Monday, July 31, 2023

Dave Pack: The kingdom of God occurs at the split-second of sunset on September 29, 2023


Goofy Ideas

 

The title of this article was made self-evident after about sixty seconds of “The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 461)” on July 29, 2023. David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God opened with a feeble excuse for why nothing happened on Av 10 (July 28).

 

This is the short version of what he said during Part 460 last week. Feel free to loop it as you read.



Flashback Part 460 – July 22, 2023

@ 1:26:15 What would I say next week? “Sorry, you know, set aside Av 10. Just blow it off. It was a mistake. Let’s just keep going.”

 

Perhaps David C. Pack is a prophet after all because his mocking statement a week earlier came to pass. This is precisely what he tells the brethren of The Restored Church of God to do. His own lips curse him.




Part 461 – July 29, 2023

@ 00:04 Well, this is an important message. I knew as early as maybe about Tuesday (Monday, perhaps) that nothing was gonna happen on Av 10, and I want you to know what it was [chuckles] that caused US to understand that. WE did more research, and the Jews actually believe the Messiah will be born on Av 9 or 10. And many of them believe that this is the day that Christ will come. Now, you’ll have to understand almost the moment I heard that; I knew it. There was no way it could be because God would never reveal to the Jews who murdered Him when He would either be born or arrive as the Messiah. And a lot of the goofy ideas that were attached to it made it even worse. They’re the last people who could know a date that no man knows.

 

As it turns out, Av 10 (July 28) was the goofy idea. Dave loves to brag about how soon "he knew" he would fail. He knew by Monday, perhaps, that Part 460 was filled with goofy ideas. What does it say about those of us who knew he would fail before he opened his mouth? That should freak out the enablers at Headquarters.

 

Part 461 has some seriously goofy ideas.

 

• The Kingdom of God arrives on Opening Night of The Feast of Tabernacles.

• This occurs at the split-second of sunset on September 29, 2023.

• Tishrei 15 is the “midst of the years” between two eight-year periods.

• The Last Days began during the FOT in 2015 and will last sixteen years.

• Russian President Vladimir Putin is no longer the Sixth King of Revelation 17.

• The Series is NOT over.

• More “fairly dramatic” financial cuts are coming to RCG Headquarters.

 

 

The first 94 seconds of Part 461 are worth closer attention because it invokes profound implications. On July 22, David C. Pack wasted 92 minutes for everyone at Headquarters. His arguments were so non-biblical and feeble even he could not buy them for three whole days.

 

Within sixty seconds, one week later, he casually threw out all his own “proofs” with a goofy excuse and just moved on. He was eager to get past the goofy ideas of last week so he could focus on his new goofy ideas this week. And we continue to wonder why nobody walked out.

 

One of the reasons that people do not flee from The Restored Church of God is because they forget. Whether intentional or accidental, the result is the same: They miss vital context for what they hear today because they already forgot what he said yesterday. Only by having that context can they prove from their Bibles that David C. Pack is a blaspheming liar not guided by the Holy Spirit. That is a big deal.

 

Those that cope by ignoring the Series do themselves a great disservice. Ignoring the problem does not make it go away. The sharpest tool in the exrcg.org toolkit is David C. Pack exposing David C. Pack as a biblical fraud, false prophet, hypocrite, and professional deceiver.

 

Fine. Set aside Av 10. It is now acceptable church doctrine to blow it off. It was clearly a research mistake. Have blind faith and just keep going.

 

But, before you make peace with that, un-forget what David C. Pack said seven days earlier.

 

Flashback Part 460 – July 22, 2023

@ 52:26 I'm gonna clarify something that is most powerful. God help the church around the world to understand what I’m gonna show you right now.

 

Would the true God help the church understand error?

 

@ 53:54 It's telling you (I'm gonna say this very carefully) in several ways. It's telling you Av 10 is the day God uses to start years.

 

Very carefully, the Bible was NOT telling anyone that. David C. Pack made it up. Otherwise, how could he abandon it so quickly? The truth is to be held onto. David C. Pack cast the Av 10 "knowledge" aside like garbage.

 

@ 56:39 If this year starts on Av 10. It’s impossible to say it doesn’t. It’s impossible…

 

David C. Pack: the man who makes the impossible possible. Seven days later, he teaches the church the year starts on The Feast of Tabernacles, not Av 10. One week later, it was not so impossible.

 

@ 1:17:31 Tell me why I figured out this date now.

 

Because the date the week before failed, he had to quickly find a new one.

 

@ 1:17:45 I had no idea how to read it. Now I do. And so do you.

 

One week later, he still does not know how to read it.

 

@ 1:18:53 And we were never gonna figure that out. We were never ever ever gonna figure that out until we were shown by God Av 10.

 

David C. Pack credits God with the Av 10 understanding. Three days later, he blows it off. While speaking in God’s name, using God’s authority, David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God falsely taught doctrine to the brethren. He took God’s name in vain.

 

Peter warned of false teachers. By his own words and by his own admission, David C. Pack is a false teacher. That is not an accusation. It is an observation. An observation that can only be grasped if you remember what the man said seven days prior.

 

Each time he credits God for leading the church into some new false doctrine, David C. Pack blasphemes God. This is why remembering is so vital.

 

@ 1:19:49 The only date you can use as the year is the one God is working off of. Av 10. I call it “The Iron Date” ‘cause it’s this day that, apparently, God raises all of us and raises Elijah.

 

The Iron Date rusted to dust within three days. Just think of all the other goofy ideas that will erode before next week.

 

@ 1:26:07 Now, it took a long time to learn a plain date where I could never come to another one. I could never come to another one. You could never. There's no way.

 

@ 1:26:35 I could never come back to another date.

 

@ 1:31:16 I’ll never move Av 10. If I had to wait five more years, I’m not gonna move Av 10. I just wouldn’t understand how the Mystery is cleared up. 

 

He doubted, dismissed, studied, found, prepared, and delivered a new date that “could never come” within seven days. Trusting in the words of David C. Pack is like trusting in the staff of a broken reed. Do so, and it will go into your hand and pierce it.

 

@ 1:26:15 What would I say next week? “Sorry, you know, set aside Av 10. Just blow it off. It was a mistake. Let’s just keep going.”

 

The dark spirits that toy with his mind ease the words from his lips that prove who and what he is. It should make you shudder when you see David C. Pack’s mockings become real while his doctrines fail. Pray that this blind, lost man repents.

 

@ 1:26:23 It’s a miracle that we found there was another year there and in other places. It’s a miracle that that happened.

 

That was as much a miracle as the stain that looks like the Virgin Mary he discovered in his underwear. “Hey honey, come take a look at this. Is it a coincidence I found this today?”

 

 

Remembering last week frames this week. We are still in the first 94 seconds of Part 461.

 

Part 461 – July 29, 2023

@ 00:04 Well, this is an important message. I knew as early as maybe about Tuesday (Monday, perhaps) that nothing was gonna happen on Av 10…almost the moment I heard that, I knew it.

 

@ 01:23 It’s the greatest reason, I’ll say, initially the greatest initial reason I knew nothing would happen.

 

David C. Pack knew as early as maybe Tuesday or Monday perhaps that NOTHING would happen. If what he proclaims is true, then Headquarters blatantly lied to the brethren of The Restored Church of God.

 

Read the Pathetic Update posted in Member Services on Wednesday, July 26. As you read, try to find the words that explain “nothing would happen on Av 10.”

 

Prophecy Update – Wednesday, July 26, 2023

All in the last message holds, but one principle from Part 459 should be factored in. Habakkuk 2:3 says what we are awaiting could tarry—recall the Hebrew is, “though (if, when) it tarry, wait for it”! As asked on the Sabbath, might God dock off more days? Other material learned indicates it will delay, but cannot go long. If so, keep watching!

 

Instead of letting the brethren know "nothing would happen" on Friday, they instructed them to keep watching. How is that not a lie? How are Church Administration and all the hirelings at Headquarters (I’m talking to you, Bradford G. Schleifer) not liars? How is that posting not fraud to the core?

 

They knew and said nothing. They let the brethren hold on to empty hope for the next few days while NONE of the Headquarters ministers held the same illusion of false hope. David C. Pack put his head on his pillow Thursday night, not wondering about it even a little bit. So much for outgoing love and concern.

 

Men who say they love the brethren lie to the brethren. Men who say they want to care for the sheep lie to the sheep.

 

The new “delay” of Part 461 is two months long, the Opening Night of The Feast of Tabernacles at the split-second of sunset on September 29, 2023. How is that even in the neighborhood of “cannot go long?”

 

Is David C. Pack a man of his word who can be trusted with what he says? Is there anyone with integrity left at Headquarters?

 

 

Another significant element of the first 94 seconds is just goofy. Really goofy. But even something goofy can expose how two-faced David C. Pack is. He is a well-practiced hypocrite when it comes to choosing when a fact is good or bad. It always depends on how he needs to spin it. On that, consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.

 

Once again, the Jews seem to ruin everything.

 

Part 461 – July 29, 2023

@ 00:11 I knew…that nothing was gonna happen on Av 10…WE did more research, and the Jews actually believe…And many of them believe…almost the moment I heard that, I knew it.

 

The full text was at the beginning of the article. The point is: Dave changed his mind about Av 10 based upon what he discovered the Jewish people believed. You could ask why he did not research that sooner.

 

The Restored Church of God

There’s never enough time to do things right.™

 

@ 01:11 Now, that may be a strange thing for you to hear, but I didn’t know that they believe it. I wish I had before I spoke. But it caused many other things to come clear. It’s the greatest reason, I’ll say, initially the greatest initial reason I knew nothing would happen.

 

It could not possibly be the date because the Jews believe in the significance of Av 10. This is only the beginning of goofy because the Jews keep the Sabbath and the Holy Days, but Dave has no issue with that.

 

David C. Pack invalidated 91 minutes of prophetic teaching sourced from God’s word with the support of his two “capable” assistants because…well, the Jews believe something. He faithlessly used extrabiblical information to supersede revealed knowledge “shown by God” about when the Kingdom would arrive. This was inspired preaching through a chosen vessel, the only living apostle. But all of it was thwarted by the beliefs of the Jews.

 

David C. Pack's paltry excuse gets even thinner.

 

If anyone listening to Part 461 remembers one of the big points from Part 460, they should have felt slightly insulted. David C. Pack counts on the brethren NOT remembering what he just said. He gets on his knees each morning, praying the members suffer from the exact short-term memory loss that he does.

 

The power of his prayers must not be crossing my threshold because I remember Part 460 all too well.

 

This next portion is a worthy entry for David C. Pack’s Gallery of Stupid. I let it go last week, but Dave breathed life into its newsworthiness.

 

While making a crucial point about the significance of the fast he kept reading about and how it tied into the midst of the years, he cited WHAT THE JEWS BELIEVE as a proof to show how Av 10 was so significant to God.

 

Flashback Part 460 – July 22, 2023

@ 50:28 …all the gold and silver. Took it to Babylon. Everything that had been Jerusalem and its people, its laws, and its priesthood came to a screeching, complete, burnt-to-a-crisp, all of it, walls gone and on Av 10. Hence, Jews fast for about 23 days between these certain periods. That’s what they fast for. They’re mourning. And they did it for 70 years.

 

Dave teaches fasting was on God's mind. Israel fasted on Av 9 and was taken into captivity on Av 10. The historic significance proved future significance.

 

What the Jews believed proved his point. But one week later, something else the Jews believed about the very same day invalidated his point. He picks and chooses when something applies and when it does not. Those poor Jews just cannot get a break with him.

 

But that is not the stupid part. He said, “Jews fast for about 23 days.”

 

Fasting for 23 days is not called mourning. It is called suicide. Even Muslims know during the month of Ramadan to eat and drink after the sun goes down. A speedy internet search proves David C. Pack needs those new glasses to read his notes more carefully.

 

On Tammuz 17, the Jews fast from sunrise to sunset for one day. It is called Shiva Asar B'Tammuz. 22 days later, they fast again, starting on Av 9 at sunset until sunset on Av 10. This is called Tisha B’Av. Two fasts occur between 23 days. Jews do not fast for 23 days, which is a little different.

 

 

Wow. That was the first 94 seconds of “The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 461)” on July 29, 2023. When it comes to goofy ideas, David C. Pack is king. He is the master of goofy ideas. He is the most prolific generator of goofy ideas the world has ever seen.

 

If you think David C. Pack will wait quietly until the Feast of Tabernacles, deep down, you know that is a really goofy idea. 


Marc Cebrian

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15 comments:

Anonymous said...

What we do know for sure: death, taxes, and DCP's date guesses always being wrong.

Anonymous said...

I believe that it's time to notify the Guinness Book of World Records! I honestly do not know of any Christian minister who has ever set so many dates for the Kingdom of God to arrive, or for the return of Jesus Christ, have those dates fail sequentially, and yet continue to set dates. Someone should also contact the compilers who are working on the DSM-VI, because surely this must be a new mental disorder, or an extreme variation of an existing one!

This should be totally shocking. The only reason it is not is that we here have heard it so many times that we've become immune. The fact that Dave's own followers forget the details from week to week is an indicator that it's no longer a fear factor for them. He's worn it out. It's no longer a few sprinkles of pepper on the salad. The salad has become pepper with a few meager pieces of lettuce being the seasoning.

Anonymous said...

It is not the kingdom God, it is the kingdom of Amen-Ra. This is why we Christians say Amen at the end of a prayer. We pray through the God Amen-Ra, the sun God. They are one and the same. Dave is a deluded Armstrongist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhKGPslPwwA

Anonymous said...

WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE BLIND LEAD THE BLIND?

Anonymous said...

I wish he would be right. But Pentecost is a more likely time for Christ to return. Not taught by HWA: three feasts (chags)-Ex 23:14-16; are steps in God's plan: resurrection (harvest) of JC at DUB, then resurrection/harvest of firstfruits at the feast of harvest/Pentecost, then the resurrection of everybody else in the future at the FOT/Ingathering. The remaining "holydays" are annual sabbaths, listed in Lev 23 as fixed times (moeds). All of God's times are moeds but only three are chags/feasts. "Feasts" in Lev 23:2 should be translated "fixed times" or "appointed times".

The FOT is at the end of the year-Ex 23:16. End of 6000 years in some year?

Tonto said...

PACK SAID : (the Jews)...They’re the last people who could know a date that no man knows.

MY COMMENT:
No Davey, YOU ARE THE LAST PERSON who could know the date that no man knows, and you have the track record to prove it!

Anonymous said...

Split second? Yeah, the twinkling of an eye - 1 Cor 15:52. A blink of an eye is about 100-150 milliseconds long.

Anonymous said...

Religion evolves. The beliefs/stories which are beneficial to the collective remain while the less useful diminish. There is nothing new under the sun god. The hero with a thousand faces.

Appreciate the video!

Anonymous said...

In a July 23, 2023 letter to Exit and Support Network from a former RCG member:

The worst decision of my life was joining them [RCG].
One of the best decisions was leaving them [RCG].

Anonymous said...

It's hard not to consider whether his end-of-the-world craze is demonic. He's definitely an enemy of the Christian Church.

Anonymous said...

We are all witnessing what is going on here. David Pack is a false prophet. Period. There is no, well maybe... or well maybe next time..., well we are all learning...We can see it so plainly how he is deceiving so many people. Each member of the Restored Church of God need to wake up. A false prophet is right in front of them and they can't even see it for what he is. If you observe him it is obvious that he is angry, inpatient, and sarcastic, traits of characters that were not in Christ. Is that a man after God's heart? He looks so angry that the prophecies that he is making are not happening. But after who is he angry at? God? He looks like a childish spoiled grown man. It is never his fault, but it is everybody else's fault. Let's hope that they will wake up, return to God's Word of truth. Thank you Marc for all your work that you are doing. You are doing a great effort to expose this fraud. I can't even believe that he is at part 461. It is time to redeem the time, but... they are so far now from the truth... The damage is so heavy, is it possible to return now? Do they have any oil left?

From the French Lady

Anonymous said...

If I could wish anything for all the RCG members, it would be that they took it upon themselves to spend their common on some great music by the Grateful Dead, and just mellow out. So much good material that actually does nourish the soul of the listener, as opposed to the aggravation and grief caused by listening to myriad David C. Pack sermons which only get reversed a short time after people have invested chunks of their lives they can't get back in the nothingness which keeps Dave's ego inflated!

RCG does not remind me of Jonestown, Waco, or Heavens Gate. If we're looking for a more similar group, I think that Chuck Dederich's Synanon Center is a more correct comparison. Chuck filled his members' heads with all manner of ridiculous ideas, and enforced them on the entire group. Believe it or not there are recovery blogs and websites for people who had once been involved with Synanon. Not a pretty picture! Do a search, and take a read!

Anonymous said...

I don't like saying this, but at this point of time it looks very much like Dave's members are worshipping Dave and/or his church rather than God.

I had a similar experience when I attended services. A friend of mine morally and spiritually collapsed. I bent over backwards trying to help him, but to no avail. I had to resign myself to the fact that the ball is ultimately in his court.
You can't live people's lives for them.

Anonymous said...

Do you have any links to that article?

Anonymous said...

All buzzkill, folks! Dave has gotten all his people salivating over the Kingdom every time he does a sermon. And then he explains why it didn't happen, and doubles down on a new date! Nuthin' to see here. Dave's words no longer mean a damned thing! Consarn it! Where is that rusty old broken clock? At least we know it's reliable, cause it's gonna be right every time the time catches up to it!