Saturday, March 24, 2012

Dave Pack In Land Battle at New Cult Headquarters



It looks like the bully Dave is getting a dose of his own medicine.  A neighboring property owner is in a land fight with magnanimous Dave over Dave supposedly buying land that he had no right to.  So in typical COG Christian love, Dave has sued the property owner.

A reader of the Akron Beacon Journal Ohio.com  has this to say about Dave Pack's land grab:


I happen to know the people that live in front of the property that this church is building on.
They are suing them over property they have maintained for 23 years now.
This so called Christian church is bearing false witnesses against my friends.
They offered to buy their house but don't want to pay them what it's worth. Instead they are harrassing them and trying to drive them out.
What kind of church treats their neighbor that way?
David Pack claim to be God's apostle. Why doesn't he do the right thing by my friends. Instead they want to control you.
People beware of this so called church. Do your homework and research the true believings behind this so called church. Their members will never see this because they are forbidden to be on the internet unless it is strickly for business. if they are caught they will be disfellowshipped.

Then in typical COG fashion an acolyte jumps on and accuses the home owners of being greedy for wanting more than what magnanimous Dave was offering.  This acolyte even goes on to say that these homeowners fired a gun over their heads.  As if a person is going to be firing a gun in City limits!  Where is the police report that Dave filed??????????

Unfortunately, in an Internet world, people like you feel entitled to hide behind a cybername like "energybooster" and spew all manner of lies and falsehoods in cyberspace with no regard for laws against defamation or any other consequences. I am affiliated with the Restored Church of God ("RCG"), and I saw your post on the Internet, as did many other RCG members. Your statement that we are forbidden to "be on the Internet" and will be disfellowshipped for doing so is just one of the lies contained in your post. Contrary to your lie, the Internet is one of the primary means that RCG uses to spread the gospel, boasting multiple websites on which it publishes various kinds of literature, including its flagship magazine, The Real Truth, which is read by members and prospective members across the globe.

As for the matter with “your friends” who lives in front of the property, RCG offered them significantly more than the house was appraised for, and that offer was met with a sneer and a refusal to counteroffer. Ever wonder why they have had so much trouble selling their house? While RCG personnel were on the land RCG owns, away from the area that “your friends” are now attempting to take by adverse possession, “your friend” fired live rounds overhead and has done so on more than one occasion. Without any discussion, “your friends” hired a law firm and had an attorney send out a letter claiming that they own land that RCG bought and paid for in October of 2011. “Your friends” have and continue to block RCG from accessing its land by placing a pickup truck and trailer on the land that RCG owns! RCG did not resort to having the vehicle and trailer towed, but given the' refusal of “your friends” to discuss the matter, wild-west style gunfiring, vehicle blockade, communication through retained legal counsel, and claim of ownership of the land, RCG did initiate suit to have a court resolve this matter. Energybooster, do your own homework, and that should include a perusal of the laws against defamation.
As usual we see another COG leader who can do no wrong. It's the other persons at fault.  God's most magnanimous Apostle to ever walk the earth is now filing a lawsuit against property owners that have lived there longer than Pack's cult has been around.  Greed seems to be the name of the game in Armstrongism.

ht: Jace

Church of God Dallas/Fort Worth and it's Female Pastor






Here's a Church of God unlike all the others.  It is sabbath keeping, commandant keeping, holy day keeping, and like all other COG's except for one area, it has a female pastor.  You can read about the reasons they find for women being able to lead in the church. Women’s Role


A clear translation is,
Let those women keep silent among the called out ones
The New American Standard: Let the (THOSE) women keep silent in (AMONG) the churches; for they are not permitted to speak, but let them subject themselves, just as the Law also says.
Let those women--who are not yet a part of the converted membership-- keep silent among the called out ones-- the ekklesia -- and subject themselves to their poor embarrassed, converted husbands. Rather than participating in services as the converted women do, they are to ask their husbands to instruct them at home. The KJV adds several words to this verse that are not in the Greek manuscripts, adding "your" to women, and the phrase "they are commanded". These added words make it sound like a universal ruling against ALL the women when it is not.
THOSE and AMONG written in all capitols are alternate translations of the Greek words. To find hoi/hai  (male/female forms of the same word, Strong's 3588) translated as THOSE see Matt 8:33, 9:12, 10:36, and 12:3 in the New King James. The Greek en is frequently translated as AMONG, see Matt 2:6, Matt 4:23, Matt 16:8 and Matt 20:26. The word translated as "churches", ekklesia, means the true believers within the churches, both men and women.
All members participated in services as we see in 1Cor. 14:26 and 31, and this was to continue, but women attending with converted husbands--wives who were not presently among the "ekklesia"-- were not to participate as the converted women did.

This must really gall Bob Thiel that a woman knows more than he does!

The best part of the web site is a link where they describe a run in they had with Art Mokarow and his Associates For Restored Truth.  They describe a symposium that Art ran where he brought in different speakers to talk on different subjects and then at the end basically told them all they were wrong and they he knew the right and correct way.  I see things have not changed in regards to Art's know it all attitude.

The pastors last letter was in 2010, so I don't know if they are still operating or not.