Tuesday, June 17, 2014

Bob Thiel On Why "Tramp Stamps" Are More Theologically Important Than Caring For Your Neighbor

Bob Thiel has always considered himself the most educated person in the Churches of God.  He feels he has a better grasp on theology, prophecy, the Mayans, the Bible than anyone else in the church, particularly when it comes to Rod Meredith.

Because of this immense treasure house of knowledge that he has, Thiel feels he has to weigh in on every little jot and tittle possible.

He is back again today complaining about tattoo's. According to Thiel everyone that has a tattoo is a worshiper of Bes.

Bes (Bisu, Aha) was an ancient Egyptian dwarf god. He was a complex being who was both a deity and a demonic fighter. He was a god of war, yet he was also a patron of childbirth and the home, and was associated with sexuality, humour, music and dancing. Although he began as a protector of the pharaoh, he became very popular with every day Egyptian people because he protected women and children above all others. He had no temples and there were no priests ordained in his name. However, he was one of the most popular gods of ancient Egypt and was often depicted on household items such as furniture, mirrors and cosmetics containers and applicators as well as magical wands and knives. It is also thought that sacred prostitutes may have had a tattoo of Bes placed near their pubic area in order to prevent venereal diseases…(Gods of Ancient Egypt: Bes. Copyright J Hill 2010. http://ancientegyptonline.co.uk/bes.html)
Thus, tattoos provided a religious connection with this Egyptian deity. Throughout the Bible, God’s people are warned to come out of Egypt and not have images of heathen gods (e.g. Exodus 20:1-6). Since Bes was supposed to be a protector and fighter against demons, this may well be why prostitutes had tattoos–apparently some were mistakenly led to believe that the tattoo would protect them from sexually-transmitted diseases and other problems. God did not want His people to follow such practices.

In case you did not get the hint above, Thiel says that women who get tattoo's and tramp stamps are promiscuous whores.

Lower-back tattoos are also perceived as an indication of promiscuity by some, and so that is likely how come the term “tramp stamp” is sometimes used to describe them (for more details you can also watch the Bible News Prophecy video Should Christians Get a Tattoo?). When one considers that the tattoo is not in a place that the woman getting it can see without mirrors or some other aid, this is also consistent with the view it is there to be seen by someone looking at her nude/nearly nude body (or fairly low cut slacks while wearing a short top/blouse).
 28 You shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor tattoo any marks on you: I am the Lord. 29 ‘Do not prostitute your daughter, to cause her to be a harlot, lest the land fall into harlotry, and the land become full of wickedness. (Leviticus 19:28-29)
The fact that the admonition against prostitution comes right after the admonition to not have tattoos reminds me of the view that certain tattoos are signs of a tramp, hence the modern term “tramp stamp.”
Thiel spends more time worrying about useless things that have no connection with ones standing with God than he does in carrying for the homeless in his community, the starving and hurting in the world, or speaking out for the Christians being murdered in Iraq.  Sine no one outside the CCOG is a true Christian they do not need to be worried about in this life time.  God will punish them or fix them some time in the future.

Bob forgets that God's most important apostle to ever live had a son with tattoo's and promoted him to lofty positions.  Apparently GTA bowed down regularly to Bes.  That was the reason the secret room was built up in the ceiling of the Auditorium so that the enlightened ones could go there and worship Bes.the

While it is a fact that GTA was not a Bes worshiper he certainly fit the whore monger description!


Anonymous said...

Tattoos make me wanna puke.

Anonymous said...

In the passage, by Bitter, provided here, we have a huge jump -- from his quoted source, suddenly next sentence to his proclaiming that the Bible backs up what HE is saying about the subject (with a token Scripture reference thrown in).

Then, I notice, he uses wording like "likely" and "consistent with the view," which I would take to mean that Bob is saying that THIS IS WHAT HE THINKS, SO . . . TRUTH! And "truth" worth time considering, mulling over, meditating on, because HE is presenting it.


Anonymous said...

And if you got a tat of Jesus on your lower back, that would be the worst idolatry of all...

The statutes and ordinances? Hmm. Gimme some time to weigh the pros and cons...

(The Alternative Culture Translation)
Deuteronomy 11
:18 Therefore shall ye lay up these my words in your heart and in your soul, and write them for a sign upon your lower back, that they may be as hindlets between thine ass cheeks.
:19 And ye shall teach your children to do likewise, speaking of these words when thou sittest upon them in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.
:20 And thou shalt write them upon the door posts of thine house, and upon thy gates

old EXPCG hag said...

Seems Bob Thiel has this obsession with prostitutes, whores, sluts, etc. Seems to run in the Herbert W. Armstrong family legacy.

You never know what sicko...(Bob Thiel perhaps?),ends up being one of the serial killers detectives are looking for.

Anonymous said...

Not that it matters to me either way, but If Bobby wants to think of me as a Bes follower, I guess I'd rather be associated with a dwarf known for humor, music, and protecting women and children than the moody vindictive pill of a god that Thiel drones on about.

Redfox712 said...

How does he know what a "tramp stamp" is? Most likely he read about it on the internet. But how? Why? It seems odd to me.

I have never heard of tramp stamps outside of Thiel's inane, legalistic rants. He is the person I am aware of even talking about these things.

It is so pathetic seeing his black and white thinking mind saying such superficial nonsense.

I am not into tattoos but I would never try to make anyone with a tattoo feel that they have done something wrong in the eyes of God. That's just pathetic.

Anonymous said...

Bitter Bob should rethink this proclamation of his!

If he gets this tramp stamp on himself, he'll get more people to fund his church that's at the rear of the COGs.

RSK said...

Yet the verse IMMEDIATELY BEFORE the one he cites states "Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard."

Um, Bob? Looked in mirror lately?

Byker Bob said...

No, a tramp stamp would be around on the front side, as in the case of a lady I once knew. A tattoo of Elmer Fudd mowing the lawn at the top of the triangle, asking, "Where is that Wascal Wabbit?" Or, in the case of another, tattooed cougar paw prints going up the back side. I've also seen a circular tattoo of ladies re-enacting portions of the Kama Sutra on the lower back of a bisexual lady. Or, an arrow pointing to a certain body part, with instructions reading "For black only."

Bobby Thiel can only pretend to know something about the bad side, the evils of the world. So, it comes off as being fake, or non-genuine. Carly Simon probably had someone like him in mind when she sang "You're So Vain." I bet he probably thinks that now that everyone has gotten his message, all the tat parlors will be closing their doors in reverence.


Anonymous said...

Uh oh!
The evidence indicates that Mr. Thiel's financial situation is in arrears!