Dave Pack: If What I Say Goes Wrong It Is Either Your Fault, God's Fault Or The Bible's Fault

Miss Translation

 

Tuesday, January 24 @ 10:05 AM ET

 

Two down. One more to go.

 

Wednesday, January 25 @ 10:06 AM ET

 

That applies to the failed dates for establishing the Kingdom of God this week that David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God declared during “The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 416)," given on January 21, 2023.

 

But it also applies to articles on the mind-numbing spectacle that is Part 416. Okay, no more whining.

 

 

Part 416 was a 90-degree turn from the content of Parts 414 and 415.

 

Elijah was going to rise before February 10. This was teased at the end of Part 414.

 

Part 414 – January 14, 2023

@ 1:39:40 And you cannot argue with the sheer massive proof I’m gonna lay on you next time that Elijah rises before February 10^th.

 

Never mind that.

 

The second half of the fantastic 60-point list showing how immovable the 40-day periods before and after February 10 was to be completed in Part 416.

 

Part 415 – January 17, 2023

@ 31:52 …now we're not waiting 24 days. And you won't have any doubt of that after the first point, and I'm gonna give you probably about 50 or 60, just not all of them today…God, in His mercy, gave us Abib 1 and 40 days in front of it.

 

Never mind that, too.

 

According to Dave in Part 416, there is no 40-day period in front of Abib 1. The stone-cold math proved it was actually 55-ish days…kinda. Or somewhere in thereabouts.

 

Part 416 – January 21, 2023

@ 42:58 …it’s 55 plus X plus 10. Abib 1 iddn’t gonna move. 55 plus X plus 10.

 

@ 48:18 Because the Kingdom may actually be longer than 45 days. It could be 46-7-8 or 9 days.

 

Do not get caught up in the exactness of prophetic mathematics. You know how fickle numbers can be.

 

This means God did NOT give the 40 days. Why would Dave assume that? What else does he think God gave that came from the Spirit of Error instead?

 

This should blast screaming alarm bells inside the heads of everyone inside The Restored Church of God.

 

 

 

When David C. Pack is forced to admit mistakes, there are usually three main culprits:

 

We, God, or the Bible.

 

Those three are also to blame for any shifts in prophetic direction. Dave considers them the termites responsible for eroding his biblical structures that do not pass inspection. When the damage is too severe for fumigation, he is forced to burn the whole thing to the ground and start over.

 

But he keeps the blueprints because they will be helpful around the same time next year.

 

That is what is happening with the road leading to Abib 1. This time, the faulty Bible is in the spotlight.

 

Part 416 – January 21, 2023

@ 16:30 So, let’s go meet our old friend, this unmarried woman, Miss Translation. Let’s go on over to the Book of Habakkuk and look one more time at this thing, “the midst of the years.” We gotta look at it more closely. It’s powerful. What happens here is very, very powerful.

 

Oh noes! Not the awful translators, again! Those ignorant pork-eating, Sunday-worshipping morons from over six hundred years ago really screwed Dave. Again.

 

He cannot wait to meet them in the Kingdom so he can sucker punch them shortly after they are resurrected. “Welcome to the afterlife, bitch.”

 

@ 17:52 What if “revive” does not mean the work has already been here? And this was a driving force in my thinking. What if it was not already here, but rather, the word simply means “make it alive?” Make Your work alive. That’s what it means. Start it! Start your work.

 

That is NOT what it means. The outcome is always bleak when Dave's nemesis, the dictionary, gets involved.

 

“Revive” is Strong’s (H2421) chayah. It is not mistranslated. Dave did not try to read the verse with the new word “alive” inserted because he knew it made no sense.

 

Habakkuk 3:2

O Lord, I have heard thy speech, and was afraid: O Lord, alive thy work in the midst of the years, in the midst of the years make known; in wrath remember mercy.

 

He needed it to mean “start” rather than “alive.” So, he rejects the printed translation, changes it to the base word, but changes the base word again to something that is not an accepted translation.

 

Revive  Alive  Start = New theory achieved.

 

Talk about adding to and taking away from the Book without fear.

 

@ 18:27 Now, that’s a big deal. If it isn’t reviving a work that got stopped for 3 ½ days because there was a Kingdom to Israel first, that changes things. It means you’re starting the work for the first time in this thing called “the midst of the years.”

 

Man, he was all excited about this. For Dave, the Bible must be like the Marauder’s Map in Harry Potter. Text on the pages appears, disappears, and moves upon command.

 

 

@ 18:46 Now, that’s not the biggest thing I’m gonna tell you, but it’s another big point that suggests somewhere between this thing called “the midst of the years” (the Roman one behind us and Abib 1), somewhere in there it starts again for the first time.

 

Dave just created a biblical paradox. I want to see anything in the physical or imaginary world start “again for the first time.” It either starts for the first time. Or it starts again. It cannot be both.

 

@ 19:13 It supports one Kingdom again, but. But, I explained (and I’m quite certain of this) midst (of course) means (says it twice) sort of generally among the years.

 

The biblical accordion expands and contracts. As pointed out recently, the meanings of words change to fit the mood of the day. The definition of "midst" varies when Dave needs it to. Like he just did with “revive.”

 

@ 19:48 Among there (that’s all it means). Inside that. Within it (that’s all it means). Start your work. That’s a pretty broad range.

 

As a reminder, he explains how vital it is for "revive" to mean "start" so his current theory can work. He changed it to "start" right in front of everyone because he needed it to mean what it did not. Stretching the definition to “live or alive” was not far enough, so facts be damned.

 

These might seem like tiny points, but these dots lead to another and another that compose a complete picture of what and who David C. Pack is.

 

David C. Pack is not a man of his word. He is not Elijah-elect. He is not an apostle. Every little dot supports that conclusion. Do not ignore them.

 

 

We can all look forward to a pure language someday. My friend Peter researched the matter. Some scholars theorize a “pure language” means that every word would have only one definition. That would erase any misunderstanding in communication, whether spoken or written.

 

The Greek and Hebrew languages have multiple meanings, allowing Prophecy Know-It-Alls to create their own private interpretations of what God says.

 

I think God designed it that way so people could sort out the true ministers of righteousness from the frauds. God handed a noose to those toiling at “figuring out timing” so they could hang themselves.

 

This is the minefield in which we live. The Greek and Hebrew languages. Strong’s Concordance. Commentaries. Dozens of Bible versions.

 

A true prophet of God tasked with leading His people would reveal information that does not change. It would not shift. It would not morph. The understanding would be clear and exact. The “present truth” would not twist or wander. The sequence and timing of events would be precise and immobile.

 

David C. Pack is NOT that man.

 

His theories are frantic sandcastles built just before the tides come in. He spends weeks constructing bulwarks, towers, and a moat. But soon, it is no more than a smooth lump on the beach as if it was never there. 2022 illustrated that perfectly.

 

 

@ 34:23 Because Abib 1 is not gonna move. It’s Mount Everest, or it’s El Capitan, or it's K2 if you know mountains. I mean, it's just sheer. It's stark. And it's fixed. It can't float away on us. 

 

It seems to be a little soon to be recycling an analogy that recently failed.

 

Part 409 – December 10, 2022

@ 18:38 The only way we go further if Christmas and all the proofs were a ruse by God to throw us off…Then, there is no Mount Everest. We just built one, and it's a mirage.

 

Derp derp.

 

Part 416 – January 21, 2023

@ 34:36 I thought Christmas was that day or New Year’s. No. No. Abib 1 is our prophetic anchor of the soul.

 

Heavy artillery fire is booming inside Dave’s head. The war against himself rages on right there at the lectern in front of the whole church. He says how solid the date is, but in the next breath, admits he thought that before. He does not know how to sell his own credibility.

 

Add that to his growing list of deficiencies.

 

Piss-poor reading comprehension? Check.

Piss-poor verbal communication? Check.

Piss-poor mathematical integrity? Check.

Piss-poor overall credibility? Check.

 

The prophetic anchor must have fallen out of the sky and landed on his head. As did the many other anvils he has explained over the years. Blunt-force head trauma would go a long way in explaining “The Greatest Unending Story!” Series.

 

 

What Bible study would be complete without Dave taking a little swipe at the brethren?

 

@ 51:10 …if you’re not interested enough to go home and look at your calendar and start playing with this and trying to see it and doing your counting, then probably you shouldn’t worry too much. You may just enjoy the months that follow in a very different way. If I can say it facetiously.

 

He tells the members of RCG that if they do not buy his malarkey, they can look forward to going into Tribulation and be cast out of the Kingdom of God. Way to win over the hearts and minds, bro.

 

And yet, they stay. Why do you stay, people in The Restored Church of God?

 

You see how he manipulates words to perpetuate his propaganda. Do not let the man give you feeble excuses about mistranslations that you know are false. Do something.

 

If you are “waiting for Mr. Pack to figure out timing,” then you cannot believe God is revealing this to him. You are leaving it for a man to fumble onto prophetic truth. The Bible does not teach that.

 

David C. Pack is being moved by the Spirit of Error, and his god is a cruel trickster. History has already proven this. You either follow the true God or Dave’s god. Giving percentages is dangerous.

 

If you believe God is guiding David C. Pack and RCG, you MUST stay.

 

If you believe God is NOT guiding David C. Pack and RCG, you MUST leave.

Marc Cebrian

See: Miss Translation

Updated: LCG: Why are you jostling for postions and seeking to be noticed? None of us in the ministry ever did this!

 

Shame on LCG members for jostling for positions and seeking to be noticed. Shame on you! You dare to do this when NONE of the ministry and leadership have EVER done this! Shame on you!

As usual, in LCGland, it is the members getting called out for this instead of the leadership. Church members are weak and immature and are prone to do this while church leadership and the ministry are enlightened and incapable of ever doing this.

UPDATE: As many have noticed...this is a perfect description of Bob Thiel and his activities that led to his hissyfit in leaving the Living Church of God to form his own church. Bob demanded that he be acknowledged and acclaimed as a prophet of the church. Rod Meredith refused and the rest is history. There is not a humble bone in Bob's body. It is always about him. LCG members realized that early on and that's why he irritated so many of them and why none of them left to join him when he apostatized. Even the Apartians understood the self-centeredness of Bob, particularly Mrs. Apartian.

What Really Motivates You? In today’s world, many are motivated by a personal quest for position, power, prestige, pleasure—or a paycheck. However, the failure to be acknowledged or acclaimed can be hard to deal with. At times, this can spill over into the Church and local congregations when individuals jostle for positions and seek to be noticed. Yet, Jesus rebuked religious leaders in His day for seeking prominent positions and public recognition (Matthew 23:1–12). In place of self- seeking motives, Jesus emphasized the importance of genuine humble service: “whoever desires to become great among you, let him be your servant” (Matthew 20:26). The Apostles Paul and Peter urged Christians to avoid self-seeking motives and focus instead on looking for ways to serve other people (1 Timothy 6:3–5; 1 Peter 5:1–4). As we eliminate selfish motives and develop the genuine humility to serve others that Jesus exhibited, God can use us more effectively as instruments in His hands (Philippians 2:3–12).
Have a profitable Sabbath, Douglas S. Winnail

"New" Messianic Armstrongite Group

"We have come through the vaginal doorway of Life..."

This one popped up on my feed the other day and it is crazier than Bob Thiel's stuff and that's a pretty hard act to follow! I don't know how new they are because they include a letter from 1985 on their site that they sent to Pasadena extolling their virtuous teachings.

When Armstrongism collapsed into a putrid pile of festering splinter groups in the 1990s, with each proclaiming they were the one proper way and had the absolute truth, church members scattered into the four winds. Some of those went with fringe groups with beliefs so far out there that even rational thinking could not comprehend what they believe.

This brings us to ThePlanTruth.World. It is a mishmash of Armstrongism, Aliens, British Israelism, law-keeping, and Messianic Judaism, including its own prophets and Elijah's and people who receive visions.

When you browse other nuttiness, very little actually points to Jesus, but to other creatures they claim to follow to look towards.

Here are a few of the glorious things they have restored, including the true calendar and the "black and white" texts.

Dave Pack: The Great Tribulation starts tomorrow at 10am. Or Tuesday morning. Or Wednesday morning. Whatever

 

Sandcastles

 

David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God is eroding.

 

Every biblical structure he builds possesses the longevity and lasting impression of a sandcastle upon the shoreline. Time is his biggest adversary. Winds and tides easily dismantle his most-elaborate constructs.

 

20,000 hours of labor are washed away overnight as if they never existed. Thus is the life of Pester General David C. Pack, who continually makes his prophetic sandcastles without being savvy enough to realize the sand needs to be wet. Dry sand can only make piles. A five-year-old understands this.

 

He sometimes stomps on his own creation, kicking sand in his face from the day before as if someone else came up with those wacky ideas.

 

Skip a Part or two, and all you missed was disinformation, conjecture, and supposition presented as stone when it equals the durability of sand.

 

After Christmas failed, he moved to New Year’s Eve. After that, it seemed as though the flag atop his tower was about to be set with Tevet 21, but instead, a wave came along and cleared it away to the foundation.

 

Christmas Eve was a sandcastle.

New Year’s Eve was a sandcastle.

Tevet 21 (January 14) was a sandcastle.

 

A new set of sandcastles are fashioned for this week that will wash away before the Sabbath.

 

Monday, January 23 @ 10:04 AM ET

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Tuesday, January 24 @ 10:05 AM ET

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Wednesday, January 25 @ 10:06 AM ET

 

 

Dave is hard to follow during this opaque-rich "The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 416)" given on January 21, 2023. I listen to his messages slowly and then repeatedly at half-speed while transcribing his quotes. This requires reviewing the same paragraphs over and over.

 

Even doing that did not help much to follow him. Listening to Part 416 is a significant chore, and I hope I never have to do it again. What a burdensome hurdle for the poor folks of RCG. The On-The-Fencers will be glad they skipped this one. My brain feels bruised.

 

It is a pity Dave did not get a chance to teach his amazing proofs about Elijah rising before February 10, before all this new knowledge came to sucker punch that plan in the nose. Elijah is in there somewhere, but we are left to wonder.

 

The remaining 30 points of his super-important 60-proof list will also have to remain a perpetual mystery, much to the chagrin of those who tried to number them. It serves you right for trying to follow him so closely.

 

Despite the confusing fog of Part 416, some key items are gleaned:

 

•  There is no separate Kingdom to Israel timeframe. It is actually the Kingdom of God.

 

•  There is a 45-day Kingdom of God, a fleeing period, a 10-day Great Tribulation, and then, Abib 1 begins the 10-day Day of the Lord.

 

•  There is no 80-day countdown to Abib 1. He gets caught lying about that.

 

•  February 10 is a non-starter and is off the table.

 

 

@ 00:03 Well, this will be an exciting message. Very dramatic material…

 

@ 00:32 Go into this knowing Abib 1 is still our absolute prophetic anchor. It’s inviolable. Now, let’s see how much further we can go in regard to precise timing. Something broke, and I’m gonna pretty much close the message with it.

 

It is funny to reflect on this early comment considering when he ends the message regarding timing, he is all BUT precise. Sunset Jerusalem time, “possibly Sunday morning” through “possibly Thursday morning” does not scream “precise” to the cynic in me. Perhaps my wicked antichrist mind demands too much of him.

 

Everyone's brain broke with this message, including those inside RCG. I am aware of the chatter.

 

@ 09:37 I want to establish that we are waiting for Jesus Christ. Period.

 

Ha ha ha. A generous 5% of Herbert W. Armstrong’s corpse is chuckling in his grave. Ed Winkfield is wiping the sweat from his brow again now that he does not have to plan on updating all the literature. For the fifth-dozen time. Rest easy, Ed. Strategic procrastination works wonders.

 

 

@ 15:23 …what makes it difficult is, Are there three Kingdoms of God after a Kingdom to Israel, or is the first Kingdom of God, because it's built by God and Christ coming to a temple, is that the Kingdom of Israel? That’s the problem.

 

@ 15:49 And if they [Father and Jesus Christ] do come together to do it, then we get full-on absolute salvation when we go first. Those are the implications.

 

Dave discovers salvation comes when the Father and Jesus Christ arrive. If Jesus Christ brings the Kingdom of Israel, it is the Kingdom of God. The Kingdom TO Israel is no longer a separate time period. It is The Kingdom of God.

 

I remember this flip-flopping over the years when I was in the room. As a lay member and by no means a Bible scholar, when I read in the Book of Acts the apostles asking Jesus Christ before He ascended to heaven if He was going to restore the Kingdom to Israel, I perceived it as the Kingdom of God because Jesus Christ was going to establish it. It seemed pretty clear back then.

 

Sometimes you cannot tell someone they are wrong, even when you can prove it. People must go on the journey themselves to later come back with the same logical endpoint. We have to do that with Dave. Just let him go through his process, and hopefully, he will realize his theory is bunk before too much damage is done.

 

Parents do this with children. Friends do this with friends. Spouses. Be patient and wait for them to draw the conclusion you pointed out at the beginning of the journey. The critical element is they get it and move on.

 

So, Dave was wrong. At least he provided a profound, heartfelt apology for stringing the church along.

 

@ 16:03 And so, I apologize. This has been the most difficult thing I’ve ever wrestled with in my life. And so, the way I could I make myself feel better is I tell myself, “Nobody else ever saw anything but the Millennium.”

 

Yeah, do not reflect on the error for too long or let it soak in. He needed to wash the filth of failure off quickly before it left a stain. That might be embarrassing.

 

 

Dave blames a mistranslation of the word “midst” in Habakkuk 3:2 as an excuse for his manufactured 80-day count from New Year’s Eve to Abib 1 with a 40-day Sabbath in the middle on February 10.

 

David C. Pack admits he is a deceiver to The Restored Church of God.

 

While explaining what verses really mean, he exposes the fraud of his original theory.

@ 20:47 There're exactly 81 days minus a few hours because of midnight versus sundown. But there're 81 days between New Year's night and Abib 1. So, you can't really hit the dead middle anyway. It's gonna be 40-41 or 41-40. But, my mistake was looking for a Sabbath…and that just ended or came nicely at 40 days…But the point is, I thought, “That’s interesting.” Kinda 40-40 or 41-40 and a part of a day. And then 40 more. 

 

His mistake was looking for a Sabbath? No. That was his motivation. He forced the math to make it work. Should this be considered a mistake or intentional lying? 

 

Part 414 – January 14, 2023

@ 1:27:40 How many days are there between New Year’s Eve and Abib 1? None of you will know. I’ve done the math for you. How many are there?

@ 1:28:07 Here’s the number: exactly 80 days.

@ 1:28:49 I mean, it’s just basic math. It’s inarguable stuff here, brethren. That’s why I drove home Abib 1. And we had to figure out, “What do you mean ‘midst of the years?’” Boy, did we battle that one. Turns out, it really is dead-on. 40 and 40.

 

David C. Pack misled the brethren and knew he was doing it. My mommy taught me that is called lying.

 

David C. Pack lied to The Restored Church of God.

 

I almost called him out on the greasy, slimy math of the 40-80 day business from Part 414. I kick myself now for letting it go. I counted it over and over and could not get to an even 80 days from December 31 to March 22, with a 40-day middle landing on the Sabbath on February 10.

 

I figured I must have missed some quick detail in the message. As it turns out, I did not miss anything. He was conning everyone.

 

For the 80-day count to fit while landing on the Sabbath on February 10, you had to start on January 1 (not December 31) at sunset, February 10 at sunset, and end on March 22 at sunset. Dave was not specific about counting from sunset or midnight because he was purposefully in a gray zone.

 

He counted on everyone giving him a pass when they went home and not fact-checking the math. I tried to do that, but he was intentionally vague on how you count a day, and I fell for it.

 

What stopped me from bringing it up was that if you count from sunset on January 1, you can land on each day at sunset. But that is NOT what he taught and NOT what he meant.

 

I erred on the side of giving Dave the benefit of the doubt, which now makes me a jackass. I apologize for letting you folks down. It will not happen again. The man cannot be trusted. Not when he quotes himself. Not when he presents math.

 

From now on, when something smells fishy, it will be called out.

 

Part 416 – January 21, 2023

@ 21:30 But, I have to be honest, brethren…that is simply not what the word “midst” means.

 

Oh, so now is the time to be honest. He never explained the WHY in the change of the math. The calculator that was broken a week ago must have been fixed because…wow…he was off by a few hours, destroying the entire theory.

 

The man admitted to all the members of The Restored Church of God that he fooled them. This is the guy they choose to follow?

 

David C. Pack built a prophetic sandcastle that did not last a week. Ponder that. This not only shows what the man does but who he is.

 

 

He set a series of dates for this week and walked away from a February 10 target. How he got there will be covered another time. Dennis, these quotes might work well for the Alumni website.

 

@ 47:07 It is interesting that the goodman of the house is charged with telling the brethren the hour and the watch…when the thief would come. And so, I’ve told you that. Per Headquarters time, it’s around 10 in the morning. Anytime from tomorrow morning, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and I guess if you’d say Thursday and no flight [from Jerusalem] time to get out of trouble. It’s possible. It’s possible.

 

@ 48:54 Frankly, what’s interesting, is if it were tomorrow morning, the Kingdom is 7 times 7 is 49 days. And it would be exactly two months. Now, I’m not saying it is tomorrow. I’m not saying that. But do not rule out tomorrow morning.

 

Too late.

 

@ 51:01 I’m not saying it’s tomorrow morning. Exercise your mind. That’s what we’re supposed to do. So, I’m helping you. I’m trying to do the math.

 

If brethren in The Restored Church of God truly exercised their minds, they would resign. If the “ministers” truly exercised their minds, they would resign. David C. Pack is a carnival barker leading them on a rollercoaster that goes in circles that can never stop.

 

@ 1:02:07 I hope it's tomorrow. I suspect it's not. It's okay if it's Thursday. I suspect it's not. We'll see which day it is. Check your clocks around the world per Jerusalem sunset. I think math has brought us what we've been waiting for a long time. Good night.

 

If he can lie about the math from New Year’s Eve to March 22, he can lie about anything.

 

This picture will change, and a new sandcastle will necessarily be constructed to keep the cycle going. Do not buy into the illusion.

 

The new dates will be washed away BEFORE the next Sabbath. Consider that.

 

Part 416 was bewildering, but there are more worthwhile elements to examine next time.

Marc Cebrian

See: Sandcastles

The Sin of Ingratitude In The Churches of God

 

The letter below was on Exit and Support Network and while it pertains to the Philadelphia Church of God it could just as applicable to most of the other COG's. Members are constantly being berated for not sending in as much money as leaders expect. Members are expected to skimp, live frugally, and give tremendously so that the leadership can live opulent lives never worrying about where the next meal will come from.

Who can forget the member letters from Herbert Armstrong raking members over the coals for some crisis in the church and then immediately demand they give as much as they can for some ridiculous mighty push to get a fake gospel out about a "mighty hand from someplace"?

What is the “sin of ingratitude” to the Philadelphia Church of God?
What “church” could be more ungrateful than they? 

 

As that false ministry preaches to its members about being thankful, it is never about being thankful to God but about being thankful to them and for their “prophet” and for being ‘blessed’ in receiving “the Truth” from their ministers in the form of “spiritual food.” 

 

But what real food can the members ever afford who first lose at least 30 percent of their income through local, state and federal taxes, and then must pay another 30 percent on top of that into this false church, or else must perish in the lake of fire? 

 

All that a member can do is dream about having real food to eat, but eat “spiritual food,” as they may call it, instead. 

 

What kind of a day of rest is the Sabbath when a working member cannot afford to have a good meal on the eve of that day or on that day? 

 

For years I had to deal with the quandary as to whether I should pay for gas to make it to “church services” or be able to enjoy a nutritious meal on Friday or Saturday after surviving on less than a 500 calorie per day diet while I did hard work all week. Of course, I always paid for gas instead of eating. 

 

In all the fake sermons I heard, the members were never thanked for the wealth and opulence enjoyed by those privileged people at HQ. The members were instead craftily manipulated by well-fed ministers who were skilled at using the Bible as an instrument of spiritual torture to guilt members into paying ever more and more, even beyond what tithes and offerings that fake church could extort out of its members, biblically. 

 

And then, we arrive at that “sin of ingratitude” as classically preached about by Herbert Armstrong in the old WCG. How much ingratitude, or lack of gratitude, must that fake church have, in order to always ask its members for more, more, more…? Man, for lack of such a critical element as gratitude, why could those ministers not instead be asking and praying to receive a spirit of gratitude themselves, instead of for more money? 

 

If people be guilty of the “sin of ingratitude,” as most human beings are ungrateful for what become just basic things to them and which things they take for granted over time, and without regarding the God who made all things, then the fake Philadelphia Church of God is guilty for being ungrateful to and for its members for sacrificing all those basic things and more, even God-given freedom, in order to please and appease the heads of that greedy and corrupt religious organization. None compares to them when regarding the “sin of ingratitude.” 

 

Once on some older Trumpet Daily show, Stephen Flurry (SF) commented about the company CEO of Amazon for not even acknowledging that what profit he was now using for some space project he could then participate in had come from all the people who paid in and whom he profited from. Few comments ever sounded so hypocritical as what was coming from SF’s own mouth then. 

 

Anyways, it is one of my greatest regrets to have given anything at all to that fake church, not just because of personal losses, but because I now know what evil I have contributed to, and not any good. What evil I have financed unwittingly has also caused others to suffer loss and injury. God forgives me for that which I did not intend to do, but how could God ever forgive that fake church who purposefully uses the Bible to extort people to the point of injury and while misusing His name in doing so, with all ingratitude? 

 

By Nate [name changed] (former PCG member)
January 22, 2023