Monday, November 15, 2021

"Pleased to announce"? Why?



The Continuing Church of God is pleased to announce this sermonette from its ContinuingCOG channel:

                                                         Preparation to Support the Work

"Louis Rubin discusses some aspects of preparation including one related to Herbert W. Armstrong’s list of success. He jokingly asserts that Dr. Thiel said “shape up or ship out” and that he must read the “Gospel of the Kingdom of God” booklet to become part of CCOG. He goes into reasons about preparing for the work to “instruct many” that Daniel 11:32 points to."
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(Note:  I could be mistaken but it sounds like the above confusing and poorly written description of the sermonette,  is also written to clean up a few comments that Bob may not have appreciated, gave a negative impression of him and thus wanted it understood the speaker was "just joking'.  The "Gospel of Bob" is going to take a very long time, going him therefore into all the world,  if this is the quality of presentation and truth he settles for. )



 

Saturday, November 13, 2021

Craig Winters Update: Struggling To Survive After COVID And Leg Amputation


 

This story just gets stranger by the day. Winters, who was considered by a large number of PCG members and ex-members to be an abuse minister in the PCG because he held firm to the abusive and revolting rules and regulations that Gerald Flurry set forth. In spite of that, he ends up being disfellowshipped and marked and is now suffering the side effects of COVID requiring his leg to be amputated. Now he is begging people for help. Like many other men in Armstrongism that got screwed by the cult by it not paying social security on the ministers or contributing to retirement. Unless of course, you are the super-elite and then you are set for life. Flurry pretends he is like HWA and the Worldwide Church of God pre1986, well he got one thing right... screwing the ministry over is what the church was really good at. Though in Winters case, karma is a bitch.

From a reader here:

Craig acquired COVID and had one of his legs amputated. His wife now works for Wal-Mart. He set up a gofundme to help pay for the hospital costs he has incurred. The man in the picture is definitely Craig.  

Here is the link to the gofundme and I've copied the text of it below: 

 
Hi, my name is Craig. I got Covid-19, hospitalized 23 days, full covid pnemonia, then complications set in. My lungs could not heal unless they amputated my right leg due to an infection that set in from a blocked artery. Either take my leg, or die. I was going to have to go on the ventilator for the surgery, slim chance for survival. Last minute they were able to do a spinal tap, I was now breathing room air. The many prayers that went our were answered. I'm alive. What I need help with. It turns out I am not eligible for Disability or Social security. I worked for a Non-profit organization the last 19 years and did not contribute to SS. My wife works full time at WalMart. I have a small Ebay business, 5 acres, buy and sell a few cattle. Not much. I can't come home without a ramp to get into our home. I have surmounting hospital bills. It is going to take me 6 months to a year to recover from the damage done to my lungs from the covid. I plan to work hard on becoming independent and mobile but it will take time and a lot of doctor bills. Some guys form my wife's work have volunteered to build the ramp but the wood alone was just over $1000.00. My out of pocket pay from my wife's insurance plan is $11,000.00. It would be greatly appreciated if you could help in any small way! Craig

Keep in mind this is the same Craig Winters whose son needlessly died from Addison's disease because he was told god would heal him not medications.

PCG: Tyrant Craig Winters And His Wife Disfellowshipped And Marked


 


From a reader here:

According to Mike's Testmony page @ ESN, both Craig Winters and his wife Colleen have been disfellowshipped as of Oct.2021 After being under his thumb for a few years (20 yrs ago), I'm not surprised. He was a 'piece of work' even back then! When I left the PCG, He disfellowshipped my whole family by phone from a campout in Cali. He disfellowshipped my middle son (who was unbaptized) for writing an email to a girl in South Africa who was 'in rebellion,' and then he disfellowshipped my 22 yr old handicapped son (also unbaptized), because "God can't use a handicapped person," and also said that my youngest son was too young to attend on his own (as if!) - - - he then told my wife that she had to divorce me since I had left the Flurry cult. When she refused to divorce, he disfellowshipped her as well. and then he finished his phone call with "there, that's the last of you!" What unmitigated gall that idiot had ....


 

Friday, November 12, 2021

LCG: "...we must be patient and respectful with each other and endeavor “to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace” so we can do the Work"

It's Friday around noontime and things are kicking into gear for the weekly Friday Night SmackDown of LCG members who just can NEVER seem to do anything right.

Week after week it is one thing after another concerning things LCG members are doing wrong. This week, for some reason, LCG members are not being "respectful and patient" with one another, or more precisely, with the leadership. Is the patience that members are supposed to have running thin with leadership and how they treat members? If members are fed up with leadership how can the WORK get done?

In a previous comment in this newsletter Gerald Weston made the following comment:

Last Sabbath Carol and I were in Tampa, Florida, for a Tomorrow’s World Presentation where we had 54 (give or take one or two) guests. Mr. James Sweat will be giving the first of several follow-up presentations this Sabbath. Please remember to pray for these efforts, as we can preach the word but only the Father draws one to Christ.

Then at the end of the same paragraph, Weston writes:

The new television season began last week. This week’s telecast is “The Greatest Friend of All” by Mr. Richard Ames, advertising the booklet What Is a True Christian? Let us all pray that God will call many to understanding and action as a result of this encouraging telecast.—Gerald Weston

If God is the one who draws people to Christ in the LCG, and people are not showing up, then maybe, just maybe, LCG needs to examine why Christ is never in the picture so that people can be drawn to him? When it's the law all the time, ALL THE TIME, when is there ever any time for Christ to pop up?




If God is the one who sends people to the church, then what difference does it make if members are not all "perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment"? God would be sending people by the droves to his true church because he sees a bigger picture. But, the simple fact remains that COG leaders refuse to believe and that is that PEOPLE make the decision to attend a church and eventually join. This myth in Armstrongism that only God sends someone to the church is without basis. Humans are given a brain to make logical decisions, and that involves deciding which church they belong to. The concept of God calling people to the church is the other side of the sword that the church welds when they want to kick people out, they can then conveniently say the member/s were NOT called by God. Logic in the COG never computes when you really dig deep.

The Blessings of Unity: We live in an increasingly divided world, yet David wrote, “How good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity” (Psalm 133:1). Jesus Christ prayed for His disciples, “that they may be one just as We are one” (John 17:21–22). The Scriptures reveal that while the disciples had different perspectives (Acts 15; Galatians 2), they learned to work together to achieve their mission (2 Peter 3:14–16). This is why we must be patient and respectful with each other and endeavor “to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace” so we can do the Work (Ephesians 4:1–3). As we are led by the same Spirit, we will see divisions diminish and we will be more “perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment” (1 Corinthians 1:10). The peace, harmony, and unity that is possible among Spirit-led Christians can be a blessing and an inspiring light in a troubled world. 
 
Have a profitable Sabbath, 
Douglas S. Winnail

The good news for LCG and many other COG members is that many of them are blessings and inspiring to those around them, with or without LCG or some COG group backing them up. They take care of neighbors and help in their communities, unlike the leadership of the COG's. Real Christians are always a light, you don't need Weston, Winnail, Thiel, or other COG leaders telling you how to do things right.

Thursday, November 11, 2021

Well there ya go! Dave Pack finally fits the final piece of the puzzle in place.

 From Blather #331

Dave needs Nebuchadnezzar to be resurrected FIRST to tie it all together. Not to worry brethren. Everything is correct and right on schedule

Don't even try to follow the reasoning behind the entire sermon. The fact is that Dave simply is incapable of saying he is badly mistaken and has wasted the time of the brethren pretending he isn't and hasn't. 


Dave 'splains...



"It's easy...... But ONLY if you can get yourself to ACCEPT that Nebuchadnezzar is ahead of everybody else - If you cannot DO that, you'll be tangled, and the Bible will simply NOT unlock.


I walked with different groups of men...........You cannot make the Bible sing with PERFECT HARMONY UNLESS you find a way to get Nebuchadnezzar back in the 1st Kingdom - ahead of the vast billions"....


"You have to REJECT the Bible - you have to REJECT God's word - to believe Nebuchadnezzar is not here before the Day of the Lord and the Chaldeans with him"...

Weaver of Tall Tales Apostle David C Pack.