Friday, June 14, 2013

Dave Pack On Spanking Your Kids And Tithing At The Same Time



Spanking and tithing go hand in hand.  Rebellious children don't tithe as adults.  Beat the crap out of them now and scare them to death with threats of losing their salvation, and they will tithe regularly.


There are other areas of Christian conduct. Do you drink too much alcohol? Does your conversation throughout the week reflect what Christ would say—and are you actively concerned with this? How is your marriage doing, and to what degree are you focused on improving this God-plane relationship that you learned is “a divine institution, ordained of God”? Is it still special—and growing more so every day?

Are you routinely practicing the biblically-prescribed principles of childrearing? Are you consistent and unified in what you do, knowing that you are training little potential members of the God Family, and that this is only a temporary stewardship administered on God’s behalf until they reach adulthood?

Do you still faithfully tithe on every dime you earn? What about offerings, also commanded by God (Mal. 3:8-10)? I cannot let it pass without saying that tithing to any organization but God’s Church is stealing, and also throwing your money down the drain. Tithes belong to God. They cannot be used to support a mixture of good and evil knowledge—true and false doctrines. Do you still pay third tithe, or are you in one of the groups that has dismissed God’s eternal law on this subject, ignoring the command to take care of the widows, orphans, needy, strangers and Levites? Have you let the “arguments” of your leaders (UCG, COGwa and some smaller groups) convince you that God did away with this law simply because they rejected it—because they convinced you Mr. Armstrong would have made this universal decision for the Church if he were still alive?

Dave Pack: When Is The Last Time You Picked Up One Of HWA's Books?

This title explains all that is wrong with Armstrongism.  Not Dave Pack Related.


Lots more deification of  HWA but nothing about Jesus.  COG members have no right to ridicule Catholics for Mary worship.  Armstrong worship is alive and well in many of these splinter cults.


How often do you study your Bible to intensively review basic doctrines—or for personal correction in this way? When did you last pick up even one of Mr. Armstrong’s books or booklets—and carefully read it with an open Bible? (In this regard, I Timothy 4:13, “give attendance to reading,” has vital application.) How often do you do this, if at all? Now ask: “How many Christians of previous ages would covet the many books and booklets that are only gathering dust on my shelf?” How many years—or decades?!—have passed since you carried out this exercise?

Lacking this practice, how often, and to what degree, do you typically practice reading your own group’s literature in this fashion? (This is in no way said to endorse its material, but to help you take your overall temperature.) How often do you think about, talk about or study with the concept of—the very word of—truth in your mind? How often do you find yourself consciously and specifically thinking about the need to (the very words) hold fast, with Revelation 3:11 in mind? Ever?

Dave Pack: Be Prepared For 2 Hour Services Dressed In Your Finest While Taking Copious Notes




All of you COG members in LCG, PCG and UCG, had better be prepared to follow Dave Pack's Haggai II/Joshua's demands for proper Sabbath keeping.  The rules and laws just keep piling up.  Once again, nothing about Jesus, but lots and lots of law.


How do you view God’s Sabbath? Do you properly prepare for it—and welcome it when it arrives? Do you occasionally “forsake the assembling of yourself together”? If so, what has made you think that you can do this (Heb. 10:24-26)? How far have you relaxed your dress code on the Sabbath from what the entire Church once practiced when it was on track? Is your conversation filled with idle words—are you actively striving to remove them from your Sabbath discussions with other brethren? Do you still listen attentively at services, taking careful notes with an open Bible, because you plan to revisit those notes one or more times in the coming week? (I realize most of the sermons you hear are worth little more than the hot air that propelled them.) How long is the television on, and for what purpose? Has this element of your standard of conduct degenerated as per Sabbath-keeping? Do you still see the Sabbath as God’s test command? Or have you told yourself that permissive Sabbath conduct is being “balanced”? Do you believe that a 90-minute service, with its 45-minute “sermons”—both taught to you by Joe Tkach, and your leaders who obviously agreed with him!!!—is better than the established traditional two hours (with 75-minute sermons) that Mr. Armstrong taught?

What about the Feast of Tabernacles? Do you attend every service of the Feast every year—and, again, how do you dress? Per God’s command, do you still keep a full second tithe in preparation for the Feast, always turning in the excess before and after it so others, less privileged, may also attend? Does your attendance reflect loyalty to your organization, or do you attend whatever site is nearest or most attractive to you, regardless of affiliation?

Dave Pack: Splinter Group Lemmings Are Addicted To 200 Extra-Biblical Teachings

Dave calls all the members int eh splinter groups lemmings because they stay with the crowd.  That is exactly what the 1,200  members of RCG do.  They are afraid to buck the trend after they joined.  The fear and intimidation keeps them involved.  Its better to fit in and lay low than it is to open ones mouth and question.  Once more Dave describes his own group and is too stupid to realize it.


Mr. Armstrong described one of the great earmarks of Laodicea as teaching doctrines that are “less strictly biblical.” ALL the leaders and ministers of the splinters mirror this description. These men certainly say that their doctrinal changes are biblically-based. Who would say otherwise? Now, astonishingly, over 200 easily known, but largely unrecognized, false teachings exist throughout the splinters—with more all the time. How could this be? How could standards have collapsed so far that God’s people dress and act much like worldly Christians, and below the standards of my Baptist in-laws?

The answer: Spiritual blindness prevents these men from seeing their new doctrines and standards as false.

Look around you. Examine your organization. Look at Sabbath services, activities, socials and gatherings. Put aside any fun and enjoyment of fellowship you see, and ask yourself two hard questions:

(1) “Why are we not holding fast to that which we have?” (Rev. 3:11)
(2) “Who is truly washing, cleaning and purging themselves in God’s Word, seeking daily more of the Spirit of truth?

The longer you have been where you are, the more the law of spiritual inertia—that “objects in motion tend to stay in motion and objects at rest tend to stay at rest”—came into play. Coupled with the natural group instinct or “lemming effect”—to stay with the crowd—over time, inaction takes on a life of its own. This should sober—and frighten—you!