Wednesday, July 17, 2013

E W King: Sickness and Death Are The Result of Sin



“There is nothing wrong with finding out chemical deficiencies in man and trying to help but God's moral standard must never be rejected. Rejecting God's morals is what got this planet into all the trouble that it is in. There is also the false idea of so called “Christian Psychology”. Did Jesus teach this? I think not. There is a place for medical doctors but not a place for fake philosophy and so called, “Psycho-therapy”. Many have left the true teachings of the Church of God to follow the 500 plus psychotherapeutic myths. Can true Christian teachers [counselors] help people who need direction in life? Absolutely! If these people who need help have some chemical imbalance then science can indeed help. But to dismiss God's perfect moral law and the influence of the true Holy Spirit is blasphemy!

King also still believes that demons cause many physical health issues.  Armstrongism was a mixed bag when it came tot his kind of stupidity.  Some in the church thought it was demons that caused epilepsy. Many still do today in the more right wing nut-job splinter groups.

King also feels that "demonology coexists with scientific medicine."

The Bible often condemns ancient practitioners who relied on pagan gods, amulets, incantations and other forms of magic. The true Church of God continues to reject these superstitious practices. The Church of God does not deny physical principles of healing but this does not mean that there is no such thing as true demonology and that it coexists with modern scientific medicine. In other words, there are evil spiritual forces that can affect physical health. In biblical times the medical arts were indeed primitive by today's standards. The true Church of God teaches that sickness and death are the result of sin. Sin has infected this world. Sickness is both the direct and indirect result of sin. God never intended that man become sick and die. God has included this reality as part of His master plan. This is somewhat of a paradox which involves the Christian doctrine of freewill

If you are a Christian and go to a chiropractor, an acupuncturist, or other holistic therapy, then you are cavorting with demons.  Then a few paragraphs players says some of it is OK to use.

The Church of God condemns a Christian who seeks what might be called the “New Age Healing” processes. There are examples of people going to pagan healers in the Bible, a practice that God condemns.

God does not deny true medical practices. The Bible respects true doctors who use the natural laws which God has placed in static reality. There are a number of references to true physicians, healing and medicine. Exodus 21:19 talks of the beneficial, fully accepted use of "healing arts" within Israel; Isaiah 38:21 gives an example remedy for boils which Isaiah himself prescribed.  "Medical" help (within the medical technology of the time) was not condemned but was actually a fundamental component of the healing process.

In New Testament times we find the women using oils and herbs to assist in the healing process of basic ills. In Matthew 9:12, Jesus states that: "Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick." This saying is used in a metaphorical sense, but it and other similar sayings give no harsh condemnation to physicians.

True Church of God members will not use drugs, plain and simple.  You are expected to follow the example of Mr. King.  Why do these idiots refer to themselves as Mister all the time?  Davey Pack and King are the two worst offenders.

Having said this please understand, the true Church of God demands that one stay away from all drugs as much as possible and to not rely on pills as the “cure all” answer to medical problems. We suggest getting a complete physical check up to see if you might have a vitamin deficiency in regards to medical issues before anything else. Mr. E.W.King has set an example of this. Mr. E.W.King was at one time receiving chest pains. He went to get a thorough medical exam and found that he was lacking certain vitamins which were effecting is pancreas. By supplementing his food intake with vitamin supplements his illness was cured.  Mr. E.W.King has also, on the other hand, received man made medication in certain circumstances to assist with other issues. The point is, we must try natural resources first.
True Church of God members are to trust Mr. King with their lives as he is able to channel "true understanding."  Mr. King is also a humorous foodologist.
So we see that Mr. E.W.King has a very good and moderate understanding of diet with a bit of humor as far as food is concerned. The true Church of God does not promote vegetarianism. At the same time we do not condemn members who wish to practice it. But please understand, to strictly promote vegetarianism is a sin in the eyes of the true Church. Here is another article written by Mr. E.W.King which talks about the problems of a strict vegetarian diet from a biblical perspective.

Mr. King also dieresis vegetarianism.  He says that vegetarians have been infused with the pagan virus of paganism.

Now, as I proceed in this article many may begin to get upset. Why? Because Satan has began to infuse his pagan virus of paganism into those who are not awake. Please understand, true Christians do not believe in being “vegetarian”. Meat has certain protiens in it that a vegtable diet cannot offer. Humans need certain amino acids that a pure vegtable diet cannot provide.

You will be happy to know that "probiotics" are fit for Christians to use.

Probiotics are a healthy bacteria found in yogurt and other slightly fermented foods. COGSR teaches that probiotics contain altering microbes that could be used to help treat depression and anxiety. The Science of Christian Thought offers this diet supplement to aid depression rather than taking all the psycho-babel drugs offered by psychologists and psychiatrists



Tuesday, July 16, 2013

Davey Pack: Humans Are Just Squatters and Renters In God's Homes, Everything Belongs to God (and Me)



One should never pay tithes to God’s representatives and then try to supervise or otherwise watch over the way the ministry or Church headquarters spends them. The ministry answers to God because it is God who employs them, not the people who paid the tithes.


I was checking out the Preterism blog today and they had a short entry on Davey Pack.

It says this:

Today, Pack is claiming the beast of Revelation is “just ahead.” Armstrong made the same claim in 1934 suggesting the beast might be Mussolini, Stalin or Roosevelt. In 1956, he predicted the Great Tribulation would arrive by 1975. Of course, all this came to nothing. So, why Pack wants to be associated with such an abysmal failure is baffling. It’s doubtful he spends any time telling his duped followers about Armstrong’s failed predictions. (Revealing the truth would undoubtedly affect his income stream.)

Here is what Davey says about money:

What You Earn Is Not Your Own

He then blabbers on about banks and loan companies that actually "own" your home.  That the government requires taxes.  But what then is left after taxes? Who owns that?

Davey says that God owns all that you ahve.
 
Notice. God says, “For all the earth is Mine” (Ex. 19:5) and “Behold, the heaven and the heaven of heavens is the Lord’s your God, the earth also, with all that therein is” (Deut. 10:14) and also “whatsoever is under the whole heaven is Mine” (Job 41:11). King David wrote, “The earth is the Lord’s, and the fullness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein” (Psa. 24:1). I Corinthians 10:26 repeats his words.

God also says, “For every beast of the forest is Mine, and the cattle upon a thousand hills...If I were hungry, I would not tell you: for the world is Mine, and the fullness thereof” (Psa. 50:10, 12). Finally, the prophet Haggai wrote, “The silver is Mine, and the gold is Mine, says the Lord” (Hag. 2:8).

All money is God’s (remember, the value of money is generally attached in some way to gold and silver). He owns absolutely everything there is to own. Human beings are “squatters” on His land and “renters” in His homes. Everything you think you own is actually owned by God. You are merely its temporary custodian.

That is Davey's slick way of preparing his acolytes that all their money belongs to God and that they need to send it all in.

People manufacture products from natural resources, which come from the earth, but it is God who makes both the natural resources and the earth in which they are found. Men may own mining or timber rights, but it is ultimately God who owns the mine and created the timber, which grew because of elements in the soil—which He created and owns!
Any time Davey's god tells him to demand money from his members, they MUST send it ALL in.  After all, it is not theirs!  It is God's and Davey is God's custodian.

Any time He wishes, God could take back all that is His. After all, it is His! This includes your income. While you may have “earned it,” God owns it.

What things belong to God? Remember, we are to “Render...to God the things that are God’s.” Render means give. Since the heavens and the earth (or the land on which we live) cannot be “rendered” back to God by human beings, what does this mean?

We saw our entire income (salary, wages, interest earned, investments, bonuses, commissions and any other financial increase) actually belongs to God.

Davey then gos on to pretend that his members are required to tithe by his god:

God lays prior claim to the first 10 percent of everything people earn as income. This is called the tithe, meaning “the tenth.” To be a tithepayer means the same as being a “tenthpayer.” Tithe is an old English word commonly used to mean tenth. People have long understood that to tithe is to pay a tenth of one’s income.

There are small and large points within God’s Law. Some commands carry more “weight” than others. When speaking of some lesser points within God’s Law, Christ said, “Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven” (Matt. 5:19).
Davey then shoots himself in the foot by talking about a "pagan" so-called Christian who tithed and prospered.  Davey's members should be asking themselves: If God blessed that guy who tithes to a non COG, then why can't I give to another COG or non-COG church and be blessed?  Why does Davey get it all?

I have known men who sought to make God their partner. In my hometown of Lima, Ohio, a well-known, successful businessman put a sign on his factory saying, “God is my Partner.” He certainly did prosper.

John D. Rockefeller, the famous patriarch of the Rockefeller family, tithed. Other well-known tithepayers have prospered because they followed this principle.

No one can make God his partner. We cannot “let God in” on a “business deal” with us. But God can choose to make individual tithepayers His partners!
 Davey then goes on to tell his acolytes that they "have no voice" in how he sues the money they "give" him.

Tithing works in this way. Each time you tithe, you have paid the latest in a long string of ongoing regular “bills” sent to you from God. Actually, His bill is always to be the first one paid! God is not willing to stand in line behind other creditors who represent mere human organizations to whom the tithepayer may also have existing or on-going obligations. Remember, God gives 90 percent of your income. What other organization would do this?

Another important principle to note: Tithes paid to God work differently from money put in a bank. If you place your money in a bank, you expect that bank to keep careful track of the funds you have deposited and to give you a periodic accounting. The bank remains responsible to you for keeping proper track of your funds. The reason is simple. Though the bank may be holding your money, it is still your money! The same with stocks or other investments. Brokers account to the investor.

Tithing is different! Since tithes belong to God, once they are paid, God (or His representative) is not obligated to explain exactly how, or in what fashion, they were spent. One should never pay tithes to God’s representatives and then try to supervise or otherwise watch over the way the ministry or Church headquarters spends them. The ministry answers to God because it is God who employs them, not the people who paid the tithes. God owns His “company,” and He has the authority to hire (or fire) His employees—His ministers. Tithepayers have no voice in how they are spent.

Davey says all money belongs to him since he is the ONLY faithful COG leader out there.:

It is only to the faithful ministry of the true Church—the only Church Christ built—that tithes should be paid. Those laboring full-time in the Work of God are hired and paid directly by God! Since tithes cannot be sent to heaven, He designates they go to His earthly representatives.
Davey then warns his followers, "I have now done my part.  If you do not tithe you will be gut off by God!"  As usual it is scare tactic time.  Make people fear for their salvation if they do not tithe.  Tithing is a salvation issue with Davey,, something that it never was through human history.

 I have now done my part. I have taught you the truth about tithing. You have been given essential knowledge that you must act on, in order to be given more. Christ said, “Walk while you have the light, lest darkness come upon you: for he that walks in darkness knows not where he goes. While you have light, believe in the light, that you may be the children of light” (John 12:35-36). Further, notice this warning to all: “Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward you, goodness, IF you continue in His goodness: otherwise you also shall be cut off” (Rom. 11:22).
He then concludes with this asinine comment:

Tithing is a law. Like any other law, there is an automatic cause and effect relationship. Why do you keep the law of gravity? Because if you break it, you know there will be an immediate, visible and sometimes painful effect. Jumping from a 10-story building brings real consequences.

The tithing law is no different. If we break it, it breaks us. But if we keep it, it keeps us. But there is one fundamental difference between tithing, which is a spiritual law, and physical laws. Breaking spiritual laws rarely brings immediate effects on the offender. There is a delayed penalty—but a penalty, nonetheless.






















Bob Thiel: Only Philadelphia Christians (i.e. Continuing Ed Church of God) Will Flee To Safety In Petra



Once again, Bob Thiel, the non-ordained self-appointed false prophet of the Continuing Ed Church of God, emphasizes just how special his little group is.  Only those in the CedCOG are the true Philadelphia church and all other COG's are apostates. 

The easy translation is, if you belong to Bob - you are saved, if you belong to another dude - you are NOT going to Petra!

Can you imagine what a slug fest it is going to be when all these various COG's all show up at the narrow gate to Petra and they start fighting about who really belongs there.  What a bunch of morons!

It is interesting to note that Jesus was telling Christians that when they see Daniel 11:31/12:11 fulfilled, then Christians need to flee. And that they should pray that this flight will not be on the Sabbath (Saturday) or the winter. Do you pray that?

Why do people flee?


People flee to be protected!
Fleeing does not sound much like being “raptured.”

What happens after Christ’s people flee? Jesus explains:
For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be (Matthew 24:21).
But are any Christians promised protection from this tribulation?
Yes, notice what Jesus told the Philadelphia Church:
7 And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write…10 Because you have kept My command to persevere, I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth (Revelation 3:7,10).
It needs to be emphasized that ONLY the Philadelphia portion of the Church of God, other Christians will be affected by the Great Tribulation and the related persecutions (Revelation 12:17).