Thursday, February 5, 2015

Elijah Dave Pack Had To Delete His Own Book In Order To Become Elijah



A reader here writes:



“Elijah Dave Pack Claims To Have Channeled Elijah's Personality and May Soon Be The Most Attacked Human On Earth in 6000 Years!”


David Pack might have learned this old trick of saying he will be attacked from Gerald Flurry. When Gerald Flurry wanted to shove Jesus out of the way and make himself out to be the prophet referred to in Deuteronomy 18:17-19, Gerald started off his five-part sermon series about it by warning that he had some wonderful “new truth” that had been revealed to him that was so wonderful that he was going to be attacked terribly for teaching it. Well, maybe Gerald should have been attacked for telling such outrageous fibs. Maybe everyone should have thrown their Bibles (and shoes and chairs) at Gerald for trying to play such a dirty, satanic trick on them. If this seemed like too strong a reaction, and they preferred to act calm and play it cool in the face of such pure evil, they could have at least just said, “The Lord rebuke thee, Gerald.”

David Pack made it sound like some church member had put this latest idea in his head that he is the Elijah. Even though David is the one who came up with all this stuff and is the one who is trying to force it on everyone else, he made it sound like others came up with the idea. This, too, is exactly what Gerald Flurry had done. Gerald had claimed that some church member had been reading the Bible, noticed Deuteronomy 18:17-19, and suggested to Gerald that he was the prophet mentioned there. Of course, humble Gerald then supposedly honestly, sincerely, prayerfully looked into the matter and realised that the PCG member was absolutely right and Gerald could now make the transition from being “The Unknown Drunk” to being “That Prophet.”

To become the Elijah, David Pack had to delete his own book that he had written called I will Send Elijah to Restore All Things!, which had supposedly proved that HWA was the Elijah. David Pack has now actually begun to accuse people of being “idolaters” if they still believe that HWA was the Elijah. When Gerald Flurry wanted to be a prophet, he bought the copyright to HWA's last book called Mystery Of The Ages and just deleted a couple lines that contradicted Gerald's “new revelation.”

What real proof does David Pack offer that he is the Elijah? Actually, none at all! His so-called “130 PROOFS” are not really proofs at all, but rather just points, thoughts, ideas, suggestions, similarities, coincidences, stories, etc. Not one of them is a real “proof” in the sense that a normal person would think of the word. But three two-hour harangues can tire people out and wear them down until they can think that surely something must have been said amidst all that noise. One of David Pack's “proofs” that HWA was not the Elijah was that HWA had not really restored all things. What David Pack meant by that was that HWA had not known about or restored any of the many new ideas and teachings that David has come up with over the years. So, David reasons, HWA could not have been the Elijah who restored all things. Some people might recall that David Pack used to teach that he was not changing anything that HWA had taught at the time of his death in 1986. David was supposedly just building on it with his new understanding. Gerald Flurry had already done the same thing in the past in his PCG. Gerald had started off by pretending to be holding fast to everything that HWA had taught, and was supposedly just building on it with all the “new revelation” that had “flooded” the PCG.
 

Elijah Dave Pack and Why He Is Immune To His Lies


From Toxic People: Narcissists in the Ministry

Many who recognize their behavior for what it is believe these leaders are conning their followers, but that’s not accurate. In fact, it’s the exact opposite. A con knows what he or she is doing but chooses to do it anyway, despite the harm it causes. The electronic lords genuinely believe that what they are doing is right, which makes them far more dangerous. In their minds, they have a higher calling than others — a closer relationship with God — making whatever they do seem justifiable to them.

If someone gets in their way, especially someone employed by them, that person is perceived as thwarting God’s will and fully deserving of the retribution they receive from the narcissistic leader. Because these leaders genuinely believe themselves to be better than others, they insist that each of their employees fall in line, regardless of how outrageous or bizarre the superstar’s demands become.

To make matters worse, nearly all of the electronic lords are hypersensitive to criticism. For insulation from disapproval, the lords surround themselves with weak-willed sycophants who wouldn’t dream of disagreeing with them. Instead, these non-entities consistently validate perceptions and behavior that deviate substantially from biblical standards. Within ministries like these, which dominate the electric church, there are two sets of rules: those for the narcissist and those for everyone else.

Within these ministries, a tacit “no-talk” rule is maintained, which keeps the eccentricities of the leader a secret from the rest of the world. And this rule is aggressively enforced. Whenever an underling balks, that person is shamed, castigated and humiliated, while — at the same time — being told that their “bad attitude” is being prayed for. If that doesn’t shame the person into submission, the verbal abuse is intensified and the person is eventually terminated. Wounded, the discarded person often abandons his or her beliefs, while blaming God for what happened, saying, “God should have done something to stop it.”

Undeterred by hurting others in the process of building God’s Kingdom on Earth, which just happens to be their kingdom as well, these narcissists regularly take advantage of others, routinely abusing those they are “called to serve.” Reasoning that the ends justify the means, they use God’s name to wound others. Whenever someone gets in their way, they misuse God’s authority to enforce their will, which certainly takes His name in vain. Believing that they have a higher calling, the evangelical lords are certain that God condones their behavior and methods, which the sycophants who surround them eagerly affirm.

The emotional carnage of wrecked lives left behind by these narcissists has become so extensive that it threatens to outnumber those blessed by their ministry efforts. At the same time, few are willing to call them to task, exposing their behavior to the light, reasoning that such whistle blowing would harm God’s work.

Wednesday, February 4, 2015

Elijah Dave Pack Claims To Have Channeled Elijah's Personality and May Soon Be The Most Attacked Human On Earth in 6000 Years!




From another visitor here who listened to some of Elijah Dave's third sermon.  The appalling narcissistic arrogance of Elijah Dave knows no boundaries.

After claiming to be Joshua for the last couple of years Dave has now advanced up to Elijah status, so much so that he claims to have taken upon himself the actual personality of the "original " Elijah!  As if some asswipe in the 21st century knows what the Elijah from a 2,000 year old manuscript actually thought and felt.  How stupid can this man get?  Oh, but it gets WORSE!

Elijah Dave now claims that he will soon be the most attacked human in 6,000 years of history.  Anything that Jesus went through pales in comparison to want Elijah Dave may soon be facing!

Elijah Dave's god has been looking after him since his immaculate birth, all through college in Pasadena while wearing his Speedo's, and through three different Church of God's where his arrogance got the better of him and he was kicked out.  His god had a part in all of that leading him to Wadsworth were it told him to build his empire and produce the worlds largest religious web site to ever exist in human history.  It's all so superfantabulous that it boggles the mind!

Speaking of Jesus, have any of you noticed how he says NOTHING about the guy in 6 hours of sermons and 130 points?  It's all about Elijah Dave.  130 "I" statements "proving" he is "Elijah."

"Without [me] God said he would strike the earth with utter destruction" "I may turn out to be the most attacked human being in the last 6000 years" "Now i understand more than ever that God had to look after me in a unique way. I guess he'd have to do that if I were just an apostle, but ..." If I were just an apostle :-) "In so many ways I have Elijah's own personality". "I'm cut from a different cloth from the rest".

Yes, we can all affirm that Elijah Dave is CERTAINLY cut from another cloth than the rest of us!

ht: Michael

Tuesday, February 3, 2015

Elijah Dave: It's Biblical That You Sell Everything You Have And Send The Money To Me


There was no way in hell I was going to sit and listen to Elijah Dave's first superfantabulous sermon.  It was 2 hours long and certainly NO COG minister deserves to be listened to for 2 hours straight!  If they cant say what they need to say in 20 minutes then they need to shut up.  130 points do not prove anything.  Shit still stinks even when 130 points are used to make it smell better.

Thankfully some of you have/are doing it.

Elijah Dave has taken a huge financial hit recently after his failed prophecies  Money did not flow in along with new members after the Feast of Tabernacles last year.  Now Elijah Dave is back telling his brain-dead members that they are to sell everything they have and send it to him.


Pack explains his interpretation of the phrase ‘all things in common’ (Acts 2:44 & 4:32): sell everything you have and send the money to him.

“It’s absolutely biblical that what we have, we sell, whatsoever we have, we give it to God’s work. That’s why we were called. You’re not allowed to hold on to your own income.”

“You are not allowed to hold on to your own assets. You have an income, you live a wonderful life, life goes on normally. But if you were called by God and you are to participate in His work and walk in His ways, you have to turn over your assets to God’s church. That’s the pattern.”

“It won’t leave you a pauper, it won’t break your life.”

ht:  Connie