I received the following today from the group
Anonymous. Apparently Thiel is of interest to Julian Assange.
12/28/12 p.m. For the past year or
so I (California Coo-Coo) have wondered if perhaps the Living Church of God had
lost the Philadelphia mantle. To be 100% certain, I have been trying to resolve
many matters with those in Charlotte and telephoned Carolina #1 Coo-Coo every
day this week.
Instead
of speaking with me, a few hours ago I received a factually incorrect letter
from Carolina #1 Coo-Coo.
Based
upon its tone, numerous inaccurate statements, accusations, and his
unwillingness to address the real issues that I wanted to bring up, this letter
is 100% proof (to me at least) that my view that the Living Church of God lost
the Philadelphia mantle in 2011 or 2012. I am saddened by this development and
had hoped to avoid having
to make a variety decisions. But, God’s will is to be done (Matthew 6:10; 1
John 2:17).
About
an hour ago, I signed various notarized documents to declare the start of a new
organization. It is legally to be called the Continuing
Coo-Coo Church of God Overseer and successors, a corporation sole (COO-COOCOG).
Next
week, the corporate documents are to be filed–but legally it now exists as a
real church. The late Herbert W. Armstrong formed a corporate sole in the 1970s and this seemed to be the
best available option for me in California.
We
expect to best represent the true remnant of the Philadelphia era of the
original Church of God that began on Pentecost in Acts 2 (c. 31 A.D.). Beliefs of the COO-COO-COG.
The
following may help show how I could be possibly qualified to do this:
- • The Apostle Paul wrote, “Pursue love, and desire spiritual gifts,
but especially that you may prophesy” (1 Corinthians 14:1). This is something
California Coo-Coo has attempted to do, as well as pray about, for decades.
- • In 1996/1997, the then local GCG airhead figuratively twisted
California Coo-Coo's arm to get him to start the website that is now COGwriter.
In 1998, Carolina #1 Coo-Coo and others with LCG encouraged California Coo-Coo
to expand and continue COGwriter, etc. It later became the most popular member
website of any associated with the COGs and has long functioned as an Coo-Coo
tool. COGwriter, directly, as well as indirectly, has helped bring many to the
COG in general and LCG specifically. Since 1998, the website’s focus has been
to support the Philadelphia remnant and to expound
prophecy. It has produced fruits (Matthew 7:15-16).
- •On January 6, 2007, after hearing about a reference to a Catholic
prophecy about a former Roman Catholic rising up and causing the Church of Rome
problems at the end times, Carolina #1 Coo-Coo told California Coo-Coo, “That
is you.” During this particular visit to Charlotte, Carolina #1 Coo-Coo discussed
both the evangelical and other fruits of California Coo-Coo’s writings.
- • In August 2008, California Coo-Coo told Arkansas Poo-Poo, that if
LCG was not going to deal with certain matters that he felt needed to be
corrected (and that Carolina #1 Coo-Coo had seemingly agreed to correct), that
part of its top leadership (likely Carolina #1 Coo-Coo) was about to be hit
with something bad.
- • In September 2008, Carolina #1 Coo-Coo had his mini-stroke.
Arkansas Poo-Poo seemed to feel that this could have fulfilled California
Coo-Coo’s warning.
- • On October 3, 2008, Carolina #1 Coo-Coo (who was unaware of that
August 2008 warning), told California Coo-Coo, “God may consider you to be a
Coo-Coo.” This came from the Carolina #1 Coo-Coo of the Living Church of God.
- • Later in October 2008, California Coo-Coo tried to counsel with
Dibar Apartian and Dr. Hairspray about this. Dibar Apartian initially strongly
denied Carolina #1 Coo-Coo said this (but of course, as he was not part of it;
he did not hear the conversation). A couple of days later, he calmed down, came
up to California Coo-Coo, and said that he was either “the one” or the “biggest
threat to the church.”
- • In January 2009, Carolina #1 Coo-Coo told California Coo-Coo over
the telephone that if he (Carolina #1 Coo-Coo) was raised to the office of
apostle, he was considering ordaining California Coo-Coo as a Coo-Coo.
- • On February 4, 2009, Carolina #1 Coo-Coo told California Coo-Coo
over the telephone, “You have an in-depth understanding {of prophetic matters}—you
could be a Coo-Coo.”
- • After California Coo-Coo asked him for a reminder announcement
related to a fast, Carolina #1 Coo-Coo sent out a Church Fast Reminder email to
ministry, March 20, 2009, which stated:
Also,
we are told to pray for the Holy Spirit. And God shows us in His Word, “But the
manifestation of the Spirit is given to each one for the profit of all: for to
one is given the word of wisdom through the Spirit, to another the word of
knowledge through the same Spirit, to another faith by the same Spirit, to
another gifts of healings by the same Spirit, to another the working of
miracles, to another prophecy, to another discerning of spirits,
to another different kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues”
(1 Corinthians 12:7-10).
- • Shortly afterwards that fast, perhaps after gaining more wisdom
and prophetic gifts, during the Spring of 2009, California Coo-Coo acquired a
difficult to attain book that he did not know existed previously (not available
in regular bookstores or Amazon) on Byzantine (Greek Orthodox) Catholic
prophecy. While he had been aware that certain old Roman Catholic prophecies
seemed to possibly point to him personally, one or more ancient Byzantine ones,
combined with certain biblical ones, seemed to be too specific to ignore. And
they got him to look more into related biblical prophecies on the subject.
- • In late Spring/early Summer 2009, Carolina #1 Coo-Coo told
California Coo-Coo he was praying for the success of California Coo-Coo’s
prophetic book 2012 and the Rise of the Secret
Sect.
- • In the Summer of 2009, Dibar Apartian told California Coo-Coo, in
quite a positive tone, that Carolina #1
Coo-Coo had been stating in meetings that California Coo-Coo may be a Coo-Coo.
- • Because of Dibar Apartian's statements, later that Summer or
perhaps early Fall, California Coo-Coo asked Carolina #2 Coo-Coo, if he was
part of top LCG level discussions stating that California Coo-Coo may be a
Coo-Coo. He said yes.
- • Around this time California Coo-Coo had an apparently prophetic
dream perhaps reminiscent of Joseph's dreams (Genesis 37:5-11) and Isaiah's
vision to be sent (Isaiah 6:1-8), that somewhat like Peter's vision (Acts
10:17) he did not immediately understand, but like Peter (Acts 11:4-17), it seemingly
became clearer once circumstances in the time since presented themselves and
began to confirm it.
- • To reduce the possibility of misunderstanding the Catholic and
Byzantine predictions, as well as biblical prophecies related to the King of
the North and God's witnesses, California Coo-Coo asked all the HQ Coo-Coos as
well as his then local Coo-Coo (Dr. Hairspray) if they thought that it was
possible that Satan or some of his demons could have seen any of Daniel’s
visions or the revelation that the Apostle John observed.
- • Sometime after he got “possibly” or “perhaps” as an answer, in
2010 California Coo-Coo mentioned to Dibar Apartian that there seemed to be
certain Roman Catholic and Byzantine prophecies, viewed in the light of Bible
prophecy, that pointed to himself personally. Dibar Apartian then instructed
California Coo-Coo to speak to Carolina #1 Coo-Coo. So, he contacted Monica
Cormier who arranged for Carolina #1 Coo-Coo and California Coo-Coo to later
have a private lunch meeting at the Feast of Tabernacles in Panama City.
- • In the late Summer of 2010, California Coo-Coo asked Dibar Apartian
if he still thought California Coo-Coo was “the greatest threat to the church
or 'the one.' “ He said California Coo-Coo was not the threat and said that he
would try to talk to Carolina #1 Coo-Coo about California Coo-Coo’s prophetic situation,
but it is not clear how, or even if, he did before he died later that year. But
what was clear to California Coo-Coo was that Dibar Apartian (God rest his
soul) believed then that God had a top lahdee-dah role for California Coo-Coo.
- • In Panama City in October 2010, Carolina #1 Coo-Coo and California
Coo-Coo met. In that meeting, California Coo-Coo mentioned one or two of the
non-biblical prophecies to Carolina #1 Coo-Coo that seemed to point to
California Coo-Coo—and Carolina #1 Coo-Coo advised caution (basically waiting for
additional confirmation).
- • At the Feast of Tabernacles in Glenwood Springs in a private
meeting related to literature corrections that California Coo-Coo requested,
California Coo-Coo and Carolina #2 Coo-Coo also discussed the idea of
California Coo-Coo being a Coo-Coo and one of the two Primo Coo-Coos (Carolina
#2 Coo-Coo mentioned he had felt that he once thought that he, Carolina #2
Coo-Coo, would be one of the two Primo Coo-Coos). Carolina #2 Coo-Coo stated
that he wanted to see additional confirmation related to California Coo-Coo and
that this should be clearer over time. Carolina #2 Coo-Coo also commented that
he felt his evangelical fruits were comparable to the evangelical fruits of
California Coo-Coo.
- • In November and December 2011, California Coo-Coo counseled with
his local Coo-Coo Dr. Hairspray and Gary Fudd Ehman about these matters.
California Coo-Coo told both of them that he thought that he needed to have
hands laid upon him again in order to validate the view that he might be some
type of a prophet. They both told him that, in their view related to being a
prophet, baptism was scripturally sufficient. While that sounded logical, the
statement from the Apostle Paul to Timothy about getting hands laid upon him (1
Timothy 4:14) gave him personal pause. And that caution led to him pray more about
it. Thus, instead of concluding that he had sufficient anointing, especially
considering the relative enormity of some of the ramifications of this as a
conclusion, he searched the scriptures and concluded that, perhaps like Gideon
(Judges 6:36-40), that he would seek further outside confirmation, and preferably
God would provide that from Charlotte.
- • On the morning of December 15, 2011, upon arriving at the
Charlotte HQ of LCG, California Coo-Coo asked to meet with Gary Fudd Ehman as
he wanted to get anointed for some non-debilitating matters as well as to ask
him to pray that he be granted wisdom for his meetings with the HQ Twinkle Toe
Coo-Coos. But he was not in. So instead, California Coo-Coo asked to meet with
Carolina Foo-Foo-Coo-Coo (with whom he never had any discussions prior about
him possibly being some type of prophet).
- California
Coo-Coo asked Carolina Foo-Foo-Coo-Coo if he would do the anointing and pray
that God would grant him wisdom for the meetings. He agreed. But while laying
hands upon California Coo-Coo, Carolina Foo-Foo-Coo-Coo also happened (it was
not planned nor did California Coo-Coo say anything to encourage this) to ask
God to grant California Coo-Coo a “double-portion” of His Holy Spirit and
anointed him. California Coo-Coo then attended a meeting with the Twinkle Toe
Coo-Coos and he did not then have time to discuss what this might mean with
Carolina Foo-Foo-Coo-Coo.
- • At another meeting with the Twinkle Toe Coo-Coos on December 16,
2011, Carolina #1.2 Coo-Coo prayed, with “Amen” concurrence from Carolina #1
Coo-Coo and Carolina #2 Coo-Coo, that California Coo-Coo would continue to do
the work that God has had him do, etc. He also specifically called California
Coo-Coo's writings/work “an additional bucket of poo-poo.” Hence, there was a
concurrence with the evangelical and prophetic fruits of that work. The
Charlotte Twinkle Toe Coo-Coos again promised to get to certain literature
corrections that California Coo-Coo had brought up repeatedly overthe
years.
- • At this 12/16/11 meeting, other matters related to California
Coo-Coo and prophecy were discussed, including the fact that by then world
events had already aligned with at least 20 predictions in California Coo-Coo’s
book 2012 and the Rise of the Secret
Sect. Additionally the fact that some
of his speculative predictions about Karl Guttenberg and Julia Gillard that had
come to pass since the October 2011 meeting with Carolina #2 Coo-Coo was also
brought up. Since Carolina #2 Coo-Coo asked the most questions related to the
prophetic fruits, he and California Coo-Coo also met privately about it.
- California
Coo-Coo's private comment to Carolina #2 Coo-Coo was that perhaps the Twinkle
Toe Coo-Coos should consider if those accurate speculative predictions are just
coincidental or possibly the fruits of a prophet. Carolina #2 Coo-Coo seemed to
discount that then, and later, despite the biblical admonition to not despise
prophecies (1 Thessalonians 5:20).
- • From sunset 12/16/11 to sunset 12/17/11, the able faithful in LCG
fasted, etc. A passage of scripture that California Coo-Coo read and re-read
then was 1 Timothy 4:14-16 which he felt was more personal than ever then.
- • On Sunday 12/18/11 night at a family wedding reception, without
discussing the matter, California Coo-Coo stared at Carolina Foo-Foo-Coo-Coo
for a few moments, without saying anything and then asked, “Do you have any
idea of what you may have accidently done?” Carolina Foo-Foo-Coo-Coo said, “Yes,
I think so.”
- • The following Monday morning was California Coo-Coo's first
opportunity to speak with Carolina Foo-Foo-Coo-Coo privately for more details
about the anointing. California Coo-Coo asked him if it was his practice to
pray that God grant a double-portion of His Spirit to people that he anoints,
he said, no he had never done that for an individual before. California Coo-Coo
asked him if he had any idea of what he may have been inadvertently led by God
to do, and he said yes. Carolina Foo-Foo-Coo-Coo also said that
the only “double-portion” he recalled from the Bible was when Elisha became the
replacement prophet and ecclesiastical leader for Elijah (2 Kings 2:9)—California
Coo-Coo told him then that this was his recollection as well. Notice it was
Carolina Foo-Foo-Coo-Coo, and not California Coo-Coo, who first stated this as
a conclusion.
- • Later on 12/19/11, California Coo-Coo felt compelled to try to meet
with Carolina #1 Coo-Coo and tell him that it seemed his wife was to be hit
hard with something and to discuss other matters. Because of other meetings he
and California Coo-Coo both had that day, this type of meeting did not happen.
- • A few weeks later (Carolina #1 Coo-Coo’s letter dated 1/12/12),
California Coo-Coo learned that Carolina #1 Coo-Coo's wife was stricken with
stage four cancer. This seemed to confirm his earlier view (cf. Jeremiah
32:6-8).
- • In March 2012, it seemed time to mention the 12/15/11 anointing
and what California Coo-Coo had tried to tell him about his wife to Carolina #1
Coo-Coo and he was able to do so in telephone conversation. Yet, first
California Coo-Coo called Carolina Foo-Foo-Coo-Coo to let him know that someone
may end up talking with him about the anointing. Carolina Foo-Foo-Coo-Coo was
fine with that and also said that he felt that the “double-portion” was related
to “the passing of the mantle.” This gave California Coo-Coo a lot of pause to
consider since that time.
- • On March 23, 2012, Carolina #1 Coo-Coo called California Coo-Coo
and California Coo-Coo mentioned the anointing, some of Carolina
Foo-Foo-Coo-Coo’s comments, and the prediction related to Carolina #1 Coo-Coo's
wife. The biggest concern Carolina #1 Coo-Coo seemed to raise was that the anointing
was from someone below Twinkle Toes or Pooper Scooper level. But biblically, as
he knows, only a member of the eldership is required to anoint one as a prophet
(cf. 1 Timothy 4:14) or apostle (cf.Acts
9:10-17).
- • In April 2012, during normal personal Bible study, California
Coo-Coo was reminded about the time when Jehu dismissed an anointing to become
king by one of God’s servants because he thought the man was some kind of a nut
(2 Kings 9:11). There were apparently higher ranking ecclesiastical authorities
at that time that God did not as directly use. Yet, that did not change the
fact of the ordination, and Jehu became king (and no, this document is not
trying to say that Carolina Foo-Foo-Coo-Coo is some kind of a nut, only that
when he performed the anointing he was a duly ordained Coo-Coo of the Living
Church of God and once hands are laid upon someone, this cannot be undone)—hence
California Coo-Coo concluded that it would be wrong and quite presumptuous of
him to overlook or somehow discount what was done. He personally had been
cautious about whether or not he was possibly some type of an evangelizing
prophet and getting an unexpected anointing suggesting that role from someone
who had no idea that California Coo-Coo was praying about that, or possibly in
that role, indicated that this could not be ignored. This seemed to be God’s
timing and answer. Especially because California Coo-Coo had prayed about this
so much in November and December 2011.
- • On June 3, 2012, California Coo-Coo sent Carolina #1 Coo-Coo a
letter urging him to get involved on various literature and other matters that
he and the other Charlotte Twinkle Toe Coo-Coos had agreed to in the December
2011 meetings (as well as earlier). Carolina #1 Coo-Coo had Carolina #2 Coo-Coo
respond, which he did with a letter dated 6/28/12, but which contained various
improper statements (including improperly condemning California Coo-Coo for
improper presumptuousness), and which did not resolve the matters--Carolina #2
Coo-Coo suggested various officially published errors were unimportant (cf.
Revelation 3:14-19).
- • On June 29, 2012, California Coo-Coo conveyed to Carolina
Foo-Foo-Coo-Coo, Carolina #2 Coo-Coo's written comment in that letter
suggestion that the conclusion as to what happened when he was anointed by
Carolina Foo-Foo-Coo-Coo on 12/15/12 was “presumptuous.” Carolina
Foo-Foo-Coo-Coo found it astounding that Carolina #2 Coo-Coo would have
indicated that California Coo-Coo may have been presumptuous about this.
Carolina Foo-Foo-Coo-Coo felt that California Coo-Coo was exercisingproper
caution and that to ignore what happened would seem to be against the will, and
possibly plan, of God. Carolina Foo-Foo-Coo-Coo also stated to California
Coo-Coo that it is God, and not, men who “appointed these in the church: first
apostles, second prophets“ (1 Corinthians 12:28).
- • On July 14, 2012, California Coo-Coo watched Carolina #2 Coo-Coo's
“Slap My Ass and Call Me Sally” sermon, saw that Protestant commentaries were
often the basis for many statements made, etc. and it made him more strongly
wonder if the mantle had been dropped and passed. Watching that sermon quickly
resulted in changes at the COGwriter.com website and resulted in personal
changes--including privately suspending my membership in LCG (I continued to
cooperate and had hoped thatthey
would properly address matters so that I would decide to reinstate my
membership).
- • Later, on August 1, 2012, California Coo-Coo read a December 1986 Good News article by Leroy Thistle
Snifter who wrote how to tell the differences between a true prophet and an
imposter; and the next week, he found a Q&A titled “How else can we know if a person is a prophet of God?” covered in the September 1965 edition of the Plain Truth and an article on the
laying on of hands in the April-May 1965 Good
News. It seems that according to
them, California Coo-Coo meets the true, not imposter, prophet criteria. Including
having the fruits of a prophet like Jesus discussed (Matthew 7:15-16) (more on
this matter is in an article at COGwriter.com titled How To Determine If Someone is a True Prophet of God).
- • On August 7, 2012, LCG spent money in a seeming attempt to try to
prevent California Coo-Coo from possibly taking certain website steps, while
California Coo-Coo continued to try to assist Charlotte in making various
literature corrections.
- • On August 26, 2012, shortly after agreeing that a variety of
errors that California Coo-Coo brought up needed to be corrected, Carolina #2
Coo-Coo told California Coo-Coo, “We all think that you might be a prophet.” In
order in order to determine who “We all” was, on September 7, 2012, California
CooCoo asked if this was a reference to all three of the LCG Charlotte-based
Twinkle Toe Coo-Coos and Carolina #2 Coo-Coo concurred.
- • Yet, on September 6, 2012, with possible disregard of Matthew
18:15-17 and matters of prophetic authority (1 Corinthians 12:28), Carolina #1
Coo-Coo publically criticized California Coo-Coo without previously discussing
the related matters with him; nor did Carolina #2 Coo-Coo take certain steps related
to promises related to doctrinal matters (Revelation 3:14-19).
- • During the Feast of Tabernacles in October 2012, Honolulu Coo-Coo
made a public statement in a sermon that seemingly contradicted Carolina #2
Coo-Coo’s testimony on August 26 and September 7, 2012 regarding prophets.
- • On October 8, 2012, California Coo-Coo briefly met with Carolina
#1.2 Coo-Coo to try to figure out how to get various matters (Carolina #2
Coo-Coo’s “Slap My Ass and Call Me Sally sermon,” literature errors, and the
final phase of the work) dealt with. California Coo-Coo followed up and over the
next two or so months provided information to Charlotte as he promised Carolina
#1.2 Coo-Coo.
- • On December 14, 2012, California Coo-Coo sent the Charlotte-based
Twinkle Toe Coo-Coos an email, with an attached paper, on the Final Phase of the Work. (this
was the last item to finish those that he promised Carolina #1.2 Coo-Coo on
10/08/12). In the email, California Coo-Coo asked if those in Charlotte would
correct various errors and asked if they wanted to work closer together or
become more distant.
- • On December 15, 2012, California Coo-Coo saw a sermon from
Carolina #2 Coo-Coo titled “Watch and Get Ready,“ in which Carolina #2 Coo-Coo,
after referring to Protestant “commentaries“ declared that those who did not
agree with his “Slap My Ass and Call Me Sally“ position were “blind to reality.“
This resulted in additional changes to some of the pages on COGwriter.com, etc.
- • Throughout the next week or two, California Coo-Coo put together a
variety of items that he wanted to go over with Carolina #1 Coo-Coo concerning
improper statements to the members, literature errors, broken promises, etc. to
give Carolina #1 Coo-Coo a last opportunity to try to explain how LCG could possibly
have not lost the Philadelphia mantle, but the real issues were not dealt with.
- • By December 22, 2012, reported events in the news had aligned with
at least 32 predictions in California Coo-Coo's 2009 book titled 2012 and the Rise of the Secret Sect. Many, many more, not in the book, but in various posts on the
internet, have also been confirmed. And while many (in the book or on the internet)
would be considered common COG beliefs, many were more specific than the COG
has tended to proclaim.
- • After receiving a letter emailed to him from Carolina #1 Coo-Coo
(12/28/12) where he denied making statements that California Coo-Coo had
documented in notes over the past several years, California Coo-Coo informed
the regional LCG Pooper Scooper for the Arroyo Grande, CA area that he would no
longer host a videogroup on behalf of LCG, other than to have a final service
for those who are part of LCG on 12/29/12, as it was now 100% clear to
California Coo-Coo that the Philadelphia mantle was not with LCG.
The
fact is, that unlike the self-appointed leaders with COG-ties (like Ron
Weinland, etc.), California Coo-Coo was told by the Carolina #1 Coo-Coo of the
Living Church of God that God may consider him to be a Coo-Coo, to continue his
evangelical efforts (and was also told to do that by others, including Carolina
#1.2 Coo-Coo), that he (Carolina #1 Coo-Coo) possibly should have anointed
California Coo-Coo to the office of a Coo-Coo. It seems that, perhaps because
Carolina #1 Coo-Coo personally did not anoint California Coo-Coo, God took steps
to get that anointing done by a properly ordained member of the eldership.
While
God did have Ananias (described with the title of “disciple“ in Acts 9:10,
probably a minister-level individual) lay hands upon Paul, no title was
recorded as being given to Paul at that time (Acts 9:17). Yet later, Paul
wanted to make it clear that he was an apostle because Jesus chose him, not any
human organization (Galatians 1:1). Nor did he feel “inferior“ to the more “eminent
apostles“ (2 Corinthians 11:5). Does this not have some parallels to what
happened to California Coo-Coo? No man or group had gotten together to agree to
anoint him with a “double-portion” of God’s Spirit in December 2011, but it did
happen.
Carolina
#2 Coo-Coo and others have stated in the past that Christians should “connect-the-dots”
and that is something that seems to make sense here. As far as “prophetic
fruits” go, California Coo-Coo has asked all the Charlotte Twinkle Toe
Coo-Coos, “How many accurate speculations does it take before it counts?,” without
getting an answer. He has also asked, “If I have ever shown myself to be a
false Coo-Coo, please explain how or why,“ also without getting an answer.
What
humans conclude related to California Coo-Coo's role does not, in one sense,
matter. It is God who appoints true church leaders (Ephesians 4:11) “for the
edifying of the body of Christ” (Ephesians 4:12).
What
really does matter is God's will (John 7:17) and our submission to it (James
4:7). And it has not totally unfolded how He will work all the details out—but
God’s plan will be accomplished.
The
Bible is clear, “God has appointed these in the
church: first apostles, second prophets…” ( 1 Corinthians
12:28) “And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some Twinkle
Toe Coo-Coos, and some pastors and teachers” (Ephesians 4:11).
To
the pure, all things are pure (Titus 1:15).
An
article of possibly related interest may be: How
To Determine If Someone is a True Coo-Coo of God There
are many false Coo-Coos. How can Christians determine who is a true Coo-Coo?
Here is a draft that I hope to finish next week on beliefs: Draft Statement: Beliefs of the COO-COO-COG.
