Sunday, October 13, 2013

Dennis muses on: The Three Shepherds

 
Are The Three Shepherds
(The Three Stooges:)
Bobby Rivers TV: On THE THREE STOOGES (
Flurry-Pack-Weinland
Sincere?
 
 
Danz Family: Christmas Play Shepherd
 
 
Does Ron Weinland really believe he and his wife are the Two Witnesses of Revelation?  Does Gerald Flurry really believe he is "that Prophet" spoken of by Malachi?  Does Dave Pack really believe the Minor Prophet Haggai is really speaking and foretelling Dave's coming to reunite those who God obviously disfellowshipped along the way so he could restore them?  For that matter, did HWA really believe he was spoken of in the Bible as an Elijah or Zerubbabel?
 
 
I have no idea...
 
It's Sunday let's chill – End your weekend with a smile
 
 
I do know, however, that title taking and searching the scriptures, by those who place themselves above everyone else in understanding, is a really bad habit and one of the more laughable practices in these particular cultic guru following sink holes.
 
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We have the spectacle of minor players like a Bob Thiel who obsesses on getting a "doubt portion of God's Spirit" when he asked to merely be anointed in the tradition of James 5:14 and ends up yet another Prophet, in his mind.  With all due respect to Dr. Thiel, he is not a teacher, not a speaker and certainly not inspiring.  He's a Bible reader with a self given title and it's silly.  While harmless for the most part and unlike The Three Shepherds, Bob gives yet more reasons to scoff at religion.
 
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Then we have the ever entertaining James Malm and E.W.King who I'd not know if I smashed into them.  Are they sincere?  Do they really believe their own shtick?   I have no idea.  I do know that letting them filter and guide my life through their views, opinions and minds would be a sign of insanity.  I'd say "Just who do you think you are?"  but I'd get too long a foolish and stupid answer.  These are two truly Bronze Age theorists who need someone to send them a New Testament for Christmas or Passover.
 
Sad Monkey Sitting In Prison Stock Photo - Image: 17547020
 
Does Ron Weinland really believe, as he sits in prison, he is Mr. Revelation 11?  Really?   Jesus said something about traveling and preaching with simple clothing and needs.  Ron traveled with diamonds and gold all paid for by the faithful tithes of the brain dead in my view.  Ron was and is not an inspiring teacher.  His sermons were always the same and very predictable in content.  He always gave me the impression he was winging it with little or no aforethought or preparation.  I guess Apostles and Witnesses can do that.
 
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Is Dave Pack sincere?  Does he really believe he is the real Joshua the High Priest?  In his latest prophetic debacle he went from his truth on Haggai as absolute truth about him and his church to a great parallel. Absolute truth and something being literally true is not the same as a great parallel.  It's what you have to do when you screw up.  The last six months of Dave's screeds and amazing truths are simply rubbish.  He is not spoken of anywhere but in his head.   He has spent the last month as chief chef at the Waffle House as he tries to edit , explain, redact and seem humbly wrong, which is ok because he knows it was a simple, complex, easy to understand coded message to him and his brain dead seat gyrators.  Dave has made it clear that there are no apologies needed or coming.   A few years ago he declared the "final push" and sent out his Clarion Call to sell, give and do other very stupid and ill advised things to fund the end time work.  Pulling Big Triggers has translated into nice lawns, miles of mahogany trim and Steuben Crystal.   Where have I heard this story before?  I'm thinking it will end the same way.
 
 
So we have The Three Shepherds in the Churches of God who have and we hope continue to supply endless insanity and excellent reasons for the brethren to go get a life and vote with their feet.  For those by now who still can be both stuck and gyrate in their seats at the same time, I offer no hope and they can prove a previous point I made about there being a butt for every seat.
 
That Prophet Gerald Flurry
 
Mr. One of Two Witnesses Ron Weinland
(Can't wait for Dave Pack to search for his)
 
and
 
Watcher, Apostle and Joshua the High Priest David C Pack
(Yellow because he won't debate me)
 
 
Do they really believe their own stories?  What kind of blindness is it that infects their followers?
Why do we care?  Anyone with even half a brain can see the foolishness of paying heed to these men theologically.  They simply do not know what they are talking about.  I have NO PROBLEM sitting down with Dave Pack and publicly discussing theology with him.  However, Dave has proved, at least to me, that his power lies in staying behind closed doors in his ivory tower amongst his own.  He weak theologically but strong in hubris and Bible reading.  Out in the sunshine in the clear light of public scrutiny, he would not stand a chance. None of The Three Shepherds in the Fractured Church of God would survive three minutes with a first year theology student.
 
 
I always heard that the Beatle's "Fool on the Hill" was about the Armstrongs.  I don't know that either but it sure fit. 
 
Are The Three Shepherds just old lyrics?
 
I guess if the song fits...sing it!
 
"The Fool On The Hill"
Day after day, alone on the hill
The man with the foolish grin is keeping perfectly still
But nobody wants to know him
They can see that he's just a fool
As he never gives an answer
But the fool on the hill
Sees the sun going down
And the eyes in his head
See the world spinning around

Well on the way, head in a cloud
The man of a thousand voices talking percetly loud
But nobody ever hears him
Or the sound he appears to make
And he never seems to notice
But the fool on the hill
Sees the sun going down
And the eyes in his head
See the world spinning around

And nobody seems to like him
They can tell what he wants to do
And he never shows his feelings
But the fool on the hill
Sees the sun going down
And the eyes in his head
See the world spinning around

He never listen to them
He knows that they're the fools
They don't like him
The fool on the hill
Sees the sun going down
And the eyes in his head
See the world spinning around


 Spinning Heads : NO QUARTER USA NET
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Friday, October 11, 2013

David C Pack Says He Is Not Stupid Enough To Set Another Date - Kind Of.....




No New Date

None of this new understanding speaks to when the prophecy will be fulfilled. I will certainly never repeat such a mistake. Those who believe the prophecy and are waiting on God will understand how important these elements are once it is fulfilled. Remember, you can wait in God’s Church for this fulfillment—or outside. It has been inspiring to see how many have come with us beginning in the summer and continuing to present. They know the prophecy is correct and the other two prophecies that quickly FOLLOW are drawing closer daily. 
 Notice how Dave attempts to prove his church is growing by stating how much attendance was at his feast sites.  While they might have church hopped to one of Dave's sites, they did not join up.  If they all had,  Dave would be gloating about it.
The number of new people keeping the Feast with us at Headquarters this year was 19%. The number keeping the Feast in Lake Placid, New York, this year was 22%. The number keeping it with us in Destin, Florida, this year was 16%. The number in Branson, Missouri, was 27% and the number in Salt Lake City, Utah, was 29%.



David C Pack: My 'god' Is Going To "...take the splinter assets, crush their income, dismantle their governments, destroy all their production and disperse their people—everyone."





The definition of “desolate” from Merriam Webster’s is: “Devoid of inhabitants and visitors…showing the effects of abandonment and neglect, dilapidated, barren, lifeless, devoid of warmth, comfort or hope.” Webster’s definition of “waste” is: “a barren region, uncultivated, a broad and empty expanse.” The context of the categories described in Haggai 1:11 reveal that God is going to destroy everything in the splinters. Nothing and no one will be left. He is going to take the splinter assets, crush their income, dismantle their governments, destroy all their production and disperse their people—everyone. Think “barren” and “devoid of inhabitants and visitors.” God’s choice of word means the splinter “houses” will be uninhabited. And He will make it clear to the remnant where they should go.

Apparently the splinter group leaders will not learn their lessons and will make one final attempt to thwart Dave in his great reunification. The Bible foretells this, at least in Dave's delusional mind.


Remember that the plagues on Egypt did not cause Pharaoh to let ancient Israel go. God hardened Pharaoh and deliberately made sure that He could bring the plagues in sequence to work out His divine purpose. We may expect some kind of non-literal parallel to occur today. And no one knows exactly how long such “plagues” will last, but certain clues indicate they will not be long, perhaps a few months as they did when Israel left Egypt.

David C Pack: Here Are The Three Phases of Destruction That Will Happen To ALL of the Splinter Groups




Stage 1:


Previous announcements have outlined the destruction that God will bring on the splinter “houses.” We originally thought He would desolate the “houses” in two phases. It is now clear from Haggai—and this will be impossible to misunderstand when you see it—that there are three phases of destruction coming that are so complete they leave nothing remaining.

Referenced earlier, the first phase of punishment has been occurring for the last 21 years and is described in Haggai 1:6: “You have sown much, and bring in little; you eat, but you have not enough; you drink, but you are not filled with drink; you clothe you, but there is none warm; and he that earns wages earns wages to put it into a bag with holes.”

Haggai 2:16 is God recounting the same thing to the remnant—that they never got the expected return on investment they hoped for over more than two decades: “Since those days were, when one came to an heap of twenty measures, there were but ten: when one came to the pressfat for to draw out fifty vessels out of the press, there were but twenty.” See the parallel!

Apparently Dave's stupid angry god has been punishing the true church for the last 1,900 years, because they have NEVER gotten it right!
Haggai 1:6 describes God’s long ongoing punishment on His people due to their actions. When brethren and ministers began forming their own houses, God cut them off from both His Holy Spirit and His blessings. Their “works” never produced the expected return on investment because they were cut off from these things. Verse 10 adds “Therefore the heaven over you is stayed from dew [blessings], and the earth is stayed from her fruit [of the Holy Spirit].”
 Dave is still pissed that the ministers in all the various COG's refuse to follow him.

This next phase is God intensifying His punishment—turning up the heat—in the face of the group’s continuing resistance to returning to His Church. What He brings to bear is SERIOUS. (We will see in a moment how serious.) Despite God bringing awful punishment on their houses, these ministers still did not repent and “turn to” God. Haggai 2:17 forms an instructive look-back to ministers who grew weak and confused for decades. God requires them to come to grips with how their congregations and organizations fell into the horrible mess that resulted. His warning is so that history will not repeat itself. Much is at stake for these ministers in what is everyone’s last chance.

This is everyone's LAST chance?  Really?  How incredibly stupid that is. Dave's god is too impotent to do such a thing.

Mildew and storms will soon start devastating the various COG's:

God says in effect that He will bring to nothing the occupation, transactions, products and business of these “houses.” This describes the second phase of punishment, when He begins breaking things up in the splinters with what could be thought of as “plagues.” (Think of the period of parallel with actions God had to use to bring Israel out of ancient Egypt.) Little things start going wrong!
—contracts, actions, transactions, business, decisions, etc.—as God smites the remnant’s “labors” with what He calls blasting, mildew (fear) and hail. At some point in the future, thousands of brethren will begin wondering, “What is going on? What is wrong?”

Dave thinks his god is essentially going to scare the shit out of COG members:

God will send FEAR into these groups in an attempt to WAKE THEM UP. The kinds of things God will do will leave people pale with fear. GET THIS because conditions will eventually grow worse, then much worse. Think of it through the following analogy. God’s Church will be on an elevator going up, while the splinters are passing us on one going down.

Then Dave's god will have one final fit of fury directed at the splinters:

The word for “labor” here is different from the word for “labors” in Haggai 2:17. God is very careful with the words He uses. He tells us “every” one is “pure” (Prov. 30:5) and “purified seven times” (Psa. 12:6). “Labor” is a stronger word in Haggai 1:11, and means “toil, your work, produce, property, your business, labor.” In other words, God desolates EVERYTHING—not just actions, transactions or little deeds. Haggai 1:11 is God’s third wave of punishment on the splinters. This is when God destroys EVERY element of the splinters. No wonder the people in verse 12 fear before God.