Imprisoned Felon Ron Weinland Says That The 6,000 Years of Bondage Women Have Been Under Is Now Lifted Because of His Wife

Ron Weinland obviously has way too much time on his hands as he continues to write the most incredibly stupid articles imaginable.  Perhaps his prison needs to  have him make more license plates in order to keep him busy.

In Ron's latest letter to his rapidly shrinking cult, he expounds on how his church has now crossed over into a spiritual plane while he is in prison.  All of his failed prophecies are now coming true, even his epic failure of 2008 is coming full circle.  It is all happening for the most part because his dingy wife Laura is the greatest Second Witness ever to have walked this earth.  Move over David C Pack, you are a pussy compared to majestic and powerful Laura!

The fulfillment of prophetic events is currently in the process of being brought back full circle to 2008. What did not happen then is now closing in again. This time, it is fully about a far greater fulfillment of the First Trumpet. Although that sound and warning occurred on December 14, 2008, the economic devastation of that blast was only beginning to be made manifest (brought to light) to the world. The destruction of a worldwide economic collapse was “held back” until a “final witness” could be established in God’s Church and in the world’s response to God’s final warnings through His Church.

So who in this entire world heeded that warning the best?  Ron's cult ministers?  David C Pack?  Gerald Flurry, Rod Meredith?  Come on, make a wild guess.......the ONE who heeded that call was the "witness" Laura.

Who listened? Who took warning? Who repented? The answer to that is the witness! Now the world is quickly nearing a second, more profound illumination and realization of the effects of that First Trumpet.

Apparently this past Feast of  Tabernacles was the Best Ever!

Throughout this Feast season, God’s Church had been experiencing this transition on a spiritual plane as most have experienced a unity and closeness that has continued to grow stronger and stronger. It is an experience that is awesome to see and understand. Even though it has not been fully put (fit) together in the minds of everyone, this Feast was never-the-less grasped as deeply meaningful because of the “focus” of the sermons and how God and Christ organized it all. It has been “an important transition” in itself.

Then Ron writes about how his church members understood the messages they heard to be directly from their god.  The people that made these comments don't sound like the brightest bulbs in the store:

God has magnified that He and His Son give the spiritual food that is timely and needed for His Church, as many have observed and commented upon in letters and ministerial reports. I especially like the way one minister stated it when he was describing what God was giving through the new speakers at this year’s Feast: “Everybody was impressed with what the guys were given in the sermons. Naturally, people had sermons that touched them more than others, but everyone knows it was all from God and the guys were just the ‘sound system’ He used.” That is a good perspective for everyone to have – for those who deliver sermons and those who listen.

All of that is just mince meat compared to the mind boggling work that Laura has been doing.  You know, the great work of the Second Witness...the one you hear about and read about in the news...remember her?  Me neither.....

One last area that is a large part of this transition from man’s age to the age of God’s reign which God’s Church is “experiencing” is one that is personally very exciting to me. It has much to do with what God has been leading His Church to “see” and begin living over the past few years. This transition has actually been spearheaded (put into action) and is being lived by my wife, Laura. God has been revealing to us about the lifting of great bondage that has been upon women over the past 6,000 years.

This phase of transition actually began when God revealed that one of the “two witnesses” of this end-time would be a woman – my wife. This indeed has been exciting as it also magnifies the importance of “family” in God’s great plan of Elohim. In Elohim, there is neither male nor female. In the Millennium, women will be esteemed in a far more meaningful, purer, and uplifting manner just as God intends it to be.

 Weinerdude is still upset that the internet immediately broke out in fits of laughter when Ron originally said he wife was Witless Witness #2.  #2 is right, but not the "witness" kind.

Once it was revealed that Laura was one of God’s end-time witnesses, mockers of what God is doing had their laughs and their moment of condemnation. Some responded by ridicule saying “how convenient” this was for me having my wife as the other witness. The truth is that it has indeed been convenient and a great blessing from God that we have been able to share such an experience together within God’s great plan that He is working out.

Thanks to Laura women are being freed from bondage.  Woo Hooo!

Laura and I have always shared in what we have been given by God to serve His people. On all trips, she has done far more counseling and giving of guidance and encouragement to people than I have. She has never been “silent,” but gifted by God to “bring out” people (help them to open up about their battles and struggles in life) and then help them by what she has spoken. Now she is being thrust forward even more due to the added load she must carry, and the Church recognizes more fully how God is using her as she speaks to congregations (not in sermons) and to the ministry about what is happening within God’s Church and what God is doing in our lives. She is doing this in all the locations where she is traveling as we are continuing to serve church areas as always with scheduled visits. In two locations this Feast season, she not only addressed the ministry, but both congregations that had gathered together at these sites.

It is a powerful encouragement to the Church, witnessing how God is working so much more through women. Women are in the process of being freed from great bondage in both the world and in the Church. Laura’s workload is becoming more visible, especially as she is continuing in a worldwide visiting program to help lead and teach the ministry as well as guide and encourage brethren in those areas.

The amazing work Weinerdude is doing in prison, and the world circling work of the second witless witness are so inspiring that everyone in the millennium will be talking about these two.

Philadelphia Church of God "Imperial Academy" Creates Own Text Books Cutting Out All References To Evolution

Those fun folk at Philadelphia Church of God's Imperial Academy (the elementary school for the children of the chosen few) are conveniently taking any critical thinking out of their children's grasp.

Imperial has a teacher who is creating her own text books, conveniently taking out all references to evolution and inserting HWA and Flurry material.  That should be a hoot!

“I started out with the basic framework of open-source material, then took out all the evolution in Biology,” she said. She replaced evolution sections with booklets such as Does God Exist? and What Science Can’t Discover About the Human Mind, and created lesson summary and review questions based on her new custom text, which includes videos and hyperlinks.

To be a critical thinker one needs to understand both sides of the issue.  You can't sit there and debunk evolution without having an understanding of it.  The same applies in the opposite direction. To debunk creationism you need an understanding of the scriptures that are being used as weapons. However, to use outdated booklets by the WCG from the 1980's and earlier as PROOF that evolution is not possible shows how incredibly naive Flurryism is.

Armstrongism has always decided what was true and what they felt members needed to know.  anything beyond that and you were not supposed to be delving into it.  Critical thinking is NOT a Church of God tradition.

The article continues with this:

Winn said she was inspired to create her own textbooks because she had to change the state’s recommended curriculum every year to avoid covering worthless material. By getting rid of evolution instruction in Biology, she freed up time for students to spend the entire second semester dissecting earthworms, mollusks, starfish, crayfish, frogs, fish, turtles and fetal pigs.

The article then ends with this:

This school year, Winn said she plans to refine her textbooks to a higher level that God will be more pleased with. She also wants to get her students excited about science. “A lot of times, they view science as something that’s not going to apply to them because so much is thrown out from their curriculum before [IA],” she said. “I want them to see God in science.” 

Dennis Muses: I like Woofs...

 

Dancing With Woofs

Sometimes It's Just More Fun 

 

 

 

Woofs Unveiled at Last

 

Umm Dave...I don't howl because I lost my position, authority, salary and stuff...

 

 

 

Sometimes I miss my mama...

 

 

 

Sometimes I am being friendly...

 

 

 

Now granted, I can get a little defensive when I feel threatened or unsafe...But I am resilient

 

That's why every dog on the planet, including that living fetus of a  Chihuahua came from ME.

 

Including Chewie the Wookie who lives with ME


 

 

...anyway...do go on

 

 

Dave Pack makes Anal-ogies

 

"Howling Wolves

Recall from Zechariah 11:3 that certain shepherds will “howl” due to all that occurs: “There is a voice of the howling of the shepherds; for their glory is spoiled: a voice of the roaring of young lions; for the pride of Jordan is spoiled.”

First of all a better translation: " Listen to the wail of the shepherds; their rich pastures are destroyed! Listen to the roar of the lions; the lush thicket of the Jordan is ruined!"

CONTEXT: This verse has NOTHING to do with Christian ministers of any sort, much less Dave's view and howling about all the resources "out there" that need to come to him..  Cedars, Pine and Oaks refer to the Kings of Israel and they are the Shepherds and Lions in the context.  The story is about Jews and Judah not ministers thousands of years into the future.  Make all the analogies you want, but the context has nothing to do with howling ministers who didn't wake up in time to follow Dave Pack and now are out of luck.  The exiles from the captivity are returning and finding Jerusalem pretty torn up and it was painful to see for the returnees.

I know this is hard to grasp for some if not most, but those portions of the Book of Zechariah that seem to foreshadow Jesus Gospel story are redacted into the story of Jesus.  The Gospel writers "searched the scriptures" to write the story of Jesus which is why it seems so prophetically accurate.  The 30 pieces of silver story has NOTHING to do with Judas and everything to do with Zechariah. This story is used to tell the story of Judas but takes it all out of context and mixes up throwing money back at the priests with the Potters Field story.  Long story but true.

Dave notes:

 "Again, the lions are probably Israeli political, military and religious leaders who are anguished over having been abandoned and betrayed by their fellow Israelite allies. But who are the shepherds that howl?"

Comment:  The shepherds are also the Kings and leaders and also the literal shepherds who lost their fields to war and the literal lions lost their thickets in Jordan.  They are NOT COG pastors  who should know better and should now follow Dave Pack.  Most of the full time past ministry in the splinters do know Dave Pack and this is the main reason they aren't budging.


"We now know more about why certain “shepherds” are howling. Shepherds obviously references ministers—but what kind?  Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, thanks for playing. Obvious to your analogy but not obvious to the context. These are anguished men (in fact, you will see they are wolves) who were recently over part of God’s flock.  Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, wrong.  There is nothing recent about Zechariah's lament. God's flock in context are the Jews and Judah.  Because of what they have just witnessed—and lost—they are howling in grief. The reference cannot be to worldly ministers. The apostle Paul described false ministers as “grievous wolves” in Acts 20:29. Since shepherds do not howl, this group of men is simply better thought of as “howling wolves.”



Comment:  Correct.  The comment cannot be a reference to "worldly ministers," neither is it a reference to the "Unworldly COG ministry."  The Apostle Paul was considered a "grievous wolf" by the Jewish Christians of the day and recall they threw him out of Ephesus as one who claimed to be an Apostle, "but was not."  For this, Revelation Jesus congratulated the Jewish Christian and Noahide abiding  Church. 

"A fascinating article appeared recently from the BBC (British Broadcasting Corporation) titled “Howling wolves give clue to top dog.” Beyond fascinating, the article details much more about the nature of wolves, particularly when pack leaders are removed or die  (Removing the Pack leader would be awesome and good for the mental health of those still gyrating in their seats at RCG.). Here are excerpts we will read before making conclusions:

“Wolves howl more when a close companion or high-ranking group member leaves [or is killed].”

This can explain why Dave yells so loud at those who disagree with them.  Maybe it's just me but it also doesn't take a psychiatrist to note that the closer you are to someone the more you grieve when they are sick, missing or dead. 



“That’s what scientists found when they analysed how captive wolves reacted when one was taken to the forest for a walk."

 

Sometimes Good Sheep just mess with ya!

 

Captive wolves...great word there. Like Dale Schurter and the next to no one who came to RCG in the last Great Unification Screw Up?

“Known to be social creatures, the work further emphasises the importance of a wolf’s relationships within its pack.

As far as can be told, the relationship of the wolves with "The Pack" seems to be one of submission and compliance.  Cowering and keeping what they really think inside is probably the better course of action in RCG if you wish to keep a car, a home or a paycheck, which are the very things Dave thinks is the ONLY reason ministers won't come over to him.   Those aren't the reasons at all.  Dave being dead wrong, with silly and weird ideas about himself and his place in scripture tend to be what holds them back. 



“Friederike Range from the University of Veterinary Medicine Vienna, Austria, who co-authored the work said the wolves were communicating to each other just how important they were."

Well as the Alpha Wolf in RCG, I can understand that coming from David.  The RCG wolves spend much time communicating to each other just how important they were and are. I mean, come on, "Watcher", "And yes brethren, I am an Apostle", and "HWA was Zerubbabel and I am Joshua the High Priest" isn't exactly bottom of the food chain.

“‘We didn’t know there was some flexibility on how much they howl depending on their relationship. The amount of howling is really defined by the quality of the relationship.’ Dr Range said.

Exactly, that's why those closest to Dave in the past, write the most and expose the darker side of RCG employment and office drama .  They had a sincere and quality relationship with Christ through Dave and it rather blew up in the faces when they saw the real "Behind the Work" shenanigans.

“She told BBC News that the wolves howled differently depending on which one was taken away.”

Well duh...when "mere elders" are taken away, no biggy.  Mere Elders are NOTHING in RCG.  When you lose an Agreer or two the howls get a bit more distinct.  Of course, some Alphas don't give a rats ass about who leaves or why because they can be replaced easily. 


"The research explained that if a lesser-ranking wolf is removed, wolves howl differently. Experts have learned to distinguish these unique differences in the way wolves howl. The article quoted Dr. Simon Townsend, “‘Wolves seem to howl more when higher ranking individuals leave because these individuals play quite important roles in the social lives of wolves.’”

This seems true of all creatures including humans and is hardly a trait of just wolves.  My goldfish grieved and bubbled howls when her buddy fish croaked.   Is some "Higher ranking individual" in RCG about to leave?  Just askin'


"Another interesting element of wolves is that they do not howl when the top wolf is away at a distance. They seem to know the wolf is safe and they are okay. If the wolf is gone, they seem to know the wolf is alive. They only howl when the wolf is gone at a great distance or has been killed. In light of Zechariah 11:8, the meaning becomes obvious.  (obvious to Dave not others...)


I assume this means the relatively few RCG ministers who are stuck away from RCG HQ follow all instructions and agree 100% with Alpha Dave and feel safe and ok with that even though Dave is way over in Wadsworth?  When Dave travels, they are ok with that and will keep the sheep too afraid to move in his absence. 


"Let’s summarize who these howling shepherds are by eliminating who they are not. (1) They are certainly not the faithful shepherds who would rejoice at deliverance and reunification of God’s people, and that they can now serve more of them. Correct: They are the Kings and leaders of Judah in context, which is not a well known concept in the COGs. (2) They cannot be hirelings who the Bible says flee when wolves are present. Correct:  They are the Kings and leaders of Judah in context, which is not a well known concept in the COGs. (3) They cannot be the three top wolves who will have by this time been “cut off.”  Correct:  They are the Kings and leaders of Judah in context, which is not a well known concept in the COGs.  Dave likes that "top wolf concept.  It's not that he hates wolves so much as he hates not being the Alpha Wolf, IMHO.


"Conclusion: They can only be the remaining wolves among the splinters whom God left out of the reunification of His people.  (Ummm...no) Certainly God would not include WOLVES in His Plan for those with His Spirit to come back together. (Oh for Pete's sake. Wolves are part of the ecosystem) These would not hear His voice, and would be howling over the loss of position, authority and salary."  (They probably howl over the strange and weird ideas coming out of Wadsworth).

Ok Dave...we gotta talk.  No real God is going to blame anyone for NOT FOLLOWING YOU.  If push comes to shove, He can forgive them but I doubt this is the problem.  No one wants to work for a dictator who abides no criticism and sets all the rules, policies , doctrines and agenda without actual input.  Input is great if it agrees with your foregone conclusions.  Input is fatal to those who try to warn you and do that "in the multitude of counsel" thing.  You were so so wrong about this past Summer.  Not just a little wrong.  You messed up big time with your boasts and sure fire conclusions. Christ was going to do much but must have been out of town and didn't tell you.  You can erase and edit all you want but YOU WERE VERY VERY WRONG.  And no real man in ministry or not would ever answer your 35 ridiculous scrotum removing "repentance"  and self evisceration essays  that could apply just as much to you as anyone.  Those who do should be ashamed of themselves and realize we don't think much of their leadership potential concerning all things God.

Being left out of your reunification plans is not something a real man would regret and that loss of position, authority and salary is more the kind of thing you fear losing and always have.

Dave then goes on to tell us there will be no new date but is banking on Passover of 2014 which evidently is not really a date of any kind in Dave's mind.  Boy, that's a weird and strange idea if I ever heard one.

In case you missed it...

 "I want to make a statement about...me...now, if I became deceived, I will never tell you what I'm going to tell you now...I am telling you if I go off into strange ideas, misconduct, rebellion, you name it, don't follow me. I want to tell you that now, because if I start doing that I'm gonna try to get you to follow me! I'm gonna come to you and tell you it doesn't apply, it doesn't mean me, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's OK to follow me because ABCD and XY and Z. Do you understand what I'm saying? Listen to me now, when I tell you don't follow me if I go off into weird ideas, or if I get off into other things that are total absolutely unscriptural conduct, because if I do I'm gonna paint it with a different face and try to get you to follow me. Do you understand what I'm saying brethren? Please remember that, because I promise you that if I become deceived, I'll forget it, and I'll want you to forget it...And I hope you'll remember it well enough to quote it right back to me...But I'll tell you what, I'm not going anywhere." (Oh yes you did...)

Anyway, I love Woofs and would dance with them in a minute.  Reputed Pillars so called give Woofs a bad reputation.



 

I'm just sayin'...

Philadelphia Church of God Con's Members To Pay For The PCG's Booking Mistakes During Columbus, Ohio Feast

Exit and Support had this interesting letter up about the sleazy Philadelphia Church of God.:

Feast Site Problems at Columbus, Ohio:

October 15, 2013

Hello ESN, I felt led to write this to you. At the 2013 Feast of Tabernacles in Columbus Ohio it was announced that a lot of hotel rooms reserved by the PCG were unclaimed or unused this year. The PCG has a legal contract with the hotels promising to occupy and rent so many rooms. If that obligation was not met, then PCG HQ would have to pay the difference. They told us that paying this penalty would take away from "doing the Work" and God would be displeased. It was announced before services that HQ ordered Feast attendees to rent out unclaimed rooms with second tithe money so that the PCG would not have to pay that. I suppose people felt shamed into it because people did rent out rooms they did not even need. You know, a lot of PCG members are out of work. No wonder so many could not come this year. Guess they do not put that into thought. --Anonymous

David C Pack Buys A Weed Patch To Expand His Little Work Upon

Checkout the slide show about Dave Pack's Restored Church of God cult compound in Wadsworth Ohio.  The best picture is of God's most important man to ever walk the earth since Jesus, standing in a bunch of weed's cutting a plastic fence. 

Will this be the future home of Dale Schurter's mind-boggling agricultural extravaganza that will embarrass Ohio State University's agricultural program?

Check out the slide show here.