Why are signs and wonders wrong for others, yet important for COG Prophets?

Various Church of God prophets and apostles have claimed divine signs and wonders from their gods that they offer up as proof that they are legitimate conduits of their gods wisdom.

From William Miller to Herbert Armstrong and then on to Meredith, Pack, Flurry, Cox, Malm, Weinland, Thiel and many many others, these men all claimed their gods had revealed new truth to them as a warning to the church and the world. Hundreds of thousands of people believed them along the way.  Their gods sent them signs, performed wondrous miracles and all kinds of magical tricks in order to impress the people that these men were legitimate.

All of this men made a habit of mocking Christians outside their groups.  Other Christians are always wrong or are tools of Satan who uses them to deceive the world.  They are always wrong while COG leaders are always right.

Almost-arrested, self-appointed, Elijah, Elisha, Amos, Joshua, Prophet, Apostle, future martyr, Mayan authority, Chief Overseer and the bitter "son" Rod Meredith ended up wishing he had never had, is currently attacking the Eastern Orthodox church because they claim signs and wonders in their church history as do Catholics and some Protestants.

They are all wrong, but Bitter Bob's own signs and wonders are not.  The Church of God and his African members are supposed to believe that his god spoke to him in several dreams that set him apart as the new COG leader who was preserving 1st century Christianity.  Then he trots out a couple people elsewhere in the world that also had dreams about him as proof of his legitimacy.

He also likes to claim the laying on of hands by Gaylyn Bonjour was a direct sign from his god that it was imparting a "double" shovel full of the Holy Spirit into his being.  He and his African ministers are claiming direct spiritual wonders from their god that brought rain and performed other wonders recently.

The list could go on and on about the various signs and "proofs" he trots out to prove his legitimacy.  The same goes for Pack, Flurry, Weinland, Malm and others.  Their gods speak directly to them telling them many hidden things that the dumb sheep have never been able to see in scriptures.  COG members are supposed to swallow their utterances without questioning.

Not one single thing these men have uttered is of spiritual importance to any Christian.  Jesus is not coming to sit on Flurry's prayer rock.  Jesus is not coming to Wadsworth to walk with Pack as they plan his third coming. Weinland and his loony wife are not going to be killed in the streets of Jerusalem and then rise again 3 days later. Malm's pharisaical whoredom to the law proves that he prefers the "ministry of death" to that of faith. And all of his prophetic predictions and prophecies are a steaming pile of crap.

None of these men are men of integrity and spiritual goodness. All these men do is prove that the Church of God is horribly screwed up.

It's hard being a prophet. I am weary of it all.

Ever since Ron Weinland was convicted of tax fraud and sent to prison for the biblical period of 3 1/2 years, his personality cult has never recovered.  Add to that the growing number of members who have abandoned him over the years since his 2008 prophecy failed in epic proportions.  Ever since then every single one of his prophecies that he boldly declared has failed.  Because of that and to gain face in the eyes of his deluded members, he turned all of these prophecies from "physical" actions that were to come about into "spiritual" fulfillment that are being currently fulfilled supernaturally.

In spite of that, he continues to loose hundreds and hundreds of members.  It has become so frequent that Weinland has become weary of having to write disfellowshipment letters week after week.  Pretty soon Weinland thinks he might have 100 members left.

With his membership dwindling and his probation soon to be up, Weinland may head off to Europe so he can claim to be in the center of things when he and his dingy wife turn into the two witless witnesses. Germany is the home of his daughter who many ex-members believe helped Ron launder his money and whom they believe has cooked the books for Ron's cult for years.

A significant number of revealing quotes in the latest sermon

> who get to a point where they’re not in awe any longer. I hurt for them, in one respect, but this is something that has gone on for so long. This process continues on.

> This process continues on. Since the Feast I am dumbfounded how much God continues to bring to the surface,

> This Church is being cleansed and the longer we go on, the more that takes place,

> We have a short time and yet God’s going to have His Church cleaned up. That ought to sober everyone to the core of their being. Will there be a hundred left before this is over? 200? 300? I don’t know.

> It’s just like different ones who continue to go by the wayside. Every year people go by the wayside.

> I’ll be candid with you; it’s just kind of wearing on me. It’s wearying. It’s wearing. It’s hard.

> It’s hard to continue to watch people go by the wayside. It’s hard to send people letters and telling them they’re suspended or disfellowshipped.

> This isn’t over with yet. People, some people aren’t taking this seriously yet.

> It’s wearying. It tears me up, and I hate it. I hate it. Almost every week it just keeps happening since the Feast of Tabernacles.

> Because I know it’s still happening. I know what’s still going on. God’s giving me a big dose of it today to see it clearly. Since the Feast, so many. From: Ron's commision recycled

Do You Have Post Feast Depression? UCG Has The Cure

UCG Admits No One Wants To Climb Their "Ladder of Involvement"

United Church of God envisions itself as the paragon of truth that no one else gets quite as right as they do.  They believe this in spite of the fact their own brand of "new and improved" Church of Godism has never become the shining light for all of the Church of God to look to for Christian virtue.

From its embrace of embezzling bank managers, coddling ministers who got off sexually harassing women in the church, to encouraging members to lie under oath about a minister who was a stalker.  UCG's pure Christianity was so pure that it imploded several times since its inception, first with David Hulme splintering off and then with 174 ministers jumping ship along with thousands of brethren to form Church of God a Worldwide Association. Then the entire church watched as its chairman had to resign over "unchristian behavior".

Is it any wonder they struggle to appeal to the public as a place people would want to experience God?  Especially when it seems like UCG sees its journey for its members as progressive steps up a ladder. Who would even want to get on the ladder in the first place?

What "pearls of great price" does UCG possess that ANYONE would actually want to have?

UCG's ladder of progression has rungs that are broken or entirely missing as it worships the law over that inconvenient dude they are ashamed to publicly talk about.

I conducted a session that resulted in a lot of discussion, entitled: “First Contact Counseling.” The title suggests that our ministry may be given “leads” of people who take an interest in our proclamation message. The reality, however, is that we no longer have a line of people coming to us. We have to find them. We have to become “fishers of men.”

How can we reach out in the world where we live with the spiritual treasure and pearls of great price that we have acquired? We know that God calls people, but what role do we have in engaging them? We spoke of the “ladder of involvement” that all of us have climbed from first contact with the truth to committed membership through baptism. Is the ascent unimpeded from someone’s first exposure to God’s way all of the way up to engagement in the congregational environment? Do we provide the rungs needed to climb this ladder? Are the rungs solid, or are some broken? If the path is not clear, a person’s growth can stop.

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