Robert L Kuhn, Illuminati Handler?

Never let it be said that the Church of God movement (Millerite) is a normal, run of the mill organization. One would be truly hard pressed to find any normalcy in any of the groups.  The church has always been a hotbed of prophecy nuts and conspiracy theorists that surpass the legalists in their crazy fervour.

From the Jesuits, the Jews and to the Illuminati, the Church of God was fertile is ground for wild and crazy imaginations.

When Stan Rader and Robert Kuhn hit the scene, the jealous and bitter leading men of the church started their chatter in order to discredit them both. Any smear they could imagine, they spread it.

In 2018, they craziness still continues.

In the course of doing some research for an entry on China’s “first lady” Peng Liyuan and China’s central bank governor Zhou Xiaochuan, I came across a passage in the Chinese President’s Wikipedia bio that caught my eye…

>>> Xi is now the leader of the People’s Republic’s fifth generation of leadership. He has initiated a renewed campaign against corruption, further market economic reforms, governing with greater emphasis on the law and legal institutions, and a comprehensive national renewal under the neologism “Chinese Dream.” <<<

Curious about the “Chinese dream,” I clicked on the provided link and saw something else that caught my eye…

>>> According to Robert Lawrence Kuhn, who is an international investment banker and the author of “How China’s Leaders Think: The Inside Story of China’s Reform and What This Means for the Future,” the Chinese Dream has four parts: Strong China (economically, politically, diplomatically, scientifically, militarily); Civilized China (equity and fairness, rich culture, high morals); Harmonious China (amity among social classes); Beautiful China (healthy environment, low pollution). <<<

Upon reading this, I thought to myself, “How does this guy know so much about how China’s leaders think? Why is he, a Western “Jew,” defining the Chinese Dream? And is he related to the Kuhn bankster family?”

Those evil Joo's always working behind the scenes to destroy humanity. Armstrongism conspiracy at its finest.

1) He has been deeply involved in an “End Times” prophecy cult and the promotion of the New World Religion

Despite being “Jewish,” Robert Lawrence Kuhn was deeply involved in a Christian “End Times” prophecy cult called the Worldwide Church of God (WCG), and the story of what happened within that group is a very sordid tale told from a multiplicity of different perspectives. After sorting through a variety of “he said, she said” narratives from a number of sources, this is what I took away from it…

The WCG was the ministry of a Christian pastor named H.W. Armstrong, who had been amassing a growing following due to his radio broadcasts and prophetic doctrines. It would appear that the Illuminati noticed this and targeted the ministry for a standard infiltration and subversion operation, and it seems that Robert L. Kuhn and a fellow “Jew” named Stanley Rader were tapped for the op. According to Stanley Rader’s bio…

>>> In 1956 Rader met Armstrong, leader of what was then called the Radio Church of God, at its headquarters offices in Pasadena, California. Under contract with the Radio Church of God, Rader worked on improving its accounting system, thereby creating a highly favorable impression with Armstrong, who then urged him to attend law school at Armstrong’s expense…

After coming to terms regarding salary and compensation, in 1969 Rader decided to devote his full-time to the service of Armstrong…

Rader, who still considered himself Jewish, was baptized into WCG by Armstrong in 1975 using a hotel bathtub in the Mandarin Hotel in Hong Kong. This move allowed Rader to reposition himself as a high-ranking church evangelist in an attempt to quell misgivings by many in the ministerial hierarchy, who felt that Rader’s undue influence on Armstrong was troubling. <<<

At some point along the way, Rader was joined in the organization by his reputed close friend Robert Lawrence Kuhn…

>>> Kuhn first came to prominence in 1972 when “Why the Vast Difference between Animal Brain and Human Mind?” appeared in The Plain Truth magazine published by Ambassador College, an institution of the Worldwide Church of God (WCG). The WCG’s Systematic Theology Project was coordinated by Kuhn, but later banned by WCG Founder Herbert W. Armstrong. <<<

After their infiltration of the WCG, Rader and Kuhn became a tag team of subversion within the cult. Rader managed to get control of the Church’s finances, and Kuhn attempted to get control of the Church’s doctrine (through the “Systematic Theology Project” and other efforts). But H.W. Armstrong and many members of the WCG were troubled by all the changes Kuhn was attempting to implement…

Using the Bethel Church of God as a credible source is like using Dave Pack's COG history as a credible source.  It is not.

One of the main reasons so many in the upper echelon's of the church dislike Kuhn was because he was intelligent!  His early series in the Plain Truth on the brain sent many of the non-intellectuals like Rod Meredith over the deep end.  Kuhn was highly educated and had done lots of scientific research and investigations, something no Ambassador College trained minister was ever encouraged to do or was taught to do. Higher education outside the bounds of an Ambassador "Master's or its so-called PhD" was frowned upon.

The author also acts as if Kuhn was the brains behind the Systematic Theology Project.  He wasn't.  It was the entire Council of Elders, GTA, Meredith and others.  For so many of these men to come out later and lie, like HWA did, that they knew nothing about it was ridiculous.  The all knew, they all read the submitted papers and sat there and discussed them! Then to lie after HWA pitched his fit, they were more than eager to stab fellow ministers in the back in order to gain HWA's trust.

You can read the rest of this craziness here:  Meet Robert Lawrence Kuhn, Illuminati handler of China’s leaders

Wayne Matthews: People Who Give Money to Charity Are Selfish

Wayne Matthews of Ron Weinland's rapidly dwindling cult, preached a sermon recently on Walking in the Spirit.  He starts out by quoting Galatians 5:16,

"16 Live by the Spirit, I say, and do not gratify the desires of the flesh. NRSV

Like any good Armstrongite, Matthews claims that no one outside COGPK can truly understand what this verse is about.  Leave it to Matthews to turn the verse into one concerning money.

Money is one of Ron Weinland's favorite subject!  After all, Laura his dingy wife and Second Witless Witness needs some more diamond rings so it is important to keep the money coming in!  Weinland loved money so much he even went to prison for it. 

But there seems to be a problem in COGPK  these days.  It seems COGPK members are not as fruitful with their money now that Weinland's prophecies have all failed and that he is now is waylaid due to a heart attack.  Why give money to a weak and impotent little man who is well-known to be a failure?  Some COGPK members have apparently been giving money elsewhere, and that is not kosher! Even then, their motives are suspect!

People will give something (they may give a hundred dollars to a charity), well, their motive really is selfish. They can’t see it. They can’t understand it, but we can see it that deep down there’s something coming back to them. They wouldn’t think it; they’re just giving a hundred dollars to a charity, therefore, it looks good on the outside, but deep, deep down their motive is selfish. Well, when we give a hundred dollars to whatever – the highest priority, of course, is God’s Church. If you had excess money why wouldn’t you give it to God’s Church to God’s work on this earth rather than to something physical?

How dare you give money to someone not in the COG! God's second Witless Witness needs it more!  When you help others you apparently grieve the Holy Spirit, even though it SHOULD have been working through you to give that money to the church.

It is all your fault.

Always.

Is it wrong to be open minded?

One of the things I heard many times growing up in the church and at Ambassador, was to not be too open-minded because our brains would fall out.  Being open-minded was opening the mind up to allow Satan to take over to deceive us.

After being in the church for many years it was obvious as to why the church discouraged open-mindedness.  It allowed people to discover the church as not all it was claiming to be.

Milquetoast COG Ministers Struggled to Preach from Pulpit Because of Women in Short Dresses

Reading the following quotes from Herber W Armstrong reminds me how Muslims demand their women cover up because the men will be tempted.     It is always the woman's fault instead of the weak men who cannot control their urges or desires. Sadly, the Church of God history has a track record of its leaders unable to control their urges.

HWA SPEAKS OUT ON WOMEN'S DRESSES:

"...And I want to say, before quoting from the former article, that God's ministers are quite frequently embarrassed, while preaching in the pulpit, by women wearing too short skirts that do not cover their knees, sitting with their knees spread apart at least eight or ten inches. Usually the careless ones are middle-aged or elderly women. Just once, I believe, have I personally noticed this inexcusable carelessness on the part of a college girl. This happens REPEATEDLY. Personally, I have not wanted to publicly embarrass these women. But if, after this article has appeared in print, such carelessness occurs again in my sight, I shall personally reprimand such women regardless of the painful embarrassment it may cause them!"

"In our teaching on child rearing, based on God's Word, we teach parents to speak plainly JUST ONCE-and then punish. The women guilty of this neglect are old enough to know better, but they are our spiritual children, and I am instructing all ministers to PRACTICE WHAT WE PREACH, and ENFORCE this ruling!..."

"...that means women may wear skirts up to the knees-that is, JUST BELOW the knee-cap, BUT NOT EXPOSING IT WHEN STANDING. Women should wear skirts of sufficient length to cover the knees when sitting...."

"...Since the last article on this subject, the Ruling has been so flagrantly ignored or disobeyed that the time has come TO ENFORCE this Ruling. God's Ministers are instructed to act accordingly.

And THIS INCLUDES THESE TOO TIGHT SKIRTS.

By that, I mean these skirts taken up just below the hips, so they FORM FIT the buttocks, clinging tight behind and under the place where they OUGHT to be SPANKED! I know that nearly all skirts are made that way today. But;

1) you do not have to buy that kind, and

2) if you have them, you can, and MUST, if obedient, let them out at the seams. And if NOT obedient, God's ministers will know you are part of this world, and not of God's Church...."

Things Church of God Ministers Need To Think About

From a reader here:

THINGS COG MINISTERS NEED TO THINK ABOUT

As a person who spent decades in the Worldwide Church of God, who was pastored under all sorts of COG-type ministers from the more easy going to the tyrannical strict dictator – and a person who also for several decades lived in “the world”, as they call it – I've developed some personal observations that I wish to pen down.

1 .You Are Placing Yourself As Directly Responsible for Human Lives.

Every decision that you make impacts a human life, a marriage, or a family. You are placing it on yourself a family's stability every second of your ministry. Every time you give a mandate, you take their entire emotional stability into your hands.

I grew up in a family that was impacted severely by every decision that a minister made. One decision by a minister could easily cause a domino effect that could change the mood, emotions, events – every aspect of the life of a person or a family. It can't be underestimated what this can do to a person's emotional or spiritual stability as a person. Your simple order to “quit a job” can have consequences that can last a decade. Your order to “stop seeing a person” can have consequences that can last a lifetime, or it could be the best thing to happen to a person. The simplest “correction” could be the very thing that could throw a fragile person over the edge. The control you have over a person is directly proportional to who the person believes that you are. And you ministers in the COG have taught them that you act as a direct representative of God and Jesus Christ. They feel, through your teachings, that disobeying you is the same as disobeying God. That's an extremely heavy responsibility to carry for any person, especially if it was even possible to be true. But it's not a matter of concern, in reality, if it is true or not – it's what they believe. So if it's real or if it's a master deception – the impact is the same, because they're acting on that belief. Therefore, the power you have is nearly god-like, and too many COG pastors let that power go to their heads, directly affecting the entire lives of their congregation. You have them write down every word you say in notes. You issue edicts and orders with lectern-pounding authority. Don't underestimate the power you've convinced them you have – and you are responsible for the decisions you have made on every single life that passes through your congregation – good, or bad. Every moment of depression, every moment of tears, every moment of inner hate, worry, and fear. You've put yourself in a huge position that I would be terrified every second of every day to be in. You've put yourself between a person and God. Too many COG ministers take that with a grain of salt, consumed and drunk with the power and control they've convinced the congregation they have.

2. Most of You are Drunk with Power and Control.

Instead of being a representative of the love of Jesus Christ, too many of you are drunk with the power and the control that you have with people. What's important to you is not so much what happens in the lives of the people you pastor, but how well they listen and obey YOU. It's not so much the impact of what happens in their lives that's the issue – it's how much they listen to what you have to say and do it. Your concern is “who's in charge”, not what your decisions do to people. Your concern is “government”, and sheriff-like authority. Your concern is if they are obedient or disobedient, not what it does to their lives, their families, their everything.

3. These people pay your bills.

How many times do you think about the fact that you are directly supported by your congregation? Putting aside your constant commands to tithe you say are biblical, do you ever take time to consider the fact they these are the people who put food on your table? Who pays your bills? Who pays for the clothes on your children's back, or the car your drive? Does it ever click to you just how much they sacrifice so you can live in the house you live in, or enjoy the life that you have? Do you ever think about the laborer in your congregation who works 12 hours a day in back-breaking work so you can live a posh live as a church pastor? Do you ever think about the plumber or the electrician in their skill? These people pay for you to live the life you have, and yet most of you are more concerned about how much they obey your every word about even their jobs or their life yet you forget if they all decided to get up and walk out, you'd be in a creek without a paddle.

4. You've put yourself in a place of high judgement.

I don't think most of you in COG minister positions take seriously the place you are in. Everything you do in the name of Jesus Christ in the lives of your congregation is being recorded – not just in a legal sense – but in the emotions, the lives, the results, the decisions, the mindset, and the spiritual well-being of every man, women, child, and baby in the congregation. Every time you yell and pound on the lectern, scaring a little baby, to every time you throw someone out your doors for something trivial that causes a break-up of a family or a fight when they get home. To the teenager who is depressed because you don't “get it”. To the dating couple you order to break up. To the chastisement that you give them that causes discouragement, despair, sadness, feelings of failure, loss of confidence – you've set yourself in a place of watching that any person should take with the highest level of humility. Sadly, most are so drunk with the power they yield with rods of iron that the impact they have on lives, and the judgement they bring on themselves is blinded by their love of power and control. How many of your people have you turned from God and Jesus Christ by your ego, your pride, your hubris, and your love of power and control? How many of your people are gone to this day because of the decisions you've made? Have you even tried to bring them back? What would Jesus do? Does it concern you about the place of high judgement you're in, and the impact of human lives that is in your hands every single day?

5. Have you ever put yourself in their shoes before?

Many of you just don't understand what your congregation goes through every day. Many of you came right out of Ambassador College decades ago, and have lived quite the nice life. Maybe you were a Young Ambassador, met your Young Ambassador wife right there in the college, got married, went right to the field, and have lived a life of relative luxury and ease as a pastor, with everyone admiring and looking up to you your whole life. Maybe you just went straight into the field, and never had a real hardship. You've always had everything taken care of – your job, your car, your expenses. You've lived a relatively easy life. But do you, or can you say, that you truly understand the lifelong pressures of the ordinary person in your congregation?

Have you ever woken up worried and scared that your electricity might be shut off because they couldn't afford to pay the bill? Have you ever worked 12 hours a day, worried that one mistake could get you fired? Have you ever not had food on the table, where even buying a 2-liter of soda is a luxury? Have you ever been worried that you would be made fun of going to church because you just don't have the money to buy the clothes that are required of you? Do you understand the pressures and the tension that one of your teens is under? Do you understand what it is like to live in a chronic, lifelong medical condition with constant pain or immobility? 

Have YOU, as a COG pastor, ever looked at a fellow minister, not with admiration, but with fear? That one false thing you say could get you kicked out of the only church you have ever known? Or that one bad thing you do could, in your mind, cost you your very eternal salvation forever and ever? Have you, as a COG pastor, ever understood the pain that is felt when you are wrongly accused – and your pastor will not even listen to you over the word of someone else? Have YOU, as a COG pastor, ever even experienced a tenth of the things one of your members have? Or do you, as a COG pastor, simply brush off their very real concerns and fears and issues as just signs of weakness, or an attitude problem?

Have YOU, as a COG pastor, ever tried to “get rid” of someone because they aren't meeting what you want them to become? Have YOU, as a COG pastor, ever ignored a certain type of person, or treated them like dirt under your feet, because they are different? Or because you just know they aren't paying half or all of their tithe? Have you EVER put yourself in their shoes, or ever had even a little bit of understanding of their everyday issues? Or do you live in a bubble of ignorance because of the easy life that the Church has given you from day one – and just don't get what “their problem is”?

Have YOU, as a COG pastor, ever been so consumed with pride about who you are, that it concerns you? Have you ever walked up to the podium and thought “Oh, look at me, I'm a PASTOR, and I'm walking up to the podium, I'm so blessed...”? Have you ever thought to yourself how good you sound in the PA system when you speak, and hear your own voice? Have you ever yelled in the PA just to hear the power you have over people? Do you ever sit in your chair of power in your home office, with arrogance and cockiness about who you are? Do you ever get enraged when someone doesn't show you the respect you think you deserve, not realizing how hurt that the person might be over something they've never been able to tell you before, because they are afraid you'll kick them out?

Do YOU, as a COG pastor, even care if you hear rumors from your congregation that you might be prideful, arrogant, conceited, stubborn, cold, calloused, power-hungry, or even abusive? Or you dismiss those rumors as simply bitter, angry people who have attitude problems and don't have the proper attitude toward government? Are you more protective over your power than you are over their concerns? Is your love of your paycheck of more concern than their impressions of who you are, and the way they think and feel about you? Does it even concern you that they feel bound to go to your church, not because of any type of spiritual nurturing and food they get from you, but simply because they have to because they feel it's the only way they have to worship God, but inwardly know that you are thought of as corrupt, hard, and even maybe anti-Christ? Does that even matter to you? It should.

You are a pastor. You are occupying a place between them and God. Your congregations look to you on a level that is far higher than any pastor of a mainstream church normally has. They look at you as their intermediary between them and God. And it is no secret that many in the COG's right now, at this moment, are frustrated, discouraged, depressed, disheartened, sad, and in despair because they are not being spiritually nurtured or fed in their congregations. They can see your power-hungry, dictatorial, out-of-touch ways. Yet they feel if they say anything at all, they'll be summarily dismissed, or thrown to the curb because you do not understand them, nor do you listen to them. You are a pastor. Yet most of you don't act like it. You sit there, collect your paychecks, without regard of the immensity of your position or of your job. You are supposed to represent Jesus Christ. Most of you do not.

I'm speaking out for those who can't. I don't have those concerns they have – my security is in Christ, not in any man. You will likely dismiss everything I have said here. That's your prerogative. But you cannot ever say you have not been told. It's being told right here. Stop the corruption. Stop the hubris. Stop the pride. Stop the attitudes. Stop the arrogance. Stop the lack of compassion. Start acting like the role you play – start acting like you know Jesus Christ like you claim you do. Because the way many you act right now makes you look like you are servants of the devil not of God. And that's something that should make you get on your knees, begging for forgiveness.

I can say these things because I don't have to fear your hand of dis-fellowshipment. It's too bad that those frustrated and sad in your churches who endure your heavy hands of spiritual abuse cannot say the same. More than this, I can say these things as a Christian in the spirit of love for those who don't feel they have a voice.

• A Former Member of WCG, who sees what's happening to the minds and hearts of your congregations.