Friday, May 26, 2017

Gerald Flurry, Apostle/Prophet/Martyr, and His Personal Family Jet...UPDATE



It looks like Gerald Flurry and Lil'Stevie got a burr up their butt's recently when it was discovered that people could track their personal flights with their new jet.

They have now changed the FAA Registry number of the jet to a new ID number:



They have also disabled anyone tracking their movements around the country as they fly grandkids to their Irish dance competitions.


Apostles and prophets in the Church of God must NEVER be accountable to their members, now should they?  We must never assume that self-appointed church leaders would use these jets for their own personal jaunts around the country, now should we?

After all, prophets, apostles, and martyrs all need to fly in a clean breathable atmosphere so that those dirty nasty germs of the unwashed heathen masses might never enter their nostrils.

Oh, the joy of using hard-earned tithe money to buy what you want for your own personal extravagance.

See:

As Income Plummets 25% Gerald Flurry Set to Buy Jet Plane So Stevie and His Kids Can Fly In Luxury


Gerald Flurry Follows in HWA's Steps and Buys Gulfstream G450 Jet



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26 comments:

nck said...

That's why I hesitate to put inside information on the public web.
These guys might just act on that information and continue planning their evil pursuits in secrecy. Now this source is disabled.

Sometimes I read information that is as dangerous to put in the open as the stupidty of POTUS saying next to a smiling Netanyahu that he NEVER mentioned the word Israali sources. While any professional in the ISIL network by know has probably disabled the source of leaked information.

And that is what these guys are. As dangerous as ISIL. Except Isil steals your head and some of the splinters just your brain and money.

nck

Lake of Fire Church of God said...

If PCG wanted to show the world how the Church jet is helping to preach the Gospel into all the world (even though their idol Herbert Armstrong said that it had already been accomplished), then you would think they wouldn't mind the travel tracking. Since they don't believe in transparency and accountability, one can assume PCG has something to hide with their jet travel.

Does the name Ron Weinland mean anything to PCG members? The Great tribulation of 3 1/2 years in prison came to this tax cheat felon for using Church tax exempt funds as a personal piggy bank. The PCG better be documenting in detail the Church purpose for each and every jet trip if it doesn't want to find its leading ministers involved in a tax evasion case like the Profit (Ooops, I mean prophet) Ron Weinland.

When will the dumb tithe slave sheep learn?

Richard

DennisCDiehl said...

Whoa....that's amazing. Even the New Testament says we are not to hide our flights under a bushel! Matthew 5:15

New International Version
"Neither do people log a flight and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its flight plan, and it gives light to everyone in the house of God.

The Free Dictionary

hide one's flight under a bushel

"Fig. to conceal one's ideas or talents. (A biblical theme.) Gerald has some personal ideas, but he doesn't speak very often. He hides his flight under a bushel. Don't hide your flight under a bushel. Share your journeys with other members."

(Definition slightly altered by me:)

DennisCDiehl said...

Even more!

Matthew 5:16
"Let your flight shine before men in such a way that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven.

Matthew 5:13-16 "You are the flight of the world. A Gulfstream set on a hill cannot be hidden; nor does anyone light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on the public flight plan, and it gives light to all who are in the house.

Then Jesus again spoke to them, saying, "You are the flight of the world; he who tracks Me will not fly in the darkness, but will have the flight of life."


Romans 13:11-14
Do this, knowing the time, that it is already the hour for you to awaken from sleep; for now salvation is nearer to us than when we believed. The flight is almost gone, and the day is near Therefore let us lay aside your nosey deeds of darkness and ignore the destination of my flight. Let us behave properly as in the day, not in carousing and drunkenness, not in sexual promiscuity and sensuality, and fast feety dance and Songs of Solomons and not in strife and jealousy.

Psalm 119:105

Your flightplan is a lamp to my feet And an insight into your flight path.

Ephesians 5:7-14
Therefore do not be partakers with them; for you were formerly darkness, but now you are flying in the Lord; walk as children of flight (for the fruit of the flight consists in all goodness and righteousness and truth),

2 Corinthians 4:3-6
And even if our gospel and flightpath is veiled, it is veiled to those who are nosey, in whose case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the believing so that they might not see the flight of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. For we do not preach ourselves but Christ Jesus as Lord, and ourselves as your bond-servants for Jesus...well ok and mostly the Old Testament"


John 9:5

"While I am in the world, I cloak my flights in the world

John 12:35
So Jesus said to them, "For a little while longer the flight is hidden among you Walk and mind your own business while I have the flight, so that destination will not be clear to you and overtake you; he who seeks my fight path should not know where I goes.....even if you paid for it.

Anonymous said...

Ha ha ha. Very funny Dennis.
I'm sure many PCG tithe payers are waiting to see the plane used Herbie style to meet world leaders and dignitaries. Out of kindness, I will say no more.

Anonymous said...

Since tithes belong to God, once they are paid, God (or His representative" [Gerald]) "is not obligated to explain exactly how, or in what fashion, those tithes were spent. One should never pay tithes to God’s representatives and then feel a need to supervise or otherwise have the duty to watch over the way the ministry or headquarters (Gerald) spends those tithes. The minister—ministry—headquarters answers to God because it is God Gerald) who employs them, not the people who paid the tithes. God (Gerald) owns His “company,” and He (Gerald) has the authority to hire (or fire) His ministers. The people who pay tithes have no voice in how they are spent."

Anonymous said...

If Gerry last another ten years, and I hope he doesn't. The math on this purchase makes zero sense. We all know it's not really for preaching the "gospel". If it was it still wouldn't make any sense. The poor sheeple.

Byker Bob said...

The moment the original post came out, I knew the Flurrys would find a way to disable the tracking. These are people who state that they should only be accountable to God. That ends up being their euphemism for being totally unaccountable.

Anyone who feels that church leadership should be accountable is in the wrong church if they are in an ACOG. Armstrongism and accountability are non sequitur.

BB

Byker Bob said...

By the way! I can't understand anyone's affinity for Irish dancing. Russian folk dancing is much more exciting, and requires a higher skill level.

BB

Steve D said...

Flurry can travel anywhere for personal business, as long as when he gets there he says, "Ask me something about God so I can write off this trip. "HWA knew enough to have a good lawyer at his side to keep him out of trouble.

nck said...

BB

Michael Flatley is among the richest persons in the UK.

First I thought it was a nice puruit for the kids with Irish ancestry. Until I realized they were dead serious as to it being an original Israeli (davidian) dance.

Claims like that start open season for the likes of me.

Now I m curious as to the flypath of said jet. We ll find out.

Nck

Connie Schmidt said...

SING ALONG TIME!...

Sing to the tune "Where Have All The Flowers Gone" (Peter , Paul and Mary 1962)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgXNVA9ngx8

Where have all the tithe funds gone, long time passing?...

Where have all the tithe funds gone, long time ago?...

Where have all the tithe funds gone?

Gone to Cult Leaders , every one!

When will they ever learn, when will they ever learn?

Anonymous said...

7.06 AM
So true. But you failed to mention that since God (the ministry) owns all our income, we should be grateful that God (the ministry) only takes one tenth, and lets us keep the rest. Therefore all members should kiss their ministers ring and lick their boots, in appreciation of their generosity in letting members keep most of their income.

Anonymous said...

In reply to Anon @ 10:43am, it is not actually 10% tithe. There is also the 10% 2nd tithe for the feast, the 3rd tithe every 3 years and the tithe of the tithe which everyone must give before the feast every fall. So it is like 30% each year and every third year 40%.

Byker Bob said...

Davidian? Nice! So the Israelites had some way of attaching metal taps to their sandals?

I blame Alexander Hislop for this. I guess if you convince people that modern church services came from the Babylonian mystery religions pretty much on a whim, I guess it's not that big a deal to convince them that stuff their ACOG leader likes came from King David. Same type of stupid twisted reasoning.

BB

True Bread said...

It's a simple matter to track an aircraft even without Flightaware. I am a professional pilot who flew corporate/charter for years and then with the airlines. We all use published frequencies with our CALL SIGN (N number) to communicate with ATC...anyone can scan ALL freqs of ATC on LiveATC online and follow just about any aircraft as it travels. You just have to have someone close by the home airport to monitor a frequency for clearance/tower etc to know when they are departing and you can usually get the entire flight plan and destination over that freq.... happy hunting..!!!

True Bread said...

For example, you can go here: https://www.liveatc.net/listen.php,
and find the date 042817 and the time 1330-1400 Z at KOKC approach and you can hear their jet change altitude at the 2155-2201 time stamp....enjoy..!! won't be up much longer as they are only stored for a month at a time.

RSK said...

HOLD EVERYTHING!!

Pagan priests wore shoes when they performed dances before idols!!! You can see it on Hittite reliefs!!!

EEEEEEEEEEVIL!

Anonymous said...

"In reply to Anon @ 10:43am, it is not actually 10% tithe. There is also the 10% 2nd tithe for the feast, the 3rd tithe every 3 years and the tithe of the tithe which everyone must give before the feast every fall. So it is like 30% each year and every third year 40%."




well, if you do it the way God says, the 10% goes to the Church.....

2nd tithe is yours to keep and spend on you and your family at the Feast, there is no obligation to donate anything leftover to the Church (although it's perfectly acceptable to do so)

3rd tithe is paid in the 3rd & 6th year of the 7yr cycle, which is a bit of a problem since no one knows where in the cycle we are at this time....we still help those in need, but there is no way to keep "3rd tithe" at the present.

an that famous "tithe of the tithe" is the Levites tithing on their income...does not apply to you and me.

if people would only listen to God.

Jim Osia said...

I remember David Hulme in Pensacola, FLA in '93 that any left over 2T was to be sent to headquarters!!!! He also went overtime on the last Great Day and told people to sit down and wait to leave when he was done!!!

Anonymous said...

To 6:49 am, a few years back when I was with PCG, F. Dattolo gave a sermon and said everyone who works had to give their Tithe of the tithe before the fall feasts in order to help with the costs of FOT and would send a reminder with the fall holy day envelopes. So the PCG does not regard it as only being paid by "Levites" as it is believed that the pcg are kings and priests. And yes 2nd tithe is to be used for yourself during the feasts however they give many sermons encouraging you to give any leftover to the church which a lot of people do.

Anonymous said...

"I remember David Hulme in Pensacola, FLA in '93 that any left over 2T was to be sent to headquarters!!!!"


if they are asking that it be sent in, that's one thing....if they present it as a biblical mandate, they better show some biblical proof.


"...back when I was with PCG, F. Dattolo gave a sermon and said everyone who works had to give their Tithe of the tithe before the fall feasts in order to help with the costs of FOT and would send a reminder with the fall holy day envelopes."

if it's presented as a request, then I have no problem with it, and would gladly chip in to help with Feast expenses, but if it's presented as a biblical mandate, once again, show me some proof....same goes for donating any left over second tithe.

Anonymous said...

Then how can we receive the "plane truth?" (Sorry, couldn't resist.)

Monnie said...

Best post in a long time! As a former WCG tithe slave sheeple, it's not easy to laugh about the scammers, but I laughed out loud today. Thx!

Anonymous said...

Earlier this evening on facebook the PCG had someone filming the Jet G-450 as it flew several times over Edmond headquarters.

Anonymous said...

You can also request flight data from the FAA through a Freedom of Information Act request (ATC is publicly funded and the skies are public) https://www.faa.gov/foia/email_foia/?region=central