Thursday, August 18, 2022

That Other Crackpot Prophet Claims That Without His Books Real Christians Will Be Unable To Fully Teach In The Millennium.


 

Our other favorite crackpot prophet is back with another doozy today letting the Churches of God know that unless they read his books and booklets they will be unable to FULLY teach people in this present age and in the millennium to come. Also, regular COG members cannot understand the Bible without his books and booklets.

It has always fascinated me how these men leading various COG's think their theological background is significant enough to be writing books on church teachings, prophecy, and history. None of them have a theological education outside of the Church of God. Their entire theological foundation is based upon Herbert Armstrong's interpretations of the Bible after a 6-month study in a public library, and from directly plagiarizing at least 3 books.

We should know by now that since God set into motion the ministry of the Great Bwana to Africa BEFORE the foundation of the world was ever established and foreordained him to be doubly blessed after almost being jailed, to be for us in these latter days the most important man to ever walk this earth. He is our appointed latter-day Elisha, Amos, Joshua, Zechariah, and one of the two witless witnesses.

His teachings are so mind-blowing that when the end times hit that he and only he will be able to determine WHEN it is time to flee and where to go to. No other COG can do this!

After pontificating on Herbert Armstong's Seven Laws of Success booklet, the Great Bwana writes about education:

Not only can the right education “open doors,” it helps many people become more productive. It helps people live up to more of their potential. 
 
The Apostle Peter wrote:

15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear: (1 Peter 3:15, KJV)

Don't be naive to think that you can get knowledge out of a seminary or a university. We all know by now where true education comes from and is found in these latter days. 

Only Philaldphian Christians in the CORRECT Church will have the Holy Spirit and be able to discern these things:

How can Philadelphian Christians take action and instruct many if they are not prepared? 
 
First, notice that the Holy Spirit will assist according to Jesus:

18 You will be brought before governors and kings for My sake, as a testimony to them and to the Gentiles. 19 But when they deliver you up, do not worry about how or what you should speak. For it will be given to you in that hour what you should speak; 20 for it is not you who speak, but the Spirit of your Father who speaks in you. (Matthew 10:18-20)

No Christian outside of the improperly named "continuing" Church of "god" can ever have the Holy Spirit working through them, even though the CCG denies the Holy Spirit. 

Even so, his members need to be ready to give an answer when necessary:

You need to be prepared as the Apostle Peter wrote to be able to give answers to those who ask. 
 
The Apostle Paul wrote the following:

15 Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. (2 Timothy 2:14, NKJV)
15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. (2 Timothy 2:15, KJV)

The Great Bwana goes on to say that Christians need to study the Bible diligently and rely upon church literature to explain it all to them.

The Bible is the word of truth. Christians need to study diligently, which includes not only reading the Bible and paying attention to sermons, but also to read church literature. 
 
One of the reasons is that parts of the Bible are not always easy to understand, as the Apostle Peter pointed out:

14 Therefore, beloved, looking forward to these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, without spot and blameless; 15 and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation — as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, 16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures. (2 Peter 3:14-16, NKJV)

The Great Bwana then has the audacity to write this:

Notice again one is to be ‘diligent’ so one will not be moved by untaught and unstable people.

Never in the history of the church has it been overrun by so many false teachers and self-appointed prophets and apostles. Never have we seen such a large number of unstable men as we have leading various COGs today!

Church members are too stupid to understand the Bible and need to be "taught" by the Great Bwana on what it actually means. That is the entire purpose of the ministry today in the church.

This also means that God’s people need to be taught. 
 
In addition to studying the word of God on their own, this is part of why God has a ministry:

26 Now an angel of the Lord spoke to Philip, saying, “Arise and go toward the south along the road which goes down from Jerusalem to Gaza.” This is desert. 27 So he arose and went. And behold, a man of Ethiopia, a eunuch of great authority under Candace the queen of the Ethiopians, who had charge of all her treasury, and had come to Jerusalem to worship, 28 was returning. And sitting in his chariot, he was reading Isaiah the prophet. 29 Then the Spirit said to Philip, “Go near and overtake this chariot.” 30 So Philip ran to him, and heard him reading the prophet Isaiah, and said, “Do you understand what you are reading?” 31 And he said, “How can I, unless someone guides me?” And he asked Philip to come up and sit with him. (Acts 8:26-31)

The ministry and the writings of the Prophet/Apostle/Great Bwana are the necessary means by which church members are educated.

Yes, the true ministry helps people be able to speak the truth in love. 
 
Now that books are more widely available than in New Testament times, books from ministers can also assist in teaching end time Christians. 
 
While we have many, the following look to be particularly applicable to the ‘instruct many’ prophecy related to predominantly Philadelphian Christians:

The Great Bwana then goes on to list several of his books and booklets and then makes this proclamation:

Now that does not mean our other books and booklets are not important to know–and they can also be referred to–and all are found at the following link: CCOG Free Books and Booklets. 

Only true Phialdphians who are members of the improperly named "continuing" Church of "god" will be able to instruct people during the Millenium with the TRUTH! Other lesser Phlialdlaphains (if they make it through the tribulation) who have not read the Great Bwana's significant works will be unable to fully teach church history, heresies, and prophetic understanding! Read it and weep Gerald Weston and Dave Pack!!! 

Non-Philadelphians will not know enough to instruct many in this age. Oh yes, they will teach people during the millennium. But, the lack of knowledge of church history, development of heresies, and proper prophetic understanding will prevent most non-Philadelphians from fulfilling the “instruct many” prophecy in Daniel 11:32. 

In the millennium those who survived will be eager to read about the history of the Great Bwana and his little group. That is why Bwana Bob has written his books. They will be teaching tools in the Millenium! 

Because some of what people in the world will be interested in will be a bit historical, and to them unique, the listed books were written. These books are part of the CCOG preparation for the short work. 

So there you have it, brethren! Get off your lazy Laodicean butts and support the greatest work the church has ever seen in the entire scope of Christian history! However, you must be willing to let God use you when he reveals the great Bwana to Africa is his true remnant leader! 

If YOU are willing to be used by God and will support the true Philadelphian remnant leader, God may well have YOU instruct many. Either directly, or at least, indirectly.

Start studying Bwana Bob's books right now! You have a huge teaching job ahead of you! 


Wednesday, August 17, 2022

Thank Goodness My COG Is Not Like Dave Pack's Church!



This deserves more discussion:

This guy's hold on people after all the false prophecies and teachings is so sad and a lesson. Many in the COGs think to themselves, "He is a nut. We're not like that." 

Yeah, not quite. But you still follow the teachings of a man, HWA, who made false prophecies and teachings. And make no mistake, many of your beliefs are based on Armstrong's teachings and not direct teachings from the Bible. 

Just a few of Armstrong's false teachings not in the Bible that require little argument to rebut: 

1) Our doctrine (or being in select organizations) makes us real Christians. No, According to the BIBLE, Faith in Christ's atoning blood is what makes one a real Christian. Please show me where more than faith is required. 

2) You must understand the supposed meaning of the holy days to be a real Christian. No, this is all Armstrong. The Bible simply does not state anything of the sort. Before Sinai and after Christ (for new believers) there is no evidence of this teaching. Yet despite this, groups like COGWA require not just observance but yet even more indoctrinated belief of the MEANING of these days and bluntly states, "Without an understanding of the holy days you are not called." Sad.

3) The real church will be called "The Church of God". These groups actually believe that having that name is a prerequisite to being a legitimate church. First off, "Church of God" is incorrectly translated into English from the Greek "Ekklesia Theos" which means "those of God's who are called out". It's a description, not a title of an organization. 

Further, the term "church" draws from the greek "kurikon" maybe passing through the Germanic "kirche" (which was not itself used before the 8th century). "Church" more directly came from the old English "cirice" and "Circe" who btw was a pagan greek goddess, but maybe that is neither here nor there. But, still, neither of these terms were used before the 13th century. And "church" itself was not used until the late 16th century. King James had the Bible translated in 1611 and set forth several rules for translation to support terms used by the Anglican "Church" one such rule was that the term ekklesia be translated as "church" rather than the more accurate "assembly" or "congregation" or "called out".  

So, what we have is a doctrine of the COGs that would indicate no one was a true group of real Christians until they used the term "church of God" which never occurred until the 17th century. Further, there are pagan elements to the etymology of the term "church". Shame! Further still (and painfully silly for most Christians to read), this argues against the ridiculous COG claim that their "church of god" goes back to the time of Jesus. How could it, if they must be called "the Church of God"? The COGs actually hang onto this false English translation as a doctrine.

Strangely enough this ridiculous doctrine actually led to my further questioning of the COGs. I agree the whole thing is silly, but it is a doctrine. 

Sorry, longer than I intended. There are many more false and silly doctrines, but I think the three above are indefensible if you claim your doctrines are from the Bible and not fully founded on the doctrine of Herbert Armstrong. 


Tuesday, August 16, 2022

Dave Pack Reemerges And Is Crazier Than Ever


 

Seven Times Fraud

 

On August 15, 2022, David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God presented, “The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 387)” without the Tammuz Cooking Utensils. The table now seems sparse by comparison.

 

This entire message is speculation-rich, but can be summed up this way:

 

Since the “not-really-a-50-day-count to Trumpets” did not go over well with the marketing team, Dave reached into his top hat and pulled out a 40-day-count rabbit.

 

That's right. Instead of counting 50-days to Trumpets, the brethren now need to count 40-days starting tonight at sunset, which begins Av 20. The Bible is loaded with 40-day events making it much more appealing to the focus group.

 

 

World events will start tomorrow when God begins to punish all the nations of Israel for one month. Or…nothing will happen. Stay tuned to find out.

 

@ 00:00 After saying I was done, I don’t know how many times in the past, I’m speaking again for one reason and one only. I’ve long believed that a final message is given that would clear everything up just before events take place.

 

@ 01:03 …a single message closes the Mystery of God and prepares the way before God.

 

Learning disability alert. History repeats itself.

 

@ 01:20 I’ve wanted to end this series more times than you can possibly know. But I hope you’ll appreciate what I’m going to say. I fear God. And I’ve always believed that if something big must be said at the last minute, then I’ve gotta say it even after saying, “the series is over,” how many times? You’ll just have to believe that humanly, I cannot possibly want to be up here.

 

Everyone all around you and those you do not know across the internets want the same thing for you, Dave. They just want it all to be over. Count me in as a huge fan of that idea. Sadly, the signs are not good.

 

@ 04:29 You’re blessed if you got to a day, not a Coming. We’ve talked about that. It’s called the 1335. In other words, if you made it to 45-days before Trumpets in the year of application, then you’re blessed. You’re settled. And that was over four days ago.

 

Dave still clings to the idea that the 1335 began last Thursday night at sunset. Nothing tangible manifested on Av 15. Just as nothing tangible manifested on Av 7 or Av 10 as he previously said. Or just pick a previous date he taught going back to 2013. They all have the same “look and feel” of nothingness.

 

For the sake of a little background, when I resigned from The Restored Church of God in March of 2021, Dave was teaching that the church was “in the midst of the 1335,” which I did not believe. He told us if we were still there, we had “made it” and back then we “were settled.”

 

I did not believe him. So much so, that I told Bradford G. Schleifer and then later, Kenneth M. Orel directly that I did not believe the 1335 had begun yet. It came to pass after I left RCG that David C. Pack ALSO agreed with me and did not believe it.

 

Yet, here we are again. The 1335 started and nobody saw it happen. Again. Everyone just woke up that day and it was here. Again. Because Dave says so. Again.

 

How can you prove that? Well, you disbelieving S.O.B., the proof is self-evident. Mr. Pack is an apostle and may or may not be Elijah in some way, so…that’s your proof.

 

It is true because Dave says it is true—mic drop.

 

@ 06:07 A simple passing of time forced this conclusion. There are 41 days to Trumpets this year and 29 of them, Elul, are bad. And Christ is still not here.

 

This is now my new favorite quote: “A simple passing of time forced this conclusion.”

 

That will be repeated in future articles after nothing happens again tonight. Much can be said about what members of The Restored Church of God should be “forced to conclude” with “a simple passing of time” when it comes to “Mr. Pack,” but I will save that for later.

 

@ 06:31 I’m gonna prove that month to you and shock you by another unbelievable series of mistranslations. You won’t believe them. I’m still in shock.

 

#1 - You should not believe it.

#2 - Do not be shocked.

 

The mistranslation is only labeled that way because it does not fit the Dave Pack narrative. He has often looked at the Strong’s definitions and cherry-picked a possible meaning from the list they usually give. 

 

Spoiler Alert: He picked the one possibility that fits his current narrative. Please continue to not be shocked.

 

Dave has accused Thomas Jefferson of cutting words out of his Bible as he likes to tell it, "all the verses he didn't like." Historians know more about the facts behind the Jefferson Bible than I do. The point is that David C. Pack takes scissors and paste to his Bible all the time. He just did it again for Part 387.

 

Dave does not like what the Bible really says, so he changes the words to fit his delusion. That “truth will be self-evident” in a moment.

 

@ 08:40 It turns out there was only one kingdom before the Day of the Lord. We couldn’t settle on this. God had to force it on us through a lack of time. Now, the biggest part of that other than it’s been 13 days since I spoke, passing of time. So, we’re chopping days off the front.

 

@ 09:16 But we’ve lost 13 days since I spoke. But that’s nothing compared to one whole month we lost at the end of that period. So, that’s pinched us and demanded we take another look. And the Mystery of God wouldn’t be over if we hadn’t explained this.

 

Dave does not explain to the church why he was silent for so long. That is still a secret only those at Headquarters know the answer to. Since I understand how things run across the street, know that there is something Dave does not want to get out. And it had nothing to do with "figuring out prophecy."

 

Listen for not only what they say, but what they do not say. There are times when something is said only to the staff or only to the local congregation that never gets distributed. If I had a nest egg, I would bet on that.

 

 

Here comes a classic “Dave-Got-Tricked” by others into making him think he knew what he was preaching only to be duped because the Bible is chock full of wrong words.

 

@ 09:38 A bombshell revelation drove this message.

 

The big build-up that Dave leads to is that in Leviticus 26, four verses use the phrase "seven times" in the "blessings and cursings" chapter. According to him, the word does not mean "seven times" but "a week." So, it is not talking about intensity, but duration.

 

If only he could punch those Christmas-keeping translators in the face.

 

@ 20:29 Four times “seven times.” Except every one of them is mistranslated. No one ever thought to check. Yours truly included.

 

@ 20:56 Each time it says “seven,” if you look up the word, it means “a week.” “Times” is simply not there. It’s invented. It is not there. “I will punish you seven.” And you go look up the word in the Hebrew and it means “a week.”

 

@ 22:01 So you can go look it up. I think it’s number 7651 in the Hebrew and it means a week.

 

When you listen to the audio, you can almost hear his nose growing longer and longer.



Seven Times Mistranslated

Since four verses use "seven" as code for a "week" that means it is math time. Again.

 

7-Day-Week x 4 Verses = 28 Days = One month of Israel’s punishment = Elul

 

Before anyone gets excited that Dave finally cracked The Da Vinci Code hidden in the biblical texts, if you have access to e-Sword or Strong’s Concordance or BibleHub.com, you can easily prove his assertion to be flat-out false.

 

He may have been able to fool his audience at the moment that those stupid translators did not know what they were doing and caused Dave to misread his Bible for decades, but anyone who fact-checks him will see it in the proper light.

 

Here are some facts. Yes, I know…Dave hates facts.

 

Leviticus 26:18, :21, :24, and :28 use the Hebrew word sheba (H7651) translated as “seven times.” Sheba appears 395 times in the Old Testament. It always means “seven” of something. It is a number.

 

e-Sword - sheba (H7651)

a primitive cardinal number; seven (as the sacred full one); also (adverbially) seven timesby implication a week; by extension an indefinite number: - (+ by) seven ([-fold], -s, [-teen, -teenth], -th, times).

 

So, this is where Dave found that prophetic parachute. He saw that word appeared four times in Leviticus 26, so the math just kind of created itself. Forgot the fact of how it is used all throughout the Bible as “a primitive cardinal number.”

 

In Leviticus, there are 46 mentions of the word sheba (H7651) as “seven.”

 

“seven times”

“seven times more”

“seven days”

“seven sabbaths”

“seven lambs”

“seven years”

 

The word translated into English as “week” only appears in the Old Testament three times. H7620 is shabua. Leviticus 26 does not use that word. Dave knows this.

 

You will find the term “seven days” (H7651) (H3117) in 26 verses just in Leviticus. Dave knows this.

 

If Leviticus 26:18, :21, :24, and :28 meant a space of time, it would have been written as sheba yom. Dave knows this.

 

If God meant the translators to say “week” instead of “seven times” He could have done that. Dave knows this.

 

The word sheba (H7651) is never translated as “week” and guess what? Dave knows this.

 

No matter how hard he tries, just like never finding a full 50-days to count to Trumpets, Dave cannot find anywhere in the Bible that proves Leviticus 26 is supposed to use the word “week” and not just “seven” for intensity. He did not prove his point and he cannot prove his point.

 

He has done this countless times before. It is kind of a go-to when times are tough. I wonder if the folks still inside The Restored Church of God are too exhausted to notice. I hope they do look up the word as Dave instructs.

 

Dave continues to show his true colors in these desperate times. Again. I often repeat the same phrase: David C. Pack tells you everything you need to hear to make a judgment call if he is true or not.

 

Right before everyone’s eyes, he cut out the word “times” and pasted in the word “week.” I can envision Thomas Jefferson shaking his finger at Dave in the Kingdom.

 

In the end, the teaching of The Worldwide Church of God was correct. Those “seven times” in Leviticus 26 mean “intensity” and not “a space of time.” But Dave was pinned against the wall and needed to find some way out of the “not-really-a-50-day-count to Trumpets” and a cool “40-day-count” fits like O.J.’s glove.

 

God says His word is purified seven times, but maybe He was just being optimistic.

 

Surely the God who created the universe had no control over which English words made it into our Bibles. Is God in heaven shrugging, “Hey, those pig-eating translators just wouldn't listen to Me. Now, poor Dave is all confused and looks like a fool for 9-years running. Oops. That is on Me.”

 

Using Dave’s reasoning, we could now wonder if God meant His word is purified for just one week.

 

The glaring point is always: David C. Pack is not wrong. The Bible is wrong.

 

Facts and reality tell a different story. Sheba (H7651) does not mean “week.” Nope. Never.

 

This is worth repeating:

 

@ 20:56 Each time it says “seven,” if you look up the word, it means “a week.” “Times” is simply not there. It’s invented. It is not there.

 

Just like the word “week” is not there, Dave. It is there only in your mind because you need it to be.

 

 

Dave’s confidence was at an all-time high when he declared how certain he was.

 

@ 29:40 So, I’m gonna tell you on God’s authority, there is no way Christ is coming tonight.

 

That was in reference to Monday night. Last night.

 

I do not need God’s authority to declare this right now:

 

“There is no way Christ is coming tonight.”

 

How do I know this? “A simple passing of time forced this conclusion.”

 

David C. Pack is a false prophet and a false apostle who makes up theories as to what the Bible says and has a history established since 2013 that he is a biblical fraud. God does not back him up and God will not back him up.

 

He pushes the 40-day count again and then wonders if they heard him the first time.

 

@ 35:15 That’s why I’m gonna tell you absolutely I’m sure nothing will happen tonight.

 

In honor of Dave being right, I will borrow his words and apply them now.

 

“Absolutely I’m sure nothing will happen tonight.”

 

How do I know this? “A simple passing of time forced this conclusion.”

 

 


For a 44-minute message after a 13-day absence, this really did not have a lot of meat on the bones. There was one moment that did peak my attention.

 

Watch it to gain the full effect.

 



@ 39:23 I mean, we’ve got people so wicked trying, besieging us. I finally came to understand what Habakkuk 2:5 is. The wicked compassing the righteous. People who were once with us are more wicked almost than the devil. And we got some of our brethren seem to wanna listen to what they say. It’s strange.

 

Who is he talking about? What does he mean by “wicked”? That comment deserves a dedicated article and I will add that to my To-Do List.

 

How do you top that? I mean, the rest of the message is a real downer by comparison.

 

@ 42:37 …there’s a final message that clears up the Mystery. I promise you, you heard things today in this short message. We’ve got this…This is the picture.

 

Yes. Those people “heard things today” all right. But does anyone think that this is “the final message” or “this is the picture”? I am on the skeptic side of the camp, in case there was any doubt.

 

Either world events happen tomorrow to begin the punishment for all of Israel or Dave digs back into his Bible to find a 30-day count. Then a 20-day count. Then a 10-day count. Then a 7-day count. Then a 3-day count. Then a “big fat never mind because it was The Last Great Day all along!”

 

In less than 30 hours, David C. Pack will prove me right. Again.

 

He will prove himself to be a biblical fraud. Again.

 

Is he delusional or is he lying? My meter is REALLY starting to tip the other way. 

 

Marc Cebrian


See:  Seven Times Fraud