking the Father’s will.

Sincerely,
Brian Orchard
Ted Budge

David Hulme's Group Continues to Implode From Members Leaving Because of Abuse



Of all the various splinter groups of Armstrongism, David Hulme's small group is the most secretive.  Many have found that a rather strange stance to to take considering he is supposed to have the pure gospel that is vital for a hurting world.  However, the entire world knows nothing about Hulme, his message, or his church.  Even his magazine VISION, is a failure.

Silenced has extensive news about the rapid disintegration of the smallest of the small COG splinters: Hulme's Group Implodes.

Silenced notes:

What started as mere whispers two years ago already has risen to a thunderous collapse over issues of ministerial abuse, ineffective media efforts, British Israelism and David Hulme’s authoritarianism.

...members and ministers alike have grown weary of abusive authoritarianism within the COG.

A new group has already split off and call themselves The Father's Call. 

Brian Orchard, Peter Nathan, Matt King, Bill Hutchison, Bob Rodzaj, Cliff Veal, Marshall Stiver, Stephen Elliott, Steve Andrews, Ted Budge, are just a few of the ministers that have rebelled against Hulme.

Just wondering....

Why Reunification SOON!  (Formerly "Now")
This announcement presents many reasons that reunification is drawing near. There is much PROOF!
Let’s recall again. Previous announcements explained why Haggai 1:15 describes this event as happening “in the second year of Darius the king.” For those who believe this date pertains to the Persian King Darius (who lived over 2,500 years ago), remember that the modern Zerubbabel is also described as the “son of Shealtiel” and Joshua as the “son of Josedech.” Let’s reason together. The modern TYPES of these two men are obviously NOT sons of these two fathers of long ago. The Bible is obviously speaking in code about what are two modern leaders. Mr. Armstrong knew the ancient Zerubbabel having been born to a man named Shealtiel had nothing to do with his prophetic fulfillment of this role. The same would be true of the modern Joshua regarding the irrelevancy of the ancient figure Josedech.

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Similarly, the description of the timing of fulfillment must also be in code...."

Apostle Pack says that God is obviously speaking in code.  Does any God have to speak in "code"?  Why would He do that?  I'm thinking that the Apostle wants God to speak in code so he can decipher the code as he wishes.  Frankly it is ridiculous theology to believe such    baloney and those who accept this code talking God are being foolish beyond belief.

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