Wednesday, May 18, 2022

Alex Groen on Dave Pack

 

More Craziness From Restored Church of God: Two More Prophet/Elijah's Emerge From Dave Pack's Church

 


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If you thought the craziness of Dave Pack's world couldn't get any crazier, then read what follows. How many more prophets and Elijahs does the Church of God need in its midst?

From an RCG source:

In addition to Alex Groen starting an organization, there are also two “prophets” that have come out of Restored, one of which has a small following.

The first one is a guy by the name of Joseph Birt. He has a number of posts on Facebook. I’ve included some of the more interesting ones in this email.







 



The second one is Alexandre Desmarais. Alexandre was kicked out of RCG in early 2020 for claiming to be none other than... drum roll... Elijah! He managed to convince his wife, two young children, his cousin, a longtime friend, and another member from Western Canada. So there are six people that follow him, including the kids. Together, they refer to themselves as “The Elijah Team.” All of those that are following Alexandre also consider themselves to be prophets.

“The Elijah Team” has produced several documents that “prove” that Alexandre is Elijah. Alexandre is from Quebec, Canada, and one of the documents supposedly proves that Elijah is from that area of the world. You can’t make this stuff up. I’ve included a couple of PDFs that they’ve produced.








 

Tuesday, May 17, 2022

Public Service Announcement: Tied Up Some Loose Ends Today Over Lunch

Joe Tkach Jr and I had an excellent 4 hours of lunch today in Salem, Oregon. Sometimes serious, some enlightenment, sometimes hilarious.  It was amazing and we both got our friendships back and in place forever more.



Dave Pack in his sickness actually trashed his own renowned sermon defining the "truth"


 

From a reader:

Since there is 22 symptoms listed (see RCG's David C Pack Is Finally Diagnosed) and the statement that there is more that could be identified, we could presumably conclude there is at least 30 symptoms being exhibited at all times throughout this last seven years. 
 
If we take this list of symptoms and create an interplay with Dave Pack's "famous" sermon; Thirty Reasons To Follow The Truth, a stark dichotomy is exposed which if one were to continue to follow Dave Pack then that very same "truth" becomes dead. 
 
Dave Pack in his sickness actually trashed his own renowned sermon defining the "truth". How?
In his 1993 sermon he concretely established that the "truth" was not tied explicitly to any man. Fast forward to 2015 and Dave Pack took 20 minutes to open a sermon (as a way to mitigate member departures) and explained that Christ as head of the church working through his apostle to establish doctrine is the basis of belief and therefore his next statement detailed the required response of the member. He said: "If you don't believe and obey all that the church teaches - you are a heretic who will go into the lake of fire."

If we go back to the same 1993 sermon, Dave Pack detailed that the "truth" was never tied to the four walls of any entity. He even quoted Herbert Armstrong who said; "if the "truth" ever ceases to be taught HERE for any reason, then we will just walk across the street and start all over."

From 2015 unto the present Dave has redefined WHERE the truth is. He emphatically stated that once a person proves what the "truth" is (in a church setting) and becomes baptized (in a church setting), that person forever forfeits the ability to question church doctrine and they no longer have the freedom to leave that same church. In both those instances, a person taking either or both pathes will lose their salvation according to Dave. He has numerous times reinforced this now mandatory belief by stating that salvation is explicitly tied to identifying WHERE the "truth" is being taught.
Dave Pack has stated the Greatest Story Never Told is all about finally establishing what the true gospel really is and it all about how salvation will come to be. The sick Dave Pack has firmly established that the true gospel message is nothing but a message about himself and the sick Dave Pack has firmly established that salvation comes from believing and obeying the words that come from the four walls of a building in Wadsworth, Ohio. 
 
Thirty reasons not to follow a sick man is easy to see. I would say there would be 60 and 90 reasons to not follow a very sick man. That is a direct inference to Dave Pack's second and third most famous sermons; Sixty and Ninety reasons To Follow The "Truth".

So what does Dave Pack really believe today? Should we even care what a sick man would give as an answer? It would after all having nothing to do with the "truth". What About The Truth

Behold Alex J. Groen - The man of God. (Dave Pack 2.0)


From an RCG source:

The Father failed with David C. Pack...

The Devil outmaneuvered Him, and he got the best of His apostle - taking over the glorious Wadsworth Campus, seizing control of the institution of power that God wanted to use to enlighten the nations...

But, ALL is not lost!!!

Behold: Alex Groen - David Pack 2.0


God has found an answer to the catastrophe. 
 
Whereas The RESTORED Church of God failed - The REVIVED Church of God WON'T. 
 
It SHALL FULFILL God's end time warning before He brings worldwide calamity!