Saturday, March 24, 2012

Church of God Dallas/Fort Worth and it's Female Pastor






Here's a Church of God unlike all the others.  It is sabbath keeping, commandant keeping, holy day keeping, and like all other COG's except for one area, it has a female pastor.  You can read about the reasons they find for women being able to lead in the church. Women’s Role


A clear translation is,
Let those women keep silent among the called out ones
The New American Standard: Let the (THOSE) women keep silent in (AMONG) the churches; for they are not permitted to speak, but let them subject themselves, just as the Law also says.
Let those women--who are not yet a part of the converted membership-- keep silent among the called out ones-- the ekklesia -- and subject themselves to their poor embarrassed, converted husbands. Rather than participating in services as the converted women do, they are to ask their husbands to instruct them at home. The KJV adds several words to this verse that are not in the Greek manuscripts, adding "your" to women, and the phrase "they are commanded". These added words make it sound like a universal ruling against ALL the women when it is not.
THOSE and AMONG written in all capitols are alternate translations of the Greek words. To find hoi/hai  (male/female forms of the same word, Strong's 3588) translated as THOSE see Matt 8:33, 9:12, 10:36, and 12:3 in the New King James. The Greek en is frequently translated as AMONG, see Matt 2:6, Matt 4:23, Matt 16:8 and Matt 20:26. The word translated as "churches", ekklesia, means the true believers within the churches, both men and women.
All members participated in services as we see in 1Cor. 14:26 and 31, and this was to continue, but women attending with converted husbands--wives who were not presently among the "ekklesia"-- were not to participate as the converted women did.

This must really gall Bob Thiel that a woman knows more than he does!

The best part of the web site is a link where they describe a run in they had with Art Mokarow and his Associates For Restored Truth.  They describe a symposium that Art ran where he brought in different speakers to talk on different subjects and then at the end basically told them all they were wrong and they he knew the right and correct way.  I see things have not changed in regards to Art's know it all attitude.

The pastors last letter was in 2010, so I don't know if they are still operating or not.

6 comments:

Anonymous said...

"They describe a symposium that Art (Mokarrow) ran where he brought in different speakers to talk on different subjects and then at the end basically told them all they were wrong and they he knew the right and correct way. I see things have not changed in regards to Art's know it all attitude."

Um...yes. In the last 24 hours I spent sometime on the phone with AM just saying "uh huh....uh huh.....ummmmm...sure fine." God's puzzle has been solved on ALL topics on earth including parallel universes and the 11 dimensions. While very sincere I am sure, intelligent people understand more than COG types give them credit for.

Personally...I'll take a reinstatement of Goddess Worship and the demise of Patriarchy.

M.T.Puzzles

Anonymous said...

"They describe a symposium that Art (Mokarrow) ran where he brought in different speakers to talk on different subjects and then at the end basically told them all they were wrong and they he knew the right and correct way. I see things have not changed in regards to Art's know it all attitude."

Um...yes. In the last 24 hours I spent sometime on the phone with AM just saying "uh huh....uh huh.....ummmmm...sure fine." God's puzzle has been solved on ALL topics on earth including parallel universes and the 11 dimensions. While very sincere I am sure, intelligent people understand more than COG types give them credit for.

Personally...I'll take a reinstatement of Goddess Worship and the demise of Patriarchy.

M.T.Puzzles (sorry if this posts twice...seems to want to.)

Black Ops Mikey said...

Has anyone researched the word "symposium" from the original Greek?

It means drinking party.

Which is exactly what the Feast of Tabernacles is for the Armstrongist Churches of God.

Perhaps the ACoG should rename the Feasts Symposiums.

Anonymous said...

Thirty-five years ago I heard AM give about a dozen sermons in Pasadena. He's a mesmerizing speaker so when he outlines some huge problem and then exclaims, "But it's all so simple!" you're ready to agree that it's really quite simple.

But I found that as I came out of Mokarrow's spell on the drive home I always starting thinking of complicating factors that he had conveniently ignored to prove his thesis.

At that point I always exclaimed, "But it's all so simplistic!"

Anonymous said...

With AM one just listens . Any additional information not thought of by AM and he has a ready made answer for it all. There is no discussion IMHO, just listening. He did tell me yesterday that I inspired him to write 15 more books in the past two years to answer me.

I asked if there was any money in it for all that inspiration...um...no.

M.T.Wallets

Assistant Deacon said...

The Mokarows were pals with Bobby Fischer years ago and let him hide out in their home. HAHAHAHAHA. Can you say "irrelevant?"