Monday, July 31, 2023

Dave Pack: The kingdom of God occurs at the split-second of sunset on September 29, 2023


Goofy Ideas

 

The title of this article was made self-evident after about sixty seconds of “The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 461)” on July 29, 2023. David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God opened with a feeble excuse for why nothing happened on Av 10 (July 28).

 

This is the short version of what he said during Part 460 last week. Feel free to loop it as you read.



Flashback Part 460 – July 22, 2023

@ 1:26:15 What would I say next week? “Sorry, you know, set aside Av 10. Just blow it off. It was a mistake. Let’s just keep going.”

 

Perhaps David C. Pack is a prophet after all because his mocking statement a week earlier came to pass. This is precisely what he tells the brethren of The Restored Church of God to do. His own lips curse him.




Part 461 – July 29, 2023

@ 00:04 Well, this is an important message. I knew as early as maybe about Tuesday (Monday, perhaps) that nothing was gonna happen on Av 10, and I want you to know what it was [chuckles] that caused US to understand that. WE did more research, and the Jews actually believe the Messiah will be born on Av 9 or 10. And many of them believe that this is the day that Christ will come. Now, you’ll have to understand almost the moment I heard that; I knew it. There was no way it could be because God would never reveal to the Jews who murdered Him when He would either be born or arrive as the Messiah. And a lot of the goofy ideas that were attached to it made it even worse. They’re the last people who could know a date that no man knows.

 

As it turns out, Av 10 (July 28) was the goofy idea. Dave loves to brag about how soon "he knew" he would fail. He knew by Monday, perhaps, that Part 460 was filled with goofy ideas. What does it say about those of us who knew he would fail before he opened his mouth? That should freak out the enablers at Headquarters.

 

Part 461 has some seriously goofy ideas.

 

• The Kingdom of God arrives on Opening Night of The Feast of Tabernacles.

• This occurs at the split-second of sunset on September 29, 2023.

• Tishrei 15 is the “midst of the years” between two eight-year periods.

• The Last Days began during the FOT in 2015 and will last sixteen years.

• Russian President Vladimir Putin is no longer the Sixth King of Revelation 17.

• The Series is NOT over.

• More “fairly dramatic” financial cuts are coming to RCG Headquarters.

 

 

The first 94 seconds of Part 461 are worth closer attention because it invokes profound implications. On July 22, David C. Pack wasted 92 minutes for everyone at Headquarters. His arguments were so non-biblical and feeble even he could not buy them for three whole days.

 

Within sixty seconds, one week later, he casually threw out all his own “proofs” with a goofy excuse and just moved on. He was eager to get past the goofy ideas of last week so he could focus on his new goofy ideas this week. And we continue to wonder why nobody walked out.

 

One of the reasons that people do not flee from The Restored Church of God is because they forget. Whether intentional or accidental, the result is the same: They miss vital context for what they hear today because they already forgot what he said yesterday. Only by having that context can they prove from their Bibles that David C. Pack is a blaspheming liar not guided by the Holy Spirit. That is a big deal.

 

Those that cope by ignoring the Series do themselves a great disservice. Ignoring the problem does not make it go away. The sharpest tool in the exrcg.org toolkit is David C. Pack exposing David C. Pack as a biblical fraud, false prophet, hypocrite, and professional deceiver.

 

Fine. Set aside Av 10. It is now acceptable church doctrine to blow it off. It was clearly a research mistake. Have blind faith and just keep going.

 

But, before you make peace with that, un-forget what David C. Pack said seven days earlier.

 

Flashback Part 460 – July 22, 2023

@ 52:26 I'm gonna clarify something that is most powerful. God help the church around the world to understand what I’m gonna show you right now.

 

Would the true God help the church understand error?

 

@ 53:54 It's telling you (I'm gonna say this very carefully) in several ways. It's telling you Av 10 is the day God uses to start years.

 

Very carefully, the Bible was NOT telling anyone that. David C. Pack made it up. Otherwise, how could he abandon it so quickly? The truth is to be held onto. David C. Pack cast the Av 10 "knowledge" aside like garbage.

 

@ 56:39 If this year starts on Av 10. It’s impossible to say it doesn’t. It’s impossible…

 

David C. Pack: the man who makes the impossible possible. Seven days later, he teaches the church the year starts on The Feast of Tabernacles, not Av 10. One week later, it was not so impossible.

 

@ 1:17:31 Tell me why I figured out this date now.

 

Because the date the week before failed, he had to quickly find a new one.

 

@ 1:17:45 I had no idea how to read it. Now I do. And so do you.

 

One week later, he still does not know how to read it.

 

@ 1:18:53 And we were never gonna figure that out. We were never ever ever gonna figure that out until we were shown by God Av 10.

 

David C. Pack credits God with the Av 10 understanding. Three days later, he blows it off. While speaking in God’s name, using God’s authority, David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God falsely taught doctrine to the brethren. He took God’s name in vain.

 

Peter warned of false teachers. By his own words and by his own admission, David C. Pack is a false teacher. That is not an accusation. It is an observation. An observation that can only be grasped if you remember what the man said seven days prior.

 

Each time he credits God for leading the church into some new false doctrine, David C. Pack blasphemes God. This is why remembering is so vital.

 

@ 1:19:49 The only date you can use as the year is the one God is working off of. Av 10. I call it “The Iron Date” ‘cause it’s this day that, apparently, God raises all of us and raises Elijah.

 

The Iron Date rusted to dust within three days. Just think of all the other goofy ideas that will erode before next week.

 

@ 1:26:07 Now, it took a long time to learn a plain date where I could never come to another one. I could never come to another one. You could never. There's no way.

 

@ 1:26:35 I could never come back to another date.

 

@ 1:31:16 I’ll never move Av 10. If I had to wait five more years, I’m not gonna move Av 10. I just wouldn’t understand how the Mystery is cleared up. 

 

He doubted, dismissed, studied, found, prepared, and delivered a new date that “could never come” within seven days. Trusting in the words of David C. Pack is like trusting in the staff of a broken reed. Do so, and it will go into your hand and pierce it.

 

@ 1:26:15 What would I say next week? “Sorry, you know, set aside Av 10. Just blow it off. It was a mistake. Let’s just keep going.”

 

The dark spirits that toy with his mind ease the words from his lips that prove who and what he is. It should make you shudder when you see David C. Pack’s mockings become real while his doctrines fail. Pray that this blind, lost man repents.

 

@ 1:26:23 It’s a miracle that we found there was another year there and in other places. It’s a miracle that that happened.

 

That was as much a miracle as the stain that looks like the Virgin Mary he discovered in his underwear. “Hey honey, come take a look at this. Is it a coincidence I found this today?”

 

 

Remembering last week frames this week. We are still in the first 94 seconds of Part 461.

 

Part 461 – July 29, 2023

@ 00:04 Well, this is an important message. I knew as early as maybe about Tuesday (Monday, perhaps) that nothing was gonna happen on Av 10…almost the moment I heard that, I knew it.

 

@ 01:23 It’s the greatest reason, I’ll say, initially the greatest initial reason I knew nothing would happen.

 

David C. Pack knew as early as maybe Tuesday or Monday perhaps that NOTHING would happen. If what he proclaims is true, then Headquarters blatantly lied to the brethren of The Restored Church of God.

 

Read the Pathetic Update posted in Member Services on Wednesday, July 26. As you read, try to find the words that explain “nothing would happen on Av 10.”

 

Prophecy Update – Wednesday, July 26, 2023

All in the last message holds, but one principle from Part 459 should be factored in. Habakkuk 2:3 says what we are awaiting could tarry—recall the Hebrew is, “though (if, when) it tarry, wait for it”! As asked on the Sabbath, might God dock off more days? Other material learned indicates it will delay, but cannot go long. If so, keep watching!

 

Instead of letting the brethren know "nothing would happen" on Friday, they instructed them to keep watching. How is that not a lie? How are Church Administration and all the hirelings at Headquarters (I’m talking to you, Bradford G. Schleifer) not liars? How is that posting not fraud to the core?

 

They knew and said nothing. They let the brethren hold on to empty hope for the next few days while NONE of the Headquarters ministers held the same illusion of false hope. David C. Pack put his head on his pillow Thursday night, not wondering about it even a little bit. So much for outgoing love and concern.

 

Men who say they love the brethren lie to the brethren. Men who say they want to care for the sheep lie to the sheep.

 

The new “delay” of Part 461 is two months long, the Opening Night of The Feast of Tabernacles at the split-second of sunset on September 29, 2023. How is that even in the neighborhood of “cannot go long?”

 

Is David C. Pack a man of his word who can be trusted with what he says? Is there anyone with integrity left at Headquarters?

 

 

Another significant element of the first 94 seconds is just goofy. Really goofy. But even something goofy can expose how two-faced David C. Pack is. He is a well-practiced hypocrite when it comes to choosing when a fact is good or bad. It always depends on how he needs to spin it. On that, consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.

 

Once again, the Jews seem to ruin everything.

 

Part 461 – July 29, 2023

@ 00:11 I knew…that nothing was gonna happen on Av 10…WE did more research, and the Jews actually believe…And many of them believe…almost the moment I heard that, I knew it.

 

The full text was at the beginning of the article. The point is: Dave changed his mind about Av 10 based upon what he discovered the Jewish people believed. You could ask why he did not research that sooner.

 

The Restored Church of God

There’s never enough time to do things right.™

 

@ 01:11 Now, that may be a strange thing for you to hear, but I didn’t know that they believe it. I wish I had before I spoke. But it caused many other things to come clear. It’s the greatest reason, I’ll say, initially the greatest initial reason I knew nothing would happen.

 

It could not possibly be the date because the Jews believe in the significance of Av 10. This is only the beginning of goofy because the Jews keep the Sabbath and the Holy Days, but Dave has no issue with that.

 

David C. Pack invalidated 91 minutes of prophetic teaching sourced from God’s word with the support of his two “capable” assistants because…well, the Jews believe something. He faithlessly used extrabiblical information to supersede revealed knowledge “shown by God” about when the Kingdom would arrive. This was inspired preaching through a chosen vessel, the only living apostle. But all of it was thwarted by the beliefs of the Jews.

 

David C. Pack's paltry excuse gets even thinner.

 

If anyone listening to Part 461 remembers one of the big points from Part 460, they should have felt slightly insulted. David C. Pack counts on the brethren NOT remembering what he just said. He gets on his knees each morning, praying the members suffer from the exact short-term memory loss that he does.

 

The power of his prayers must not be crossing my threshold because I remember Part 460 all too well.

 

This next portion is a worthy entry for David C. Pack’s Gallery of Stupid. I let it go last week, but Dave breathed life into its newsworthiness.

 

While making a crucial point about the significance of the fast he kept reading about and how it tied into the midst of the years, he cited WHAT THE JEWS BELIEVE as a proof to show how Av 10 was so significant to God.

 

Flashback Part 460 – July 22, 2023

@ 50:28 …all the gold and silver. Took it to Babylon. Everything that had been Jerusalem and its people, its laws, and its priesthood came to a screeching, complete, burnt-to-a-crisp, all of it, walls gone and on Av 10. Hence, Jews fast for about 23 days between these certain periods. That’s what they fast for. They’re mourning. And they did it for 70 years.

 

Dave teaches fasting was on God's mind. Israel fasted on Av 9 and was taken into captivity on Av 10. The historic significance proved future significance.

 

What the Jews believed proved his point. But one week later, something else the Jews believed about the very same day invalidated his point. He picks and chooses when something applies and when it does not. Those poor Jews just cannot get a break with him.

 

But that is not the stupid part. He said, “Jews fast for about 23 days.”

 

Fasting for 23 days is not called mourning. It is called suicide. Even Muslims know during the month of Ramadan to eat and drink after the sun goes down. A speedy internet search proves David C. Pack needs those new glasses to read his notes more carefully.

 

On Tammuz 17, the Jews fast from sunrise to sunset for one day. It is called Shiva Asar B'Tammuz. 22 days later, they fast again, starting on Av 9 at sunset until sunset on Av 10. This is called Tisha B’Av. Two fasts occur between 23 days. Jews do not fast for 23 days, which is a little different.

 

 

Wow. That was the first 94 seconds of “The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 461)” on July 29, 2023. When it comes to goofy ideas, David C. Pack is king. He is the master of goofy ideas. He is the most prolific generator of goofy ideas the world has ever seen.

 

If you think David C. Pack will wait quietly until the Feast of Tabernacles, deep down, you know that is a really goofy idea. 


Marc Cebrian

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CGI and Tattoos


 

From a reader:

Church of God International take on tattoos.

Tattoos, cuttings in the flesh, and cutting the edges of the hair and beard were apparently associated with pagan religious practices at the time, so the underlying law, which is still in place, is: Don't attempt to serve God the same way the heathen serve their false gods and stay far away from superstitious and magical rites. 
 
It is probable that some of those practices were magical rites designed to bring good luck. God is simply telling the Israelites to rely on Him and avoid putting their trust in magic and superstition for healthy crops, babies, etc. Archaeologists have uncovered evidence for some of these customs, but there are still uncertainties about many of the specifics pertaining to them. 
 
Because of my age and background, when I see tattoos, I do not associate them with anything positive. However, I realize that the people who get them today usually do so for reasons other than magical or religious or as a sign of servitude, and since I usually don't know their motives for getting tattooed, I cannot tell them they are in violation of God's law. The most I could do would be to say to them that I think their tattoos are unbecoming and that someday they will most likely regret having gotten them. 
 
The specific commandments within the Torah tell us something about how the timeless, universal Law of God applies to specific circumstances common to the time in which the Law was given to Israel. For example, Moses commands that a parapet be put on the roof of one's house (Deuteronomy 22:8). The purpose of that law was for the protection of the people who would go up on the roof and use it as a living area. Have I dis- obeyed that law by not putting a parapet around the roof of my house? No, of course not. My roof is not used as a living area; I've never had or served a single meal upon it. But I am to obey the underlying universal principle, which means that if I dig a swimming pool in my backyard, I must fence it in or do something to make sure my neighbor's children don't wander into it. It's called loving one's neighbor as oneself—and that is the timeless principle (law) underlying the parapet instruction.

LCG: "True Disciples" Don't Skip Church On Saturday


Doug Winnail is hard at work again guilting LCG members who do not show up every single week for church services. A family day at the park or the zoo is far more spiritually beneficial than wasting 2 1/2 hours listening to canned sermons that are from the 1970's or straight out of a church publication.


The Importance of Fellowship: David wrote, “How good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity” (Psalm 133:1). Jesus enjoyed and looks forward to enjoying the opportunity of future fellowship with His called and chosen disciples (Luke 22:15–16). He also stated that His true disciples would be recognized by the love they have for one another (John 13:35). In the same manner, the Apostle Paul urged Christians, “let us consider one another in order to stir up love and good works, not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as is the manner of some, but exhorting one another, and so much the more as you see the Day [of Christ’s return] approaching” (Hebrews 10:24–25). The Sabbath is a wonderful time to enjoy the opportunity to fellowship with God, with Jesus Christ, and with others of like mind.

Have a profitable Sabbath,

Douglas S. Winnail