When did you ever hear "When I die" from those ministers abscessed (I meant to use that word) with their own "because we won't" prophetic drool and why not?
"You don't fear the Unknown?"
"I love the Unknown"
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"Would HWA's Empire have been more successful, widespread and accepted if the heavy yoke of some of his church doctrines had been less onerous?
His idea of God's rules presented many tough pills to swallow: Sabbath, holy days, tithing, divorce and remarriage, dietary laws, secret society difficult to get in, church government, etc. If some of this had been relaxed, would he have had a greater impact---membership, income, fame? Or was this actually his real attraction? He sure knew how to make religion difficult.
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Aubrey07/05/2017 at 09:59Hi James. Why is October 2018 a possible date and not October 2017? I know the dates must line up for Christ returning for a first fruits harvest in the Spring. Just curious as to why next year and not this year?1) There does not seem to be enough time to fulfill all the things which must still happen. Even if the wars take place this summer the best part of a year would still be needed to negotiate a final peace deal, ratify it and bring in peacekeeping troops.2) Counting back from Pentecost June 6, 2022 to the sixth day of ULB April 22, is a perfect 45 days in 2022; and counting back the full 1335 days from Pentecost June 6, 2022, has the abomination being empowered to do miracles on 10 Oct 2018 with the trib beginning on Dec 24 – 25 2018 with the occupation of Jerusalem. This count fulfills Daniel 12 perfectly. The count for 2021, 1335 days back to 2017 does not fulfill the scriptures.3) In addition, the 40 years of God’s protection (Ezek 4 http://82.221.105.8/~theshini/?p=1777 ) on Judah seems to be coming to an end with the fortieth anniversary of the Egypt Israel peace treaty Oct 1978 to Oct 2018.Everything screams the trib begins in Dec 2018, but being a very cautious person I am not willing to call it as firm until the abomination is actually set up doing miracles and the New Federal Europe is coming together, once this man is scheduled to visit the Holy Place and God’s two are revealed we shall know the date of the trib for certain. James
Why is it that COG leaders seem to be constantly "finding out" who they are as a church? It has been over 22 years since UCG apostatized from their mother church and decided they knew how to do things better. At that time they claimed to know who they were and what they were doing. In the proceeding years, we saw one issue after another hit the church as they were constantly "finding" themselves. The church imploded with huge numbers of ministers and members jumping ship to form yet another splinter group who in turn claimed that they had found themselves in order to justify their existence. As all of the COG's shrink smaller and smaller, just how are they to "flourish?"Mr. Kubik expressed his appreciation for the spirit of fellowship among the elders of the general conference. He also welcomed those elders watching the webcast from home who were not able to make it to the meeting this year. He said that he was asked again what the purpose was for the recent church-wide fast we had. The Church hasn’t fasted together in anticipation of the meeting of the general conference for some time. In Isaiah 58 the prophet seems to be answering questions about fasting at that time. He then lays out the spiritual purpose of fasting: to humble ourselves before God and draw closer to Him and to make His purpose our purpose. Fasting is not to get our way; it is to orient ourselves to God’s way. Through this fast he has come to understand who and what we are. He sees how small we are but how much potential there is for growth, both spiritual and in numbers. God wants the Church to flourish.
United has never been united and they most certainly will NEVER be a "Gideon's army" into performing some mighty purpose. Just HOW can the United Church of God be "fostering and developing relationships" when the leadership of the church has split families and destroyed marriages over it ongoing in-fighting. This has been the sad legacy of the entire Church of God movement for 80 some years.Though we’re small we’re at a place where we can be united like Gideon’s army in performing God’s purpose for His Church. We’re working on a video to show the Church’s work in fostering and developing relationships across the generations that make up the Church. It’s important that we develop strong relationships among all God’s people. The younger generation coming up is very engaged in the Church and its work. We need to be ready to “hand the keys” off to those who will be the next to do that work.
UCG goes on to say this:Council of Elders SeatsRainer Salomaa (international)Aaron DeanDon WardMr. Seelig announced that the last Council spot on the ballot was too close to call. Auditors are reviewing to confirm the General Conference of Elders’ choice, which should be announced tomorrow, May 8.
He said there have also been questions about the structure and function of Ministerial and Member Services. He says it’s functional very well, and what he would like to do is put together a chart for the ministry to express how the department works and functions. Mr. Kubik is the acting director of MMS, and Chris Rowland is the administrator, and this situation has worked well. He has a lot of respect and appreciation for the work Mr. Rowland has done in that role. Kathe Myers was also hired to help Mr. Rowland administer the department, and she’s been a big help in the day-to-day function of MMS.The bandages they continue to put on everything only cover the rot underneath. After 22 years ministerial services now needs a chart for the ministry to understand what it does. After suffering huge hemorrhaging of members, the church has never recovered to be anything truly outstanding, as hard as they try.
One of the many problems I have with Armstrongism and most of Fundamentalism is the concept that "God's Chosen People" are Not Of This World, so in whatever situation we (they) find ourselves, it is His will. YIKES!
Therefore, we should not vote or support any candidate, not join any type of military or defense organization, not join a union (or probably ask for a raise or better working conditions), not protest, not own a weapon for self protection, not stand up for ourselves and never participate in any "worldly" activity. The "Chosen" are to shut-up and submit, because whoever is in charge is in their position because it is God's will. YIKES again!
Be quiet and patient and trust God to fix any problem when He sees fit.. Talk about putting your life and that of your family in someone else's hands! This is the height of the "victim mentality" so prevalent in our country today.
Can we just ignore the many despots throughout the world (and even in the business world) who wreak havoc on their citizens, employees and neighbors?
Pure lunacy! This mind-set places the general population at the mercy of the tyrants. If our founding fathers had this attitude, there would be no United States of America. Are we supposed to be patient and wait for some supernatural intervention, and if so, how long? It has been over fifty generations since Christians first began waiting on the return of a Savior. Is there an expiration date? How long do we wait to get involved and become responsible for our future?