Saturday, May 18, 2013

Dave Pack: Lie # 3,999: Haggai Is A Coded Book About Me ME ME ME MEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Dave is desperately seeking to  make himself out to be the person described in Haggai.  HWA was Zerubbabel and Davey is a jackass Joshua.  In order to do that Dave has to make you believe that the Bible is a coded book that has only been revealed to him.  Dave has seen the light and its all about him.

Next notice again (from Part Two) that Haggai 1:15 describes this event as happening “in the second year of Darius the king.” For those who believe these dates pertain to the Persian King Darius (who lived over 2,500 years ago), remember the modern Zerubbabel is also described as the “son of Shealtiel” and Joshua as the “son of Josedech.” The modern types of these two men are obviously NOT sons of these two fathers of long ago, yet this is what the Bible says. The Bible is speaking in code about what are two modern leaders. Mr. Armstrong certainly knew that the ancient Zerubbabel having been born to a man named Shealtiel had nothing to do with the prophetic fulfillment of this role. The same would be true of whoever is the modern Joshua regarding the irrelevancy of the ancient figure Josedech.

Similarly, the description of the YEAR of fulfillment must also be in code. If God specified the exact year He had in mind, the entire world would know when the prophecy would be fulfilled. Get this! Now think. God does not name in the Bible (or need to) the modern Elijah of Malachi 4:5-6 and Matthew 17:11 because His Spirit will guide those who are looking to Him to see who fulfilled this role. Fruits, as well as who fit the profile, reveal that man’s identity (Herbert W. Armstrong). Similarly, to believe the prophecy is fulfilled during the reign of Darius would mean Haggai is an historical account, and not PROPHETIC. The thoughtful reader will understand this “message in code” and absorb it into his thinking in readiness for what God will do.


Douglas Becker said...

Matthew 17:12 shows Elijah to come was John the Baptist. Jesus himself said that he had already come.

Check the commentaries.

And if you want to know more about Davey Pack, you can reserve your copy of the DSM-5 coming out at the end of the month from

Michael said...

Dave Pack wrote: "Similarly, to believe the prophecy is fulfilled during the reign of Darius would mean Haggai is an historical account, and not PROPHETIC."

No kidding, eh? I dunno, the fact that it is written in past tense almost makes one think it is historical too :-)
I guess you have to be either brainwashed, or desperate, to somehow interpret past tense accounts as prophetic.

I think we missed one zinger from last week: Pack said “The hands of Zerubbabel have laid the foundation of this House; his hands shall also finish it [the foundation]."

Hey, aren't we beyond a 3rd grade reading level? If Dude A laid the foundation, he obviously finished the foundation. His forced interpretation notwithstanding, this verse clearly means "his hands shall also finish [the House]". Now in Dave's World, this would mean HWA should have finished the "house", which he didn't of course. Again, desperate...