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Saturday, March 23, 2024

Restored Church of God: A Messy Mess

 



A Messy Mess

 

The Restored Church of God experienced an exciting week when European minister Christophe Binette departed with a bold letter heard ‘round the world. It certainly jolted Bradford Schleifer out of bed before the cock crowed.

 

Jaco Viljoen was not fully awake when he drafted a deeply flawed rebuttal to the membership without pausing to consider the implications of what he accidentally admitted. RCG “ministers" are trained to under-react. Still, Headquarters forgot that philosophy in their desperate haste, so they swung into Damage Control Mode and revealed more than they intended.

 

And opened themselves up to a potentially messy legal action.

 

One serious implication of that poorly-crafted response letter is that The Restored Church of God exposed themselves to a lawsuit for violating pastoral confidentiality. Ministers are legally bound to keep information of counseling sessions private. Jaco claimed he and Cardboard Denee were working with Christophe, but then disclosed the nature of those discussions. Naughty, naughty.

 

The Restored Church of God ethically and legally violated its moral obligations as a religious organization by revealing private counseling information to its members.

 

This is not the first time.

 

Kenneth Orel is famous for revealing member secrets, and it could be a supporting factor in why he was so easily cast out from Wadsworth last year and was reduced to remote volunteer status. Some former members learned the hard way that if you counsel with Ken privately, he will use that content to flavor his sermon publicly.

 

Hearing your private story being divulged to the entire church while sitting in services is a traumatizing experience. Two former members approached me with their sufferings, but found it too painful to tell their side publicly. It is my hope that some day those stories come to light.

 

There are now three first-hand reports of this happening in The Restored Church of God. An attorney would better understand how many claimants you need to form a class action lawsuit. If anyone would like to take up this cause, I would gladly facilitate communication between the interested parties. Write exrcgwebsite@gmail.com.

 

That is a sliver of the abuses taking place within the walls of The Restored Church of God. Moral, ethical, and legal messiness is gaining traction on the already prevalent doctrinal mess.

 

 

David C. Pack enjoyed his drive home Sunday learning The Restored Church of God just shrank by 1%. When an organization is already in steady decline but reporting it as flat growth, how many more 1% losses can they sustain before financial collapse becomes inevitable?

 

RCG’s banks might also be smelling blood in the water. The more desperate shift in RCG’s financial policies and doctrines is a response to pressure from their loan holders, not coincidental revelations of biblical clarity from Dave’s god. Banks love steady, reliable income. The big, occasional Common check does not put them at ease. Dave may love it, but sound financial institutions do not.

 

The cold sweat on the wooden walls of Headquarters’ Third Floor of the Hall of Administration might just be steady, controlled panic at The Restored Church of God. They are not growing. Tithe income is not growing.

 

That is why they are considering preaching publicly for the first time after twenty-five years. Because they are being forced to. It has nothing to do with “the work” Herbert W. Armstrong did in the Worldwide Church of God. That is a plastic veneer to hide the rot underneath.

 

Let Stone Cold Math tell the tale.

 

The Restored Church of God uses business tools common to many corporate entities including Customer Relationship Management (CRM) software. There are all kinds of easily accessible data stored within that environment for anyone interested to document.

 

As of March 2024, these are exact numbers according to The Restored Church of God.

 

Current Active Members: 1,254

Removed Members: 4,625

Prospective Members: 140

Church Inquiries: 6

Deceased: 442

Total Contact: 470,801

 

These numbers report worldwide data since the inception of RCG in 1999 and since they began tracking. The active member numbers do not include children, and these statistics are outdated because they have lost 1% of their members in the past seven days. The hemorrhaging is not over.

 

 

As a frame of reference, Bradford Schleifer delivered a Bible Study, “Your Work and The Work” in June 2022. Despite his painting a deceptively rosy picture of RCG’s prospects, it was apparent that he was fudging the numbers back then. How much more so now?

 

Your Work and The Work – Bradford Schleifer – June 24, 2022

@ 54:04 We’ve seen our Church Inquiries grow ’21 over ’20. And we're currently projected, with what we're seeing right now, to beat last year by about 35 percent.

 

As of March 2024
Prospective Members: 140

Church Inquiries: 6

 

Part 493 – David C. Pack – February 17, 2024

@ 2:01:37 So I'm telling you, some people are afraid to sell all. They won't. They don't have the faith. …If you are sitting on funds, extra houses, or cash, you are commanded by God to sell all. Or, at best, you will face four years of sore trial. Now, I don’t mean to be strong ‘cause I don’t need it. The church is doing fine.

 

As of March 2024
Total Active Members: 1,254

 

The Restored Church of God is a doctrinal mess wrestling with a financial mess. When the April 8, 2024, kingdom does not arrive, expect that to be the last straw for more members. If they keep losing attendance in 1% increments, expect the messy mess to get messier.


Marc Cebrian

See: A Messy Mess

Tuesday, February 20, 2024

Crackpot Prophet Says Just Because All The Other COG False Prophets Are Wrong Does Not Mean You Can Ignore Me

 

All of the static electricity in the air with the recent thunderstorms and rain we have been having in California seems to have fried the brain of our most illustrious, self-appointed, doubly blessed, world-renowned authority on everything, the Great Bwana to Africa and the occasional 100 Caucasians. He is back today blessing us with his pithy comments.

After reading the things I posted about Alton Billingsley HERE on this blog, he decided to quote the exact same things I did, then added more comments about other self-appointed false prophets, both in the Church of God and in the pagan, heathen, unconverted, world.

As usual, his main go-to source for information is WorldNetDaily, a favorite of some of the prophecy addicts in the Church of God movement.

The Great Bwana Bob Mzungu writes:

Though World Net Daily often has items of interest, it has a history of promoting false prophets.

WTH???? Seriously dude, take a look at Armstrongism and its hundreds and hundreds of splinter groups and the certified liars that fill its ranks, from now-deceased so-called evangelists, ministers, and other prophecy addicts masquerading as loyal mouthpieces of God to today's raving lunatics! Considering your history of lies it is pretty hypocritical to accuse others outside of Armstrongism or in the church of being false prophets considering your abysmal record! 

Earlier this week, it pushed Jonathan Cahn again. Cahn is a Messianic Jew who has repeatedly been wrong about blood moons, Shemitah years, and other matters (e.g. ‘Warning Signs of America’s Destruction – Jonathan Cahn’).

Now, World Net Daily is calling a Protestant minister, who I have denounced here multiple times, Mark Biltz a biblical expert:

Biblical expert: Solar eclipse to mark ‘beginning of judgment upon America’

April’s total darkness will be ‘a uniquely powerful sign from God,’ says author-pastor

February 19, 2024

ISRAEL – An unusual total solar eclipse that will traverse North America in April has some biblical experts pointing to a deeper significance of the event, especially in light of today’s extremely unsettled times.

With a deep understanding of classical Jewish and Christian sources, Pastor Mark Biltz of El Shaddai Ministries is sharing his insights into the upcoming solar eclipse that will take place on Monday, April 8, 2024. …

“From a biblical point of view, a solar eclipse is meant to be a sign from God,” said Biltz, …

“If you refer to NASA’s data, there’s been a total of 12,000 total solar eclipses all over the world listed over a 5,000-year time period,” said Biltz. …

Pastor Biltz was puzzled by the appearance of four blood moons in 2014-2015. If the celestial events were signs, what did the blood moons signify? In an epiphany, he realized that the celestial signs were part of a much larger cycle based in the Hebrew calendar. The Hebrew year that began on Rosh Hashanah in September 2014 marked the beginning of a seven-year Shemitah (sabbatical) cycle.

“This is not a random seven-year cycle,” Biltz emphasized. “Rosh Hashanah in 2014 marked the beginning of the Hebrew year 5775. The Shemittah years all go back to Creation. If you divide 5775 by 7, it is precisely 825. September 2014, or, more accurately, the first of Tishrei 5775, was the 825th Shemittah cycle since God created the world.”

After connecting the blood moons to the Shemitah cycle, Biltz realized they had prophetic significance: They came as a sign to herald war. …

According to the world's most PERFECT  'christian', Mark Blitz is a Protestant and as everyone in Armstrongism knows about Protestants. he is NOT a real Church of God Christian.

Both Mark Biltz, Jonathan Cahn, and WND’s founder Joseph Farah consider themselves to be ‘Messianic Jews.’ While this means that they will avoid biblically unclean meats, keep the Sabbath, observe the biblical holy days, and hold to parts of a few Church of God doctrines, the Messianics are NOT Church of God Christians. Like the Seventh-day Adventists, they are basically a type of Protestant.

The Great Bwana Mzungu of Africa and the occasional 100 Caucasians then moves on to Alton Billingsley. 

Now, there are also COG-associated leaders who make wrong predictions. Church of God Faithful Flock’s Don Billingsley was promoting nonsense like Hillary Clinton would be president now, that Donald Trump would remain in office, and other such nonsense.

He is also wrong about many other things. Notice something he wrote in a post:

The Ezekiel WATCHMAN
 
“Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful Day of the LORD!” 
 
Malachi 4:5; Matthew 17:10-11
 
Alton B. (Don) Billingsley
 
The Immanency of the Coming of Jesus Christ …:
In view of Prophetic Biblical teachings, connected with major disastrous events, now occurring, and projected to worsen on a national and international scale over the next few years, strongly implies Jesus Christ will be standing on this earth in the year-2029. …
They also make known this nation is in mortal danger of being destroyed, as a nation, along with Britain, and other nations of Israel, in the year 2026 … Prophesied to be destroyed by a super-power far greater than America. 
Though it has not yet appeared, it is prophesied to be fully developed by the year-2024https://www.cog-ff.com/ezekiel.html accessed 02/20/24

No, none of that is right. 2029 is simply too early for Jesus to be able to return by then.

Because there are many false and heretical leaders that lead people astray on prophecy and sometimes they mention the Bible to try to act like God sanctions their nonsense, they should be denounced as false.

Pot calling the kettle black, again! The hypocrisy of the Great Bwana knows no ends. 

While that has been appropriate for those I have denounced, sadly most end time Christians have been self-satisfied and/or relied on the dismissal of others to overlook what God’s word says God would be doing at this time related to prophets.

Oh my! Apparently, all COG members have relied upon the Great Bwana Bob Mzungu to tell them who and who are not real prophets in the church and are now befuddled as to who is right! I guess they have thrown Bob out of the door along with all the other COG lying false prophets. Such a tragedy!

To counter this shocking trend, the Great Bwana Bob Mzungu has to trot of Norm Edwards as some kind of authority on prophets in the Church of God. Seriously dude, Edwards was already being discredited as a whack job BEFORE the Worldwide Church of God ever broke up. Norm is just like you in that you both set yourselves up as authorities on subjects you know very little about.

Norman Edwards, a former employee of the old WCG and later a former board member of the old Global Church of God, wrote the following:

There are over 40 separate passages about prophets and their prophecies in the New Testament—so many that one might easily get tired of reading them! … If we want God to show us what will happen in the future, we need to “desire earnestly to prophesy” (1 Cor 14:39). It is a New Testament teaching we must not ignore! …

Do people today have faith that God is able to prophecy through people …?

1Jo 4:1-2 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God,

Note: If there were no true prophets, there would be no need to “test the spirits”—because every prophet would be a “false prophet”. But because there are both true prophets and false prophets, we need to “test the spirits”. (Edwards N. Need Prophets More than Prophecy. Shepherd’s Voice, Fall 2013)

The Great Bwana Bob Mzungu Thiel needs to continually trot out Edwards as PROOF that he and he alone is the one true prophet of the Church of God today.

The Great Bwana Bob Mzungu knows that he has been lumped in alongside all of the other lying Church of God false prophets over the last 8 decades. Church members understand this and even a lot of people in the public understand this.  This is a sore spot that the Great Bwana is unable to shake off. Since 99.99% of the COG has completely ignored him he has to resort to the blame game. Since it is the only REAL one in the church, members need to be supporting him. He then proceeds to call out those who do not support him as LAZY and UNWISE.

The existence of false prophets does NOT excuse not supporting a real one.

Consider that the Book of Proverbs warns:

16 The lazy man is wiser in his own eyes Than seven men who can answer sensibly. (Proverbs 26:16)

Now, most end time Christians do not believe that they are lazy, but wise.

Yet, they overlook evidence because they are uncomfortable with the idea that there could now be a prophet that they should heed.

It is NOT safer to reject a true prophet because there are many false ones.

The Great Bwana then has to drag in Leroy Neff as proof that he and he alone exhibits all the qualifications to be a prophet:

Back in 1986, then WCG evangelist L. Leroy Neff (now deceased) wrote a lot about how to identify a true prophet as well as what is not required:

How can you tell the impostor from the true servant of God? The answer will probably be quite surprising to many people because they are using an unscriptural basis for evaluation” … 

What are the credentials?

Some people would look to a prophet’s or minister’s credentials. He would be accepted if he were educated at a recognized theological institution. Others would look for a minister’s popularity, his charisma, his personality or his speaking ability.

But the Scriptures show that God’s servants have sometimes not had these qualities or credentials. They were not graduates of the recognized theological institutions of their day. Moses had trouble speaking in public (Exodus 4: 10). Jeremiah was “too young” (Jeremiah 1:6). Paul lacked certain speech abilities (I Corinthians 2: 1, II Corinthians 10:10). Even Jesus Himself had no outstanding personal characteristics that set Him apart from others, as the religious leaders had to pay Judas to point Him (Matthew 26:47-49).

Some would expect to find a true minister or prophet in a large and beautiful church building. Yet, during the history of the early Church, there is no mention of church buildings. Instead we read that the Church was not a building at all, but the people who were called out of this world to become the Church. The people (the Church) met in various buildings, sometimes in Church members’ homes (Romans 16:5, I Corinthians 16:19, Philemon 2). Paul preached for two years while under house arrest in rented facilities. He probably had both living quarters and a meeting hall of some kind (Acts 28:30-31).

Jesus said His followers would not be many in number, but would be comparatively few: “Do not fear, little flock, for it is your Father’s good pleasure to give you the kingdom” (Luke 12:32). (Neff LL. Imposter–or–True Prophet — Which? Good News, December 1986, pp. 10-11)

There is a reason the Great Bwana has to quote Leroy Neff and that is because Neff said that some prophets do not need credentials, such as legitimate theological education or have a lot of followers. Given that Bwana Bob has a "diploma" out of a double-wide trailer in India, supposedly theology, a degree that has been thoroughly discredited by Gavin Rumney and others over the years. 

A true prophet would not need to be from a major theological institution, have the most magnanimous personality, be charismatic, or have a necessarily impressive Church. He also does not have to have had a ministerial background. Nor does the prophet even, like apparently the Apostle Paul per 2 Corinthians 10:10 and 11:6 or Moses per Exodus 4:10 or Jeremiah per Jeremiah 1:6, need to be a great speaker. God chooses who His prophets are.

Yes, we know you have no real theology degree. We do know for a fact your personality is shockingly lacking in charisma, so much so that you come off as a sideshow and as a rather hilarious comedy routine at times.

Yes, God may pick a selection who were prophets, but we all know for a FACT that you are not appointed by God and that he had absolutely NOTHING to do with your self-appointed prophethood status. That is an indisputable fact. Besides, in the New Covenant, there is no need for prophets.

Then, the Great Bwana Bob Mzungu has to drag up his same old schtick about how he dreams dreams, AND that he wears the Philadelphia mantle, which in reality is just more COG crap theology.

The Apostle Peter stated:

17 ‘And it shall come to pass in the last days, says God, That I will pour out of My Spirit on all flesh; Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, Your young men shall see visions, Your old men shall dream dreams. 18 And on My menservants and on My maidservants I will pour out My Spirit in those days; And they shall prophesy. (Acts 2:17-18)

Are these the last days?

If so, God should be using dreams and prophets.

Do you believe that?

All should REALLY pay attention to the Bible.

The apostles were confirmed by signs that followed them (Mark 16:20) and there have been signs that have confirmed the leadership of the Continuing Church of God. And the old Radio/Worldwide Church of God pointed to a dream that preceded its formation in becoming the group to originally hold the Philadelphia mantle.

He then continues to blackball all Church of God members and all Christians as fake because no one will follow him. Lobbing the Laodicean epitaph at COG members is just another scare tactic of desperate theologically bankrupt COG ministers. And, don't forget boys and girls, since you refuse to follow the Great Bwana Bob Mzungu you will NOT know when it is time to flee to Petra and be taught by him for 3 1/2 years.

Laodiceans are the bulk of end time Christians–not only are they NOT promised protection from what is coming, they are admonished by Jesus to repent. Yet, they feel that they are in need of nothing–which, in the case, includes the need to believe and heed any who claim to be a prophet.

Therefore, and this is the main point of my bringing church eras into this, IT WILL NOT BE CLEAR TO MOST END TIME CHRISTIANS THAT GOD HAS A PROPHET (OR PROPHETS) AND THAT THEY NEED TO HEED HIM WHEN HE GIVES THE MESSAGES THAT GOD WANTS GIVEN.

If so, all would know to flee when it is time and the Bible is clear that not all Christians would flee.

The absurdities by Great Bwana just get worse.  Apparently, he believes the creature he calls 'jesus' is knocking on the hearts of all COG members and ex-members to try and wake everyone up to the fact that the Great Bwana Bob Mzungu is the one true 21st century property!  See, I told you the absurdities were getting worse!

Recall that Jesus says He is knocking, yet the Laodiceans were not listening.

The Bible teaches:

1 Cry aloud, spare not; Lift up your voice like a trumpet; Tell My people their transgression, And the house of Jacob their sins. (Isaiah 58:1)

Isn’t that something a 21st century prophet would be doing?

Consider that multiple thousands of Church of God members, including the ministry, have heard warnings from places such as the COGwriter Church of God News page. Yet, the vast majority have failed to sufficiently respond to Jesus’ words about being Laodicean or what I post on that as well as other theological and prophetic subjects.

Since Jesus pointed to the last church of Revelation 2 & 3 needing to repent, plus only promised the Philadelphian Christians protection from the coming hour of trial, plus we know from what the Apostle Peter said there would be prophets in the last days, and that the last generation Jesus spoke of in Matthew 24 would see the return of Jesus in the 21st century, how would God appoint a 21st century prophet?

The Great Bwana's so-called 'jesus' is so ticked off with everyone ignoring the one true 21st century prophet that he is no longer going to send a sign due to the fact everyone is evil and adulterous. 

Would He do some dramatic miracle to make it clear to all end time Christians?

No.

Jesus also refused to do a dramatic one on more than one ocassion when pressed to prove who He was (Matthew 12:38). He then said:

“An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign” (Matthew 12:39)

Constantly being stung by the fact that the entire Church of God movement ignores him and calls him out as a self-appointed false prophet, the Great Bwana Bob Mzungu has to use any means he can to support his self appointment, even if it means dragging out Jesus when he thinks it would sound good to do so.

More crap COG theology:

Interestingly, the old Radio and Worldwide Church of God taught that God used dreams and would in the last days, yet most in the COGs today seem not to accept that.

Jesus said that a true prophet will basically self-declare:

40 “He who receives you receives Me, and he who receives Me receives Him who sent Me. 41 He who receives a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet’s reward. (Matthew 10:40-41)

Yes, if you can accept a true prophet who declares he is a prophet, yes, you can get the reward of a prophet.

Then, the best part of all in his article, he lashes out at Banned, Terry Nelson, and Gavin Rumney for constantly making him look like a fool! Delightful! We wear that badge with honor!

Yet, throughout history, people said bad things about God’s prophets (e.g. Jeremiah 43:1-7).

Jesus said:

11 Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake. 12 Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you. (Matthew 5:11-12)

Many once nominally part of the COG (e.g. see Banned by HWA and Ambassador Watch) as well as many inside still claiming to be have said false and evil things against me (e.g. see Can Christians Actually be Cursed By Witches or Witch Doctors?).

Do not accept false prophets. Do not, however, believe it is safer to not accept God’s criteria for prophets.

If you really were a prophet sent by God, people would know. However, everyone in the. Living Church of God, from its leaders and ministers down to the everyday members knows that you are a fraud and a false prophet. Kudos to them! Everyone in the other COG groups knows that you are a liar and false preheat. That is why the entire Church of God movement has REJECTED YOU! Even when people leave LCG, RCG, PCG, and other groups they still DO NOT join up with you. Everyone knows! Everyone knows!

The Great Bwana Bob Mzungu then proceeds to claim that he now has over 9,000 members, but fails to mention that 8,900 of them live in Africa with little internet access and are led by men who church hop from one Adventist/sabbatarian group to the next looking for whoever gives them the most money. Numbers are important to the Great Bwana Bob Mzungu. Constantly telling other COG people that he has more members than they do makes him feel good and keeps his heart puffed up with vanity. Classic signs of a narcissist.

Even Herbert Armstrong had to be dug up out of his grave to support the Great Bwana Bob Mzungu:

The late Pastor General of the old Worldwide Church of God, Herbert W. Armstrong, taught the following about Romans 11:25:

Now I want you to study carefully one of the most wonderful, important chapters in all the Bible — the 11th of Romans. … Verse 23 says those who abide not still in unbelief shall YET receive salvation. … Now study carefully beginning verse 25: “Blindness in part is happened to Israel [HOW LONG? Forever? No — note it], UNTIL the fulness of the Gentiles be come in” — the end of this age during which God is calling a people from among the gentiles to bear His name (Acts 15:14).  (Armstrong HW. Where Will The MILLENNIUM Be Spent? Tomorrow’s Word magazine, September 1971, p. 5)

Where is this occurring most in the Churches of God?

Well in the CCOG where we have had over 9,000 Gentiles come in (see also What About Romans 11:25 and the Full Number of the Gentiles?). Unlike various other x-WCG groups, the vast bulk with us were NOT once part of the old WCG nor were their parents part of the old WCG.

This is a fruit of a prophetic evangelist.


The Great Bwana Bob Mzungu ends with this:

Please accept the criteria that God, not some organization claiming to best represent Him, has set for determining who is a true prophet of God. Do not add non-biblical criteria, which is what most have done.

Accept God’s form of governance, which means how HE ordains leaders. Accept God’s criteria for a prophet.

We in the Continuing Church of God “have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts” (2 Peter 1:19, KJV).”

Use God’s criteria, not your emotions or the opinions of others, to persuade you to prove all things related to prophets and God’s use of dreams.

Absolute nothing the Great Bwana wrote above is criteria from God that we should accept him.  The extra-biblical nonsense he has added to enslave his followers is appalling. The morally bankrupt system of "church governance" inherited from the mother church is rotten to the core. No splinter group leader ever respected that-called governance, back then or today.

The improperly named "continuing" Church of "god" no more holds a sure word of prophecy than Dave Pack or Gerald Flurry does.

God's criteria on lying Church of God false prophets is this:

Deuteronomy 18:20

20 But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death.”

Ezekiel13:9

My hand will be against the prophets who see false visions and utter lying divinations. They will not belong to the council of my people or be listed in the records of Israel, nor will they enter the land of Israel. Then you will know that I am the Sovereign LORD.

Jeremiah 14:14

Then the LORD said to me, “The prophets are prophesying lies in my name. I have not sent them or appointed them or spoken to them. They are prophesying to you false visions, divinations, idolatries and the delusions of their own minds.

Jeremiah 23:16

This is what the LORD Almighty says: “Do not listen to what the prophets are prophesying to you; they fill you with false hopes. They speak visions from their own minds, not from the mouth of the LORD.

Luke 6:26

Woe to you when everyone speaks well of you, for that is how their ancestors treated the false prophets.

Matthew 24:24

For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect

Matthew 16:11-12

How is it you don’t understand that I was not talking to you about bread? But be on your guard against the yeast of the Pharisees and Sadducees.”

12 Then they understood that he was not telling them to guard against the yeast used in bread, but against the teaching of the Pharisees and Sadducees.

2 Timothy 4:3-4

For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.

4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.

Acts 20,:28-30

Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood.

29 I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock.

30 Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them.

2 Peter 3:14-18

So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to be found spotless, blameless and at peace with him.

15 Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him.

16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

17 Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of the lawless and fall from your secure position.

18 But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and forever! Amen.

1 John 4:1-6

Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

2 This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God,

3 but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.

Matthew 7:15-20

Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.

16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?

17 Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.

18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit.

19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.

20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.

2 Peter 1:20-21

20 Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet’s own interpretation of things.

21 For prophecy never had its origin in the human will, but prophets, though human, spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.

Titus 1:6-16

Therefore rebuke them sharply, so that they will be sound in the faith

14 and will pay no attention to Jewish myths or to the merely human commands of those who reject the truth.

15 To the pure, all things are pure, but to those who are corrupted and do not believe, nothing is pure. In fact, both their minds and consciences are corrupted.

16 They claim to know God, but by their actions they deny him. They are detestable, disobedient and unfit for doing anything good.







 


 





Saturday, February 10, 2024

"David C. Pack is gunning for the office of Village Idiot"

 


Eating Words

Imagine someone going on a very long theological Apology Tour but without the apologies. That best describes David C. Pack during “The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 492)” on February 3, 2024.

After a two-week self-sequestering, the Pastor General of The Restored Church of God spent 89 minutes discrediting his own doctrines while draping them with the thin veil of new, exciting knowledge.

Half of “The Greatest Untold Story!” has been disputing the other half. Until Part 492. The scales are now tipped to 60% of the Series, being a rejection of the rest.

Has anyone ever lived who loves to eat his own words more than David C. Pack? If his legendary verbal blunders were thoroughly documented, he could quickly fill a volume of Encyclopedia Britannica.

David C. Pack debunks David C. Pack before a live studio audience for sixteen minutes.

Starting thirty seconds into Part 492, Hangry Dave feasted upon his own mutable words, proving how very easy to argue against himself was highly possible.

Part 492 – February 3, 2024
@ 00:28 When do years begin? Were WE right to think that it’s Passover? Is this right? Or is it close? Now, we’re gonna take another look at this. Some pretty exciting things are gonna come out tonight.

When Dave posses the question, you already see the coming answer. A host of rolling eyeballs swayed in the Main Hall as members scribbled in their notebooks, anticipating the words across the page soon to be eaten.

@ 01:36 Let’s begin to flesh out what a year is. It’s gonna be more important than you can imagine by the time we’re done.

@ 03:33 So, to God, a year is twelve months… Now, the first month wouldn’t start from the middle of Abib. You know, I been battling this for a long time. That’s why it took some extra time before bringing this in.

Dave begrudgingly accepted that a year is, in fact, twelve months. I wonder if the sky cracked open with light rays as an angelic choir sang for joy when this jolted him out of bed. Yes, learning such revelations is how the brethren of The Restored Church of God spend their Sabbaths.

@ 04:01 But, it comes down to accepting that there are twelve months in a year.

David C. Pack admits that years begin at the beginning of the first month. His keen prophetic perception caught up with the children napping on blankets at their parents’ feet. Thus, for 89 minutes on February 3, 2024, the Feast of Backpedaling was officially observed at The Restored Church of God.

The Prophetic All-You-Can-Eat Word Buffet opened, and False Elijah was the only one in line. 


While I worked at RCG’s Headquarters, David C. Pack’s continual clarifying reversals forced me to change how I took notes during Services. It became my personal coping mechanism for tolerating two- to three-hour messages three to four days a week.

Absolute misery is sitting in that frigid Main Hall, listening to Dave eat his own words from the previous message. Sometimes, even the next day. Week after week. Month after month. Year after year.

Instead of writing down what he expected us to, I began recording his stupidest comments and the Bible verses that refuted him. Sometimes, those verses were on the very page he was reading from. He blathered for minutes while I stared at the one verse he refused to read that would have abruptly ended his mistaken enthusiasm.

Relief would come when Dave finally accepted he was wrong about XYZ, just as I had noted the moment the false words fell from his ignorant lips. The exrcg.org website is an amplification of my personal process for sanity preservation.

A growing number of current RCG members refuse to listen to David C. Pack. Some brethren learn here what the Pastor General teaches. For real.

Many words Dave taught recently are eaten in Part 492, even though he does not present it that way.

Flashback Part 489 – January 6, 2024
@ 35:48 But, we do know (and this is impossible to argue). This is impossible to argue because it’s literally going forward…The seven years and a thousand absolutely, immutably impossible to argue those begin on the first night of Passover.

Eat up, Dave.

@ 37:49 Now, I ask again, have years always been from Abib 15? We know they will always be going forward. Inarguable.

Eat.

@ 1:42:02 Lacking something akin to an oracle, the Series is officially done.

Okay. Maybe that is cheating. He already ate those words during Part 490.

Flashback Part 490 – January 13, 2024
@ 20:52 Midst of the years. It very difficult because every year since the Garden has been the same. It’s Passover to Passover.

Eat.

@ 50:59 …every year will start at Passover. That’s why God had to (over these recent weeks) get me to see that.

Falsely using God’s name and deceptively speaking with God’s authority, David C. Pack proves that God had nothing to do with his understanding. Eating words that he claims God inspired should be the most frightening to anyone paying tithes to that spiritually corrupt organization.

@ 1:43:33 …and watch everything get cleared up. So, that’s pretty obvious that we’re right on track, but just not in the way we thought because what God is gonna do is infinitely better.

The Restored Church of God could not be further off-track with a blaspheming liar promoting doctrines of antichrist preaching about himself on the Sabbath, proving he is a human idol.

 Flashback Part 491 – January 20, 2024
@ 17:37 Elijah is raised to restore all things. Would restore all things include a temple?

Eat.

@ 52:16 Now, I'm actually gonna show you…the Bible tells you explicitly the day that this temple is built before you get to Passover.

Eat.

@ 1:10:14 Years start on the middle of a month at Passover. That’s a big key.

@ 1:18:13 So, let me explain that this Passover becomes a powerful juncture.

@ 1:39:06 But now you have a hard, fast deadline. It’s a line in the sand. 

Eat. Eat. Eat. Those are only a few samples of the words David C. Pack ate during Part 492. As he continued the message, the leftovers were found further back in the fridge.


Part 492 – February 3, 2024
@ 04:41 …and months always began on the fifteenth? Now, that didn’t work. But I, ‘course, I’m gotta come to why I thought Passover was the day that the Kingdom began.

@ 05:57 But I’m I was trying to be faithful to something that I saw.

In The Restored Church of God, it is now acceptable for the Pastor General “to be faithful” to fraudulent imaginary ideas. But you better not try that, brethren.

@ 06:04 So, Creation [chuckles], think about it. Would’ve been Abib 1. God didn’t start the world on the fifteenth of a month. And I it bothered me terribly. But, I was trying to be faithful to the Passover Christ said we’ll take the Passover that day “in My Father’s Kingdom.”

So, David C. Pack was not technically to blame. The ambiguous words Jesus Christ uttered caused Dave’s confusion. There are always excuses as to why this, that, and the other turned out to be false.

@ 09:45 “…that day when I drink it new with you in My Father’s Kingdom.” That just means the designated day. It does not mean the Father’s Kingdom came on Passover. And, by the way, would it be the 14th or the 15th anyway? …It does not say the Kingdom came that day. Took me a long time to see it.

The Kingdom of God arriving this Passover? Eat.

Jesus Christ takes the Passover symbols on Abib 15? Eat.

@ 10:32 So, it does not mean the Kingdom comes on Passover. The Kingdom of God comes two weeks before that.

@ 11:14 And that bothered me terribly. How could that be? Utter chaos. Utter chaos on the Passover. But, if the Passover were kept two weeks later, everybody could be ready for it.

The Day of the Lord occurs on Passover? Eat.

@ 13:39 In Colossians 2:16, the apostle Paul said New Moons are a shadow of a thing to come. Passover's a full moon. New Moon is a shadow. Now, the church already the church, at least (and I think God understood this with Mr. Armstrong). The church always kept Trumpets. So, the church always did keep one New Moon and that was one reason many thought the Kingdom would come on Trumpets.

The shadow Paul wrote of was Passover? Eat.

@ 16:15 I assumed that because they were there for a while, it was natural, “It must be Passover.” They’ve got seven days. No.

Dave assumed a natural conclusion that was utterly false. The Power of Presumption is strong with this one. And he keeps screaming this to the brethren. Why do they not listen?

All of that was just in the first sixteen minutes.


I remember learning in The Restored Church of God that positions of authority were granted from above, and men are not to seek them out. In God's Government, "Offices are given. They are not taken."

Despite that, David C. Pack is gunning for the office of Village Idiot.

As Dave started on his new biblical fixation, he foolishly repeated the same mistakes he had winced past for sixteen minutes. It is painful to witness. After eating his own words because of his presumptions heaped unto heaven, the man reapplies the same broken logic to his next big thing.

@ 18:46 …and it’s yearly. It’s every year. It kinda sounds suspicious. Like hmm. Is this potentially, maybe, or we talkin' about the start of a year? Hmm. Maybe.

@ 19:43 You might just pause and say, “What’s the most natural time you would offer a yearly sacrifice?” Probably the start of a year.

If you have an annual physical, it does not mean you do it on the first day of the year. Something happening each year does not prove it occurs at the start of the year. That concept escapes Dave.

Coffee Kid and Pepper Boy must be too frightened to offer sound logic to their human idol. Maybe by now, Jim and Andy consider it a good day if they do not get yelled at. Rational thought is banned from the Third Floor Executive Imaginarium.

Presumptuous conclusions for a future word-gorging in 3…2…1…

@ 29:11 Now, that’s powerful knowledge. It changes a lot of things.

@ 29:33 This’ll tell you the Day of the Lord is absolutely Abib 1.

@ 34:00 Again, this is revelatory knowledge. I’m giving you the Scriptures.

@ 35:11 The midst of the years has to be Abib 1. There’s no other time you can have it.

@ 35:54 So, Abib 1 is always the midst of the years. Always.

Hangry Dave loves to eat his cold leftovers.

Flashback Part 482 – November 30, 2023
@ 1:40:03 The midst of the years, it has to be Cheshvan 1 or Abib. Abib will not work.

If Dave could eat pictures, he would want to consume this whether the midst was Cheshvan 15 or 20. Everything he has taught about this before has been eaten.


Part 492 – February 3, 2024
@ 37:38 But I hope by now, it’s impossible to believe that years do not begin on Abib 1, and all iterations of the Kingdom begin on Abib 1, and all years since the Garden into eternity have been Abib 1.

@ 38:23 Go up year to year. Add sacrifices. Abib 1. So, there’s no arguing with that anymore. Not that anybody would want to.

Well, about that. A future David C. Pack may have some stern words on this topic.


The further Dave went, the more historic the words he ate. He wolfed down hours of content in seconds.

@ 1:02:05 “And the messenger of the covenant, whom you delight in: behold, he shall come.” Whether that’s Elijah or Christ (it looks like it’s Elijah, but there’s a case that it’s Christ), dun-make any difference, they’re both there. There are, they're all there, and you're there, too. [laughs] We’re all there.

Stop.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Dave is no longer sure HE is the Messenger of the Covenant? Wow.

Dave rushed to call this out, ignoring all the outstanding "cascade learning" of Part 466 like he was snatching a donut off the counter on his way to a meeting.

Flashback Part 466 – September 7, 2023
@ 24:52 "And the Messenger of the Covenant, whom you delight in." We gotta talk about that.

@ 42:48 God’s people delight in a coming Elijah. We all talked about him. This is a man that people delight in.

Eaten.

An RCG principle is, “If someone is not sure they are the True Church, they cannot be the True Church.” A man is either written about in the Bible or not. Now, Dave is not sure that is him. Double-wow.

The more alarming implication is that whether a Bible verse applies to Jesus Christ or an ordinary man, it “dun-make any difference” to the leadership of The Restored Church of Another god.

So, brethren could be reading about their Savior or Pastor General David C. Pack, and it does not matter. Even those half-asleep in RCG should be concerned about that.

Are they reading about Jesus Christ or the Antichrist? According to Dave, it dun-make any difference.


Dave admitted he might not be the Messenger of the Covenant but doubled down elsewhere.

Part 492 – February 3, 2024
@ 1:09:24 "…and the counsel of peace shall be between them both." Well, the only two people who’ve been mentioned are God and Elijah. So, the Father’s there while His house is being built.

David C. Pack will work directly with the Father even though Elijah is not mentioned a single time in Zechariah.

@ 1:10:50 "The mountain of the Lord's House is set up, and all nations flow to it."

@ 1:11:02 But, it’s built after He gets here. It’s not waiting for him on Abib 1.

The Temple is built by David C. Pack before Jesus Christ returns on Passover? Eat.

@ 1:14:13 So, the Temple is now obviously built all while God’s here.

In your face, ALL of Part 491! Eaten. The power of Dave compels you!


Jesus Christ was scheduled to return at sunset on April 8, 2024, at 7:59 PM ET. Have those words also been eaten?

@ 1:11:39 But, God’s gonna let all human beings who have ever lived build that house. Maybe starting Abib 1. Maybe starting before that.

@ 1:16:42 But, I am not sure, and I'm not gonna declare that we wait till Abib 1. We’re to watch. Because the event that’s coming is a thief event.

@ 1:23:28 I just don’t know. I know that it’s not long after the Series is done.

@ 1:26:12 If you ask me, “Mr. Pack, could you give me an opinion?” All I can do is give you an opinion. I suspect…I suspect we’re waiting to the only day I know of that cannot tarry. That will surely come. And that’s the coming of the next year.

Hint. Hint. Abib 1. Wink. Wink. The golden days of Dave emphasizing, “Brethren, you don’t want Mr. Pack’s opinion,” are long dead.

Part 492 was an 89-minute Feast of Backpedaling that chewed up doctrines of the past. Oh, the joys that Part 493 will contain.



David C. Pack is a prophetic bulimic vomiting into and eating from the same bowl. This has been the case since 2013.

The original title, “The Greatest Story Never Told!” was eaten.

The first thirty parts of the Series in Member Services were eaten.

Literature including "Is 'That Prophet' Alive Today?—The Rise of False Prophets," "I Will Send Elijah to Restore All Things," "Herbert W. Armstrong—His Life in Proper Prospective," and "The Bible's Difficult Scriptures Explained!," were all eaten.

Dozens of The World to Come episodes were eaten.

On and on it goes. Words eaten. Money eaten. Lives eaten.

That is the untold story of The Restored Church of Another god.

When there is no accountability, rampant corruption takes hold. Seducing spirits allow no rest for the brethren choosing to stay there.

Eat. Vomit. Eat. Vomit. Eat. David C. Pack will not stop this custom anytime soon.

And I will not be eating my own words about that.

 


Marc Cebrian