Dave Says He Learned His Identity Four Years Ago And Will Hand Over The Church to Christ

The Hebrew for keep brings powerful meaning: “to hedge about (as with thorns), guard; generally to protect, attend to…be circumspect, take heed (to self), keep (-er, self), mark, look narrowly, observe, preserve, regard, reserve, save (self), sure, (that lay) wait (for), watch (-man).” Charge means “office, ordinance, watch or duty.” The Hebrew for “places to walk” means “a walking (in a collective sense), access.” Joshua has a certain course to walk, and he will make it through if he continues to follow God. But the primary meaning is that, as leader of God’s House (Church), it is his duty to be sure the WHOLE CHURCH walks in God’s ways. I worked alongside Mr. Armstrong (Zerubbabel) while he was putting the Church back on track. In fact, I worked most closely with him during that period. It was enormously important to spend these hours on the phone with him in the late 1970s as he put doctrines discarded by the liberals back into place.

In order to walk in God’s ways, whoever would be Joshua must clearly understand ALL of God’s ways. He must know without a doubt what was restored by Mr. Armstrong (Zerubbabel and Elijah). He must be someone who will not compromise ANY of God’s ways. I take this instruction very seriously—and the record of my life PROVES this.

It should now be obvious that Joshua leads the Church until Jesus Christ—the Stone—returns. The leader stands behind the stone that lays before him. Now get this! If no one fulfilled the modern role of Joshua, there would be no leader of God’s Church awaiting Christ’s Return. The final leader of God’s Church is present when Christ ushers in His government over all nations! This Joshua is led by Christ, Who stands in front of him.

Accept the facts from God’s Word! The honest reader will at least admit that someone fulfills the role of Joshua today. Someone, somewhere—one man—must do this. And realize that this man would (so obviously) be the first to know who he was. Imagine Joshua not knowing he was Joshua. I learned my identity almost four years ago. Haggai’s prophecy means you must learn it now. 

Dave Pack: I Will Bear The Sins of the Church

Davey has been struggling for months and months trying to figure out what the:filthy garments" are that he is supposed to have.  Try as he might he cannot do it.  Until now......since he is without sin it cannot be him, so it has to be all the sins of others that he has to bear.

Looking into the Hebrew words for “thine iniquity” brought clarity. First, the word thine was added by translators. It is not in the Hebrew! The iniquity is NOT Joshua’s. As did Mr. Armstrong on a couple occasions, our Headquarters ministers asked leading rabbis if this verse was referring to Joshua’s sin. This phrase was not obscure or hard to determine for the rabbis. They knew immediately. Many preeminent Jewish commentaries and scholars explain that this has to do with the nation of Judah having fallen into sin. Also, anciently, Ezra describes (in what is a helpful type) how the men of Judah had married foreign wives. As with Solomon’s foreign wives, this led to the worship of false gods. Notice: “And the children of Israel, which were come again out of captivity, and all such as had separated themselves unto them from the filthiness of the heathen of the land, to seek the Lord God of Israel…” (Ezra 6:21). Also read chapter 9, verse 11.
In summary, it became clear that Joshua’s filthy garments were connected to his role as HIGH PRIEST.

Joshua C Pack claims he has nothing to be forgiven for.  Being without sin is a hard Coors to bear..necessary



Another curious omission is that Joshua’s sin is never identified. Nothing is said about what mistakes he made. Significant sins committed by biblical figures are almost invariably named. Think Cain, Adam, Noah, Job, Abraham, Jacob, Moses, Aaron, Korah, King David, Uzzah, Solomon, kings of Israel and Judah, Judas, the apostles Peter and Paul—and many more. If Joshua is a kind of great sinner, WHY ARE HIS SINS NOT LISTED?—even one of them? This fights the Bible pattern. God typically LISTS sins so others can learn from them. He does not give vague reference to something unknown. See this!

Also missing from the account is any statement of forgiveness or grace. This is typical when God’s servants are forgiven. And why is Joshua not seen as repenting if he was supposedly wrapped (clothed) in his sin? And if this is describing Joshua’s sin (iniquity), the whole Church would forever be watching to see if he slipped back into that sin. Imagine the ongoing scenario that God would have authored by selecting such a man. Why would He do that, and when has He done it before?

Dave Pack: Why Would God Pick Me If He Knew I Would Commit Major Sins?

3:4: “And he answered and spoke unto those that stood before him, saying, Take away the filthy garments from him. And unto him he said, Behold, I have caused thine iniquity to pass from you, and I will clothe you with change of raiment.”

So the reader knows in advance where the following explanation is going, it is helpful to first state that the filth described is simply NOT JOSHUA’S! Start with this in mind as you read. It will become crystal clear.

When I began studying this subject four years ago, along with our Headquarters ministers, serious questions came to mind. First, if verse 3 is describing Joshua’s sin(s), why would God choose such a leader—one He knew in advance would commit major sins? Imagine God putting His Church in a position where it must wait (for a short or long time) for its sin-laden leader to repent. If the sin(s) was in Joshua’s past, I was left asking, Where are they? The Hebrew for iniquity means “perversity, (moral) evil, fault, iniquity, mischief, punishment (of iniquity), sin.” There was no doubt what this referenced.

I certainly did remain in a spiritually filthy environment in the Global Church of God for years (this also describes the latter WCG years)—full of division, accusation, covetousness, nepotism, every kind of favoritism, respect of persons, doctrinal compromise, false accusations, false doctrine and gross ignorance of the Bible. But these things describe all the splinters!

Dave Pack the Martyr: "my whole life has been one long, fiery trial"

Davey continues:

The word plucked is fascinating. It means “to snatch away, whether in a good or bad sense, to defend, deliver, escape, pluck, recover, rescue, save.” God intervenes in Joshua’s life and snatches him from the fire. But what was the fire? Consider. I was pulled from Laodicea, which is eventually going into the fire of the Great Tribulation (Rev. 3:16-18). Since the prophecy is symbolic, it also relates to all fiery trials. In some ways, my whole life has been one long, fiery trial. I was in a fire, stirring and poking, and I was jerked out of it. I was saved, but also helping save others (recall the names Joshua and Jeshua) through my early books and “90 Reasons to Follow the Truth” sermons that helped many thousands leave the WCG. I never looked to be the leader. I looked for a leader. I did not resign from the WCG—I was fired for defending the sheep! Neither did I leave Global—I was fired for defending the sheep! My approach, the biblical approach, was, “A shepherd stays and dies for his sheep.” I loathed the fact that other ministers and leaders just QUIT. Some of them simply disappeared into the night, thinking they were “doing the right thing.” These men thought they were “standing for the truth” when in fact they were taking the cowardly approach. When they saw wolves coming to destroy God’s flock, they bailed out—went to wait in the back of the hall for a severance check. Ironically, the men who were looking to lead were not chosen by God. The one who was not looking for personal opportunity WAS chosen. Thousands will soon have to come to grips with this.