Dave Pack Sends Happy Tammuz 15 Greetings To All

Today is Tammuz 15 and Dave Pack wants to send everyone greetings from his weirdly designed upsidedown HQ building with its hydraulic-looking lifts on the top side of each corner to make the building look larger than it actually is...much like Dave's ministry. I always want to flip his building over so I can walk up the steps.

Anyway...

This is the day that Dave says the crap hits the fan with the beginning of the 1335 days.

In Jewish tradition, this day pictures five events relevant to Jewish history, one of which is the destruction of the temple.

Since Dave has set himself up as the one true end-time divine leader with his campus as so significant that Jesus will return to walk its hallowed grounds, and since Dave and all COG leaders claim the Bible was written for the end times, could this be the beginning of the destruction of the Wadsworth campus and Dave's empire? Is Dave's campus a latter-day symbol of the Temple? Just thinking like Dave does...

We can all be guaranteed that on Tammuz 16 not one damn thing will have happened to Dave, his campus, his church, and to his followers, other than experiencing yet another day of public humiliation. More excuses will surely hit the fan and be blown out into the universe for all to hear.

Never in the history of the Church of God movement have we seen such imbecilic predictions as we have been witnessing from our latest crop of self-appointed prophets. Every single one of them has been proven over and over to be liars. If they actually believed the Bible as they claim to and if members did the same, all of these guys should resign, shut down their churches, and members should walk out the door and never give another dime to them.

What the Bible says about all Church of God prophets

Deuteronomy 18:20
20 But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death.” 

Ezekiel 13:9

9 My hand will be against the prophets who see false visions and utter lying divinations. They will not belong to the council of my people or be listed in the records of Israel, nor will they enter the land of Israel. Then you will know that I am the Sovereign LORD. 

Jeremiah 14:14
14 Then the LORD said to me, “The prophets are prophesying lies in my name. I have not sent them or appointed them or spoken to them. They are prophesying to you false visions, divinations, idolatries and the delusions of their own minds. 

Jeremiah 23:16

16 This is what the LORD Almighty says: “Do not listen to what the prophets are prophesying to you; they fill you with false hopes. They speak visions from their own minds, not from the mouth of the LORD. 

Luke 6:26
26 Woe to you when everyone speaks well of you, for that is how their ancestors treated the false prophets. 

Matthew 24:24
24 For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.

Matthew 16:11-12

11 How is it you don’t understand that I was not talking to you about bread? But be on your guard against the yeast of the Pharisees and Sadducees.”
12 Then they understood that he was not telling them to guard against the yeast used in bread, but against the teaching of the Pharisees and Sadducees. 

II Timothy 4:3-4

3 For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths. 

Acts 20:28-30

28 Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood.
29 I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock.
30 Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. 

II Peter 3:14-18

14 So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to be found spotless, blameless and at peace with him.
15 Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him.
16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.
17 Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of the lawless and fall from your secure position.
18 But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and forever! Amen. 

John 4:1-6
1 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
2 This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God,
3 but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.
4 You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world.
5 They are from the world and therefore speak from the viewpoint of the world, and the world listens to them.
6 We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us; but whoever is not from God does not listen to us. This is how we recognize the Spirit of truth and the spirit of falsehood. 

Worldwide The Unchosen Church: Listen now to never-before-heard tapes with World Chess Champion and WCG church member Bobby Fischer!

 

Bobby Fischer was the Muhammad Ali of chess. He became the youngest person to ever win the US chess championship at the age of 14 and the only American-born player to ever win the World Chess Championship. But after defeating the Soviet Boris Spassky in 1972, Bobby Fischer never played another professional match for over thirty years. Instead, he became a recluse, preferring privacy over prize money. Not much is known about Bobby’s life after his 1972 win, but this episode premieres newly discovered tapes of Fischer, discussing his time in the Worldwide Church of God – the doomsday apocalyptic cult this series is devoted to.

In these tapes, which were made in Dec 1976 and Jan 1977, Bobby discusses his views on god, sex, and chess and, especially, how he came to resent Herbert W. Armstrong and his son Garner Ted, the church’s leaders. These tapes provide a riveting snapshot of Bobby’s mental state during the time when he had essentially disappeared from public view and has great crossover appeal between those interested in cults and those interested in chess. The original tapes were about 5 hours long, and the best highlights are featured in this 30+ minute episode, which also features commentary from David Edmonds, co-author of Bobby Fischer Goes to War.

I would like to extend a special thank you to David Edmonds, Bill Hughes, and Dixon Cartwright for their commentary in this episode, and to Hughes and Margaret and Len Zola for speaking to me on background about these tapes.

If you would like to read the Ambassador Report interview with Bobby that is mentioned in this episode online, you can check it out here: Ambassador report: Bobby Fischer

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Tiny Little Prophet Is Tired Of Seductive Women!!!!!!

 

From the one and only Native American Germanic Gentile, who has been doubly blessed and almost arrested, the greatest prophet to ever live and current leader of the best COG to ever exist since the first century, is letting his mind be disturbed by women who walk seductively.

Women today often dress skimpily, provocatively, and walk SEDUCTIVELY (Isaiah 3:16) — deliberately inciting sexual lust in the male mind. Clean social life is thereby undermined at just about every turn. Even a lot of our music and dances today are SUGGESTIVE of sex. Finally, all too often one or the other mate succumbs to these pressures of the world and actually COMMITS adultery.

 

 

Dave Pack: Is A Wellness Check Needed?

 

We have been watching lately as Dave Pack has set endless dates which have all failed to come to pass and now watch as he continues to claim he is Elijah the prophet.

In the fantasyland of the Church of God movement, we have seen scores of men and a couple of women down through the decades that have set themselves up as Elijahs and issued dire warnings to the church. Even today in 2022 we have at least five other Elijahs running around spewing their contemptible nonsense: Bob Thiel, Gerald Flurry, Ron Weinland, Alton Billingsly, and Wade Cox. Dave is not new to the list as he was already declaring this in 2015 and earlier, however, he has been way more vocal recently as he has been setting specific dates under that mantle.

The ExRCG website by Marc Cebrian has a new post up about a recent incident with Dave Pack as he was speaking to his dwindling faithful at his compound in Wadsworth, Ohio regarding his Elijahship and things go downhill rather fast.

One has to assume that he is under extreme pressure considering the rapid-fire failures are stacking higher each day.

Marc reports:

We are on the cusp of the 15th of Tammuz, which begins tonight at sundown. This “make or break” moment is of paramount importance to David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God. 

 

You and I know what will happen during those 24-hours. Wednesday will transform into Thursday. And that is all. But David C. Pack does not know that yet. 

 

There is either a lot of excitement or a lot of worry over at Headquarters today.

For me, I find it hard to believe that there can be much excitement left for RCG members who have set through these endless pronouncements and then sat there in their homes as Jesus failed to return.  

Marc then goes on to report this:

During Part 381 given on the Sabbath of July 9, 2022, there was a very uncomfortable moment which occurred at the 56-minute point. All humor aside, watch it unfold. 

 

I was shocked that this was distributed to the entire church because during my tenure in the Media Production Services Department, it would have not gone out. Okay, maybe. I would have pushed HARD for this one edit. Granted, at that time messages were actually edited and not rushed out “as delivered” which has both pluses and minuses. This was a big minus. 

 

It is obvious those additional four hours of work are not as important any more. Hence, we get a moment like we just saw. 

 

Oh the things we have cut out over the years…wow. But this is by the far the worst I have ever seen. It was a next-level moment that should never have left the room. 

 

But they did release it and here we are.

How many other moments like this happen in the office only a few see? 

 

It could just be that David C. Pack did not get enough sleep the night before. Or he did not drink enough water. Or maybe it is post-COVID “brain fog,” which many people experience.

The ministry in Wadsworth has to be asking themselves what is wrong with Dave. Deep down many of them know that Dave is wrong, yet they continue to stroke his back and continue to crowd around him clapping like happy seals.

Marc makes then makes this comment:

The stress and pressure he must feel day to day is tremendous. Each time he finds the answer in the Bible about when the Kingdom of God is going to arrive, he is later met with failure. Then, he has to go back to the drawing board to scour the Bible and find another answer to show how he was “correct about the picture but just got the timing wrong.” 

 

He truly believes God has given him this assignment and that he is a real apostle. The weight on his shoulders grows as the years wear on while the frantic searching-and-explaining cycle never ends.

It never ends. It will never end. He just does not know that yet. 

 

“I found it. No I didn’t. I found it. No I didn’t. I found it. No I didn’t.”

For decades now the COG movement has watched many Elijah's come and go, telling one enormous lie after another. Even today in 2022 they continue this foolishness, never learning from the past mistakes of previous Elijahs. These guys all get rather pissy that no one heeds their warnings. How can we? We have spent over 8 decades watching these fools blatantly lie and deceive the brethren.  Like the previous Elijahs who are now dead, the remnant that are left in the COG in 10-20 years will see the present-day Elijahs also dead with nothing they predicted coming to pass.

All of these men, including today's batch, have serious mental health problems. Sadly these narcissistic and delusional men have not only done great mental and spiritual harm to their followers, but they may also end up causing great physical harm too. These men all need wellness checks!

Read the complete post by Marc Cebrian here:  RCG Wellness Check

Church of God International: Competing Feast Sites?

Hat tip to a CGI source:

If one thought the current issues going on in the Church of God International were getting absurd, with Bill Watson turning church services and his writings into a religious NewsMax, wait till you read about the Feast of Tabernacles! Ghastly days, Loma!

Bill Watson and his Medina Ohio CGI are holding their own Feast of Tabernacles just 24 minutes from the St Pete/Tampa Feast site of the CGI.

Bill Watson's NewsMax Feast site

This year the CGI will be sponsoring for its second year, the Feast of Tabernacles in Clearwater, Florida. The Feast site will be at the "ocean front” Duval Ballroom, located at the Holiday Inn & Suites, Clearwater Beach. The address is, 521 Gulfview Blvd, Clearwater Beach––right on the ocean!!

Bill Watson
Feast Co-ordinator

Imagine spending a Feast where you thought you were going to hear sermons about a wonderful world to come where humanity and nature are in communion with God and instead are subjected to 8 days of endless political rants masquerading as sermons. What a nightmare!

I wonder how many will then take the trip down the road to the other CGI Feast site in St Pete/Tampa?

St Pete/Tampa Feast site

Who in their right mind at CGI HQ thought this was a good idea? The COG movement is already in tatters with different factions holding services in the same cities, and sometimes the same building, and yet here we are with two different factions within the same church organization holding separate Feast sites!