Saturday, May 11, 2013

Bob Thiel Says: OMG Again!!!!! 1/3 of Bees Have Died - A SURE Sign Famine is Coming!!!!!!!!!



While I know that the bee Colony Collapse Disorder is a huge problem with bee's, it gets tiresome reading the pimps of doom in Armstrongism that turn these events into prophetic scenarios to fit their warped, twisted, escatological scatological views.  These pimps of god's wrath get off on the violent scenarios they want to see happen.  Nothing would delight them more to see people starve to death, die in wars and concentration camps, or die of some horrible disease.  These pimps need to see this happen so that their twisted theology can be validated.

Bob writes:

Why be so concerned about bees? Because bees are necessary for the pollenization of many plants that humans eat. Wikipedia states:
It is estimated that one third of the human food supply depends on insect pollination, most of which is accomplished by bees, especially the domesticated European honey bee.
One third of human food possibly being dependent upon bees is a significant percentage. Losing half the bees could be devastating.
If pesticides and/or high fructose corn syrup are starting to kill honey bees, presuming this trend continues to increase, the food supply could greatly decrease. (Many are also concerned that the use of high fructose corn syrup, which is normally now from genetically-engineered corn, increases that risk for human health problems like diabetes, which keeps increasing in the world.) Overall, humans need bees much more that bees physically need humans.
Jesus warned that one of the “signs” of the end of the age would be famine:
7…And there will be famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are the beginning of sorrows. (Matthew 24:6-8)
We seem to be in the time Jesus called “the beginning of sorrows.”
Between the widespread and growing use of genetically modified (GMO) “foods,” pesticides, herbicides, and synthesized sweeteners, countries like the USA are putting themselves at risk for the famines which are certain to come. Losing bees perhaps should be a sign that things are beginning to worsen.
At some time, famine will come to the USA and many will die from it:
15 ‘So it shall be a reproach, a taunt, a lesson, and an astonishment to the nations that are all around you, when I execute judgments among you in anger and in fury and in furious rebukes. I, the Lord, have spoken. 16 When I send against them the terrible arrows of famine which shall be for destruction, which I will send to destroy you, I will increase the famine upon you and cut off your supply of bread. 17 So I will send against you famine and wild beasts, and they will bereave you. Pestilence and blood shall pass through you, and I will bring the sword against you. I, the Lord, have spoken.’  (Ezekiel 5:15-17)

Dave Pack Whines The COG Has Wasted One and a Quarter Billion Dollars on False "Work's" Instead of Giving It To Him



Poor Dave.  He still cannot get it through his thick head that NO ONE in the hundreds of splinter groups of Armstrongism give a rat's ass about him.  He is particularly incensed that over 1 1/4 billion dollars have passed through the doors of various COG's instead of his:


This should automatically bring to mind the large organizations that formed after the apostasy, having come out of God’s House thinking they could form many houses and still all be part of the Body of Christ—part of God’s House (Church). How interesting that in regard to wealth these organizations have collectively taken in a great many hundreds of millions of dollars (perhaps up to one and a quarter BILLION dollars when totals are combined).


The next verses are powerfully instructive. God outlines what the people (including ministers) expected to accomplish through their works, followed with descriptions of how it always came to little or nothing.

Verses 5-7: “Now therefore thus says the Lord of hosts; Consider your ways. You have sown much, and bring in little; you eat, but you have not enough; you drink, but you are not filled with drink; you clothe you, but there is none warm; and he that earns wages earns wages to put it into a bag with holes. Thus says the Lord of hosts; Consider your ways.”

Read this passage a second time, more slowly. God TWICE tells the people to “Consider your ways.” Yet most brethren today are not even reading Haggai, and those few who are do not do so with much or any understanding. These articles are part of God telling YOU to consider your ways! God is reaching out to His people, explaining that, cut off from Him, their efforts have brought no real “yield.” Think of the splinters. After up to two decades, most of them are roughly the same size—or smaller. Their “works” are also roughly the same size—or smaller. Some much smaller! Phrase by phrase, God is telling His people in these other “houses” that what they are doing is not working
Their “earnings” go into “a bag with holes.” Keep asking as you read, and this could have begun at verse 2, who are these people that are associated with God’s House—who so perfectly fit the description of today’s many thousands in the big and small splinter houses that came out of the Worldwide Church of God?

Dave's god is so pissed right now with the various COG leaders that he is has caused a "great drought" to dry them all up.  All except his of course, The Restored Church of God is the most superfantabulous Church of God ever created. Dave's cult is unparallelled in the world for it's awesomeness.  All the other COG's tremble in fear at the mere mention of Dave's name!

Verse 11: “And I called for a drought upon the land, and upon the mountains, and upon the corn, and upon the new wine, and upon the oil, and upon that which the ground brings forth, and upon men, and upon cattle, and upon all the labor of the hands.”

This verse details what are seen to be categories of God’s punishment that are being intensified. First, the Hebrew for “drought” is more correctly translated “desolation.” Similar but different Hebrew words are typically used when drought or dearth is the intended meaning. Unable to understand prophecy, and in light of not understanding the symbolism of “dew” and “fruit” in Haggai 1:10, the King James translators thought maybe God’s carefully chosen word (choreb) had to do with some ancient drought in Israel. But the subject is desolation—or wasting—of the houses attended by “this people.” This verse reveals that God is bringing DESOLATION to them in seven separate areas. Each term has critical meaning. This is a loving God’s attempt to further WAKE THE PEOPLE AND MINISTERS UP, and what is happening in this process is thoroughly explained in my NINTH announcement, which described them as seven trends or conditions occurring in the splinters today.

According to Dave when the hundreds of splinter groups all implode the tens of thousands of COG members will be streaming back to him in fear and obedience.

The last verses of Haggai 1 should be read and understood as a single very powerful summary statement. Clearly something dramatic happens that causes ACTION. Suddenly God’s people all come back together in a spirit of FEAR and OBEDIENCE—ready to go to work in the Temple. The why is not important at this time, rather just that it happens.

Verses 12-15: “Then Zerubbabel the son of Shealtiel, and Joshua the son of Josedech, the high priest, with ALL the remnant of the people, obeyed the voice of the Lord their God, and the words of Haggai the prophet, as the Lord their God had sent him [they finally grasped the intent of Haggai’s message], and the people did fear before the Lord. Then spoke Haggai the Lord’s messenger in the Lord’s message unto the people, saying, I am with you, says the Lord. And the Lord stirred up the spirit of Zerubbabel the son of Shealtiel, governor of Judah, and the spirit of Joshua the son of Josedech, the high priest, and the spirit of all the remnant of the people; and THEY CAME and DID WORK in the House of the Lord of hosts [God’s one Church], their God, in the four and twentieth day of the sixth month, in the second year of Darius the king.”

The group described as “this people,” but residing in separate houses, is seen to suddenly understand the reason behind their failed efforts. Key Hebrew words bring important meaning. “OBEYED” also means “to hear intelligently (often with implication of attention): consider, diligently, discern, give ear, listen, (be) obedient, obey, perceive, regard, understand.” The word “FEAR” means “to fear; to revere; to frighten: dread (-ful).” Recognize it is God’s Spirit that ultimately stirs His people to act, alongside a final culminating event found elsewhere in Scripture. The Hebrew for “STIRRED” means “(through the idea of opening the eyes); to wake: lift up, raise up, stir up.” “All” of God’s people are foretold (twice) to return from their houses to work again in God’s House. A full reunification is coming! And notice the Scripture describes it occurring in a single day. God reassures His people that “I am with you” (in this case, back with them)—and to “fear not” in the human sense of fear—after He previously had held back blessings from their groups.

This great event is supposed to happening ONE day, according to Dave.

The greatest question reappears: Who is this group that comes back to God’s House in a single day?

Friday, May 10, 2013

Dave Pack Threatens All COG Splinter Group Ministers: "...you will be OUT of the ministry by your own choosing. God’s duly appointed government will REMOVE you from office."


Dave is getting ready to remove all sinning, liberal heretics masquerading as ministers when they jump ship to him.  God's government has nothing to do with it. Dave is a jealous  guy who cannot stand to have anyone looking better than him.  If you are a minister in a splinter group your ass is grass! Either they toe the line or they are never heard of again.  God will spew them out.



ATTENTION MINISTERS

A statement to all MINISTERS: God WILL reunite His people, and soon. Ministers for decades have been “scattering” them—and working “against” Christ (Matt. 12:30). Read what follows Matthew 12:30. Now comes a powerful word of caution to those men who at all fear God and want to remain in His ministry. Men who are known to have tried to thwart the active work of God’s Spirit to reunite His people need to know they have chosen to END THEIR MINISTRY! The government of God’s Church will make diligent inquiry with brethren now under your charge.


Most of you grew liberal in the 1970s—this was “strike one” in God’s sight. But you were forgiven by a loving and merciful God and given another chance. However, many of the same men grew far more liberal and heretical in the second “go-around” through the 90s, and all the way to the present—this was a very great “strike two” in God’s sight. But His plan is to forgive you AGAIN, upon repentance. If you fight His Purpose NOW—read “God’s People Back Together—SOON!”, and other recent announcements—the result will be “strike THREE,” and you will be OUT of the ministry by your own choosing. God’s duly appointed government will REMOVE you from office. You are STRONGLY counseled to at least remain NEUTRAL in the face of your headquarters asking or even demanding you to resist what “RCG is teaching”—when God’s Spirit in you should be making clear that what we are announcing is GOD’S teaching. Tell your flock you are “waiting to see,” and if circumstances so require, tell your headquarters that you are going to follow God not them when push comes to shove. Tell them you are “sitting this one out.” Do not trust that your current leaders will be able to save your ministry. They will NOT! Only you can do this.


Now aware of God’s awesome purpose, you should in fact desire to “get out front” of what He is doing in order to help the maximum number of people. Other ministers and deacons already have. In any event, if you are not strong enough to do this, do not permit yourself to be coerced or even threatened into a position where you are soon sorry—DESPERATELY sorry!—for your actions, much like Esau found himself when he “was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears” (Heb. 12:16-17). Esau could not turn back the hands of time on what he had done. Some mistakes “go too far.” You are warned not to repeat Esau’s mistake! Time in this age is almost gone. You stand at the crossroads of history, prophecy and DESTINY. Humble yourself in the eyes of God and He will exalt you in the near future beyond what you can now imagine. You will soon be serving more of God’s people—larger congregations. DO NOT BLOW A PRECIOUS CALLING!

Dave Pack, the Documented Liar Says: Laymembers Are Too Stupid and Not Authorized To Teach - ANYTHING!




Dave Pack has his weekly letter to his dwindling flock up.  It is an incredibly long letter about how IMPORTANT he is and how the Book of Haggai is all about him.  Everything seems to be about him, but that's beside the point.   I will play with his stupidity later, but particularly wanted to get this little gem up.

Davie is NOT happy with stupid lay members writing about theology or that criticize him.  I have a feeling he does not like this blog either.


Many of God’s people now regularly waste time reading what are no more than gossip columnists (disguised as blogs) produced by laymembers whom God does not authorize to teach—anything! Proverbs warns, “An ungodly man digs up evil: and in his lips there is as a burning fire” (16:27), and such “columnists” almost invariably do plenty of digging up evil against Mr. Armstrong. As the Psalms direct, these rebellious “haters of the Lord should have submitted themselves to Him” (81:15), but instead they lampoon all forms of government, including most of all the government of God in His Church. These loathe the idea that Mr. Armstrong could have been ANYTHING special. They have NO IDEA what they are talking about when some claim that Zerubbabel is Christ, or others that Joshua is Christ. Imagine Christ inspiring the prophets Haggai and Zechariah to carry messages to Himself, or rather to both of “Himselves” since He might be both Joshua and Zerubbabel. Next imagine Christ telling Himself (twice) as He does in Haggai to “fear not” and to “be strong” and that “I am with you.” How would the God of the Old Testament be with Himself? Now imagine Christ saying He “stirred up the spirit” (Hag. 1:14) of Himself when speaking of doing this to either Zerubbabel or Joshua, or both. Further—and this is all plainly found in Zechariah 3—Joshua is: (1) seen standing with the Lord, (2) described as receiving Christ—“the Branch”—at His Return and (3) an angel duly charges (“protests” to) him about matters no angel would DARE say to Christ, who is God.

Bob Thiel Says: OMG! CO2 Levels the Highest Eveeeeeeer!!!!! This Is A SURE Sign Of Revelation 16!!!!!!!!!!!!



Bob Theil, the non-ordained self-appointed Chief Overseer, end time prophet, Chief Apostle, world renown authority on Mayan baloney and end time prophecy, is all a twitter tonight with a report from the New York Times:

It is claimed that we now have the highest level of carbon dioxide (CO2) in 3,000,000 years:
May 10, 2013
The level of the most important heat-trapping gas in the atmosphere, carbon dioxide, has passed a long-feared milestone, scientists reported on Friday, reaching a concentration not seen on the earth for millions of years.
Scientific monitors reported that the gas had reached an average daily level that surpassed 400 parts per million…The best available evidence suggests the amount of the gas in the air has not been this high for at least three million years…and scientists believe the rise portends large changes in the climate and the level of the sea.  http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/11/science/earth/carbon-dioxide-level-passes-long-feared-milestone.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Of course this has to lead directly into proof-texting Scripture to fit his worldview of an angry god pissed off at his creation.

Many scientists believe that increased CO2 levels result in increased temperature levels, and some rising of sea levels have been recorded.

The Bible itself tells of a time of disturbances including rising sea levels before Jesus returns:
25 “And there will be signs in the sun, in the moon, and in the stars; and on the earth distress of nations, with perplexity, the sea and the waves roaring;  26 men’s hearts failing them from fear and the expectation of those things which are coming on the earth, for the powers of the heavens will be shaken.  27 Then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.  (Luke 21:25-27)

41 Oh, how the praise of the whole earth is seized! How Babylon has become desolate among the nations! 42 The sea has come up over Babylon; She is covered with the multitude of its waves. 43 Her cities are a desolation, A dry land and a wilderness, A land where no one dwells, Through which no son of man passes. 44 I will punish Bel in Babylon, And I will bring out of his mouth what he has swallowed; And the nations shall not stream to him anymore. Yes, the wall of Babylon shall fall. 45 “My people, go out of the midst of her! And let everyone deliver himself from the fierce anger of the LORD (Jeremiah 51:41-45).

17 Then the seventh angel poured out his bowl into the air, and a loud voice came out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, “It is done!” 18 And there were noises and thunderings and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such a mighty and great earthquake as had not occurred since men were on the earth. 19 Now the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell. And great Babylon was remembered before God, to give her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of His wrath. 20 Then every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.  (Revelation 16:17-20)
The Bible teaches that a time of high heat is coming:
8 Then the fourth angel poured out his bowl on the sun, and power was given to him to scorch men with fire. 9 And men were scorched with great heat, and they blasphemed the name of God who has power over these plagues; and they did not repent and give Him glory.  (Revelation 16:8-9)
And although the above heat is being released by an angelic being, it may very well be that high carbon dioxide levels will predispose the planet for that heat, as well as possibly the rising sea levels.
Bob  thinks we are now close to the"time of sorrows" and it is important that people repent and join his TRUE church since there is no other on the planet at the moment but his.  His god only calls people into his "truth."

And the time for God’s judgment is coming. It is even possible that the “beginning of sorrows” which includes “troubles” has began. The time to turn to God is now, for whosoever will respond to God’s calling.