Ron Weinland Reveals The True Name of Jesus

Over the last couple of years, the Church of God has bee subjected to various self-appointed prophets, apostles and Pharisees have been warning us of doom and gloom they soon hope will to strike this nation, Canada, England and Australia. The thought of famine, pestilence, war and death excites these guys to no end.  It is like it is a fetish to them.

From raving lunatics like Pack, Malm, Cox, Flurry and Thiel, these near-death prophecies are the basis of their threats and demands that they lay upon their followers.  Unless their followers heed every single thing they say, salvation will not be granted by their gods.  Their god and the thing they call "jesus" is eternally pissed.  Grace, mercy and redemption are not part of their vocabulary.  Such things actually infuriate them.

This brings us to another Church of God false prophet who claims his "jesus" is soon to return.  The difference in this prophet's "jesus" and the one that some of the others claim to follow is that this "jesus" is a created being that never was part of the heavenly realm that most of Christianity understand and believes.

This prophetic fool is none other than Rond Weinland, the official certified Church of God felon.  In his June 8th letter to his rapidly imploding little flock, he attacks Christian and Jews for their varied beliefs in a Messiah. He has a fit over the Trinity, the council of Nicea and the Catholic Church, claiming they are all a mess and wholly not unified because of their beliefs...unlike the Churches of God who are 100% united across the board in their understanding in all doctrines and biblical interpretations!

Weinland, like the above lying false prophets, is looking forward to war as he writes:

That is why this world is about to be plunged into the worst times of all human history, whereby God declares that if He did not intervene that mankind would indeed annihilate himself. It has only been now in this prophesied period of the end-time that mankind has developed the means of doing just that through the use of nuclear weapons.

That time has now come when such weapons are going to be used. And once it begins, only God can stop it. It is important to know that there is enough power in such weapons to destroy all life from this planet many times over.

Weinland next writes about his "jesus" and the Jesus that Christianity and most Church of God's believe in.  According to the Second Witless Witness, the Jesus of Christianity and most COG's is Jesus Christ.  This Jesus is the Catholic Jesus and not the "jesus" of the true church.

Only One True Christ

This brings us back to the subject at hand. Indeed, God promised that He would give to mankind a Messiah—a Christ—through whom He would save the world. From the beginning of the Church of God on the Pentecost of AD 31 (Acts 2), the disciples taught about this Messiah, this Christ, who had died and was resurrected to life again, now having everlasting spirit life. They taught that he was the one who was now with God the Father and who was now working with Him to prepare for a Kingdom that would come and reign on this earth for 1,000 years (Rev. 20). But traditional Christianity chooses to ignore such scriptures and does not teach about this period of time because it does not fit their doctrine and beliefs.

The overwhelming majority of people simply do not question what they have been taught from youth. They do not understand that only two churches arose after the time of Christ’s death and then continued for many hundreds of years before other churches emerged on the world scene who also came to call themselves Christian.

First, there was the Church of God, which is known throughout scripture in the New Testament and is referred to in exactly that way—the Church of God—God’s Church. Indeed, the oldest Christian church is the Church of God, which God brought into existence on Pentecost AD 31 and has continued now for nearly 2,000 years.

However, in AD 325 another church began to emerge that began to use the stories and writings of the apostles to teach about a different Messiah—a different Christ. They chose a name to identify him as the one who was born on Christmas Day, and the one who was resurrected on the Sunday morning of Easter. But none of this is true. Nevertheless, they gave him a name and they became a very great religion on this earth. The name they gave him is that of Jesus Christ.

The problem with Christianity and the Churches of God is that they do not follow the "jesus" that the Second Witless Witnesses believes in. This "jesus" is the one that Felon Weinland revealed to the world in 1994, the year Felon Weinland and his dingy wife apostatized from the mother church. 1994 is an earth-shattering date in the history of the church as God was FINALLY speaking to his true prophet.

Although God’s Church has remained small through time, just as God said it would be, the Church of God has been teaching and publishing the truth of Christ’s return for just over 80 years now. But a more precise timing for that return was not known until God gave a very specific countdown to His Church that began in December 1994. The incredible event that began this countdown is the very event God foretold through the apostles Paul and John. Paul declared that this future prophesied event would be the sign of Christ’s coming—of his return. This is fully covered in the most recent book I’ve written, Prophesy Against the Nations.

It is the responsibility of God’s Church, as a watchman, to warn about a great world war that immediately precedes Christ’s actual return. That specific warning has now been going out to the world for nearly 70 years. In the countdown that began in 1994, there are very specific measures of time that God has given as to when he can send His Son to become the King of kings in His Kingdom. There are only very specific periods or moments in time in which God has shown that His Son can return.

The date of 1994 is vitally important to the end time Witless Witness in that is leads directly to March of 2019 or Pentecost 2020 as the date of the return of his "jesus".

The countdown that began in 1994 has specific periods of time in which God can bring this age of mankind to an end and then establish His Kingdom under the reign of His Messiah, the Christ, for the next 1,000 years. God has revealed that this final end-time count to Christ’s return must fully align with the timing of certain annual Holy Days and that within that alignment there must be the fulfillment of very specific segments of time.

Note that the "jesus" of Felon Weinland has failed to return several times now:

The first count in which this event could have occurred was on the Pentecost of 2012 or the Pentecost of 2013. But it did not happen at that time. The next and far more meaningful “count” and alignment for Christ’s coming is on Pentecost, June 9th of 2019.

You can know if that is the time Christ will once again stand upon the Mt. of Olives if a third world war has broken out by February or March of 2019 at the latest. If not, then the next possible return will be the Pentecost of 2020. Beyond that and there will be a space of more time that will be a matter of a few years. The world is just that close to a final world war—a nuclear war breaking out on earth. It is that nuclear war that is the trigger for Christ’s coming and the purpose for his intervention in the affairs of mankind to stop that war.

See the easy out the Felon gave himself for 2020?  If his "jesus" does not return, more time will be available for a few years more.  Every single self-appointed Church of God prophet has been saying this crap for 8 decades now. Thier "jesus" never seems to come during their expected dates.

The "jesus" of Weinland keeps failing to return because of some many variables at work in his church and the world today.  It is his church members fault that they are not ready and its the world's fault that they just cannot seem to royally f___ it all up. Weinland's "jesus" has to sit there and twiddle his thumbs for a few more years.

The book, Prophesy Against the Nations, explains the prophetic countdown that began in December 1994 and the intricate plan whereby God will fulfill specific timing and prophecy for this end-time. The eventual precise timing God will use to fulfill these prophetic events is somewhat fluid due to current choices being made by people in God’s own Church and by leaders in this world. That is because there are great variables that exist because of the kinds of choices people have before them, and this has strong bearing on how and when God will bring all things together in order to complete the fulfillment of all end-time prophecy. Nevertheless, God is using specific segments of timing in order to usher in His Kingdom on earth where the Christ will finally become the prophesied King of kings over all nations.

There is now a final cleaning of the true Church of God.  It is time for Weinland's god to spit out more people. After all, it is COG members fault "jesus" cannot return to earth and wreck vengeance upon Weinland's critics.

A Final Cleansing for God’s Church

Since the final countdown for Christ’s return began in 1994, God has been preparing His Church for that return. As part of this process, God has also been restoring and revealing far more truth to His Church so that His Church is indeed ready for that return. Part of that process of God revealing truth is also a process for revealing error—in order to cleanse the Church and get rid of error.

Herbert W. Armstrong, an end-time apostle of God, although not received by the world as God’s apostle, was raised up by God in the 1930s in order to begin this process of restoring truth in His Church. God did this because over the prophetic era of the Church known as Sardis, much truth had been lost. As a matter of fact, truth began to be lost not long after the last of the original apostles died. That apostle was John, who in his later years was imprisoned for a time on the Isle of Patmos by the Roman government. It was there that the last book of scripture was revealed to him—the Book of Revelation.

But after 1800 years of persecution that came from different governments of man, beginning with the Roman Empire, as well as persecution and death from those who even called themselves Christian, the Church of God began to lose truth it was originally given. Once the printing press was invented and many other organizations with many varying beliefs concerning Christianity arose on the scene, it became even more of a struggle for the Church of God to hold onto the truths it had been given from the beginning.

So God raised up an end-time apostle whose job and commission was to begin restoring truth once more. God was doing this all in preparation for His Son to be sent back to this earth once again. It was revealed to Herbert W. Armstrong

Herbert W. Armstrong was also shown in the late 1940s that a company of ten nations in Europe would have much to do with the events of this end-time. He spoke of these ten nations that would arise at the end and that they would have (1) a common government (first the EEC and then the European Union), (2) a common currency (the Euro which came on the scene in 1999, 13 years after his death in 1986), and (3) its own military which has now become a reality as well.

But the world did not truly listen to God’s apostle nor has it ever really listened to His prophets and apostles.

Now we get to the final truth that Felon Weinland needs to reveal about his "true jesus".  Felon Weinland has bought into the "one god" teaching and this explains that his "jesus" is a created being He also goes on to explain how God became the Father.

It wasn’t until 2005, after Herbert W. Armstrong died in January 1986, that God revealed more error about this Trinity teaching to His Church. Mr. Armstrong knew that the holy ghost or holy spirit was not a being—not a separate God being, but he had not come to see the rest of the error in the Trinity teaching, which was that there is only “one” being who is God who has eternally existed. Christ had a beginning in life only after being born of Mary because the One Self-Existing Eternal God (Yahweh Elohim) had begotten Mary with His Son. By this act He added to His name—that of being God who then became a Father.

So God’s Church teaches that Christ has not eternally existed as the Trinity teaches. Scripture is filled with much evidence that there has only been One who has eternally existed and that He is the Almighty Self-existing Eternal God. No one else has ever had such self-existing eternal life in them—only One has.

“I am the LORD [Yahweh or the Eternal], and there is none else, there is no God [Elohim] besides me: I girded you, though you have not known me: That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none besides me. I am the LORD [Yahweh, the Eternal], and there is none else” (Isaiah 45:5-6).

Did you know it took until 2005 for God to reveal to the church that "jesus" never eternally existed and that he is nothing more than a created being?  I don't know what planet Weinerdude is on, but there have been people who have taught this since the beginning of Christianity!

In 2005, God gave to his final apostle and His Church to know that Christ was not of the Trinity either. He has not eternally existed, but had his beginning of life and existence from a birth that the One Eternal Self-existing God gave in begettal to Mary as his mother.

There is one last final teaching that Weinerdude needs to give to the church and that is TRUE name of his "jesus".

Only One Christ & One Last Error to Correct

As this post stated at the beginning, the world is filled with very divergent and conflicting beliefs about the Messiah—the Christ. This is true in both Judaism and in traditional Christianity. Traditional Christianity does agree on one primary thing and that is the name they have given him—Jesus Christ.

That is a different Christ than the one the disciples spoke of in scripture. The first book of the New Testament makes it clear what the Messiah’s true name was to be, but the church that became great in the Roman Empire after AD 325 changed that name and influenced its change in all scriptures as well.

God declared what His Son’s name was to be and it is not the name chosen and given to him by traditional Christianity.

It is important to understand what God told Joseph before His Son was born of Mary. God made it clear to Joseph, and to all who will listen, what the Messiah’s name was to be. This will first be quoted for how it is stated in the New King James Version of the Bible.

“Now the birth of Jesus Christ was as follows: After his mother Mary was betrothed to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Spirit. Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not wanting to make her a public example, was minded to put her away secretly. But while he thought about these things, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, ‘Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take to you Mary your wife, for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit. And she will bring forth a son, and you shall call his name JESUS, for he will save his people from their sins.’ So all this was done that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the Lord through the prophet, saying: ‘Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a son, and they shall call his name Immanuel,’ {Isa 7:14} which is translated, ‘God with us.’ Then Joseph, being aroused from sleep, did as the angel of the Lord commanded him and took to him his wife, and did not know her till she had brought forth her firstborn son. And he called his name JESUS” (Matthew 1:18-25).

The name God gave to His Son as given through an angel to Joseph was not “Jesus.” Jesus is supposedly a transliteration of the actual word, which in English is “Joshua.” “Jesus” (Iesous [ee-ay-sooce’]) is supposedly the closest sound from Latin or Greek that could be used for the name of Joshua in Aramaic or Hebrew. However, it is not an actual translation of the word. The name of Jesus does not carry the actual meaning of the name of Joshua, yet that is the name God instructed to be given the Christ.

Joshua the Christ is coming to save us!  What amazing new truth!

Clearly the name of Joshua (Immanuel) is about “God being with us,” giving Christ power to help “save” His people—to help save us from our sins. Christ was the very Word of God made flesh as it speaks of in the Book of John. It is about the very Son of God, who is of the same Word of God (“logos” – the very revelatory thought and mind of God).

Indeed, after nearly 2,000 years God is about to send His Son as the Messiah—the Christ—to first save mankind from self-annihilation, and then to establish the Kingdom of God over all nations. The last great error to be removed from God’s Church in order that it be made fully ready for Christ’s coming is the correction of his very name. The name “Jesus” Christ represents all that began to be taught in error in a church calling itself Christian after AD 325. That name represents the teaching of that church in doctrines like the Trinity, Easter, Sunday worship, Christmas, and much more that is in error to God’s Word.

The one whose feet may well be standing once again next year upon the Mt. of Olives, after nearly 2,000 years, is Joshua the Christ—the true Messiah sent from God to save mankind.

Ron Weinland, Felon, Makes British Newspaper Over End Of The World In June 2019

End of the World COMING: 

Doomsday prophet claims apocalypse less than ‘ONE YEAR AWAY'

Ron Weinland, our favorite Church of God felon, has caught the eye of the British Press due to his prediction the end of the world will begin in June of 2019.  Like all of Weinland's previous asinine utterances, come July 2019 the world will once again see that Weinland is a liar.  Weinland has had one embarrassing failure after another since he claimed 2008 was the end of time.

Though the article is brief, it is very apparent that whoever wrote it has been checking out COG blogs related to Ron and his loony family.  There is no escaping the Internet any more for these charlatans!

Ronald Weinland is the founder of the Church of God Preparing for the Kingdom of God (COG-PKG). 

The author of multiple books on the subject of the end of the world, Weinland now claims Judgment Day will come in June 2019. 

Formerly a minister of the Worldwide Church of God, based in North Carolina, he formed the COG-PKG in 1998. 

Ever since, Weinland has warned his followers the end times are upon us, telling those who mock him or his church they will be cursed with “a sickness that will eat them from the inside out”.  End of the World COMING: Doomsday prophet claims apocalypse less than ‘ONE YEAR AWAY'

Is Dave Pack Ready To "Squeal Like A Stuck Pig?"

The small group of apostate church jumpers at Restored Church of God have this little blurb up today about Dave Pack ridiculing Ron Weinland and his idiotic May 27th prophecy:

New Open Letter Addressing Ronald Weinland’s Prophecies

Mr. Pack has written an extensive Open Letter to followers of the Church of God – PKG. It is titled “Ron Weinland—Spectacularly Wrong!”

Over recent years, Ronald Weinland fell into ridiculous teachings on many topics, but especially his framework of prophecy. He has announced a series of failed predictions. He is most noted for predicting that Jesus Christ will return on May 27, 2012.

Opening with a more than cursory overview of the truth of prophecy, including some brief statements from Mr. Armstrong, this article goes on to identify and refute Weinland’s bizarre, totally unscriptural prophetic scenario. Addressing a number of topics in a way you have not seen, it is a tool to help misled followers untangle themselves from a web of error and delusion.

Apostle Pack says:

 Some time before (referring to Harold Camping), a lesser known “prophet,” Ronald Weinland (of the Church of God – PKG), had spun his own theory about how Christ would return on May 27, 2012. He began pushing in earnest his end-time scenario—through extensive ad campaigns much like Harold Camping—five and a half years earlier in late 2006, in belief that the Great Tribulation would begin on December 14, 2008. (Also paralleling Harold Camping, Ron Weinland has had to recompute events and dates because of failed prophecies.)

Dave does not recognize the fact that Herbert W Armstrong had hundreds of failed prophecies. Gerald Waterhouse had hundreds of them, Dean Blackwell had his share, John Rittenbaugh has his embarrassing failures.  The list could go on and on.

The most magnanimous Apostle to ever walk the face of the earth has this to say:

True ministers of God strive to never attack other human beings. They are for the truth rather than against people—and there is a big difference. Therefore, I have determined to actively resist and teach against any false doctrines that are deceiving people among the splinters. However, this subject presents a unique problem with this policy.

Dave then goes on to say this:

When a leader teaches a false concept or doctrine, it rarely has anything to do with himself. Generally, the heresy can be clearly singled out and countered without having to necessarily address the man who teaches it. 

This is going to come back and  bite Dave in the ass big time!   RCG is all about DAVE!  It's all about HIMSELF!  Hersey in the Restored Church of God is centered squarely in Dave Pack's shoulders!

Dave goes on to say this about prophets, which of course does not apply to him:

The Bible says prophets fall into one of two categories—true or false. All prophets—past, present or future—are one or the other. They cannot be both, and they cannot be in-between. Within the category of false prophets are two types: Those who claim to be a prophet, but falsely foretell events, not being inspired by the true God—and those who do not necessarily claim to be a prophet, but who teach falsely about prophecy—and for that matter any other aspect of God’s Word. The latter would include false teachers and false ministers. Like false prophets, false teachers assert they are vested with God’s authority. Rather than falsely prophesying future events, they teach false doctrines supposedly from the Bible. Therefore, Jesus’ warnings about false prophets also apply to false teachers, who work in the same way.

Ronald Weinland is a complete fraud, and one who is breathtakingly ignorant of even the most rudimentary elements of prophecy—of events that should be impossible to misunderstand. He is utterly wrong—and in his case spectacularly so, and on virtually every point! The Bible does not validate any of his prophetic ideas. You are about to see this.

We can rightly says:

 Dave Pack is a complete fraud, and one who is breathtakingly ignorant of even the most rudimentary elements of prophecy—of events that should be impossible to misunderstand. He is utterly wrong—and in his case spectacularly so, and on virtually every point! The Bible does not validate any of his prophetic ideas. You are about to see this.

Dave says:

Tragically, most who read Bible prophecy remain in near total ignorance of its size and scope. They are completely unable to recognize the speed, sequence and timing of its prophecies. And this is on top of not truly comprehending what any of them means! So many just cannot untangle the maze of what happens when, as well as where and to whom—and WHY!

 Then says this  about his prophecies.  He knows EXACTLY how they will all come about:

The interested reader will want to view my 2-part World to Come broadcast series titled “26 Prophetic Events in Exact Sequence Before Christ’s Return!” It reveals in detail all that lies ahead.)

Dave then goes into a look screed about the specific things that will happen in a specific order.  Just typical Armstrongite prophecy silliness.

 Dave does write some good things in his letter that are spot on about Weinland.

...seeing through Ron Weinland should be a snap. Incredibly, he has managed to get almost nothing right—NOTHING! It has been said that even a blind squirrel occasionally finds a nut. Not Weinland! He seems unable to get anything right, even accidentally. Again, if Elijah mocked the ancient prophets of Baal, I can mock a modern one.

Pack has this to say about lying false prophets.

A final word of caution: When their silliness is exposed for what it is, false prophets usually squeal like stuck hogs in protest. With his “credibility” now at stake, I realize this article might cause Ron Weinland to smear my credibility. He virtually has to. But at best his words will only carry “weight” until May 28 when his prophecy fails. The even barely discerning person will realize Weinland cannot use God’s Word in any intelligible fashion to do this.

I can see that very soon we will see Dave squealing like a stuck pig because of his lies.

Beware all you splinter cult leaders, Dave has his sight set on you next!  God's most powerful Apostle over the largest web based minister on earth today is coming after you!

I will address more splinter leaders in the future—and in detail. This includes certain other deceivers within these groups.

Dave's letter is long and boring, filled with typical Armstrongite theological stances with a Dave spin added to them.  Read it at your leisure because it is all fantasy:  Ron Weinland—Spectacularly Wrong!

Idiotic Ron Weinland Video : Alien Demons

Armstrongism's latest fool to soon go down in flaming glory on May 27th is Ronnie Weinland.  Here is one of his more idiotic videos.

God Discussion Puts Ron Weinland On Hot Seat Tonight

Sign on tonight to listen to a lively discussion about one of  Armstrongim's biggest false prophets. There will be a discussion tonight on "God Discussion" that will feature a segment about Ron Weinland.

This is from the email I received this morning:

"...on our "God Discussion" show tonight during the 2nd hour of the program to talk about Ron Weinland.  The freethought types of blogs have gone wild promoting the story over the past few days, so it should be a well-received interview. 

Details on tonight's guests are here:

http://www.goddiscussion.com/88618/this-week-on-the-goddiscussion-show-a-night-of-humanism-and-reason-with-roy-speckhardt-al-stefanelli-and-others/

The show itself can be accessed live here:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/god-discussion/2012/01/13/roy-speckhardt-american-humanist-association

There is a web-based chat room that appears automatically, also, and it tends to be a hoot.

When it is live, the page notes that it is ON AIR and it will play from your computer speakers (you might have to press a button -- BlogTalk keeps updating but generally, the show automatically plays).  About 10-60 minutes after the podcast concludes, it is available for download as an MP3 from BlogTalk and shortly thereafter, is available on iTunes.  Slowly but surely, I am converting the shows into YouTube videos.  It's a long process and I cannot give a specific date on when tonight's show will be in video format."

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This Week on the God Discussion Show: A night of humanism and reason with Roy Speckhardt, Al Stefanelli and others, including the scoop on the latest 'end times prophet'

January 11, 2012 By admin 4 Comments

A slate of outstanding guests will be joining us for the first God Discussion Show of the new year.
First, we will be talking with Roy Speckhardt, Executive Director of the American Humanists Association.  Roy actively promotes the humanist perspective on progressive political issues. He’s appeared on CNN Headline News, Fox News, numerous national radio shows, and has spoken to dozens of local humanist groups across the country. He also serves as a board member of the Humanist Institute and the United Coalition of Reason and as an advisory board member of the Secular Student Alliance. He holds an M.B.A. from George Mason University and a B.A. in sociology from Mary Washington College. He lives in Washington DC.
Al Stefanelli is well-known for his work with United Atheist Front, Inc., which he founded in 2005 and ran until August 2011, at which point he shifted gears to serve as the Georgia State Director of American Atheists.  Al is the author of A Voice of Reason in an Unreasonable World and is a widely read journalist with the National Atheism Examiner, Freethought Blogs and Associated Content.  He has been a writer and journalist since 1993, starting out as a weekly columnist for a McClathy Newspaper, where he wrote a column called Think About It for ten years.  His work won a North Carolina Journalism award.  Al also produced and hosted the weekly syndicated broadcast Millennium for three years.  He is also a former Baptist Minister, Preacher and Evangelist.  Links to his various projects and online columns can be found at his official website, AlStefanelli.com.

QUICK NOTES:
Show Time:  Thursday night, January 12, 2012, 6  Pacific / 7 Mountain / 8 Central / 9 Eastern
Call-In Number:  914-338-0452
To hear the show live and participate in the web-based chat room:  http://www.blogtalkradio.com/god-discussion/2012/01/13/roy-speckhardt-american-humanist-association
More info about time zones, the chat room, archive downloads and hosts:  The God Discussion Show

Extras … Thomas Paine is perhaps the most influential of America's founding fathers, yet he is ignored or forgotten. The World Union of Deists has launched a campaign to convince the History Channel to produce and air a documentary about Paine. Jayson of the World Union of Deiests tells us more (you can sign the petition here). And *tentatively* we'll learn more about the Ronald Weinland, the doomsday preacher who says that Jesus Christ is returning on May 27, 2012.
As an added treat, we're happy to announce that we will have a chance to talk with Mike, who blogs at RonaldWeinland.info.  Mike will give us the scoop about God's latest "prophet" who has proclaimed that Jesus Christ is returning to earth on May 27, 2012 — and that people who "mock" Ronald Weinland's message will die of cancer.  Weinland's so-called prophecies have been around for awhile, and despite the failed May 21, 2011, doomsday prophecy of Harold Camping, has not backed down from his prediction.

Ron Weinland Ready To Make An Ass of Himself On May 27th

It looks like Ronnie Weinland has made a royal ass of himself again!  No shocker there though.  The God Disscusion has an article about Weinerdude's latest prophecy.  It is interesting this is coming right after he faces a court trial from the US Government for tax fraud.  I guess  Weinderude feels he will be found guilty, but no worries, the tribulation will start immediately after his guilty verdict.  The prison bars will be loosed and he will be set free to preach the gospel from the streets in Jerusalem along with his wife.

The latest is that the earth is now in a "biblical half time" that begins today, January 8, 2012.  According to his blog,

January 7, 2012, is another important occurrence for the timing of God’s work and end-time events. This date is an important crossroad in time as it ends a prophetically historic portion of time in Daniel that consists of a prophetic measure of “time” and “times” that began after Trumpets of 2009. January 8 of this year begins the final “half-a-time” of this full prophetic period known as “time, times, and half-a-time.” That day is the start of the final period of 140 days (half-a-time) that leads up to the very coming of the Messiah spoken of in those same prophecies of Daniel.

 Former Worldwide Church of God preacher says Jesus Christ is returning on May 27, 2012 and that today marks the end of time and beginning of "half time"

I can just hear it now come May 28th.  "God has delayed Jesus coming because of the lack of faith of the brethren. The church is not ready. It is YOUR fault that Jesus could not return. Or, he will say that Jesus came back "spiritual" at this point and that the tribulation has begun "spiritually."

Packo-Flurro-Weino-Centricism

Flurry, Pack, Weinland - Evil Incarnate

Packo-Flurro-Weino-Centricism

 

 

As a child, I sat through many a Presbyterian church service.  We went twice every Sunday, morning and evening which also included Sunday School after morning church and our youth group until about 8:30 PM after evening service.  I was on churched kid!

 

 

NEVER in all those sermons did I hear our minister utter anything that he remotely thought was speaking of him, our church or his place in it all from the Bible.  He never said such a stupid thing as , "And yes brethren, I am an Apostle."  He never claimed to be a prophet , priest or king of any kind.  He never would have spoke of himself as "that Prophet" or any other for that matter.  He never bragged about how big our church was because it wasn't.  He never pushed to build a college in the parking lot.  I never heard him utter the words, "Send it in" and by that he meant the proceeds from the sale of our home and my dad's Kodak retirement.  He never used the words "incredible", "awesome", "Overarching" or "amazing" all that much.  Actually I never recall hearing those words.  He never ever read anything from the Book of Revelation that I recall which is one reason I got snookered by WCG. I wanted to know what was in it and where it came from.  Presbyterians must have learned long ago that "John" had good drugs and that book should be avoided if you wish to stay sane and have a normal life.

 

 

And this minister never ever ever saw himself in the Book of Revelation as one of the Two Witnesses.  We would have starred in disbelief and then laughed our asses off. He would have been out the door by next Sunday with a parade of new guys hoping to get selected by the board as permanent minister in about a year from then.  I'm pretty sure we would not have even known what a Two Witness was but would have seen some serious mental problems with the man.  

 

 

Not so in the COG splits, splinters and slivers huh?  

 

 

I did not personally take HWA all that seriously when he or others beat around the bush about his being this or that.  Whether Apostle or Elijah to come, I have to say (along with British Israelism) it was all a rather ho hum topic to me.  You all know how I felt about Gerald Waterhouse's perspectives.  (My kids called him Mr. Watermelon) Pure bunk which I often prayed would not prove to be the least bit true as I could see it tanking the church when it came not to pass. I certainly knew I was not going to tell the church anyone had decided it was time to "flee", whatever that meant.  Sometimes such talk and tales made my stomach hurt. 

 

 

 I never bought into GTA being the Joshua with "filthy rags " either.  Most of us, minister and member had filthy rags to worry about so how could we know if we weren't the Joshua to come?  :)

 

 

This ego centric habit that the highly untrained leaders of the Revelation based COG's is disturbing to say the least.  Who sits week after week listening to these guys repeat the same stuff about me, my and I over an over?  Where is their critical thinking?  Are they afraid to listen to that "still small voice" that I know speaks to them during most sermons that notes, "this is stupid,"  "he is nuts,"  "how does he know that,"  or "if I and my family keep following this guy, I can see a train wreck in our future."  Why do they suppress it?  Habit I guess.  I thank the gods that I did not grow up in my youth with this kind of mentality in my minister.  

 

 

One can't help the church or life one is born into, but one sure as hell can look at it and sense something is very wrong and move on.  

 

 

So, to be blunt.  Gerald Flurry is NOT "That Prophet."  He simply is not.  He's a God-Haunted man as are the others in competition with each other for the title of the most or best or truest.  Neither Ron Weinland nor his silent wife in the matter are the Two Witnesses of Revelation, and David C Pack is NOT a real Apostle who has restored anything except the misunderstandings of others he worships. 

 

 

These types don't have the theological training and education to utter such things and if they did, they would not utter them.  While David C may mock Socrates, Plato, Aristotle and Einstein (because he had "wild hair" of all things), he'd have done well to actually read them.  

 

 

Ron Weinland makes fun of science because he doesn't understand science or it goes against his form of literalism.  Nonetheless and unlike himself, when science makes a mistake they admit it, add the facts found out to the existing body of information on the topic and keep looking.  Ron simply makes a new end game with no admission of being wrong in any way at all.  It's either "God is giving us more time," or "God is not done revealing truth to us...incredible, amazing brethren."

 

 

So, what's the point?  For those who attend those groups with those kinds of leaders who have those kinds of visions dancing in their heads about themselves and how they fit into the Bible, please at least think and listen when your stomach tells you what you mind is dismissing.  When you have a choice between how your stomach feels when this or that is said and what your brain and head is telling you, your stomach is always telling the truth.  The mind is fooling you into staying a bit longer than will prove to be to your benefit. 

 

 

"Prove all things..."  Remember?  "Trust me Brethren" is a formula for personal disaster and disillusionment. 

 

 

What word don't you understand?

 

 

The COGs are excellent Bible readers .  The vast majority of the followers are sincere people or they would not put up with that niggly feeling in their stomachs they get when their leadership makes some other lame ass announcement about how it all is and where he fits into their lives.  They know what is in the Book but that's can be not much different than knowing what is in the story of Hansel and Grettal or The Emperor's New Clothes if you get my drift. 

Dennis C. Diehl
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Verdict: "GUILTY OF BEING A FALSE PROPHET AND SPEAKING PRESUMPTUOUSLY."

Prophet Thiel has made up a list of "charges" against Ron Weinland that "prove" he is a false prophet:

Some of these "charges" can be taken and inserted with Rod Meredith's name and thus would equally apply to him!  Shall we make our own list of failed false prophecies of Rod Meredith?

Charge 1: He falsely claimed that he was given power on April 17, 2008 as that was the start of the Great Tribulation, according to him, and that the real others could not see this is that the Great Tribulation at that time was supposed spiritual.  His own testimony convicted him as he later claimed that the Great Tribulation began on December 14, 2008.  Verdict: GUILTY OF BEING A FALSE WITNESS AND SPEAKING PRESUMPTUOUSLY.

Charge 2: He claimed that his wife Laura was the second of God’s two witnesses effective on April 17, 2008, the supposed start of the 3 1/2 years of the two witnesses gaining power (cf. Revelation 11).  Neither Ronald Weinland nor his wife Laura have displayed any of the miraculous powers of God’s two witnesses.  Verdict: GUILTY OF BEING A FALSE WITNESS AND SPEAKING PRESUMPTUOUSLY.

Charge 3: He wrote in his 2008 God’s Final Witness book that various leaders in the Living Church of God, United Church of God, and Philadelphia Church of God would die towards the beginning of his Great Tribulation.  None have, and since according to his own statements, the Great Tribulation is mostly over.  Verdict: GUILTY OF BEING A FALSE PROPHET AND CLAIMING TO BE ONE OF THE TWO WITNESSES AND SPEAKING PRESUMPTUOUSLY.

Charge 4: He falsely claimed that a little after April 2008, the US dollar would be worthless.  The US dollar is still valuable.  And apparently according to the IRS, so valuable to Ronald Weinland that he allegedly “did willfully attempt to evade and defeat the payment of a large part of the income tax due and owing by him to the United States of America for the calendar year 2008″ on “or about October 15, 2009″ according to federal documents.  Verdict: GUILTY OF BEING A FALSE PROPHET AND SPEAKING PRESUMPTUOUSLY.

Charge 5: Ronald Weinland claimed that if the USA was not nuked by June 2008, he would resign, admit he was false, and never preach again.  The USA was not nuked, he did not resign, he continues to preach, and has not publicly admitted that he was false.  Verdict: GUILTY OF BEING A FALSE WITNESS AND SPEAKING PRESUMPTUOUSLY.

Charge 6: He falsely claimed that the USA would not get a new president to take office in January 2009.  Yet, on January 20, 2009, Barack Obama became USA’s 44th president.  Verdict: GUILTY OF BEING A FALSE PROPHET AND SPEAKING PRESUMPTUOUSLY.

Charge 7: He claims to be part of the Church of God, yet instead has repeatedly denied the deity of Jesus.  The Bible teaches that Jesus is God.  Verdict: GUILTY OF HERESY AND APOSTASY.

Charge 8: On August 8, 2009 he falsely declared that 2008 was God’s final witness.  That is false.  By definition the two witnesses are supposed to give a witness.  His own words again convict him.  Furthermore, he and his wife Laura have not been effective witnesses.  Verdict: GUILTY OF BEING A FALSE WITNESS AND SPEAKING PRESUMPTUOUSLY.

Charge 9:  On December 19, 2009 he falsely declared himself to be the final Elijah.  Yet that 1) contracts his own writing {Weinland R.  The Prophesied END-TIME. 2004, pp. 73, 75, 85, 89, 106, 108} and 2) that simply is not true.  Verdict: GUILTY OF BEING A FALSE WITNESS AND SPEAKING PRESUMPTUOUSLY.

Charge 10: Ronald Weinland continues to preach and teach false information about the Great Tribulation and the return of Jesus Christ–which he now claims will be May 27, 2012.  This is not possible as certain biblically-required events have not occurred (see, for example, Matthew 24).   Verdict: GUILTY OF BEING A FALSE WITNESS AND SPEAKING PRESUMPTUOUSLY.

COG False Prophet Indicted On Tax Evasion Charges

It's another fun day in Paradise!  Another corrupt, lying false prophet of Armstrongism has been charged with another crime.

It is none other than our illustrious Wienerdude himself!

Ron Weinland has been indicted with federal charges for tax evasion for failing to report over $356,000 in income.  He is accused of using the money on himself instead of his "church."

Cincinnati.com is reporting:

Ronald Weinland, 62, of Union evaded $357,065 in taxes from 2004 through 2008, according to a federal indictment.


The minister understated his income, used church money for personal expenses and tried to hide the existence of a Swiss bank account., said a spokesman for Kerry B. Harvey, the U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Kentucky. Weinland also allegedly failed to report any interest made on that Swiss account as income.

Weinerdude Weinalnd's splinter cult is a harlot daughter of The Living Church of God.  Weinerdude also thinks he is a prophet capable of predicting the end times (just like Harold Camping).  So far every word that has come out of his mouth has been a lie.

Long ago he declared himself one of the two witnesses. But because he as so few followers he needed another sidekick to be the other 'witness", so he appointed his wife.  So together he and the Mrs. make up the Two Witnesses who will be sent out as a warning to the world and then murdered in the streets of Jerusalem only to be resurrected in 3 1/2 days.

Sadly this FOOL is only one in a long line of liars and frauds that make up the so called "ministry" of Armstrongism.  The corrupt nature of Weinland is also carried over into the corrupt leaders of the various harlot daughters of the Worldwide Church of God.  It is only a matter of time fore these other fools make the headlines.

More on the story here:  Boone Co. Minister Indicted On Tax Charges

Local Minister Idicated On Tax Evasion

Will False Prophet Rod Meredith Retire Like Failed Prophet Harold Camping?

Dr. Bob is ripping Harold Camping a new one today for all of his recent failed prophecies.  He is also nailing Ron Weinlend for his stupid failed prophecies.  But the question still needs to be asked.  What about Rod Meredith's hundreds of failed prophecies?  What about Gerald Waterhouse's failed prophecies?  What about Richard Ame's failed prophecies?  What about Herbert Armstrong's failed prophecies?  Why is Prophet Thiel silent on all of them?  Rod Meredith is just a big a liar as Ron Weinland and Harold Camping is. So what is the difference?

According to certain, but not completely confirmed, news reports, false prophet Harold Camping has retired:

Harold Camping worst prophet ever: Camping retires, and Family Radio removes doomsday warnings from its website–finally…

October 21st has come and gone with no Rapture, which makes it a total Doomsday Fail.   Family Radio perhaps is getting the idea–they’ve removed doomsday warnings from their website after having them up for the last five months–perhaps for good.  http://www.goddiscussion.com/83473/harold-camping-worst-prophet-ever-camping-retires-and-family-radio-removes-doomsday-warnings-from-its-website-finally/

 Thiel goes on to write:

While I am not sure that Harold Camping is any worse than former UCG minister and self-appointed prophet/apostle/one-of-the-two-witnesses Ronald Weinland of CGPFK, the reality is that less people have thus far paid less attention to Ronald Weinland, even though he has made several false prophecies and has his last date for Jesus to return on May 27, 2012.  Yet it is certain that Jesus will not return for many years.

LCG has been predicting that the end will come in 3-5 years for ages now.  It was even throwing around 2014.  Have they now stopped doing this?  I doubt it.  They may not publicly be saying it, but you had better believe the die-hards still do!

Thiel talks about Ron Weinland (Weinerdude) who has declared that on May 27, 2012 is the date Jesus is returning.

Now, I am sure that Ronald Weinland will conclude that I am one who does not understand.  But Jesus is NOT going to return on May 27, 2012. And instead of having the physically required signs of the Great Tribulation or even those that the Bible requires from the two witnesses, he seems to claim that his odd interpretation of certain prophetic matters is “a very powerful, awesome sign“.  I say this is nonsense.

Ronald Weinland should announce his retirement from the ministry no late than May 28, 2012 if he has any semblance to decency as he will again be proven wrong, just like Harold Camping (Of course, if he takes up an offering on May 27, 2012, this should give his followers pause as according to his predictions he would have no ability to spend any of it–unless his prediction is wrong, which it is).

So the question needs to be asked again, what about Rod Meredith? Shouldn't his followers have paused after all these years to recognize that Rod's predictions have all failed too?

I do not consider that Harold Camping is a real Christian and he has repeatedly proven to be a false prophet.  The world did not end in 1994, there was no “rapture of the Church” in May 2011, and no one should base their life on following the dates of Harold Camping or Ronald Weinland.  They, and other false prophets, have caused the way of truth to be blasphemed. Sadly, people have spent a lot of money to promote something that will cause the way of truth will be blasphemed by some.

I do not consider Rod Meredith to be a real Christian either and he certainly is a proven false prophet. The world did not end in 1972/75 when Rod was proclaiming it would.  No LCG member or any COG member should be basing their life on the failed prophecies of any of the cult leaders.  They are all proven liars.  Hundreds of thousands of COG members have spent millions of dollars over  the years funding these liars as they blaspheme God.

Again, I have to ask?  Why is Rod Meredith never held to these same high standards?

Idiots In The Pulpit: Ron Weinland

This video is of Weinerdude lecturing a crowd at an Idea City conference.  Idea City gathers all kinds of speakers from around the world to come and speak.  They can discuss all kinds of things from science to religions,art, architecture, etc.  Most people in attendedance are highly educated.  They have no problem in bringing in "agitators" to mess with peoples minds.

You have to assume that is what they did when they brought in Weinerdude to talk about all of his prophecies.  Did they set him for all the world to see what a nut job he really is.  If they did, then he fell for it hook, line and sinker! Or, perhaps, they had him speak so that people would see how delusional some people who claim to be Christians really are!

Idiots in the Pulpit: Weiner Dude Weinland

Weinerdude Weinland is cursing all who dare to mock his imbecilic rantings.

The only people in the world who think he is a true prophet 

is his equally idiotic wife (Witness #2 of the two of the Witless Witnesses) and his crazy daughter.

Cretins For Christ: Ron Weinland "The Motherload of Wacky"

The Blabbering Fool Says There Are 42 Weeks Left Until Return of Christ

Ron Weinland (aka. Weinerdude), one half of the two witless witnesses says we have 42 weeks until something he calls a 'christ' will return to wreck havoc and judgment upon the world

Are you trembling at the mere thought?  Are you so scared you will return to the "faith once delivered?"

In the last section… “We are now nearing the fulfillment of such events from the Fifth Thunder and the sounding of Trumpets that bring devastation on the scattered nations of Israel. That which was to occur within months after the beginning of the final three and one-half years was postponed for two years due to God’s mercy that He granted (a result of the two-day fast of God’s people) is now nearing that same period for fulfillment once again. It will be a time of humbling and awakening for the greater remnant of God’s people who were scattered after the apostasy, who will be blessed to live on into the beginning of the Millennial reign of Jesus Christ.”

So we are supposed to believe that Jesus Christ delayed his coming for two years because Weinerdude's little cult fasted one weekend?  That worked about as well as Spanky Meredith's church wide fast for church unity!

Then, at the end of that Posting… “In closing, rather than a full three and one-half years of great suffering from massive worldwide devastation, God’s two end-time prophets are witnesses (Mr. & Mrs. Weinerdude) of the mercy and patience of God. This witness is at a time in the history of mankind when God’s judgment is being poured out upon the world during this final end-time. God’s judgment always has been, first and foremost, one of great mercy and patience toward mankind. Since this end-time world has refused to respond to such mercy (as it always has failed to do), now the execution of judgment has begun. A witness of two and one-half years is now passing and one year now remains.”

Time is running out! The countdown to Christ’s return continues to narrow. The truth is—God’s truth is—there are now 42 weeks remaining to the return of Jesus Christ as King of kings and the establishment of God’s government over all nations.

One year till Mr. and Mrs. Weidnerdude become "god's" and rule with a rod of iron over the rebellious world.  That is something to really look forward to......NOT!