Friday, June 17, 2016

Church of God False Teacher Claims Women Can Only Sing In Church and NOT Preach

and preach...



The Church of God's newest self-appointed false prophet was not particularly happy when The Journal recently had a series of articles on women preaching. The die-hard legalists just cannot get past the idea that only THIER opinions and interpretations are valid.

Almost Arrested Elisha Elijah Amos Thiel lashes out at Tina Engelbart and her interpretation of the Greek words for women preaching.  The most important thing for COG leaders like Thiel, Flurry, Pack and Kubik is that the patriarchy must always reign supreme.

For a woman to preach in church seems to be the most disgusting thing ever to happen.  The only thing women are allowed to do is nurse babies, change diapers and sing.  Women may sing all they want, as long as they don't preach while singing.
First, while Tina Engelbart is entitled to her opinion about what she thinks the Greek means, the reality is that there is no record of Christian women preaching in either the New Testament nor in early Christian writings. While it is possible that the apostate Simon Magus may have had a female preach, and maybe did some other apostates, people who understood koine Greek at the time apparently did not feel that the Apostle Paul was allowing women to preach. 
Second, UCG is correct that women should not be preaching. This is confirmed by the following passage that is in the Bible (hence, even allowing for a different translation of 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, this is not something only to be derived from the Talmud as Tina Engelbart indicates): 
11 Let a woman learn in silence with all submission. 12 And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence. (1 Timothy 2:11-12). 
Third, as far as the Talmud goes, Tina Engelbart needs to consider that the Jews DID allow women to sing and hence the prohibition they had related to women speaking before the assembly did not include singing. That is the same in the Christian church as well.

Thursday, June 16, 2016

Mario Hernandez from Living Church of God Lists Requirements To Make It Into Petra



Originally posted December 2014

This has to be one of the most pathetic videos I have seen the Living Church of God put online in ages.  Hernandez had a long legacy in Pasadena as a self-righteous, condescending, and abusive man.  Many Spanish COG members suffered at the hands of this man and now he is back to lecture us all on what his god requires in order to make it to the "place of safety." That's going to be a rough trip for Hernandez and the LCG when they arrive and see Bob Thiel, Gerald Flurry and Dave Pack in charge.

Persecution is coming.  Germany has risen from the ashes, Herbert was right. The devil is rampaging. War is a raging in heaven.

I have a feeling that Bob Thiel was trained at the feet of Hernandez because they both produce the most boring and intellectually bankrupt videos imaginable!