Audio: The Clarion Call of Apostle David C Pack

An audio copy of "Apostle Pack's" Clarion Call has finally surfaced. I believe this particular sermon/rant was the beginning of Dave's and the inevitable end of the Restored Church of God in time. 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1h_IT3D4QI2jFYk0Wb0qcBFCSoggLFoKp/view?usp=sharing 

37 : 10

"And frankly, we flee before any of it comes due"

UPDATED: Dave Pack Demands Members Sell All, Their Eternal Life Depends On It

Video and audio files can be found here and on Rumble

 

The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 378)

David C. Pack - June 15, 2022

 

@ 30:57 “But I would just say to all of God’s people, you know, you’re gonna hafta sell all. You’re gonna hafta keep your lights burning. You’re gonna have to stay stay close to God. There is no evidence that the the seventh era can get salvation through this period [starting in Tammuz]. They’re councelled to buy gold tried in the fire and to overcome as Christ did. That’s gonna be after this period. So, that’s important to understand.”

 

There are people inside the Restored Church of God who wisely did not yet “sell all” before May 15^th, May 30^th, Pentecost June 5^th, and before yesterday, June 14^th. Why would anyone possibly think NOW is the time to do that? If they did not give it up with four recent “dates of failure,” why would any sane person consider the fifth?

 

@ 32:10 “And God’s people around the world, I’m telling you, if you’re sitting on funds, don’t! You’re gonna lose it soon after, anyway. So, why not why not gain eternal life with it? Continue to to be loving and kind. Continue to give alms. Why is that stressed? Because we’re going into a dark period. It’s gonna be hard. People around you don’t love anybody. They have a tremendous amount of love, I should say, for themselves. They’re lovers of their own selves. That’s who they love. Intensely!”

 

2 Peter 2:3 And  through covetousness shall they [false prophets] with feigned words make merchandise  of you: whose judgment  now of a long time  lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

Marc Cebrian

"The Worldwide Church of God" An Interview With Glynn Washington (Worldwide: The Unchosen Church Podcast 3)

 

Glynn Washington is a highly successful podcaster, hosting shows such as Snap Judgment, Spooked and Heaven’s Gate. But I bet you didn’t know that his storytelling style is highly influenced by cult leader, Herbert W. Armstrong of the Worldwide Church of God. How did Glynn end up in this cult? What did he take from Armstrong? And what was it like to be in a black family that joined a “white supremacist Jesus cult?” Glynn Washington takes us through the answers to these questions on episode three of Worldwide: The Unchosen Church.

Hosted, written and produced by Dr. Tricia Jenkins. Sound design and editing by Thirteen Media.

Special thanks to Glynn Washington for his participation in this episode. Glynn is the host of his own podcast Snap Judgment, which can be found on Apple podcasts, or wherever podcasts are hosted.

Trust In God and Stand In Awe: An Interview With Jesse Moskel (Worldwide: The Unchosen Church #2)

 

What is it like to watch your three-year-old sister succumb to leukemia, while your family relies on prayer, rather than doctors, to save her? How does being raised by an authoritarian father, who is also a minister in an authoritarian church, add to that trauma? And how might those experiences connect to your being sentenced to both the death penalty and a life sentence as an adult in a Thai prison?  Jesse Moskel answers these questions in episode two of Worldwide: The Unchosen Church, offering listeners a tough but uplifting look at the costs of high demand religious groups and the power of perspective and perseverance in our most dire days. 

 

Hosted, written and produced by Dr. Tricia Jenkins.  Sound design and editing by Thirteen Media.

 

Previous article here on Banned about Jesse Moskel:

Locked Up Abroad: National Geographic Story On Former COG Member Story Of Redemption 

Dare To Doubt: Encouragement for Those Who Doubt in the RCG Ministry Currently Attending Their Ministerial Conference in Wadsworth, Ohio

 

So, there you sit. Sermon after sermon. Day after day and hour after hour listening to Apostle Elijah the Prophet David C Pack spin his non-Gospel tales about himself and his endlessly incorrect math about the coming of Jesus.  

Some of you must be sitting down on the outside and yet standing up to this foolish theology on the inside. You won't be at peace until the inside and the outside match.

If you head is telling you, "This could be". "This will pass". "This doesn't matter if it is true or not". This is nuts but...", but your stomach is telling you, "I didn't sign up for this and how do I get out of this alive...", your head is lying to you.  Your stomach is telling you your personal truth in this matter.

I understand the turmoil you are feeling and the fear of personal change and moving on some of you,  have to be considering. 

I assume those, few though they may be seeking support and encouragement, have found Banned, even during your conference, and your conference may be solidifying your doubts.

My hope is that this explanation of what you may have gotten yourself into can help you move on and put yourself first in your life.  No one is going to take care of your mental, emotional and spiritual self but YOU. 

I can't speak for anyone here on Banned but myself, but I wish you well in the difficult decision and process that arises when one realizes that sincere as one might be, the sincerity is being squandered in the wrong place and devotion to the cause is to the wrong people. 

I understand the chaos of change. There are many resources available to you emotionally and spiritually should your conference experience produce a personal "Enough is enough".

And too:  No, I am not just Satan trying to deceive you and trying just to lead you out of God's True Church under the True Apostleship of the End Time Prophet Elijah. I was one of you in many ways. I know how that niggly doubt that builds over years works. 

Dare to Doubt

Wonder if you might be in a cult? Confident that you are not? Some cults show dangerous intent upfront, requiring harmful or illegal initiation rites. Most destructive groups appear far more appealing, with unhealthy traits slowly revealed over time.

We think therapist Roseanne Henry said it best when she wrote on her website Cult Recover:

 "When ex-members had been polled (at ICSA Recovery Workshops) they consistently gave these reasons for joining their groups: Idealism, Friendship, Love, Freedom, Community, Mission, Sincerity, Salvation, Enlightenment, Spiritual high.

People don’t join cults. They get involved in groups they are led to believe represent these high ideals."

The following questions are adapted from a checklist developed by Michael D. Langone, Ph.D., Executive Director of International Cultic Studies Association (ICSA). This list is not a diagnostic tool. It is only meant to help you analyze for yourself whether you may have cause for concern based on common patterns found in cultic groups.

• Does your group show unquestioning commitment to its leader, alive or dead?

CHECK  

• Are doubts and questions discouraged or punished?

CHECK

• Are mind-altering techniques such as (meditation, chanting, speaking in tongues, and sleep deprivation or overworking used in excess which, unwittingly or not, often serve to suppress doubts about the group and its leadership)?

SOMEWHAT counting free labor and constant sermon bombing 

• Does the leadership dictate how members should think, act, and feel? How they should dress, where they should live, and whom they should marry?

CHECK

• Does the group feel they’re on a special mission to save humanity? Do they see their leader as a special being or an avatar?

CHECK, CHECK, CHECK  

• Does the group have an us-versus-them mentality?

CHECK

• Does the leadership induce feelings of shame or guilt in order to influence or control members? Often this is often done through peer pressure and subtle forms of persuasion.

CHECK 

• Does the group require members to cut ties with family and friends, or to radically alter the personal goals and activities members had before they joined?

CHECK

• Is the group preoccupied with bringing in new members and/or making money?

CHECK

• Do you fear backlash to yourself or others if you leave—or even consider leaving—the group?

CHECK

If you answered 'yes' to some of these questions, it does not automatically mean you are in a cult. We acknowledge the subjectivity of words like "excessive" and "radical." What's considered excessive one person may seem like not enough to someone else. Trust yourself. What's true for others does not have to be true for you.

Where Is the Line Between Destructive and Healthy?

That line may be different for every person. You are the one responsible for you. It's important to emphasize that not all groups are harmful. Sometimes it's hard to distinguish whether a religion or organization is destructive or not. There is what Steven Hassan, leading cult expert and founder of Freedom of Mind Resource Center, calls an Influence Continuum, a spectrum of healthy and unhealthy influence:

Again, we reiterate: Not all churches, religions, and organizations are cults. Expressions of these groups, however, can be cultish. Instead of focusing on the faith, ideology, or belief system of a group, focus on the behavior of the people involved. Don't disregard your feelings. Determine for yourself whether the group is healthy FOR YOU.