Stupid Things Armstrongites Write On Yahoo

The Protestant world "stole" from the WWCG the truth about Daniel and Revelation, especially Mr. Armstrong's knowledge about the EU being the 10 nations mentioned.

Even with this "knowledge" they are not part of Gods true church.

I doubt this website is by anyone who is a member in good standing of the Church of God.

If they are a former member, they are way way off track on some important things.

the questions that are being asked is in regards to the authority of God`s Apostle, Mr. Armstrong in regards to D&R. He was under the inspiration and authority of Jesus Christ  in his decisions and to question those decisions is to question Christ Himself!!  It is apparent that the original teachings regarding D&R as well as the day that was being observed in regard to Pentecost were in error and God caused His Apostle to correct them before Mr. Armstrong`s death. There was no one more knowledgeable about the many scriptures than was Mr. Armstrong, and there should be no doubt that with any important decisions that he made regarding doctrine for the Church was after praying for God`s guidance on the matter, realizing that the entire Church would be involved with those decisions!

I will go one step further to state that anyone who sets themselves up to judge God`s Apostle, Mr. Armstrong, is on very serious ground and must *STOP*!!

why do you beat HWA over the head with 1975 in Prophecy? In the first place, everybody wrote about 1975. There was Famine: 1975. We were all supposed to be flying helicopters, walking on moving sidewalks, etc. etc. etc., according to my schoolteachers. 1975 was adopted by the church as a possible date, to their great regret, because for some reason, it was a marker, just like 2012 now is. Over and over, the ministers would give sermons stating 1975, but then they would say, Don't set your heart on the place of safety, and this is not set in stone... A lot of folks left the church because they were certain 1975 was the time to flee, altho it turned out to be the date for something else. :p  

Mr. Armstrong was the end time Elijah.. BUT he was not INFALLIBLE! We follow GOD not man.. HWA was called to do a marvelous work and he did it well.. He gave us truth and God used him to open our eyes to PROVE all thing..We follow him as he followed Christ and this is the whole point...He wasnt perfect, I am not perfect, none of us are but we are to grow in grace and knowledge..Many I believe actaully worship HWA, and follow him totally and with out question. He said "Dont believe me believe the bible and thank God he did because HWA knew he was only a man and capable of error...I believe he did not totally understand all things but gave us the capability to search and he gave us enough about the sabbath to dig in and prove the scripture..He had alot in his head, given by God and he passed it to us but he sinned. Its not a derogatory remark to him at all to say this..but to do away with scripture as those i posted and say they dont exist is dangerous..The sabbath is the only sign that we are HIS people..I pray to God people dont misunderstand what I am saying because I am not suggesting to question everything he taught us but to prove it and I have proven HWA was sent by God to deliver the message of the kingdom of God and to restore truths lost to the world..I did not say anyone would go into tribulation for sabbath breaking and I am not judging anyone.., this could well be the a test for us all to see who will obey God and who will not..Ask yourself about infallibilty, the pope claims he is and the world follows him blindly believing every word he says but HWA knew he was not..think about it

When Santa comes down the chimney singing "Noel, Noel, beware because his mask might fall off, and underneath, there is a roaring lion, which is also spelled leon, noel spelled backwards, Satan, or Santa comes across as a beautiful angel of light, hence the beauty of the beast.

Every year we read about the drunkeness at the xmas parties, we also read in the
newspapers about the fact that xmas and Newyears originates with the old pagan
Roman-Babylonian Saturnalia festivals, also the Festivals of lights of the Germanic Peoples, where they would build great bonfires and seek for the Sungod to return.

Um....what about the drunken orgies at Feast of Tabernacles sites? Sounds pretty pagan to me!  Plus the Feast is a rip off of a pagan harvest Festival......ya know!

Is it a sin to contribute to serving the "least of these" via the Salvation Army kettles?

Questions That We the 99% Sheep Wish To Have Answered By Dave the 1% Pack

Questions That We the 99% Sheep Wish To Have Answered By Dave the 1% Pack

For decades, COG Sheep sat in service after service hearing announcement after announcement about the great breakthroughs, opportunities and projects that the Armstrongs had in mind without accounting for how they would be paid for and by whom.

Those days are over.  

No longer will we just sit quietly and wonder if this is really such a great idea or plan. 

 No longer will we neither nod yes or no as we sit listening to the grand schemes of one man who simply has to use our contributions to achieve his visions and dreams.  

No longer will we pretend to be inspired by God's amazing decisions when we think they might just be the decisions of those who refuse to ask us what to do with our money.

No longer will we believe that once we give our hard earned monies, it is no longer our business what is done with it for or by  God, Christ, Jesus and our small church.

No longer will we be intimidated by your Biblical quotations about keeping our mouths shut and our bank accounts open.  

No longer will we act inspired when we are really skeptical

No longer will we allow you to speak doublespeak about time is short while watching buildings meant to last forever being built at our expense. 

Pack's New Mini-Me Auditorium

Therefore  Dave...we'll call you Mr. Pack when and if we choose, not you, please give us a reasonable answer to the following... 

1.  Knowing that the local Pasadena Community was never all that impressed by the Church and the Church and "the truth" had little effect on them by listening to concerts, why do you think this doesn't work idea will work for out good now?

2.  Please explain how you can pretend to know time is short and yet spend our monies on permanent buildings and only now just start a college that will take years to mean anything to anyone?

3.  Please explain why Herbert Armstrong did, small college in one room, small college in one building,  two dorms, a place to eat, offices and then an auditorium, while you start with a huge Auditorium (for what..just church?), huge office building for a small staff and yourself,  and then a class room for students.   Why are you doing it backwards to your hero HWA?

4.  EXACTLY how much is this going to cost US and over what period of time?

5.  EXACTLY how many baptized members do we actually have in our amazing Church?  It embarrassing to belong to a small church and not be able to answer the questions as to how many of us there really are.

6. Why are so many family members on the Church payroll.  Is this a family venture as seen in both the Armstrongs and Tkaches?   Do you remember the drama and mistake that all seemed to be?

7.  When you die, do we ministers that are alive and remain, have a retirement?

8.  Are we to assume your seriously under trained and untrained family members will lead us all into the kingdom?  Can we decide we'd rather have someone else?

9.  If we stipulate our tithes and offerings are NOT to be used for Time is Short Construction, can we stay in the church?

10. Why do you always tease us with, "....but I can't tell you that now," when what you are up to might be something we'd prefer not to fund or participate in?   Are you like Paul who told us he went to the The Third Heaven and heard stuff no man, but him of course, could hear or see or tell about, so don't ask?   If we think that is a bit of the lame "I know something you don't know," stuff, will you get mad at us/

11. If we snicker when you sermonize about where we are in prophecy and the time left kinda matches the time you might have left, will we have to be the ones that have to bring a watermelon to the picnic?

12. Can we sit in on the meetings you will be having about how this is all going to be paid for with our money?  While we realize "not many wise men now are called," some are,  and may wish to know exactly what you alone are deciding for us and give some input into the wisdom or lack thereof in these plans?

13. Will you shake your jowls at us like HWA did when he got really angry?  Do you have jowls yet?  Can a COG Apostle even be an Apostle without jowls?

14. In time will we have to refer to you as DCP or Mr. DCP as we did to HWA or Mr. HWA?   You just don't have the same ring to your initials.  Sounds more like an illegal drug than an Apostle.  You know like, "Oh man, I'm flyin' high on DCP."

15. Could you consider noting we have "the largest online copied theological website on the Internet?"

16. Once we become a household word throughout all the world of Christianity and all things Pagan, could you put the name "Jesus" in a sermon once in awhile?

17. Would you consider using the New Testament at times in your sermons, studies and to inform us all as to where we are in Bible History?

18. Could you show us some credentials as to where you learned the background, history, language, culture, politic , and origins of the Bible, besides from you know where?

19. Would you get a chuckle out of it all if once in awhile I came up to you and said, "that was the most dumb ass sermon I have ever heard.  I don't think I have heard a sermon quite like that before, and hope to never hear one again"?  

20. Could you stop saying "it's not about the numbers," when we all know it exactly is all about the numbers?

21. Have you ever had a personality profile done and would you share it with us?  Would you consider some mental health testing so we can relax a bit at times when you say some of the things you say about yourself in sermons and such?  Could you give just one sermon without the pronoun "I"?   Just askin....

Well, that should be enough for now.  We anxiously await your answers.  What?  What do you mean I'm disfellowshipped!!!   Hey, hey...I was just .....doh!   

Dennis C. Diehl
DenniscDiehl@aol.com

Dave Pack Releases Plans For New World HQ and Auditorium

I thought I had seen everything that an Armstrongite cult could come up with to imitate Herbert Armstrong and his Pasadena campus, but I guess I haven't until now.  Many had always thought that Pack was not happy that Six Pack Flurry preempted him by building a mini-Ambassador Auditorium in the middle of Oklahoma.  The HWA worship in the Edmond campus is appalling, but even Six Pack Flurry's Edmond abomination pales in comparison to this!

Is this not disgusting  or what!!!!!!!!!!!!!  With all the trinkets from the Ambassador now in Edmond, what is Packman going to have on display?  Herbert's underwear?  His gold rimmed glasses or champagne flutes?

The latest Real Truth has this article in it.

The publisher of The Real Truth magazine, The Restored Church of God (RCG), is pleased to announce plans for its magnificent World Headquarters, to be built in Wadsworth, Ohio, USA.

This state-of-the-art complex will echo the magnificence of the Worldwide Church of God’s Pasadena, California, campus (which produced The Plain Truth, the predecessor of this magazine), and will benefit both the Church and the local community. It will provide a beautiful setting for RCG’s rapidly expanding administrative and publishing operations, as well as serve as a conference site and a location to receive visiting dignitaries.
With significant site preparation already underway, construction of six buildings is to begin in early April 2012.
The campus will include:
• An elegant hall of administration.
• A stunning auditorium in the style of the original Ambassador Auditorium.

Read the rest of the articled here:  Coming Soon: World Headquarters Complex

The following blabber is from his main site. This guy has the biggest ego of any cultists I have seen.  Even God Almighty himself who resides in Edmond and Charlotte pales with this:

“After returning to Headquarters, we all ‘hit the ground running’ with the many projects that are underway regarding an entire new Headquarters complex of many buildings (beginning in the spring), the dramatic expansion of Ambassador Center attendance, the imminent arrival of The World to Come program on nationwide television, and all the other inspiring developments in the Work that members in North America heard about in my Update Message at the Feast…Events are developing so rapidly—and in so many different directions at the same time—that regular updates may need to be presented just so the Church can move together—can stay on the same page—regarding these sudden large expansions of the Work.”
“Try to imagine both the number and staggering size of items that have suddenly come to be on our plate just since late summer. We think of them here as 12 ‘trains’ running on parallel tracks that must all move together. (There are two more ‘trains’—both potentially very big!!—that I cannot yet discuss.) Seven separate project management categories (trains) are tied to building the upcoming campus, now to include even more buildings that are all currently scheduled to be built at the same time. We might ask: Who else would even attempt to ‘bite off’ such a vast project in this way? Of course, the sole answer might be the Church of God, which understands that there is not enough time to do it any other way. Long gone are the days when we could take decades in the way that Mr. Armstrong could.”

“We are working with (1) builders, (2) banks, (3) an architectural firm, (4) an engineering firm and (5) the city of Wadsworth all at the same time. (Just think of the meetings, recognizing that we are now working with a number of banks.) A sixth element is that there is an enormous Public Communications factor within this particular project. First think of the local community, and then the general region of communities around us—which will see such a massive project occurring in economic ‘down times’ (250,000 people pass the worksite every day). Next is the world as a whole that will monitor this extraordinary development carefully announced on our websites. This is also true of tens of thousands of people in the splinters and slivers who will see and hear of it in the same way…Finally, the seventh ‘train’ is/are the incredibly complex financial factor(s) in all of this. (On a side note, I can report that our income in the first 10 months of this year was 45.95 percent above the total income for ALL of 2010.)”

“But realize that there are more ‘trains’ that we must drive at the same time: (8) The expansion of Ambassador Center—although the benefits will be wonderful, this is big and complicated, and in a host of ways. Next, (9) we are planning for nationwide television by May, and not merely on little public access stations that virtually no one watches. (Television is now in the budget, as is the cost of the enormous amount of additional literature that we will be distributing as a result.) When this new medium for the Work is launched, we will be able to reach vast numbers of people on top of those we are already reaching via the Internet. The scope of this new development is ABSOLUTELY HUGE for God’s Work. This much should be obvious. We can project that almost 1 in every 25 people ON EARTH will have access to the VERY FIRST World to Come broadcast when we begin on television. Brethren, again, this is staggering to contemplate.

 Restored Church of God News