Living Church of God Is the Watchman...Out of which the prophet will arise

It is comforting to know that we have the Living Church of God to rely upon for the truth as it presents a FORCEFUL message to the world. They will be soon so powerful with that message that a prophet will arrive out of them. Bob Thiel must be getting excited!

The problem with this message is that it is the same one that Meredith and others have been spouting for decades and still nothing has happened.  But lo!  It is always just a few short years away.

The Church as a Watchman: Many churches today feel their sole mission is to tell the world that God loves everybody and that Jesus came to save sinners. While essentially true, there is much more to the biblical message. Jesus came preaching the Gospel of the coming Kingdom of God (Mark 1:14–15). Jesus also told His disciples to be alert and watch for specific events that would mark the approaching end of the age and His return to this earth to establish the Kingdom (Matthew 24; Mark 13; Luke 21). These prophesied events—droughts, floods, famines, wars and spreading violence, religious confusion, and moral corruption—will be making news at the same time that we see the rise of a political power in Europe with definite links to the ancient Roman Empire. This power will be promoted by an ecumenical-minded Roman Church. This end-time European power will be confronted by a rising Arab-Islamic power in the Middle East (see Daniel 7and 11; Revelation 13). However, just as God raised up prophets to warn the ancient nations of Israel and Judah that their ungodly ways would bring serious consequences, the Church of God today has a similar mission to function as a watchman—to “Cry aloud, spare not” and warn modern Israelite nations of the coming consequences of their sinful ways (Ezekiel 2; 3; 33; Isaiah 58:1). Delivering this powerful warning message must accompany the preaching of the Gospel of the coming Kingdom of God.

Have a profitable Sabbath,

Douglas S. Winnail

Mark Armstrong: No One Has Died From "Chinese Virus" NO ONE!

The stupidity continues to reign supreme in COGland. Here you have the "plain truth" from God's mighty servant Mark Armstrong. No one has died from COVID-19. Plus, his added bonus is that he could care less about mask mandates.  Unless his god tells him to wear it, he won't.

Some of us have been highly suspicious of the media reporting about the Chinese virus.  Yes, we do know of a handful of people who are said to have tested positive.  But none of them died, and for some it was a matter of something like the common cold.  For others we know it was like a bad flu, but they survived it and are doing fine.  Nevertheless, every news report claims a new spike in cases, and proceeds to lecture that you must be afraid.

News anchors across the board read the “wire,” claiming that cases are “exploding” in state after state, county after county, city after city.  You must proceed with fear, assuming you proceed at all.   They express total exasperation at President Trump for not having issued a national mask order.  Meanwhile lawsuits are flying over mask “mandates.”  All the mandates we care about are the ones God ordained. 

Gerald Flurry Upset Not All PCG Members Worship His "New Throne of David" Stone

PCG: It all started at a rock

It is well documented here about how Gerald Flurry, in his endless quest to imitate Herbert Armstrong, traipsed off to Oregon and searched the hills of a farm for a rock where God's most perfect human leader had supposedly knelt down and prayer at. Flurry wears the same kind of clothes and pretends he is an apostle just like Herbert Armstrong, his idol. Flurry has even built his own mini-me auditorium to look like Herberts Ambassador Auditorium. His auditorium has Herbert's candelabra and grand piano from Pasadena. On top of that, he has even named his imitation "college" Herbert W Armstrong College. All of those things are just minor details compared to the rock he dug up.

Flurry's god supposedly spoke to him in a dream and told him that Herb's rock was now the new coronation stone that Jesus Christ will come back to and be crowned King of kings upon. Forget the coronation stone that was formally in Westminster Abbey that British Israelites love to claim as Jacob's stone where he dreamed upon and the stone that English Kings and queens have been crowned upon for hundreds of years. COG mythmakers love to claim that it was brought by Jeremiah to the isles when he supposedly traveled there with his daughters.

Flurry has expanded the myths about the real coronation stone and now claims his god has removed its blessing upon that stone and has now blessed the Stone of Herbert as the new stone Jesus will return to.

Flurry has now turned this myth into doctrine and wrote numerous stories for his magazines, did videos on it, and countless magazine articles. Members were expected to take this drivel as god-inspired doctrine just because Flurry claimed his god spoke to him.

The first time Flurry displayed the rock it was next to one of his buildings and made it into a meditation area where people could sit and contemplate the holy rock. Then as his myth-making elevated the stone to new heights of absurdity, it was placed in a glass case resting upon a bed of royal blue velvet where it can be adoringly gazed upon.

But, but all is not well on the cult compound or in PCG as some members have not fallen for this lie and Flurry is NOT happy!  To not fall for it is a direct slap in his face because it proves that some members question his authority to make these kinds of comments and doctrinal directives.

COGNews reports on this:

Gerald Flurry claims the authority to declare that Herbert Armstrong’s ‘prayer rock’ is the new Stone of Destiny and the Throne of David, but for a long time it was actually the Stone of Scone and the coronation stone of British monarchs. 

He writes on page 117 of his book, The New Throne of David:  

In the past, when God has given me new revelation, words flowed into my mind and entered my thought process, often leading me to certain scriptures. But with the revelation about the new stone and throne, it was different. This time, I heard a strong voice. It was more powerful. I don’t think anyone else would have heard anything, but I certainly heard it. It really startled me, as I think it would anyone. That was the first time I had ever experienced anything like that.

That voice left me somewhat shaken, but in a good way. As soon as I heard it, I started studying the Bible; I wanted to prove that revelation from God’s Word. After studying, I began to see that Jesus Christ was establishing a new throne, just like that voice had said. I began to find all the scriptures and put them together. You can do the same thing: This book goes through many scriptures that prove this truth. You don’t just have to accept my word for it: You can prove that voice came from God.

I understand why some would question this, if I just heard a voice and didn’t have any proof from the Bible. But when you put all this evidence together, it proves that I really did hear a voice from God! The proof is all laid out in the Bible. You don’t want to follow someone who has simply heard a voice – I certainly don’t! It requires study, prayer and meditation on your part. There are also voices coming from the devil.

Numbers 16 and 17 record a disagreement over who should be in charge in Israel. Without clear government, authority and leadership, you have murmuring and problems; that is human nature. So God instructed Moses to have the leaders of each tribe submit a rod, and then said, “And it shall come to pass that the man’s rod, whom I shall choose, shall blossom: and I will make to cease from me the murmurings of the children of Israel, whereby they murmur against you.” (Numbers 17:5)

What do you do if there is murmuring against God’s leader? Somehow you have to convince them they are wrong, or they are going to be put in the outer court …

In Moses’s day, God warned that those who didn’t stop murmuring and rebelling would die (Numbers 17:10). That is what God says to us spiritually. At some point you must stop the murmuring and rebelling, or you’re going to die! That is the opposite of the total trust God is building in His people. This is about eternal life and eternal death … Some of God’s people will soon present that throne to Jesus Christ at His Second Coming! How can someone do that if he doesn’t really understand these things? 

It is amazing to watch all of these stinking turds that lead various COG's as they make these kinds of statements in order to keep their members in line. None of these abusive men have any qualifications whatsoever to claim that God would punish members for failing to heed their directives.

COGNews has this describing how Flurry is justifying himself to his members and what will happen when they ignore him:

Gerald Flurry admits that there is dissension within the PCG over his declaration that the rock at which Herbert Armstrong prayed for a few days in the 1930s is ‘The New Throne of David’. 

Gerald Flurry has written an article for the July-August 2020 issue of the Royal Vision magazine – a foundational lesson we must learn in order to build up the throne of David. The article includes a correction box, explaining that his level of authority in the church is far above that of the other ministers.

CORRECTION: An article in the July-August 2003 Royal Vision, titled, “Was Peter the Chief Apostle?” stated: “Peter alone is given the ‘keys’ to the kingdom of heaven! Later, the authority to ‘bind’ and ‘loose’ was given to the other apostles as well (see Matthew 18:18), but only Peter was given the ‘keys’ …”

Actually, the authority to bind and loose given to the other apostles was not the same authority given to Peter to bind and loose. Peter, as chief apostle, had the sole authority to make judgments and decisions, or policies, that affected the entire Church. No one else was given that level of authority – to make judgments that amplify God’s law in particular circumstances that would apply to the entire Church.
The context of Matthew 18 shows that other ministers were given authority to bind and loose in order to make judgments, or decisions, regarding people in the Church who were not getting along as they should (see Matthew 18:15-18). These were more “localized” judgments to bind and loose regarding contentions or offenses between brethren, not at all on the same level as the authority given 

The context of Matthew 18 shows that other ministers were given authority to bind and loose in order to make judgments, or decisions, regarding people in the Church who were not getting along as they should (see Matthew 18:15-18). These were more “localized” judgments to bind and loose regarding contentions or offenses between brethren, not at all on the same level as the authority given only to the chief apostle.

This is similar to a declaration by Herbert Armstrong in 1980:

The title, and the keys, passed from chief apostle to chief apostle, from Peter to Peter.

Each chief apostle was the new Peter.

Now I am the chief apostle, and I am the Peter.

Whatever I bind is bound in heaven, and whatever I loose is loosed in heaven.

The Day of Pentecost is now on Sunday. But, since I had made the decision to observe Pentecost on Monday, for years the Day of Pentecost was actually on Monday.

The stuff that these men in the church pass off as truth and doctrine is nothing more than spiritual diarrhea. That includes all of the junk Bob Thiel preaches and the mindless absurdities of Dave Pack.  Never has the Church of God movement has such sick men leading groups as it does today.

Hopefully, it is true some PCG members can see through this stuff and may start to question other things. Restored Church of God members are also starting to wake up. If more people did this there would be no income for these charlatans and their churches would implode.  Great will be that day!