Dave Pack: Great Tribulation Begins Thursday, January 21

 

52 Pickup

 

David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God announced a new date for your calendar: Tevet 21.

 

Depending on how you calculate, it could start at 5:21 PM EDT on Friday, January 13, or at 9:21 AM EDT if this is based on Jerusalem time. That remains a mystery because he did not say. He just threw the date out there and walked away.

 

That is the most significant point of "The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 413)," given on January 4, 2023. So, if that is all you have time for, thank you for stopping by.

 

 

Dave opened with five “interesting” little points he discovered recently. They will not be listed. However, the first one was strange for a few reasons.

 

Part 413 – January 4, 2023

@ 00:54 Everyone knows that the Two Witnesses are going to prophesy in Revelation 11, it says, in sackcloth. In sackcloth.

 

@ 01:24 We know they’re in the God Family, and they're dressed in black cloth, more than sackcloth. Now, the reason people think that is no one, including me and I’m sure none of you ever looked up the word “sackcloth.” Did any of you ever do that? Anybody ever look up “sackcloth?”

 

How the Two Witnesses are in the God Family and yet, will be murdered three and a half years into their testimony is something I missed from previous parts. Have fun thinking about that, though.

 

This is another contender for entry in David C. Pack’s Gallery of Stupid for stating that no one ever looked up the word “sackcloth” in Revelation. Do not make me Google search that, please.

 

The most fascinating angle was the classic Dave-taking-a-poll maneuver. The former members at Headquarters remember this well. If you could even understand the question, raising your hand could have consequences if he did not like the response.

 

With the way this question was worded, if NOBODY in the room raised their hand, he would have commented because it would have shown how correct he was. With neutral questions in the past, if some raised their hands, he would comment, “Okay, a few.”

 

He already set this up as an absolute he was sure of. The pressure was on for members at the front of the room to decide whether to make him look foolish by expressing the truth or quietly be still and deny it.

 

If some did raise their hands, Dave could not comment, “Okay, a few,” because it would have thrown egg on his face and stolen his thunder.

 

The audience is not visible, but I theorize at least one raised their hand because he opted to move on without commenting. (Dr. Ranney, let me know if that is true. If not, I will retract it.)

 

Of course, people in RCG looked up that word. The Packian Triad of Fraud are not the only ones deeply studying their Bibles. What a stupid and condescending thing to assume on Dave's part. He is the only one in any room who cares about whatever it is he cares about. That is stupid.

 

This poll is another Dave all-or-nothing concept. If he never read it, nobody else ever did. If he never looked up the word, nobody else ever did.

 

If you let the moment pass by, it may seem insignificant. But this is unfiltered hubris at work.

 

Due to his unique office, his superior mind was moved by the Creator of All before any other human being on the face of the earth to see that the Two Witnesses are dressed in Angora goat hair. Incredible. Why the members of RCG are worthy of such bestowed knowledge is beyond me.

 

This quick moment is a flash of light, exposing what kind of man he is.

 

Part of me thinks he used his five points to pad the message to show the brethren how much he has been studying the past week. “See how legit I am.” You are such a good boy, Dave. Because you doodie in the toilet, not in your pants.

 

 

This is a summary for those who want to know what their family members are learning.

 

@ 13:25 So, the Mystery of God is already resolved. I mean, it simply is. It’s done.

 

@ 14:04 The plan of God is ten days, seven years, a thousand years, and winter. That’s all inarguable. But timing would just never settle down. It wouldn’t. Partly because it took us a while to figure out the number of Kingdoms and durations. But, integrating many timing points was sort of like Einstein having to sort out relativity.

 

Dave is a Biblical Einstein, and his fraudulent prophetic construct is as factual as relativity. Ha.

 

Even he admits the challenge all along has been timing. Harold Camping feels your pain, Dave.

 

 

Meat Puppet explained on Saturday how difficult Bible prophecy can be. It is more challenging than competitive chess but also ever-changing, with infinite possibilities like a kaleidoscope.

 

In Part 413, Dave uses an unintentionally laughable analogy.

 

@ 16:30 So, sorting out all of the timing points was like 52 Pickup. If you open the deck, there are all the diamonds, clubs, hearts, and spades. All lined up perfectly. Shiny and new. But, once you play 52 Pickup which is what God did when He threw all these timing points into the Bible. There they were. And I was left with, “How do you sort these out?”

 

Wow. Just…wow. Sackcloth is not the only thing Dave never looked up before.

 

52 Pickup

52 pickup or 52-card pickup is a humorous prank which consists only of picking up a scattered deck of playing cards. It is typically played as a practical joke, where the "dealer" creates the false impression that a legitimate game will be played, then simply throws the entire deck into the air so the cards land strewn on the floor and instructs other players to pick them up.

 

Out of David C. Pack’s own mouth, God played a prank on him and the entire ministry of The Restored Church of God. This admission is on the scale of Dave admitting God blinded him, he repeatedly spoke presumptuously, and called his own previous teachings ridiculous.

 

It really was a ruse by Dave’s god. That same god is a prankster playing practical jokes on all the members of RCG. I thought “The Greatest Unending Story!” was inspired preaching. So, inspired by what?

 

Are you reading this RCG on-the-fencers? Did you hear what the man said? Do you consider his words?

 

Here it is again, condensed:

 

@ 16:30 So, sorting out all of the timing points was like 52 Pickup…But, once you play 52 Pickup which is what God did when He threw all these timing points into the Bible.

 

Is this the god you want to worship?

 

52 Pickup is the PERFECT analogy. It is perfect. Ironic and spot-on. David C. Pack and the enabling hirelings at Headquarters are creating a false impression of a legitimate endeavor. They keep members away from preparing for the Kingdom by focusing on building holy, righteous character—but instead, get them wound up and off-balance by shoving prophecy and timing and date after date after date in their faces.

 

Now, get on your knees and pick up that mess.

 

The Greatest Unending Story is an unending practical joke. But this is serious business.

 

Consider for a moment that David C. Pack is God’s chosen apostle commissioned under penalty of death to teach God’s people the truths of the Bible and to reveal the Mystery of God so that Jesus Christ can return. Instead of carefully guiding and correctly inspiring him, God sends Dave running to and fro, never to get any date correct to the point some sheep are disheartened and leave the flock.

 

Instead of answering his prayers with truth and knowledge, God sent him on wild goose chases, keeping him and the brethren constantly confused and in motion. Then, He throws a cruel fake-out here and there, so His chosen servant works late into the night, struggling to understand and obediently serve Him.

 

Instead of rewarding the faith of His people, this god compels his apostle to falsely declare, “Salvation will come in November of 2022,” then takes a step back to snicker. This god whispers in Dave’s heart, “It’s Christmas. Totally Christmas. Look at the math.”

 

Boink. Got ya!

 

“It’s New Year’s Eve. Totally for real this time. New Year’s Eve. In the midst of the years.”

 

Dooh!

 

This is the god David C. Pack presents to the brethren of The Restored Church of Another god. This god plays practical jokes at your expense. This god is playing 52 Pickup with the Bible.

 

The most amazing things fall from the lips of David C. Pack. His own words expose what he is. His own words expose which spirit he serves.

 

There is the Spirit of Truth and the Spirit of Error. Which one plays 52 Pickup with God's people?

 

 

Dave created a sixty-point list concerning timing that gave all the members a chance to rest their hands and ponder if the iron was left on this morning.

 

These all funneled into Tevet 21 being the start of the Day of the Lord.

@ 1:01:31 In other words, the 21^st of this month [Tevet – January 14], which is next Sabbath, ten days away, not quite ten, the 21^st begins the Great Tribulation.

 

@ 1:01:54 So, there's a three-and-a-half-day period that God carefully depicts as starting on the 24^th [Tevet – January 17]. And it ends when the 24^th does. And a new month arrives.

 

@ 1:02:23 A new moon and two weeks. 7^th and 14^th [January]. Longer than we thought. We needed patience.

 

And a healthy dose of denial sprinkled with willful blindness.

 

The reset of the month and year is still in play. Instead of Tevet 8 going back to Tevet 1, Tevet 24 now jumps to Shevat 1. Doc and Marty no longer have to worry about time travel paradoxes.

 

@ 1:03:43 Not next month and not last month, and not next year. It doesn’t even sit right in Tevet next year. These are the problems I balanced. I been studying the calendars for years to come. The next time all of just what I’ve told you lines up is 2034. But, the Mystery of God is over now.

 

@ 1:21:34 There is no math, none, that allows even one more week, or you burst into Shevat and "in one month" crashes. You only have five days left. You can't go another week.

 

This has to be it. No more chances, according to Dave. Yet, somehow I see Part 414 in our future.

 

As a professional unordained non-prophet/non-psychic, I use Magic 8 Ball and not a deck of cards. Maybe that is why calling David C. Pack a biblical fraud and every date he declares a failure before it happens stands at 100% accuracy.

 

Nothing will happen on or around Tevet 21 and I do not need 85 minutes to prove it.

 

I would never want to worship a god who plays 52 Pickup with his word or his people. Would you?

 

 

Part 413 coverage will continue tomorrow.

Marc Cebrian

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Bubonic Plague, Massacres, Captive Women and What this Means for British-Israelism

 

(From: Nature. 2015 Jun 11; 522(7555): 207–211.)

 

The Latest Findings on the Ancient Migrations into Europe:

Bubonic Plague, Massacres, Captive Women and What this Means for British-Israelism

 

By Scriptor

It is inevitable that as genetics is used in synergy with archaeology that British-Israelism (BI) will fare poorly. Evidence against the non-scientific idea of BI will continue to accumulate and the advocates of BI will have to meet the challenge with counterposed and credible data and scientific research. A recent wave of findings has revealed events in the history of human migration into Europe that depart from what has been traditionally believed by archaeologists. This new migration scenario will be described and its impact on BI will be discussed.

The people of Europe are a mixed population. They are an amalgam of three groups of people who invaded Europe at different times. The first occupiers of Europe were Hunter-Gatherers and are identified with Y Chromosome Haplogroup (Hg) I. The second group to invade were Neolithic Farmers from Anatolia identified with Hg G. And the third and final group of invaders were Steppe Pastoralists (Yamnaya people who later became the Corded Ware people), who came out of Eurasia, are identified by Hg R (R1a and R1b). The ancient Hg R people were cattle herders on the Russian Steppes. Hg I survives in south Scandinavia. Hg G survives in Sardinia and other circum-Mediterranean locations. [Otzi, the prehistoric man found in the Swiss Alps and living circa 5000 years ago (YA), is Hg G.] Otherwise, Hg I and Hg G survive in small numbers throughout Europe. The great majority Europeans, from Russia to Britain, are Hg R. (Note: While these three populations are at great variance genetically, actually different races, they were all Caucasian in appearance. The Hunter-Gatherers, closely connected genetically to modern southern Scandinavians, had blue eyes and dark skin as recently as 7,000 YA. Light skin is a relatively recent mutation. This is known from genome sequencing done on excavated skeletons.)

Using genetics and traditional archaeology (excavations and artifacts), a new migration scenario for Europe has been recently developed. I will summarize the scenario here and give references at the end of this article leading to greater detail. At one time Europe was occupied by the Hunter-Gatherers. Later another group of people came out of Anatolia and invaded Europe (5th Millennium BC). These people were agriculturalists and are referred to as Neolithic Farmers. They ceased their invasion when they reached the forested areas of Europe because this type of terrain was not conducive to farming. The Hunter-Gatherers remained in the forested areas of North Europe. The Neolithic Farmers began to mix with the Hunter Gathers after their arable lands reached carrying capacity. The Neolithic Farmers developed large, well-organized cities and were successful in their settlement of the arable land. They developed proto-urban mega sites – cities of more than 10,000 people. Then disaster occurred. An early ancestral form of bubonic plague started in the Ukraine and decimated Europe leaving vast stretches of land with very much reduced populations of Hunter-Gatherers and Neolithic Farmers (4,900 YA).

The depopulation caused by the bubonic plague gave opportunity to the Steppe Pastoralists to take over Europe (4,800 YA). The Bubonic Plague was also among the Pastoralists but they had developed some immunity to it. They sent expeditions of male warriors into Europe. In the conflict with the Neolithic Farmers and the Hunter Gatherers, they wiped out the indigenous male population and took the women into captivity for labor and reproduction. Mass graves and massacre sites have been excavated. This is unfortunately an ugly picture. The Pastoralists also altered the environment. In Denmark for instance, they burnt down forests and converted the land into fields for grazing their herds. When they reached the Atlantic shore of Europe, they acquired maritime technology from the Bell Beaker people, a related Hg R people, of Spain, and invaded the British Isles where events proceeded much as they had on the mainland, with the displacement of indigenous populations. This migration pattern may sound familiar. It is essentially what happened when the Hg R people invaded the New World. But instead of bubonic plague, the diseases transmitted to the indigenous population were smallpox, measles, and other common diseases that Europeans had already adapted to but Native Americans had no resistance to.

The result was that the Europeans are a composite of principally these three peoples. The chart at the top of this essay illustrates the population composition. The part of the chart labeled “Modern” shows the composition of modern European nations. Europeans have Neolithic Farmer and Hunter Gatherer genes principally from the women who were taken captive but the European Y chromosome lineage is primarily from the male Steppe Pastoralists. It is as if a painter had three colors of paint: white, red, and blue. These three colors were mixed to form various shades of purple. There can be some variation in the mixtures but all the colors are basically purples. And the European people are all about the same genetically from Russia to Britain and from Scandinavia to the Mediterranean. Variation in admixture of the same basic genetic components is what causes local differences in the people of Europe.

What is absent in these findings is any support for BI and other ideas espoused by Herbert W. Armstrong and Herman Hoeh. There is no evidence in the migration findings for an invasion of the British Isles by people from the Middle East. The R1b peoples of Britain have the same composite genome as the rest of Europe. Hoeh believed that Europe was populated by different races of people, some “Israelitish” and some Gentile. For instance, Hoeh believed that the Ukrainians were descended from Japheth and the British were descended from Shem. Shemites and Japhethites were regarded as different racially that there were policies taught in classes at Ambassador College Pasadena in the Seventies that Japhethites and Shemites should not intermarry. Notice on the chart above the British and Ukrainians are nearly identical genetically. The difference between these peoples is cultural/historical/geopolitical not racial.

The fact is that there is nothing about Europe that reflects Hoeh’s interpretation of the “Table of Nations” in Genesis 10. The text “Table of Nations” is a non-Biblical gloss. And God did not say that the Ukrainians were descended from Japheth; Herman Hoeh did. The recently established migration pattern discussed in this essay, when it is paired with the fact that there are no excavation strata in Palestine evidencing a dense population of Hg R people as BI would predict for the habitation area of the Ten Tribes, forms an elegant proof that BI is patently false. And this does not rest on soft arcane and semi-mythological histories and other incunabula but on hard genetic evidence and artifact excavation.

 

In summary, Europe is not divided up into various nations with greatly differing genetic backgrounds. It is instead a collection of nations with very similar genetic compositions. These peoples differ only in the amounts of the three genetic components in the admixture. The British and other “Israelitish” nations in Western Europe do not stand out genetically in any way from the greater European population. This essential similarity is illustrated in the chart above. And BI as a theory fails to explain the real data.

References

The cited video on YouTube is very interesting and explains this migration data in greater detail but is sufficiently non-technical to be understood by a general audience. It is well worth watching. The article cited is much more academic.

Towards a New European prehistory: genes, archaeology, and language – Kristian Kristiansen. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxTVSwt-jsU&t=2738s

Massive migration from the steppe was a source for Indo-European languages in Europe. Nature. 2015 Jun 11; 522(7555): 207–211. 

Personal Note

A particular study in the article listed in References above includes data from seven Yamnaya burials in Russia from around 5,000 YA. The haplogroup for all these burials is R1b-M269, a very common haplogroup in western Europe. This is also my haplogroup and my male line ancestors came from the British Isles. It is remarkable to realize that my tribe of people, the British people, were on the Steppes of Russia 5,000 YA. That is about 1,000 years earlier than the traditional date for Abraham. Since I have a speck of Jewish ancestry, I am also descended from Abraham. He just seems like a recent relative by comparison. -- Scriptor